FFVIII Quote Quiz

[Rusty]

Yep it's Zell :)

[870621345]

ok my turn....

"I'm here because I chose to be here! Destiny has nothing to do with it!"

[selphie666]

Oh! That's Irvine, during the "I didn't have many choices" speech.

[870621345]

YAH>>>>>>>>> :)

[selphie666]

Yay! Okay...

"Everybody! Love! And Peace!"

[870621345]

hmmm...well I bet I would know that just becasue you seem to be such a big selphie fan...ok it's selphie.....

[selphie666]

Yeppers! Good answer :up:

[870621345]

ok here is one....

"You don't let people in, do you boy? Nah, you've got too much pride."

[selphie666]

The master fisherman at fisherman's horizon? I think that was him...

[TasteyPies]

Its been days....UGH and I have a REALY good quote too! Just go ahead Selphie666 and make a quote so I can answer it and give mine :D

[selphie666]

Well, I know I'm right anyways :D I'll just put an easy one for you TP... at least, it should be easy...

"This is the scene where you swear your undying hatred for me"

[TasteyPies]

Seifer

[selphie666]

Yep Go ahead, TP

Edit: Oops

[TasteyPies]

"Hey, where’s the heroine?"

Please no "Hmmm I don't know at all so im just going to say ..Quistis" answers or "Squall! no? Rinoa! no? Selphie! no? Laguna! no? Edea! no? I know! kiros and ward! no? A galbadain guard? OH MAN! I knew I was right!" I can tell you're just guessing and thats no fun :P

[FightClubFan#47]

selphy's first time on ragonok(sp)

[TasteyPies]

Go ahead siric

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Sorry Siric, but we don't want this thread to die, and you have had plenty of time to reply, so Rubedo will make a quote...

Rubedo: "There's no way I'm sharing it with you!"

[Polyonymous]

hmmm.... im just guessing here but is it zell?

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Nope!

Rubedo: Nice try though!

[Lord Xehanort]

chaos: Are they both that lazy?

Rubedo: Fine, another quote from me.

"Not now, we gotta go save Rinoa!"

Kounetsu: *growling* Watch it, chaos!

Ansem: I never took that turn because I didn't know it was mine to take. It was lehteb's. BTW, this is the same quote right now... so the answer is Seifer.

Kounetsu: "You wanna come to?" (or something like that)

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Is that Selphie?

Rubedo: Or Rinoa?

[Lord Xehanort]

Kounetsu: Both are wrong! *laughs hysterically*

Ansem: *has nothing to say* *sits and stares and sits and stare and sits and stares* *slaps self*

[Armisael]

Laguna?

[Lord Xehanort]

Both: No.

[wakka]

Irvine

[TasteyPies]

King Steve?

[Lord Xehanort]

Ansem: Zell. It's Zell in the G-District Prison. He says it to the first Moomba they meet.

Kounetsu: Glad that's over.

Ansem: Just take a turn, next poster.

[wakka]

"What's the situation"

[Rusty]

Quistis?

[wakka]

No

[Bahumat]

Those guards in the missile base? when they ask you why the light went out (or something like that)?

[wakka]

Damm i don't know if those have been said but no thats not the one i seen.

[Bahumat]

some of the people when Galbadia Garden attacks Balamb Garden??? maybe a new quote is in order....your call.

[Rinoa_Galatea]

Is it Irvine? :confused:

[wakka]

No, a couple more guesses then i'll say the answer.

"some of the people when Galbadia Garden attacks Balamb Garden???"

It is in that part.

[Rusty]

Is it Xu?

[wakka]

No, one more guess.

[Necronopticous]

Isn't that Squall?

[CloudSquallandZidane]

Cid?

If im right then the next person just go i dont check this forum often enough.

[wakka]

No, it was Dr. Kadowaki.

Next poster can post a new quote.

[Bahumat]

"It used to be a place where they did all this research"
I think that's right, who and where please.

[Xzirox]

Zell at the Deep Sea Research Center?

[wakka]

I think he is right.

[Rinoa_Galatea]

I think it was Squall & not Zell at the deep sea Research Center

[TasteyPies]

King Steve!

[Bahumat]

Correct, Xzirox.

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: We've given him enough time. I'll make another quote.

