Firefox = bad

[Lindy]

lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
Oh god, oh god
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I heavily dislike Firefox
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
It's so ugly and slow, and doesn't work
Rainecloud says:
True, true.
Rainecloud says:
Try telling that to UNNE.
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I will
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I'll make a topic about it
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I try and import stuff from IE, and it CRASHES
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I search for more extensions and themes, and it says it can't find the server
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
It's slow
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
It's ugly
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
It's just annoying
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
And it says it transfers cookies and saved passwords, but it doesn't
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
I went to EoFF using it, and I had to re-enter my username and password
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
It sucks
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
Plus it's a tabbed browser, and I don't know about you, but I find something comforting in having lots of windows open
lindy hop | rocket? in my pocket? i'm sorry, i think you mean nuclear missile says:
Each one being a different site
Rainecloud says:
Me too.
Rainecloud says:
That's why I'm still using IE.

I rest my weary case. Screw the chance of getting a virus, I'll take my chances with SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WORKS, kthnx. Never got an error in mscvrt.dll, or whatever it is, in IE.

[Jebus]

Maybe it just doesn't like you. I use it and everything works fine.

[Agent Proto]

Firefox has been good to me as that each time I open IE. I get this spyware that always leads to this site "Casino Palazzo" and I can't stop it, so I stopped using IE. As for Firefox. I agree with tabs. I don't particularly like them, but there's an option to make Firefox to open windows instead of getting a new tab. :)

[Female Ryuichi]

I like tabs. Leave me alone :cry: :(

[Leeza]

Firefox is not ugly.

[Psychotic]

I agree with Lindz. I tried Firefox, it sucked. Anyway, didn't Rainecloud say he loved Firefox in that Unne thread?

[Nait]

That's it, you convinced me! I will change back to IE this instance.

[Trumpet Thief]

I agree with Lindz. I tried Firefox, it sucked. Anyway, didn't Rainecloud say he loved Firefox in that Unne thread?

I agree...

[Agent Proto]

I'm happily using Mozilla. It's great.

You should all download it now. No excuses.

[Nait]

Ok, here I am using IE... Everything seems fine, a bit of a tight feeling, though... Yup, this isn't so b

[Dr Unne]

This post is a semi-troll, but I'll go ahead and tell you how you're wrong anyways. :)

It's so ugly and slow, and doesn't work

Theme it; it's not slow; it does work.

I try and import stuff from IE, and it CRASHES

You should start from scratch with Firefox, rather than infest Firefox with the trash IE has accumulated.

I search for more extensions and themes, and it says it can't find the server

http://update.mozilla.org , http://texturizer.net/firefox/ , need any others? Because I know of plenty of places to get Firefox themes. Note: extensions and themes for IE don't even exist.

I went to EoFF using it, and I had to re-enter my username and password

Those 5 seconds worth of typing were certainly traumatic, right? I mean, compared to having personal information stolen or your hard drive formatted by a virus, I can see why having to type your password into EoFF again is far worse than that.

Plus it's a tabbed browser, and I don't know about you, but I find something comforting in having lots of windows open

One window per popup ad, you mean?

[War Angel]

Internet Explorer is by far the superior browser... HOWEVER, in accordance with the EVIL that is Microsoft, all kinds of spywares, pop-ups and various shit cling to it, making it impossible to use as time goes by. So, you have to use other, simpler browsers, like Firefox.

[Nait]

I SOLEMNLY SWEAR BY MY HEART AND MY MIND, I SHALL NEVER STRAY OFF THE PATH AGAIN. IF I SO DO, SO HELP ME HEAVENS, FOR I AM IN THE DARKEST VALLEYS WITHOUT MERCY BY MY SIDE. Amen.

[Female Ryuichi]

IE always crashing on me every day.

I have now had firefox for a week, and no crashes.

Therefore Firefox>IE

[Lindy]

Theme it; it's not slow; it does work.

Why bother since I'm not going to use? ; Yes, it is, it runs far slower than IE, loads far slower too ; No, it doesn't work, since I've tried to customise just a few things and it crashes

You should start from scratch with Firefox, rather than infest Firefox with the trash IE has accumulated.

