Quote tags

[Dr Unne]

I like the phpBB-style quote-in-a-box. Anyone else like it? I like it better than those ugly hr tags the normal quote uses. Example:

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

And nested, it looks something like

Text.

Some text.

More text.

Still more text.

So much text.

I'd actually like to replace the current default sucky


This is sucky

sorts of quotes with those neat boxed quotes. Opinions.

[Burtsplurt]

Yes, they're a lot neater, and they're what I'm used to on fora.

Thumbs up.

[m4tt]

I like those too. The lines are ugly. Boxes are pretty.

[Flying Mullet]

Yes, I like the nested boxes if it will keep track of previous quotes. Right now if I quote someone that's quoted someone else, I only get the second quote, and not the original quote as well. But then againI don't know if that's something that the boxed quoting can fix or even if it's operator failure.

[eestlinc]

but change is bad, right??!??

yes, please change it

[crono_logical]

I don't particularly mind which one you use :p

[Loony BoB]

I'm fine with either, as I'm used to both of them at different boards.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Give me boxes.

[blue_midget192]

so how do u do the boxes? (sorry if thats a dense question)

[Leeza]

If we go to boxes I just might quit coming here. I do not like them one bit...no, I don't.

But do whatever you wish just the same. :)

[Dr Unne]

Right now you can use the [qq=Chester]blah[/qq] tag to do the new quote boxes. If people really hate the quote boxes then I can leave it as an optional tag and leave the default as the sucky two-hr-tag quotes. I don't want to scare Leeza away.

[blue_midget192]

wow jsut [qq] insted of [qoute] :) sounds simple enough *gets it rong*

[crono_logical]

<fieldset class="fieldset"><legend>You see these things?</legend>Which appear in all options you can set, such as when posting, in your user profile, etc. etc, as well as other places such as grouping attachments in posts.
</fieldset>

<fieldset class="fieldset" style="border-width: 2px 2px 2px 2px"><legend>Well,</legend>They originally looked like this in vB3, boxing every single set of options, one box per where you now see just the one line with the text centred through it as above :p</fieldset>

Which is messy, once you have like 10 boxes stacked on top of each other, like you get in your user CP pages :p I think it's fine for the odd quote box though, since they don't all get clumped together everywhere :p


<fieldset class="fieldset" style="border-width: 2px 2px 2px 2px"><legend>Originally posted by <span style="font-weight: bold;">crono_logical</span></legend>I wonder if having the text through the box line rather than outside the box completely would look even nicer?</fieldset>

<fieldset class="fieldset" style="border-width: 1px 1px 1px 1px"><legend>Originally posted by <span style="font-weight: bold;">crono_logical</span></legend>One pixel border version. You could probably add the side padding too :p</fieldset>

[Dr Unne]

I was thinking about that too. It does look nicer, now that I see it.

Well, I'm not sure really.

EDIT: Neat, that tag is broken in IE. Top padding doesn't work. Thanks, Microsoft!

EDIT: There, see how you all like that. For reference, this is the first version:

<div class="smallfont" style="margin:0px 25px 5px 25px">Originally posted by <span style="font-weight:bold">Unne</span>:</div><div class="smallfont" style="padding: 10px;margin: 0px 25px 20px 25px;border: 1px white solid;">Blah</div>

[Doomgaze]

Who cares if it doesn't work in IE!? Not I, not I!

[Loony BoB]

The stuff clout posted looks crappy in comparison to everything. Everything else seems fine.

EDIT: And the stuff that clout was talking about looked nothing like what he posted.

[crono_logical]

Give me a screenshot of what you see in IE, I want to compare :p It looks fine in Mozilla to me, but the qq tag Doomgaze is using in his post after mine looks broken to me.

[Loony BoB]

legend1 = vB3 default

[crono_logical]

Interesting, I probably missed out the margin attributes then :p

[Rainecloud]

Wha?

Excellent. I'll be using the new quote boxes from now on. They're much neater.

[Citizen Bleys]

Do it, midget, or Happypeepeehead KILLS.

[Yamaneko]

I like the new quote boxes at FG. :)

[Del Murder]

I think the lines should be dark like the quote lines we have now. Other than that, I still think the boxes are ugly in general, but maybe I just need to get used to it.

[Peegee]

That's great. Does the new system prevent this?

[Yamaneko]

Don't you people have anything better to do?

[Peegee]

I guarantee you can't name even one thing better to do than whatever it is I did.