Rubedo: "Back from the 'dream world' yet again, hm?"

[TasteyPies]

Quistis

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Yaep, you got it Tp. Now go and take your turn!

Trowa: *Sits and stares and sits and stares*

[Chris]

Quote: "You were always smiling while listening, right? You have beautiful eyes.
Though they look a bit scared now.
Don't worry, I'm not going to pluck'em and eat'em.
I just want to talk, gazing into those eyes.
Would you like a drink? Wine perhaps?"

[Rusty]

Thats Julia isn't it?

[Chris]

Correct.

Your turn.

[Rusty]

"I prefer to be called her knight"

Obvious I know.

[nik0tine]

Oh.. I don't know.. could that possibly be Seifer??? Just a random guess. :D

[Rusty]

Yea it is :) Sorry it was really obvious, I couldn't think of anything else. Your turn.

[Coda]

I hope no1 minds but this nik0tine didn't make a quote so i will instead.
Here goes:
"Who said this was a game...?"

[Auronhart]

Rinoa.

[Coda]

ur turn

[Auronhart]

Here we go. Could be a hard one. :(
"oh my gosh, I'm so happy"

[Coda]

shweet rinoa agen
2nd disc

[Auronhart]

Yes, your turn. :D (people who haven't sent rinoa to the missile base wouldn't have got that most likely)

[Coda]

yer mayb but rinoa was terrible so everyone sends her to missile base
neway my one
here goes
"Good. Looks like we understand each other."

[Auronhart]

Hmm, I'm not so sure about this one. Could it be one of the people at FH when Squall leaves the garden to go see the mayor in disk 2. (just outside the door to the garden)

[Coda]

sorry no
but it is disk 2

[FatedChild]

Is it Seifer in the D-District prison?

[Auronhart]

Well, I am now 100% certain that my previous guess was an answer if not the one you were looking for. The guy says that exact line. So at least I didn't make a mistake.

[Coda]

well fine
il alow it Auronhart
its the mayor of FH
so its a bit more defined than just some1
but neway ur turn

[Auronhart]

No it isn't, he doesn't say that. Play it again. The guy just outside the garden says it. EDIT:I think it's one of the familiar face guys (the one at the top) (I know because I just played it) Anyways, now for an easy one, "We can't back out now.."

[Coda]

is it raijin saying "we can't back out now, ya know"

[Auronhart]

Yes. Your turn.

[Coda]

enjoy!
"Know her...? She's really the only reason why we're here."

[Auronhart]

I'm pretty sure it's Kiros. The only other possibility is Laguna, but I'm almost sure it's Kiros.

[Coda]

its kiros. so its ur turn but are we the other ones playin?

[Auronhart]

Yeah, right now we might be. Another easy one "Quistis was right..". I have a possibly hard one stored up but I need to check it.

[Cecilia]

Hm.. I dont remember who said that, so Ill just guess.. If its alright..
Squall?

[Auronhart]

No, guess again.

[Coda]

damn thats veige.
Its either headmaster cid disk 2 or
Rinoa disk 2 when shes talkin bout bein predictable

[ill-fated-life]

damn thats veige.
Its either headmaster cid disk 2 or
Rinoa disk 2 when shes talkin bout bein predictable
good job Coda...kinda sucks i just joined in on this like......now, hehe.

[Auronhart]

Yeah, it was headmaster cid. Rinoa would have been acceptable too. (As long as you give the part which you did (not that it matters but, vague is how you spell it))

[Coda]

so i can't spell Geez
neways
"You know what the old folks say...The unfamiliar always happens..."

[Auronhart]

Laguna(disk 1, second encounter)?

[Coda]

Correct!!!
um just wonderin... do u no every quote?

[Auronhart]

um just wonderin... do u no every quote?
No, though I wish I did. (I am such an FF8 fanatic, but I am not quite there yet:( :D ). Ok my turn now, um "go arrest that student for a violation of academy regulations". Not a great one but oh well.

[Coda]

Seifer!
Woot! very simple

[Auronhart]

Yes

[Coda]

Another easy one
"SeeD? Garden?"

[Auronhart]

Edea in the ending?

[Coda]

yep
spoiler?

[Auronhart]

It's a fairly small one, but I added it anyways. Ok how about "then we invade".