What? Trash like the USEFUL favourites I have, or the saved passwords maybe?

http://update.mozilla.org , http://texturizer.net/firefox/ , need any others? Because I know of plenty of places to get Firefox themes. Note: extensions and themes for IE don't even exist.

So? IE has all it needs in it anyway.

Those 5 seconds worth of typing were certainly traumatic, right? I mean, compared to having personal information stolen or your hard drive formatted by a virus, I can see why having to type your password into EoFF again is far worse than that.

I don't get viruses because I don't open emails from people I don't know, or go to dodgy sites, but then maybe people who use firefox do that very often and so need some kind of extra protection =)

One window per popup ad, you mean?

Pop-ups being something I never get thanks to Spybot Tea-Timer and a nice pop-up stopper.

Nice to see enough people agreeing with me anyway.

I don't see how this is a semi-troll thread anyway, unless Firefox happens to be a member at this forum?

P.S. I HAVE tried using it, I tried for about an hour, testing it out and such, but it just felt clunky and horrible, maybe I'll give it a go later on, but I doubt it.

I've tried using things other than I.E. I tried using Firebird when suggested, but that felt equally horrible, tried Mozilla, hated that too. Netscape is just unmentionable, Avant browser is pretty terrible, and the best of a bad bunch I'd have to say is Opera, but even that is pretty dire.

I think, for once, I'll quite happily conform <b>to windows standards</b> (Hi Nait!), because no matter what can happen to my computer, it can't get worse than it already is. I have enough protection from everything, spyware, viruses and everything, and I don't look at anything dodgy so I don't really need to worry.

[Nait]

I think, for once, I'll quite happily conform,



<big><b>AH-HA!</b></big> So you should use <i>FIREFOX</i>!

I gotcha now, ho-ho, you'll not slip from this one! A steel-hard grip!

[Lindy]

<big><b>AH-HA!</b></big> So you should use <i>FIREFOX</i>!

I gotcha now, ho-ho, you'll not slip from this one! A steel-hard grip!
Hi Nait, try and read my post next time? *cheats*

[Nait]

Hi Nait, try and read my post next time? *cheats*




<big><b>FOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL</b></big>


EDIT:

FURTHERMORE, there are no standards in Windows - only anomalies!

[Loony BoB]

Lindz is the yay of my day. And I agree with pretty much everything he's said. And seriously, if someone isn't smart enough to know not to go to virus infested sites then they aren't smart enough to know to say "no" when Firefox or whatever prompts them saying "Would you like to install this virus? It will format your hard drive."

The main thing I'll agree on that I haven't pointed out beforehand is how ugly it is. Do they have a Firefox theme that looks exactly like IE? Because they should. The reason I would never change theme - even if I could - is because I think the existing layout of IE is faultless.

[Ouch!]

Never used Firefox. I trust IE. I've only gotten three viruses since using IE and they were all easily contained and deleted. I really see no problem with it.

[Shoyku]

Firefox > IE.

END OF DISCUSSION!

[Lindy]

<big><b>FOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL</b></big>


EDIT:

FURTHERMORE, there are no standards in Windows - only anomalies!
Windows standards means use IE, use Microsoft Word to write documents, use Microsoft Media Player for videos and music.

All I use out of those is IE though, I use Lotus for documents, or maybe Notepad and Winamp for music and DivX for videos.

And BoB is my yay of the day for actually writing what's good about IE, rather than just stating that he agrees with me in a single sentence.

[Rye]

Firebird is good for the people who don't have the best protection on their computer and don't like pop-up. I only have a spy-ware checker and an anti-virus thing. I get viruses all the time with IE. I haven't gotten one yet with Firebird. I think Firebird looks nice. It looks like IE, except more colourful.

[Nait]

You and your people have forsaken all that which is holy and good - you have never embraced it! I will not turn before your assault, for I shall speak unto you, and make yourself turn unto me, and the redemption you shall find in the Fox.

