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[Agent Proto]

Alright, anyone interested in joining the yearly seasons of Fantasy Football for the EoFF league? Well, if you are, please sign up! I will be this year's Commissioner, and the playing is similar to that of last year. Any info on this year's fantasy football will be the following.

League Name: EoFF League
Password: (Sign Up first, then I'll provide)
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Mon Aug 16 4:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 15
Scoring Type: Points Only
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Completions (.5)
Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-3)
Sacks (-1)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (10 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-3)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (2)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (5)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (7)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (10)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-5)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (-3)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (3)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Return Yards (10 yards per point)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (30)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (21)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (12)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (6)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-3)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-6)

Any questions please ask. IF you want to sign up, please say so if you are interested. :D

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

I AM INTERESTED IN WINNING

[Strider]

I was one move away from the title last year. Let's do it up again!

[The Captain]

Already?! Wow, I'm game. This is a draft I will be there for!

Take care all.

[Kirobaito]

I'll think about it. I've never really been one for fantasy sports, though.

[Strider]

C'mon, Texas boy. Show us what you've got!

[muchacho]

since ive never done a fantasy league, and i love football, im interested.

[m4tt]

Sure, why not.

*sticky*

[Del Murder]

Fool this is helluv early.

Two tight ends? 10 points for a fifty yard field goal? 30 for a defenseive shutout? Hmm.

[Agent Proto]

Fool this is helluv early.

Two tight ends? 10 points for a fifty yard field goal? 30 for a defenseive shutout? Hmm.

xD If you suggest a different scoring method, please by all mean suggest something. I was just messing around. And I agree it's helluv early, but that means all the time to prepare.

[eestlinc]

too many players on the team. some interesting scoring. then again, I set the scoring last year and I won, so I suppose it's only fair someone else get to do that. I'll join, of course.

it's not head to head?

[Del Murder]

With all this time perhaps we can make the perfect league (ie the one where I win :)). I think we should use this topic to see what type of scoring people want. Here are my thoughts:

1. We should do head-to-head again.

2. Defeses were scored too highly last year.

3. 10 points for a filed goal is waaay too much. I like how it was last year: 3 points for all field goals except 50+, which were four points. Plus I think we were deducted for FG misses, also good, but I think misses from 50+ yards should not count against us (the scenario I'm thinking of is where the team just puts one up there to end a half kind of like the shot from half court to end a basketball quarter).

4. I can barely think of ten fantasy worthy tight ends, let alone 20!

5. Too many bench spots, though I do like having four receivers. It allows you to play some of the more unheralded guys.

[White Raven]

Go Argonauts!!! :p

Count me in.

[eestlinc]

last year we did all field goals worth three except 50+ were worth four. All FG misses were -1.

[Del Murder]

I like that because it rewarded kickers for being accurate and having a strong leg, but it won't allow them to be a superstar, which they shouldn't be. 50+ misses should not be counted, however.

[eestlinc]

as long as the scoring favors Priest Holmes and everyone else is too stupid to draft him, I'll be ok.

[Agent Proto]

How's this?
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Completions (.5)
Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-3)
Sacks (-1)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (10 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-3)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (3)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (4)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (-1)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (3)
Fumble Recovery (3)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Return Yards (10 yards per point)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (20)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (12)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (6)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (3)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-3)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-10)
Fractional Points: No
Negative Points: Yes

[eestlinc]

i think there should be a bigger penalty for giving up over 30 points, but looks good.

[m4tt]

Anyone interested in having a second league kinda like the second baseball league? Where we only pick players from one team?

[The Captain]

That could have potential as well. Should Spuuky be the Arizona Cardinals?

Take care all.

[Agent Proto]

Ok, if anyone is interested in joining.. I'll just supply the necessary info.

Log on to Yahoo!FantasySports, and join in a custom league.

League ID#: 27286
League Name: EoFF League
Password: redsexylingerie

[Del Murder]

Is it head to head?

[Agent Proto]

Yes

[Del Murder]

8 team playoff seems a little excessive. I don't like tha idea that someone can play crappy all year and then get hot at the end and win the damn thing. Losing records should not make the playoffs.

[Jalbrean]

If there's still room i'm game for playing. =)

[Del Murder]

Proto fix the max teams so we have an even number.

[eestlinc]

let's have 16 teams so we play each other team once, the two weeks of playoffs for the top 4.

[Del Murder]

16 is an awful lot, but if that many people want to play.

I like last year that we had 'divisions' even though I happened to play the first and second placed teams twice. =/

[eestlinc]

can you imagine if we had 16 teams and two TE per team? heh.

[The Captain]

Is there any possible way to make it 6 playoff teams? Perhaps the top two seeds get byes through the first round?

That would seem fair.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

I like that idea too. I thing it has to depend on how many people sign up, first.

[Kirobaito]

I've decided that I'll pass. I won't possibly have enough time to do it once school starts. I'll probably not even have enough time for the internet at all, what with marching band every day and 4 AP classes. Plus I'll be at school when the draft occurs. >.<

[eestlinc]

i don't think a free league lets us customize to that level, having six playoff teams. a playoff bye would be nice, though, since obviously I'll be getting one.