[Coda]

I thought squall for the battle b/w gardens.
but u no, now i think its wrong.
the line is wrong!!!
Its squall at start of disk two tellin bout seeD
and its "then we in... invade"
lol
i started playin again

[Auronhart]

It's close enough, that's what he's trying to say. (I usually don't choose that option anyways) Plus, it would have given it away if I wrote that. Your turn.

[Coda]

Wow, i let this die, sorry
neways my quote
"I'm sorry, but we can't make any exceptions."

[Pinkerton]

quistis

[amratis]

"I dont know what to do...This is just another crossroad in my life. But, for the first time, I dont know which way to go. I've come this far bacause I've...fallen for you....."

Random and off topic but can I just say I love your sig pic Angel Wing :D

amra

[Coda]

nope and its very hard!

[Halenite]

Xu or Cid?

[Faris]

or maybe a hotel clerk?

[Auronhart]

nope and its very hard!
Yeah, I noticed. I hope it's something really obscure.

[Pinkerton]

Got it. The hotel clerk at Timber during your first visit. The Galbadian soilders have the place occupied, and though Rinoa knows the clerk, "...there are no exceptions."

Jonas

[Auronhart]

"...there are no exceptions."
Really? That is very well done if that is the answer Coda was thinking of.

[FFVIII Fan]

Really? That is very well done if that is the answer Coda was thinking of.
its squall speakn 2 rinoa at edeas house on disc 3!

[Coda]

k none r correct
but Pinkerton has the right disc, right place, right time in a time line. just wrong person.

[Pinkerton]

Pretty sure I have it this time. The guard on the left outside the TV station in Timber on your first visit.

Jonas

[Coda]

yer il give it.
its one of the guards on the bridge in timber when they are arguing about the invaders.
ur turn

[Pinkerton]

"So... looks like this is it."

[ill-fated-life]

"So... looks like this is it."
It's Dr. Kadowaki when the Galbadian Soldiers are attacking during the battle between Gardens

[Coda]

um? if thats not right i think the quote is wrong.

[Kamrusepas]

More quotes?

[ill-fated-life]

okay....here's one...

"Childhood..."

[Pinkerton]

ill-fated-life's got it

[Coda]

Ultemicia in final battle

[ill-fated-life]

That's correct....You're up Coda

[Coda]

Woot!
K hard one, possibly
"I wonder how the town's holding up...?"

[Garnet236]

squall?

[bahamutmaster]

Zell, when he enters Balamb City after Galbadia has taken over.

wait for confirm.

[Garnet236]

Well Coda....is that the answer?

[Coda]

sorry i was away
and no it was none of them.
hint: no main character

[Sepho]

Zell's mom?

[Garnet236]

one of the people in Balamb??

[Angel Rinoa]

Should we know his name or is it a random person? o.o

[Garnet236]

Hey coda...give us another hint..

It's been like 12 days since you wrote the quote...but nobody can answer it!!

[Dragon Ash]

i think it may possibly, probably, most likely be xu or nida?

maybe? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Garnet236]

It's been a while now....but Coda hasn't showed up yet...

Codaaa...where are you?

[Coda]

sorry been away and il give you a hint
in timber
its a person that after you ask twice will give this quote.

[Garnet236]

Hm....I can't seem to remember who...

Is it the old man who lives with a young boy...with a dog??

[nik0tine]

My best guess would be the leader of Forest Fox, that lady who spanks her kid in disk one. If I am right, someone else may take my turn if I do not answer withing a day.

[Coda]

um crap, i mixed up timber and balamb. its balamb.
oh and bahamutmaster is very close in the time. just wrong person

[Garnet236]

Squall??

[Coda]

no I said no main character

[Garnet236]

oh yeah...I forgot....I'm gonna guess again....Is it the Queen of Cards??

[Coda]

no, big hint, its someone in a place that offers a service - junkshop, car hire and so on

[Garnet236]

oh yeah...i remember him....but I cant remember his name...!!!

[Kamrusepas]

.....I think someone oughta tell the answer already, the thread is not moving anywhere :)

[nik0tine]

no, big hint, its someone in a place that offers a service - junkshop, car hire and so on

Is it the reporter in Balamb that hides behind the truck. The guy who let's you buy a hint about where Raijin is "patrolling"?