For hath not Unne spoken? For <i>hath</i> not Unne <i>spoken</i>? I ask thee, and thee, and thee, you who are here! <i>HATH</i> not Unne <i>SPOKEN</i>? And I say to you, YES, Unne has SPOKEN! And he hath not spoken to me, and he hath not spoken to himself, <i>NO</i>, Unne is speaking to YOU...! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU, Lindz and BoB and Raine! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU! Listen to his words! <i>List</i>en... To the Fox! Liiisten to the word of the Fox! Search your souls, all who have come here, I say to thee, search thine soul! Seaaarch thine soul, I say, SEARCH thine soul, and embrace, I say, embrace the Fire you find there! Embrace that Fire, and that fire shalt make you free again! Embraaace that Fire!


...


I need a choir.

[Kirobaito]

I use Mozilla. I find no problems with it. Last night, Mozilla didn't log me out after every page. :D I liked that. Going to a page that Squall-fan1tehe posted in didn't send me to an infinitely-repeating page that sang "You are an idiot." I don't use IE, I use MSN Explorer initially, because my dial-up screen automatically opens it. But MSN Explorer is never touched after that, I open up Firefox, and can go about my business as usual. I don't have any themes for it, I say who gives a damn? It's fine the way it is.

[Rye]

You and your people have forsaken all that which is holy and good - you have never embraced it! I will not turn before your assault, for I shall speak unto you, and make yourself turn unto me, and the redemption you shall find in the Fox.

For hath not Unne spoken? For <i>hath</i> not Unne <i>spoken</i>? I ask thee, and thee, and thee, you who are here! <i>HATH</i> not Unne <i>SPOKEN</i>? And I say to you, YES, Unne has SPOKEN! And he hath not spoken to me, and he hath not spoken to himself, <i>NO</i>, Unne is speaking to YOU...! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU, Lindz and BoB and Raine! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU! Listen to his words! <i>List</i>en... To the Fox! Liiisten to the word of the Fox! Search your souls, all who have come here, I say to thee, search thine soul! Seaaarch thine soul, I say, SEARCH thine soul, and embrace, I say, embrace the Fire you find there! Embrace that Fire, and that fire shalt make you free again! Embraaace that Fire!


...


I need a choir.


That was beautiful, Nait. :cry:

[Lindy]

I need psychiatric help. Now.

[Chibi Youkai]

I like firebird. Anyways, I never went to any of those dodgy sites you keep mentioning, nad yet still go viruses and popups. PLus, I rather like the tab system, all the windows annoy me, plus it's quicker to work the tabs than eack individual window.

[Meat Puppet]

Firefox is loading sites really slow at the moment. Like, 10 minute a page at EoFF. I don't know why, because IE is still going normal. IE is still a crashy bitch whereas Firefox is nice and stable, but I need my sites loading past please.

[Chibi Youkai]

IE's always been slower for me.

[Rainecloud]

I agree with Lindz. I tried Firefox, it sucked. Anyway, didn't Rainecloud say he loved Firefox in that Unne thread?

He did, for about a day. I liked it to begin with, and then the flaws became apparent.

[RSL]

It's ugly? Not really. But that's personal preference. I don't sit and stare at the top of the screen anyway. I'm usually reading the website I'm looking at.

It's slow? I think it must be something with you. It has never been slow for me.

Flaws? What flaws. In my opinion, firefox works just about the same as IE minus the problems with IE. And tabbed browsing is great. I don't know how I ever lived without it.

But in the end, I really don't care what browsers you all use. I'm going to stick with the one I like, you do the same. It's not like I have to use your computer.

[crono_logical]

Firefox is ugly, yes, I'll agree with that, especially the download manager. Which is why I stick to Mozilla myself, same inner workings as far as I know :p

[Sess020]

Agreed
I use to use that stuff but it got really slow after a while and just went to hell on my computer.
I now use Mozilla and it works really well. :hyper:

[War Angel]

You and your people have forsaken all that which is holy and good - you have never embraced it! I will not turn before your assault, for I shall speak unto you, and make yourself turn unto me, and the redemption you shall find in the Fox.

For hath not Unne spoken? For hath not Unne spoken? I ask thee, and thee, and thee, you who are here! HATH not Unne SPOKEN? And I say to you, YES, Unne has SPOKEN! And he hath not spoken to me, and he hath not spoken to himself, NO, Unne is speaking to YOU...! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU, Lindz and BoB and Raine! UNNE is SPEAKING to YOU! Listen to his words! Listen... To the Fox! Liiisten to the word of the Fox! Search your souls, all who have come here, I say to thee, search thine soul! Seaaarch thine soul, I say, SEARCH thine soul, and embrace, I say, embrace the Fire you find there! Embrace that Fire, and that fire shalt make you free again! Embraaace that Fire!