[The Captain]

That's quite a shame Kirobaito!

In reality, for a fantasy team, all you really need is 15 minutes to set things up properly once the season gets under way. Also, seeing as its football, you'd probably only need to update once or twice a week.

Still, I see where you're coming from, having been through marching band for 4 years and AP classes for 2, way back when in my high school days. I'd warrant that fantasy sports could be a nice way to unwind after long days of rehearsal, competitions, and studying.

Remember, you've got more than a month to decide anyway!

Just as a side note, in light of recent events, I'd like to say that sports, while great as entertainment and as a release from the anxiety of everyday life, are not everything and it's so very important to realize how precious life itself is.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Well said as always, Cap.

[CloudDragon]

If I don't get in this year, I'll go nuts on someone.

[Agent Proto]

To have divisions, the league will have to be upgraded to PLUS, and that costs money. I'd upgrade but I don't have the money to spend.

[eestlinc]

it's not worth paying to do it. :)

[RSL]

Oh crap is it too late to sign up? I didn't notice this thread. I had so much fun last time.

If it's not too late, count me in. If it is too late, kick someone out.

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't read the whole thread. Signed up as the Banana Peppers.

[Agent Proto]

If we don't reach 16 teams as originally planned by next month: August 15. I will close the registration for the league and possibly have playoffs to four teams.

[Del Murder]

16 is too many anyway. I don't want to have crap players.

[Relena Peacecraft]

I see how it is. Let's all screw Aexo out of fantasy football. Afraid I'll provide comprehensive playoff scenarios again? Huh? Actually reached 16 teams? If so, I can imagine how fun that league will be. *_*;;

[Del Murder]

Maybe we can make it 12. Isn't that how it was last year? I'd hate to lose someone like Aexo because his team had a good year last year.

[Agent Proto]

>< ok. Limit's changed to 12.

[CloudDragon]

12 sounds good, but didn't you have 10 last year?

[Relena Peacecraft]

Nah, we had 12. See the page for one of the playoff scenarios for the old team list.

http://www.aexoden.com/files/eoffleague.html

[eestlinc]

hopefully you'll participate more than in baseball.

[Del Murder]

He should. Seattle at least has a decent football team. We should have our 12 now, assuming Spuuky stumbles in and signs up one of these days.

[Relena Peacecraft]

Football I have to deal with once a week. Combine that with the fact that I like football far more than baseball, not to mention the fact that the Mariners suck, there shouldn't be a problem. :p

[Colonel Kirby]

Still room to join?

[eestlinc]

I think Spuuky just took the last spot, but it would be nice to have you. Not my decision, though.

[Agent Proto]

Does anyone remember the standings from last year?

[RSL]

Um, I remember that I was 6th.

[eestlinc]

I won, Rocko came in 2nd, Del and Strider were 3 and 4, but I'm not sure in which order.

[Agent Proto]

Possible Draft order.

1. Team Discovery Chan.
2. Banana Peppers
3. Green Dragons
4. The ProtoStars
5. Cosmic Horror
6. The Burning Legion
7. 2 Minute Drillers
8. The Kleptomaniacs
9. Valley Fever
10. Oakland Enforcers
11. Kong's Donkeys
12. Leif Eriksons

[eestlinc]

maybe Priest Holmes will drop to 12th. More likely he will just get hurt this year and suck.

[m4tt]

Bah, always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

[CloudDragon]

I like that draft order :D

[Colonel Kirby]

So the 12's already in? Weak. You people need to announce these kinds of things in chat.

[Del Murder]

We're going to set up a second league, so we'll be sure to let you know about that one when it's set up. :)

Draft order should be random and not based on how well your team did last year. If this was a keeper league I would see how that would work, but we start from scratch every year and should not be penalized in the draft for being a good manager.

[Agent Proto]

Ok, I'll increase the number of teams to 14 seeing David wants to join. :)

[Colonel Kirby]

Such a good lad.

[RSL]

Hopefully we get a 14th person so there aren't any bye weeks. I hate bye weeks.

[Agent Proto]

Someone should ask Rocko.

[Del Murder]

14? Damn.

[CloudDragon]

They way I see it Del is that it still works. Being that you were a good manager, with lower draft picks and not getting the best players, you have to work a bit more to still stay on top. If you are a good manager that shouldn't be a problem, and you should still end up on top, see?

[Del Murder]

The problem I have is that I will never be able to get a first pick under this system. I don't mind having pick 10 or 12 or whatever, I just want a chance to get a guy like Holmes or Tomlinson and not have to pick Terrell Owens every time.

I will be in the top 5 teams regardless of my draft position. The reverse order every round negates most of the significance of the original order. Which is why it should be random.

Also, I got fourth last year.

[Colonel Kirby]

Looks like it's already been set to random. Or you could just save yourself the worry and pick anyone from the Chargers who isn't a running back since they'll be avoided like the plague.