[Coda]

no, to all so far and another hint, the character has no name, its title is its proffession.
BIG HINT: Junk Shop owner or Car Hire owner and so on

[Xaven]

Sorry to butt in but.... I think it's the Bartender...

I might be wrong though...

Edit: Dot dot dot.

[Coda]

nope

[redxiiii]

Is it the man who works at the rent-a-car place

[Doors]

I think the guy who you are talking about is in either Winhill,Timber or Balamb and he isnt a junk shop seller.

Hmmm...
Is it the Balamb car salesman?

[nik0tine]

Is it the girl who sells items near the train station at Balamb, right next to the Queen of Cards?

[Coda]

no, what other services are in town

[Xaven]

Train Station Worker?? :(
I shoulda known this...

[Coda]

no! you've left out one service!
its got a timber maniacs magazine in it!

[Garnet236]

the nurse ??

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Is it the inn owner?

[redxiiii]

Yeah I agree wit sp

[Coda]

YAY!!!! you got it! He prefers to be called Hotel Owner but your right!!!
ur turn

[Xaven]

GO AWAY.

[ChaosCalibur]

Eh....Xu?

post no. 666 :(

[Xaven]

Nope. Close, though! Keep tryin'!

[Coda]

QUISTIS!!!!!!
Wait why r u answering Xaven. Its shockpulsars turn, so shockpulsar take my turn

[Xaven]

:eek: Sorry for screwing everything up! :cry:

Just go on as if I were never here...! :riiight:

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Don't worry. Okay here it goes:
"Yeah, but you cut a pretty painful figure up there. I'd say you're about a -3 on the manliness scale"

[redxiiii]

Selphie?

[Dragon Ash]

could that be ward, (before he lost his voice) talking to laguna after he pulled the whole leg cramp thing in front of julia?

[Shockwave Pulsar]

No, but close.

[Dragon Ash]

could it be Kiros then?

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Yes :), your turn.

[Dragon Ash]

Hope this one hasn't been done yet.

"...All right. But I'm gonna say it one more time. If something
happens to Rinoa again, I swear..."

Shouldn't be too hard, but it's the best I can do at short notice.

[Coda]

ZONE!!!!

[durnurd]

Sorry, I just couldn't wait:

"yOu fOoLs! dID YOu tHInk yOU COulD kIll mE?"

Should be easy enough :)

[Coda]

its not in it, now go away and wait ur turn

[Coda]

id say ultimecia but the line isn't it the game!!!

[redxiiii]

I think skye1986 quote was zone and durnurd`s is fake deling.

[Coda]

it sounds like the fake president but there is no line like that in the game!

[Wolfmeister]

Yes it is easy

if the quote does not come from Fake Deling then whoelse could speak in such manner? it must be Master NORG :D

[Coda]

nope master NORG uses dashes like so "You-thought-you...."
but what i meant is that it is the dialect of Fake president deling but the line doesn't appear in the game. so yer

[Dianom]

Is it Selphie

[Dragon Ash]

Very, very sorry.

Coda was right, durnurd please wait your turn.

[Wolfmeister]

What? it is not NORG's?? :eek:

On second thought the question was not that easy....

You mean that question appears in battles??
hmm let me try again... Krysta.

[Coda]

You stupid people! Listen to me!!! THe quote is not in the game. THe quote doesn't appear inthe game. THe only time You Fools is even said is by a galbadian guard. The quote is NOT there. and either way durnurd wait your turn since its mine.

Since durnurds quote isn't in the game the new quote will be mine.

K simple as pie and because of the hardness of my last question this is a character with an actual name.

"I can't remember the last time she called me that."

[nords2]

How about Cid.

[Pinkerton]

Coda's is Caraway.

[Coda]

Yer its caraway. Like i said. simple.
Its your turnand dont worry bout the other quote coz it ruined the flow.

[nords2]

"I can't remember the last time she called me that."


Oddly enough, I just got to that part of the game today. Too bad I wasn't there yesterday. Oh well, bring on the next question.

[Pinkerton]

"'I gotta do my best by myself. Or else I won't be able to see Sis.'"