...


I need a choir.
You're insane. Marry me?

[Yamaneko]

But in the end, I really don't care what browsers you all use. I'm going to stick with the one I like, you do the same. It's not like I have to use your computer.

[Shoeberto]

When I got broadband, I thought pages were loading rather slowly in IE, so I switched to Firefox and I noticed a major increase in speed.

Most of the 0.9 themes are very, very ugly. Phoenity Neo hasn't been ported yet, which I need ;_;.

And tabbed browsing is one of the best things I like about it. When I ever use IE, I keep trying to third mouse button click links and nothing happens.

[Lionx]

I use IE...mainly because i dont see much problems with it..

...But you all know that the AOL browser is the best :x_x:

[Citizen Bleys]

Firefox > IE.

END OF DISCUSSION!

d'accord

[Erdrick Holmes]

d'accord
What he said.

[Chibi Youkai]

What he said.

Ditto.

[Loony BoB]

I'll freely admit that I wouldn't mind seeing an IE with a tabbed browsing option, although I don't know for sure if I'd use it. I only ever have three windows open max, and I like having them all available to me at the bottom of the page with a single click, mainly I flick between programs more often than I flick between different IE windows. That means that if I was using tabbed browsing that I would need to click to the program and then to the window, whereas without tabbed browsing all the different windows are at the bottom already. If that makes any sense. But options are indeed always nice. Then again, I don't use the tabbed IM window option on DeadAIM either.

Aesthetics and using the same browser for everything I do no matter where I am is more important to me, though. I have difficulty with change. One thing I plan to do once I have the money is purchase a second PC, put it into my second bedroom and get my place recabled (there's no way I'd use a router) so I can use the PC in my room for all my usual activities (browsing, site work, music etc) and the PC in the second room can be used for messing around with. I hope to have it set with both XP and Linux and also to have the RAM/Graphics Card capable of running larger programs.

IE vs. Firefox is definitely a case of personal opinion, though, not what is "right" or "wrong" - people use both of them and either have problems or don't have problems. I don't have problems with IE and I do have problems with Firefox.

[Baloki]

Which side was I on again and which one offers the most candy?

[Nait]

Which side was I on again and which one offers the most candy?



Re: Candy


See, it's like this. Firefox is a plate at a self-service table - you can decide what you want to eat. IE is a bag of sweets - and razorblades.

[DMKA]

But in the end, I really don't care what browsers you all use. I'm going to stick with the one I like, you do the same. It's not like I have to use your computer.

[crono_logical]

IE vs. Firefox is definitely a case of personal opinionNo, it's not opinion when you consider all the security flaws in IE :p It's like alcohol - people know alcohol is a drug, and all the problems it can cause, yet they continue to choose to drink it rather than not drink it :p

[Baloki]

Just have done with it and renamed the forum the IE-Firefox Debate forum :D

[Mo-Nercy]

Perhaps people (myself included) use Firefox because we refuse to conform to society. A lot of people use Internet Explorer and us un-conformists believe that Firefox is the better option and we've convinced ourselves thusly.

Then again IE sucks a lot of excrement. And I'm tabbing like 12 sites right now and blocking about 2 million pop-ups.

[Loony BoB]

No, it's not opinion when you consider all the security flaws in IE :p It's like alcohol - people know alcohol is a drug, and all the problems it can cause, yet they continue to choose to drink it rather than not drink it :p
That would show opinion. Some people are of opinion that alcohol is worth the problems, some aren't. It's still a case of opinion more than anything. I think alcohol isn't worth the problems and I think changing to Firefox isn't worth the solutions, particularly when the IE problems aren't troubling me in the slightest.

[Dr Unne]

Aesthetics and using the same browser for everything I do no matter where I am is more important to me, though.

