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The Captain
07-06-2004, 11:06 PM
As all my fellow ESPN fans probably know, the World Series of Poker has begun to pop up on TV lately, seeming more and more each day. However, is poker, blackjack or any form of card game even a sport?

Take care all.

eestlinc
07-06-2004, 11:19 PM
not really, but gambling is a sport-related activity, so i can see the espn connection. also, they show stuff like the national spelling bee, which is equally competitive yet non-sport.

Kirobaito
07-07-2004, 12:11 AM
Since it's so awesome, I consider it a sport. The World Series of Poker has got to be the coolest thing on TV today, besides Rangers games.

Dingo Jellybean
07-07-2004, 01:40 AM
It is a sport because by defintion, it's an active past time and recreation. However, gamblers, like NASCAR drivers and golfers are NOT athletes.

RSL
07-07-2004, 01:51 AM
Oh man, don't get me started on that racecar drivers aren't athletes bullcrap.

Poker isn't a sport in the traditional sense, but I can see why ESPN would air it. I have no interest in watching it on TV, as I would also not watch televised chess matches.

-N-
07-07-2004, 02:39 AM
Poker is teh rawk.

Dingo Jellybean
07-07-2004, 02:47 AM
Oh man, don't get me started on that racecar drivers aren't athletes bullcrap.

Poker isn't a sport in the traditional sense, but I can see why ESPN would air it. I have no interest in watching it on TV, as I would also not watch televised chess matches.

That's because they aren't. I know you're a fan of NASCAR, but telling me Tony Stewart is an athlete is a total smack in the face to Micahel Jordan or Wayne Gretzky.

Del Murder
07-07-2004, 03:01 AM
Maybe you should ask Michael and Wayne what they think before you speak for them. :)

I don't consider poker a sport. It is a game. It takes quite a good deal of skill, but the physical activity is limited, and that's what I use to define sports.

Dingo Jellybean
07-07-2004, 03:05 AM
Maybe you should ask Michael and Wayne what they think before you speak for them. :)

I don't consider poker a sport. It is a game. It takes quite a good deal of skill, but the physical activity is limited, and that's what I use to define sports.

Getting a straight answer out of them is hell, because they have all these sponsors and endorsements, they can't risk losing potential customers based on views that could offend people.

But I'm sure, I'd bet $100 on it, that they wouldn't define drivers as athletes. Otherwise my 50 year old 23% body fat 6'1" 230 lb. neighbor would be an athlete.

-N-
07-07-2004, 03:07 AM
What about $5,000,000?

Del Murder
07-07-2004, 03:12 AM
Remind me in 40 years to ask them when they're old and don't have to worry about endorcement deals so we can settle this bet.

eestlinc
07-07-2004, 05:05 AM
I'm sure overweight 50 year olds win plenty of races.

m4tt
07-07-2004, 05:23 AM
I watched a few minutes of the WSOP this weekend. Those people work so hard. Sitting at a table, playing cards for 25 hours in two days. Oh my god. :rolleyes2

If that's a sport, and they are athletes, then all of us are athletes. I'm sure most of us have sat and played video games for 25 hours in the span of two days at least once in our lives. And that takes a lot more energy. Moving your fingers and hands. Card players just sit there and play cards.. :confused:

Dingo Jellybean
07-07-2004, 06:40 AM
I watched a few minutes of the WSOP this weekend. Those people work so hard. Sitting at a table, playing cards for 25 hours in two days. Oh my god. :rolleyes2

If that's a sport, and they are athletes, then all of us are athletes. I'm sure most of us have sat and played video games for 25 hours in the span of two days at least once in our lives. And that takes a lot more energy. Moving your fingers and hands. Card players just sit there and play cards.. :confused:

You're forgetting that the definition of a sport never mentions the word "athlete." But that's the literal sense...and by that, Poker and even videogames are a sport.

The connotative defintion would throw Poker out as a sport, as well as videogames because they require little physical activity, endurance, and agility.

Casey
07-07-2004, 04:53 PM
No its not, because you see people moviing cards and chips and WOW exciting. Its just as exciting as clicking the remote buttons, or better yet walking. But when 5 million is involved well yeah, there high stakes right there, and so its intresting.