[Coda]

usin the word sis makes it so easy
Squall

[Pinkerton]

Nope.

[Halenite]

Didn't Seifer say that?

[Bahumat]

Young Squall, in one of the flashbacks. you were right, Coda. Your go again.

[Coda]

"What's this, an elevator?"

[Xaven]

Would dat be Zell from the SeeD field exam?

[Wolfmeister]

It's Zell's (or maybe any second person in the party?) quote when they found secret elevator on the journey to Esthar

[Coda]

well its zell in esthar but i think i have to give it to zaven even though he chose the incorrect place and u chose the correct one.
Ur turn xaven

[Garnet236]

Xaven...where are you...??

We're waiting for you to write a quote here.....

[Pinkerton]

Whoa Whoa Whoa. I haven't been around, but Coda still isn't right. It wasn't Squall. I'de really like to see someone get this.

[Xaven]

Sorry I'm late. ...Lack of computer privelages.

Anywhoo: "I'm busy now. Waddya want?"

May have misspelled Waddya, so sry!

And as for Pinkerton... Is it Edea/Matron quoting Squall?

Edit: This may be harder than I thought.

[Garnet236]

is it the mayor of fisherman horizon..?

[Pinkerton]

Xaven is making progress. No it's not Edea though.

[Lord Xehanort]

Whoa Whoa Whoa. I haven't been around, but Coda still isn't right. It wasn't Squall. I'de really like to see someone get this.

Ansem: Quistis may have said that while lecturing Squall...

Kounetsu: I think that the sexy cowboy, Irvine, said it, talking about Young Squall.

[Garnet236]

I'm a bit confuse here....which one is the quote?? And who's turn is it anyway??

[Shockwave Pulsar]

It's still Pinkerton turn and this is his quote:
"'I gotta do my best by myself. Or else I won't be able to see Sis.'"

BTW - I agree with ansem, somehow i remember irvine saying it...

[Bahumat]

Didn't we go past it ages ago?

[Garnet236]

hmm.....i'm not sure who said that quote...but i'll guess....is it Zell??

[Shockwave Pulsar]

It's Pinkerton's quote, he's been gone for few days tho, so meaby we should move on.

[Xaven]

Okay... Should we just go with mine that was posted a while up?

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Okay. Laguna?

[Xaven]

Nope. Not Laguna!

Again the quote's "I'm busy now. Waddya want?" :spin:

[Garnet236]

the mayor of fisherman horizon (FH)

[Goblin]

Again the quote's "I'm busy now. Waddya want?"

The red soldeir at the communication tower. I can't remember if his name was wedge or biggs. ^^;

[Xaven]

The red soldeir at the communication tower. I can't remember if his name was wedge or biggs. ^^;

Nope.


the mayor of fisherman horizon (FH)

Nope either! ;)

[Rampala]

The Master Fisherman at FH?

[Rusty]

Is it that store owner in the 'rough side' of Winhill across from the Church?

[Goblin]

was it one of the technicians in trabia garden?

[Pinkerton]

Wow I have been gone awhile. Yeah Ansem got it right by the way.

[Xaven]

Is it that store owner in the 'rough side' of Winhill across from the Church?

No.


Is it that store owner in the 'rough side' of Winhill across from the Church?

Neither this.


was it one of the technicians in trabia garden?

No neither!


Alright, I think maybe I might just give out a hint...

~The person who says this is actually a Galbadian Soldier. Now you need to specify which one, and where...~

[Rusty]

Is it Biggs on top of the communications tower?

[Rampala]

It's a bit of a general quote, isn't it? I mean, it could have been said by just about anyone...

I'm guessing... a Galbadian soldier at the Missile Base?

[Destai]

It was the galbadian soldier at the missile base who was loading the missiles. Selphie and co. were ordered to move a mssile by him by repeatedly pressing what I think was the square button then they were given a message to pass on from him. The player got the option to mess up the answer or do as they were told. Im not guessing, Im definite (but I'll wait for conformation just in case (:x) )

[Xaven]

Yer right. It's a soldier on the matenence team at the missle base.

So um.... who should get it? Rampala got it first but is was very general and Destai got it second but she got the exact person...
Next, it's When Rules Collide! *Dun, Dun, Duuuun!!!* Only brought to you by channel 1/2, the network you trust!