Good thing about Firefox is that you can export your bookmarks and stuff as an XML file, and then import it into Firefox later. For one thing, this lets you save a backup of your bookmarks; IE can't do that. For another, the XML file can be imported from Firefox on any system; I tend to export bookmarks in Linux and import them in Windows, for example.

So far as aesthetics, that's a matter of opinion, but I like being able to customize. I like the fact that I can make my own theme and use it. And Windows in general is hideous, in my opinion.

[Nait]

... I like being able to customize. I like the fact that I can make my own theme and use it. And Windows in general is hideous, in my opinion.

On a side-note, could you give me any pointers for making themes? Much obliged.

[HanaKirei]

Meh, I'm perfectly content with IE. It hasn't given me a virus yet. I'm on dial-up, so I really wouldn't be able to download any big files that would come with Foxfire or any of that. But even if I had a faster connection, why would I want to give up something that works perfectly well for me? Could care less about themes since I'm always too busy looking at the website anyway. Only if I was at the epitomy of boredom. *ducks and covers from the Foxfire flames*

[Nait]

Meh, I'm perfectly content with IE. It hasn't given me a virus yet. I'm on dial-up, so I really wouldn't be able to download any big files that would come with Foxfire or any of that. But even if I had a faster connection, why would I want to give up something that works perfectly well for me? Could care less about themes since I'm always too busy looking at the website anyway. Only if I was at the epitomy of boredom. *ducks and covers from the Foxfire flames*


I've no doubt that 4.7 megabytes is too much for you. Oh the excitement!

[HanaKirei]

I've no doubt that 4.7 megabytes is too much for you. Oh the excitement!

Yes. Yes it is. Especially when I get booted every few hours. >.< *tosses a boot at AT&T*

That, and I'm lazy. Very, very lazy.

[Baloki]

Good thing about Firefox is that you can export your bookmarks and stuff as an XML file, and then import it into Firefox later. For one thing, this lets you save a backup of your bookmarks; IE can't do that. For another, the XML file can be imported from Firefox on any system; I tend to export bookmarks in Linux and import them in Windows, for example.

You can export bookmarks from IE, their files in C:\Windows\favorites or C:\documents & settings\Username\favorites so your lying Mister and I won't have it!

[Rainecloud]

Firefox = bad

[crono_logical]

That would show opinion. Some people are of opinion that alcohol is worth the problems, some aren't. It's still a case of opinion more than anything. I think alcohol isn't worth the problems and I think changing to Firefox isn't worth the solutions, particularly when the IE problems aren't troubling me in the slightest.Whether someone thinks the risk is worth it or not might well be opinion, but that's not the point at hand. The problems which are factually known still exist, and the problems themselves aren't opinions. :p Which one you prefer and think is better to use remains opinion, but from a technical point of view, which one is safer and more robust remains a fact :p

Too many people being reactive than proactive around here :p Well, it's not like I'm not lazy :monster:

[DMKA]

Ok, I'm using Firefox right now and well I'd like to know how to make it run so great as you apparent Firefox worshipers are saying it does...

Here are the problems I'm having with it(which by the way, I have none of these problems with IE):
1. Its running rediculously slow...pages take about 5 minutes to load.
2. Java applications act very crappy and skip flicker and the like.
3. Its not blocking popups even though popup blocking is enabled.
4. When I download a new theme I get an error message and still have the same default theme afterward.

Anyone know how to fix these? Cause if these problems can't be solved then it is indeed the crappiest of crappy browsers.

And my apologies for my ignorance, but what the hell is "Tabbed browsing"?

[Dingo Jellybean]

I personally use Mozilla.

But on some applications, I tend to use Slim Browser. I don't like IE because it gives me no options whatsoever. The interface is decent, but popups are too easy to get through on IE and no tabbed browsing...which is a major turnoff. Slim Browser is just a shell for IE, but at least it gives me the option of filtering pop ups and allows tabbed browsing.

[Kirobaito]

I've finally decided to download a new theme for it, and I'm getting an error message, too. But pages load at the same quickness for me (slow) and I've never had any problem with java.

[Nait]

Anyone know how to fix these?



Switch to Linux.






:tongue:


EDIT:

I keed, I keed.