[Dr Unne]

I just saw someone try to use qq without the username parameter, so I added a plain old &#91;qq] tag now.

Anonymous quote, no username.

[Big D]

I was just about to ask for that.
Neat-o:cool:

[crono_logical]

It doesn't look right now with the text not centred on the line :p

[Peegee]

So nobody's going to care that after about ooh, 20 or so nest quotes the tables break down and quotes vanish into html limbo?

>:o

[crono_logical]

Probably either a vB bug or a browser rendering bug, so there ain't much to do about it, so no :p

[m4tt]

Why would you do 20 or so quote boxes anyway?

[Peegee]

Why wouldn't you want that many quotes? I know I do. It made me complete, whole, and happy.

[Dr Unne]

Someone who has IE can go ahead and try to make the tag look right in IE / look better in Firefox. I'm not booting into Windows again to do it.

[Yamaneko]

But don't you love that Windows welcome screen? :D

[Peegee]

The Windows welcome screen is my only reason to live.

[crono_logical]

I see it like once every few weeks normally :p In fact, I see the logon screen in KDE more often, because of lack of hibernate support >:{

[Shlup]

I like the bexes better myself. Do as you will.

[Peegee]

If you embeded dancing teddy bear gifs on the corners I'll be happy and vote for you in the next ciddehs

<img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8431" />

[Strider]

The boxes are ugly. I hope they aren't permanent.

[Leeza]

The boxes aren't ugly, at least compared to some other MB's, but they just need some getting used to.

[The Man]

<blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by Yamaneko</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;">I like the new quote boxes at FG. :)</div></blockquote>

[Big D]

The boxes are ugly. I hope they aren't permanent.At least you get to choose which you want to use, so that way everyone's happy:thumb:

[Baloki]

If we go to boxes I just might quit coming here. I do not like them one bit...no, I don't.

But do whatever you wish just the same. :)

I'm definatly up for the boxes :D

And why quote that particular PM PG? I'm sure we continued for at least 10 more :D

[Loony BoB]

Uhh... wait. Are we allowing BOTH to be used? That's just messy.

test
test2

EDIT: Can we please just use one? This is just going to get annoying. =/

[Leeza]

BoB, your first test is something that is unique to EoFF, from what I've seen around other boards, and it made EoFF stand out above the rest. The new boxes aren't too bad, but I really don't like to see them when they're nested one inside the other. That is very messy.

[The Man]

<blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by Yamaneko</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;">I like the new quote boxes at FG. :)</div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

[Flying Mullet]

Either one works.






Either one works.



Although the boxes do take up less vertical space.

[Peegee]

The boxes take up too much space horizontally. xD

[Flying Mullet]

The boxes take up no more space horizontally. :p







The boxes take up no more space horizontally. :p

[Leeza]

The boxes look much messier.

[HOOTERS]

Yes use the boxes imho. You can get the pyramid effect happening. :giza:


pyramid!

[The Man]

You can get it better with this kind of quote box:<blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by Yamaneko</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;">I like the new quote boxes at FG. :)</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

[Leeza]

HOOTERS is evil!

[The Man]

<blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by The Man</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;"><blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font-family: Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">Originally posted by Yamaneko</div><div style="border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #00243A; color: #FFFFFF;">And The Man isn't?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

[HOOTERS]

HOOTERS is evil!



pot calling kettle black

[crono_logical]

Silly people :p

To be honest though, I think The Man's style looks the best - it just needs to alternate colours when nested now :D The new EoFF box one looks crap though, because of the way the text is mis-aligned in Mozilla, and I would prefer the line one compared to that one :p

[HOOTERS]

How do you think those pharoahs would have felt if they had two whole sides of their pyramids missing? The afterlife would've sucked because there would be a constant draft. :smash:

[Dr Unne]

What The Man posted is how I had it BEFORE, except with white borders. Darn it. I'm too old for this kind of aggravation.

BlahBlahBlahTest

Now stop abusing the quote boxes. :mad2:

[Dr Unne]

There, I got it to alternate colors too.
Gotta test it out.

[black orb]

>>> I dont like them.. The old thing was better..

[Dr Unne]

>>> I dont like them.. The old thing was better..

The default QUOTE tag does this now too. It looked terrible with the two kinds of quotes mixed together. We'll see. Not hard to put it back the way it was if I have to.