Weeellll, I kinda sorta did ask for the exact one... Alright fine. Destai gets it. Sorry Rampala. :cry: *gets killed by his conscience for making someone sad* :boohoo: It makes me sad to see others sad.

Okay!! 'Tis Destai's turn!!!

[Destai]

um...sorry /: D
This might be a word off but -
She stands here before you!

[Xaven]

Sorceress Edea said that near the end of disk 1. She was adressing the people of Deling City right before her parade.

[Destai]

That is correct. I love that part of the game.

[Xaven]

Okay, here's another one.

"Up yours!" :D I don't think this one will be too difficult.

[Angelroo]

hello, is it zell?

[Xaven]

hello, is it zell?

No, sorry.

[redxiiii]

Seifer? or fujin? :confused:

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Selphie?

[Xaven]

Selphie?

Yep. 'Twas Selphie. She said that to the commander at the Galbadian Missle Base.

Okay, Society's turn!

[GhandiOwnsYou]

geez, a thousand pardons. Massive computer problems (friggin Spyware)


"What the Hell?! Whats Goin on in there?!"

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Oh my, this thread has grown! :love:

[Goblin]

"What the Hell?! Whats Goin on in there?!"

That sounds like Zell :)

[Sepho]

Sounds like one of the guards yelling at the party during their time in prison.

That, or a guard yelling at you while you're at the missile base.

Either way, it sounds like a guard yelling at you.

[nords2]

Sounds like one of the guards yelling at the party during their time in prison.

That, or a guard yelling at you while you're at the missile base.

Either way, it sounds like a guard yelling at you.


I'll second that. It's what one of the guards yells at you from outside the cell.

[Sepho]

That would have been my answer if I had to choose between my two suggestions. If it's right (I'm pretty sure it is), go ahead and take my turn.

I'm horrible at thinking up quotes to post.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Nope, Goblin wins it. Tis Zell, first thing he says when he runs into Galbadia Occupied Balamb on disc 2. Take your turn! *bows*

[Goblin]

^_^ thank you! so lets see here....uh.....^^;

"Save it for someone who needs it" real easy I know

[seiyuimore]

^_^ thank you! so lets see here....uh.....^^;

"Save it for someone who needs it" real easy I know


Seifer. Disc 1 in the Garden when Quistis assigned the group to go to Dollet. Quistis said "Good luck" to him

[Goblin]

seiyuimore is right! :D

[Sepho]

I'm always away from my computer and doing something equally non-productive when the easy quotes are posted . :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Gosh :(

[Goblin]

you'll get one of them some time! ^_~ hahaha

[seiyuimore]

Who is next?

[Sepho]

you'll get one of them some time! ^_~ hahaha

I was only kidding. I stop by the Quote threads roughly once every 10,000 years.


Who is next?

That'd be you.

[seiyuimore]

Ok.. . . the next quote would be. . . . easy

"Ga . . . . .Gaa . . .. . Galbadian Soldiers!!"

[Goblin]

Ok.. . . the next quote would be. . . . easy

"Ga . . . . .Gaa . . .. . Galbadian Soldiers!!"

an npc from FH running down the stairs towards the mayors house. Happens as you're walking up the stairs after you get done talking to the mayor. :D

[seiyuimore]

an npc from FH running down the stairs towards the mayors house. Happens as you're walking up the stairs after you get done talking to the mayor. :D


Excellent! Completely right !! :D

[Goblin]

ok let's see here........

"I must be asleep"

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Squall, perhaps? :D

[Destination0]

I think its Ellone in one of the dream sequence

[Goblin]

I think its Ellone in one of the dream sequence

You are correct! :cool:

[Destination0]

well here is the next one
Its an easy one...
who said...
"I think I know who you're talking about!"

[Garnet236]

is it squall?

[Armisael]

Selphie?

[Destination0]

nope...

[seiyuimore]

Irvine?

[Destination0]

nope...

[Goblin]

"I think I know who you're talking about!"

I'm thinking Xu said that. :)

[Destination0]

nope...should I give the answer?

[Goblin]

maybe Quistis at Trabia Garden when they're all talking about the orphanage? :confused:

[Garnet236]

is it rinoa?