[DMKA]

Yeah sorry I wish I was rich enough to switch to Linux (if its actually any good) but sadly I'm not. :(

[Kirobaito]

dmka, go to Tools, Options, Themes, and Get New Themes. That'll fix it. I've switched themes now.

[Yamaneko]

Any good Linux distro is free.

[Nait]

Yeah sorry I wish I was rich enough to switch to Linux (if its actually any good) but sadly I'm not. :(


The only thing you have the be rich in is patience. Linux is free, remember? :cool: But yeah, patience. *MSWhore85* :(

[RSL]

And my apologies for my ignorance, but what the hell is "Tabbed browsing"?

http://www.carrotmaster.com/images/tabbed.png

In this picture I have five sites open at one time, but only one browser window. I can switch between each one by clicking on its respective tab up top. Much nicer than having five browser windows open.

[DMKA]

RSL: Thats pretty cool...I'd never known that exsisted...how do I enable it?

KB: Thanks it worked...thats one problem down.

Nait: WHA? *PM's*

[Rainecloud]

In this picture I have five sites open at one time, but only one browser window. I can switch between each one by clicking on its respective tab up top. Much nicer than having five browser windows open.

My God...

*switches to Firefox*

[Baloki]

So which offers the most candy then?

I'm always up for bribes :D

[Chibi Youkai]

Tabbing= good.

[Shoeberto]

RSL: Thats pretty cool...I'd never known that exsisted...how do I enable it?

You don't have to do anything to enable it. If you have a mouse with the middle mouse wheel, you can click on links with that to open it in a new window. If you don't, you can either right-click links and say "Open in new tab" or CTRL+Left click does it.

[crono_logical]

I use a mixture of tabs and windows, 40 tabs in one window is too cluttered :p

[Loony BoB]

Whether someone thinks the risk is worth it or not might well be opinion, but that's not the point at hand. The problems which are factually known still exist, and the problems themselves aren't opinions. :p Which one you prefer and think is better to use remains opinion, but from a technical point of view, which one is safer and more robust remains a fact :p
Anyone who has a good firewall and doesn't go to stupid sites is likely to be pretty well protected and IE6 is pretty safe/robust. I imagine anyone who has Firefox does have a good firewall and doesn't go to stupid sites, so that along with the fact that fewer people use it has a lot more to do with Firefox's good record than most other things do. If a billion people used Firefox with no firewall and they browsed a load of dodgy sites, I imagine that there would be just as many people discovering problems as there are with IE right now. I agree that they would get solved faster and that less people would target a non-profit software, which could be used as an argument to say it's safer to use Firefox, but that doesn't mean that the software is literally that much more robust. It just means it hasn't been put to the test like IE has - I don't think any other software program in browser history ever will be put to such a test, either. But hey, I get by without any problems - IE hasn't crashed on my PC for years. Even when that spam attack came along, while it caused IE to keep refreshing the window, nothing else bad really happened. You'll find that a lot of the problems with IE are actually user-caused rather than hacker-caused, and a lot of them could have been solved by simply adjusting the settings. I think there's a site out there that tests your IE browser and advises on what settings you can change to avoid what problems.

I'll never deny that IE is less safe, but that's about as far as it goes. Safety measures can be taken to secure yourself almost as well as any Firefox user, if not just as well.

[Yrkoon]

been using ie for years now had some problems in the past but nothing major but i felt like a change and more security so i changed to firefox to try it out about 5 weeks ago.

now i dont even want to touch ie with a barge pole its running faster than ie ever has and tabbed browsing is a nice feature i wouldnt want to lose :)

[Nait]

been using ie for years now had some problems in the past but nothing major but i felt like a change and more security so i changed to firefox to try it out about 5 weeks ago.

now i dont even want to touch ie with a barge pole its running faster than ie ever has and tabbed browsing is a nice feature i wouldnt want to lose :)



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[DMKA]

Wow...tabbed web browsing rules. :)

Now just one thing that has me still liking IE over Firefox...if someone can solve this then I'm switching to Firefox, and that is....

Are there any download managers out there where you can pause/resume downloads that will work with Firefox? I have dialup and if there arn't then I'm going right back to IE.

[Yrkoon]

emm the download box for firefox lets you pause downloads or resume them :)

[Shoyku]

GetRight works just fine with Firefox, from my experience.