[Del Murder]

I keep my brightness down so it just looks like centered text to me. It's supposed to be a solid box background, right? I can barely see it with the brighness all the way up. I think our alternating background colors are too similar to use this format. It's still better than the box, though.

[crono_logical]

What The Man posted is how I had it BEFORE, except with white borders. Darn it. I'm too old for this kind of aggravation. I guess the line colour makes more of a difference than one would think then :p

Do they alternate colours when nested in each other too? :D





Edit: I guess only one of the tags was changed :p

[Dr Unne]

I think I could get them to alternate when nested, but it would be painful. I did it using CSS, to begin with.

[Peegee]

Forget that. We'd just ruin it by nest qq with q and qqq and q^4 tags.

[Loony BoB]

Are the new quote tags supposed to be black? Because on my screen, they're black. And it's horrible to look at. God-awful, even. And alternating them is also a stupid idea. We need to decide - one or the other. No "oh, a bit of this and a bit of that" - be consistent.

[Peegee]

I'm serious here: they all suck. Bring back the old ones and erase everybody's memory. :aimmad: :aimmad:

[Leeza]

Are the new quote tags supposed to be black? Because on my screen, they're black. And it's horrible to look at. God-awful, even. And alternating them is also a stupid idea. We need to decide - one or the other. No "oh, a bit of this and a bit of that" - be consistent.
I think you need a new screen for your work computer because it seems to have it's own colours apart from all the others. :)

I agree that we should be consistent and I think these look pretty good.

[The Man]

You people need to turn up your contrast.

Having them alternate inside the quote boxes would be nice too, but I guess if it's a huge problem you could just use a different kind of border for the quote boxes, like:

<blockquote><div style="padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font: 11px Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; color: #FFFFFF;">Originally posted by Bashkar</div><div style="border: #004F80 1px solid; background: #002942; padding: 4px; font: 13px Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: #FFFFFF;">It be called "I can't believe it's not gold." It looks like gold, it feels like gold, it tastes like gold, but here's the crazy part - it be not gold! Although it be not guaranteed that ye won't actually end up with gold. So, shall we start the biddin' at...oh let's say...four treasure chests full of sparkly gems?

Hey there, fool. Have yerself some stupid gold fun at Fool's Gold.
You probably oughta read our FAQ for some entertainment that doesn't suck. If you haven't registered, you'll probably want to do that so you can, ya know, post. To start viewing threads, click on a forum, look at some threads, and have some sex fun.</div></blockquote>

Also, the way you guys are defining the quote boxes seems a bit unsound, you could just use:

.alt1 .quote {border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #012033; font: 13px "Verdana", "Arial", sans-serif; color: #FFFFFF;}
.alt2 .quote {border: #000000 1px solid; padding: 4px; background: #002942; font: 13px "Verdana", "Arial", sans-serif; color: #FFFFFF;}
.prequote {padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom: 4px; font: 11px "Tahoma", "Arial", sans-serif; color: #FFFFFF;}

Then just use as the quote tag:

&lt;blockquote>&lt;div class="quote">{param}&lt;/div>&lt;/blockquote>

And for the custom quote tag:

&lt;blockquote>&lt;div class="prequote">Originally posted by {option}&lt;/div>&lt;div class="quote">{param}&lt;/div>&lt;/blockquote>

Putting a "Quote:" message before people's quotes seems to me unnecessary and a waste of space. It's obvious that it's a quote, why else is it blocked out like that? xD

Also, having quotes with 12px text when the rest of the post is 13px text looks bad to me. If you really want it to look different from everything else, use something like 11px Tahoma or something.

[Leeza]

I like the black line around the box better than the blue line. Less messy.

[The Man]

Yeah, I think certain wankers just need to turn up their freaking brightness. ;) The blue line does make it more obvious that it's a quote though, so whatever people think. ;)

Edit: Actually, if they use the blue line they should probably use it everywhere else on the forum as well, just for continuity. I wouldn't mind EoFF with a more obvious border, come to think of it - it seems a bit low of a contrast between one text box and the next.

[Dr Unne]

They're staying like this until I get a good reason to change them. "I don't like your CSS" and "My monitor sucks" aren't good reasons. Feel free to come up with others.