[DMKA]

emm the download box for firefox lets you pause downloads or resume them :)
Umm I meant one where you can actually resume, like, you know, if you dissconnect, are kicked off, turn off your comp, ect.


GetRight works just fine with Firefox, from my experience.
Really? Awesome. Where can I get GetRight (I've never used it just heard of it)?

[Shoeberto]

www.download.com always has it.

I haven't used GetRight since I got Firefox because I wasn't sure if it'd work.

[Chibi Youkai]

Just out of curiosity, why do you turn your computer off in the middle of a download?

[Dr Unne]

On a side-note, could you give me any pointers for making themes? Much obliged.

I'll assume this is a serious question. Open up the .jar file of a theme that already exists, and start editing the graphics. Other than that, themes are just tons of CSS. Much easier to modify a theme that already exists than to make one from scratch. It is an incredibly painful process no matter what you do.

You can export bookmarks from IE, their files in C:\Windows\favorites or C:\documents & settings\Username\favorites so your lying Mister and I won't have it!

No, I mean that IE doesn't have a menu option "Export bookmarks". You can hand-copy the whole directory of IE favorites, that's all. That's not as easy nor as useful.

Anyone who has a good firewall and doesn't go to stupid sites is likely to be pretty well protected and IE6 is pretty safe/robust.

Unless something like this happens: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6746-2004Jun25.html In which case any mainstream site can be a virus-installing trap. Apparently a couple thousand mainstream sites WERE, but the government isn't saying which ones, so who knows.

For everyone who says "I never got a virus, so nyah", how do you know you haven't? A good virus doesn't say "VICTORY! YOU'RE INFECTED! MY NAME IS IE_VIRUS_10834545, NOW PLEASE DON'T UNINSTALL ME! FORMATTING HARD DRIVE, PRESS ENTER TO CANCEL!" It just quietly sits in the background going about its business. (The second I got ANY virus, I'd format my hard drive and start with a clean install, because once you're infected, you never know what a virus is doing. Maybe it went and b0rked your Norton Antivirus program not to recognize various other viruses any longer. They do that kind of thing you know.)

You can say "Eh, that kind of crap never really happens to anyone", but there are tens of thousands of spam-relaying zombies out there, so much so that Comcast had to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040629-3945.html">block port 25</a> for a lot of users. Zombies are computers on a network that have been compromised without the owner knowing anything about it, and a zombie can be used as free resources to do anything a malicious user wants it to do.

A firewall helps against some kinds of viruses, yeah. A firewall doesn't stop you from getting a virus if you happen to invite the virus in, or if IE happens to do it on your behalf. If you initiate a transfer yourself, everything is fair game after that. A firewall will stop Blaster sorts of worms; it will not stop a virus if you click on a malformed link in IE which looks like a link to Google and is impossible to distinguish as anything but such a link (in IE), but which actually points to a malicious site. Cue my <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5Bln%5D;833786">favorite link</a>. MS itself recommends that the only way to be safe from malformed links is by typing out every single URL by hand.

[DMKA]

Just out of curiosity, why do you turn your computer off in the middle of a download?
Its called dialup and people here will bitch if I leave the computer on all night while I'm downloading something that takes 4
hours.

[crono_logical]

http://mozilla.org/security/shell.html

Bug in Windows versions of Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird. Go download now :p It's only the early hours of 9th here, and still the 8th in parts of the USA. Does Microsoft ever get bug fixes out in little over 24 hours of a bug being found? Not that I know of :p I guess the only flaw is the lack of automatic/easy notification/update for the average Joe Bloggs user out there. But then the average user, plus many sysadmins too, obviously don't bother get MS patches either anyway - otherwise the recent IE flaw wouldn't have affected so many servers, so perhaps this "flaw" isn't valid :p

[Yrkoon]

fixed it btw i see what u mean about the speed microsoft would make u wait a week while they tossed a bone to us :P

[Female Ryuichi]

Just fixed it. Actually easier than any Mircosoft patch I have tried to install.

*is now converted to the greatness of tabbed browsing*

[TasteyPies]

Good thing i dont have firefox I guess

[DMKA]

Yes, yes it is TP.

EDIT: TP...heh.