[Leeza]

Yeah, I think certain wankers just need to turn up their freaking brightness. ;) The blue line does make it more obvious that it's a quote though, so whatever people think. ;)

Edit: Actually, if they use the blue line they should probably use it everywhere else on the forum as well, just for continuity. I wouldn't mind EoFF with a more obvious border, come to think of it - it seems a bit low of a contrast between one text box and the next.
That's the thing. The blue line in the quotes looks out of place with the rest of EoFF and if you add it everywhere else to fit in, then all of EoFF changes and that's not a good thing because EoFF looks just fine the way it is now.

[crono_logical]

Are the new quote tags supposed to be black? Because on my screen, they're black. And it's horrible to look at. God-awful, even. And alternating them is also a stupid idea. We need to decide - one or the other. No "oh, a bit of this and a bit of that" - be consistent.Yeah, your screen definitely has problems - they're currently using the same blues as normal posts, so unless one of the normal alternating post colours is black to you as well, you need to be fixing something at your end :p

Also, the CSS does need fixing to something similar to as The Man suggested, since some of the quote boxes are currently the wrong colour on the Add Reply page. Might be a side effect of posts not alternating colours correctly there, but at least fixing the quote box CSS will make them the right colour regardless of where they are then :p

[The Man]

That might actually be a problem with the Add Reply page. xD

Umm. I just happen to hate 12px Verdana and 13px Verdana being mixed together. It looks tacky.

[Dr Unne]

If we're going to fix anything, we should make the posts alternate correctly first. Fixing that might fix the other problem. Maybe I'll look at that later.

Has anyone checked that IE renders all of this stuff correctly? Maybe that's BoB's problem.

[Baloki]

IE 6 renders AoK :D

[Loony BoB]

Now that I'm home, it's definitely my monitor. Or should I say, the fact that I use my screen at too high a resolution for my video card at work to handle. I use something like 1600x1200 on a Compaq Deskpro - if I went one resolution lower and rebooted, it would be fine, but having a huge resolution is a valuable asset when it comes to spreadsheet work. :) But yeah, the 256 colours on my max resolution mean the two blues of EoFF are the same colour, and that's what caused the problem.

Looks fine at home.

[crono_logical]

You shouldn't need to reboot to change resolution :p If the video card can't handle it, it won't let you choose such a mode in the first place - perhaps you're running at a resolution higher than the monitor itself is designed for :p

[Peegee]

If you make quote tags alternate colour, can I ruin it all by using q tags and making the colour bleed into each other, thus causing some sort of third 'superblue' colour?

*keeps harping*

[Loony BoB]

You shouldn't need to reboot to change resolution :p If the video card can't handle it, it won't let you choose such a mode in the first place - perhaps you're running at a resolution higher than the monitor itself is designed for :p
Probably. :p Same difference to me.

[blue_midget192]

some sort of third 'superblue' colour

what a blue that is faster than a speading bullet, leaps tall buildings in a single bound, and wears his underpants on the outside to make him look stupid?

sorry i was cheacking that the boxes worked on my computer and that i had the code right

[Kirobaito]

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?p=786487#post786488

Check out this thread, at Kishi's second post, close to the bottom. This doesn't mean much, but when you quote someone directly with a spoiler tag, that'll happen. There probably may not be a way to fix this, but just pointin' it out.

[Dr Unne]

Blahg. There is a way to fix it. There's a way to make the spoiler truly transparent now too, now that I figured out how to make colors alternate. Darn you for making me do more work. :mad2:

[Del Murder]

Ok I played with the contrast and it looks a lot better. The black on the blue looks ok, but the blue on black looks terrible and I still hate them. Can't we switch to a more contrasting color like gray? The old lines were gray and it worked out.

[crono_logical]

Didn't I make spoilers truly transparent ages ago?

EDIT: never mind, guess you had to add more CSS to accommodate spoilers in quoteboxes too regardless :p

[Leeza]

<i>The old lines were gray and it worked out.</i> - Del Murder

Yeah, I liked the gray, and I like the black, too.

[blue_midget192]

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?p=786487#post786488

Check out this thread, at Kishi's second post, close to the bottom. This doesn't mean much, but when you quote someone directly with a spoiler tag, that'll happen. There probably may not be a way to fix this, but just pointin' it out.

ok sorry waht exactl were u pointing out? :confused:

also have the boxes been made compulusry? or is it just that a lot of people have started using them?

[Dr Unne]

The QUOTE VB tag has been changed to the boxes.

[blue_midget192]

The QUOTE VB tag has been changed to the boxes.
so this will do the box?

edit: nice one :)