[m4tt]

2nd league is up:

League ID# is 172538
Password is: ilovescotch

The rules of this league is you can only have players from one team. 4 people have signed up so far, so that's four teams that are taken (Chargers, Seahawks, Lions and Redskins). I haven't set up the point system yet, because I want some help on that from one of the smarter fantasy players (eest or del please? ;) )The max teams is 12 so far.

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

:cool:

[eestlinc]

i'll take the 14th pick and still win. hopefully.

I'll think about the scoring for the second league.

[Agent Proto]

Mr. Rocko may drop out because he may not be able to make the draft. So in the case he does decide to drop out, we need to find a replacement. Anyone interested?

EDIT: Ok, it seems that he may be able to make it. I postponed the draft to 9:30 PM EST. Hopefully, that'll be no problem for anyone.

[eestlinc]

I'll be sure to put Ricky Williams at the top of my prerankings.

[RSL]

Make it a Thurday or something. Or Wednesday or Tuesday or Monday or Sunday. But Friday sucks.

[muchacho]

im kinda confused, so now we just pick from one team? but im still in

[m4tt]

im kinda confused, so now we just pick from one team? but im still in

That's just for the 2nd league. You just represent one team.

We have a 2nd league like this for fantasy baseball. I have the Padres, Murder has the A's, Strider has the Giants and so on. It's just a fun thing to see what team is better from a fantasy aspect.

[Del Murder]

The 'not Yankees' rule should have been the 'no Cardinals' rule.

Anyway, in the Eyes on Final Fantasy football league you may pick any player, especially Ricky Williams.

[RSL]

I'm gonna win it all with the Lions

[m4tt]

The 'not Yankees' rule should have been the 'no Cardinals' rule.

Anyway, in the Eyes on Final Fantasy football league you may pick any player, especially Ricky Williams.

Yeah cause the Cardinals are the real powerhouse in the NFL. :eek:

[Del Murder]

I wonder which Cardinals would win in a football game. I bet Woody Williams can throw a mean spiral.

[The Captain]

The way the boys from St. Louie are playing, I wouldn't put it past them that they could beat a lot of the football teams out there.

Take care all.

[muchacho]

hey in the 2nd league i call the eagles.

[Denmark]

if that 14th spot's still open, I'd like to have it.

[m4tt]

I think the main league is full. But the 2nd league still has room for one more team since muchacho hasn't signed up. <<

[The Captain]

I'm interested in league 2, but haven't gotten any info for it.

EDIT: Didn't see that it had been posted. Time to join!

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Uh, technically the second league can have up to 32 teams if others still want to join. Unless 4 only wants 10 for a reason.

[The Captain]

When I drafted Curtis Martin I was hoping he'd put up close to a 1000 yards with a few TD's. Needless to say, I'm very pleased with how he's looked thus far.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

When you drafted Curtis Martin, I kicked myself because I wanted him so bad. Martin and McAllister, all year, Martin and McAllister, that's all I wanted. And I missed them both by a total of THREE picks.

Hold onto him, cause you know, if I want him, he must be good. :cool:

[eestlinc]

well, one of the players i wanted was Charles Rogers, so I'm pretty happy I missed out on drafting him. I got most of the players I really wanted, though, so I feel good.

[muchacho]

i was a little tied up in PLAYING football. when did you draft? was it august 11th at 4 or something like that? yeah, i was at pratice. so i couldnt draft. oh well, maybe next year :rolleyes2

[Agent Proto]

I need a good receiver. ;_; I have none at all. Well, maybe Bennet, but that's it. :cry:

[Del Murder]

You also need a RB for week 3. With McAllister hurt you should take a look at his backup.

[The Captain]

Figures, when Pollard goes to the bench, he finally gets into the action. Still, let's see what Smith can do.

Great week everyone.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Indy TEs are a gamble because you never know which one will have the big day. I have Freddy Jones and he's a good option. Which week is Miami's bye? That's likely the only one I'll play him in. You can have him afterwards if you want.

[escobert]

is it too late to join?

[Del Murder]

Heh, yeah, sorry.

[nik0tine]

What are these fantasy sports that everyone speaks of around here?

[Del Murder]

In fantasy sports a bunch of people get together and draft teams of real players from that sport. Then they get points based on how those players do in the games. You can trade and pick up/drop players as well. It's really fun if you are a fan of the sport.

[The Captain]

LJ Smith appears to finally be coming into his own as he has a TD in the first two games thus far so I think my TE situation is settled. Thanks for the offer though Del. Always looking out for others, what a guy!

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Yeah, and just my luck after I recommend Stecker to Proto I find out I have two injured RBs. :(

[The Captain]

Well sir, don't lose heart yet. If football season can teach you one thing, it's to expect the unexpected. Some RB will burst out of nowhere and have a solid year, the key is all in finding him. You've more than succeeded in doing that in baseball, so I have little to no doubt you'll find a way.

The real challenges are coming, as bye weeks wreck havoc on our rosters.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Yeah, I have the Dallas-Minnesota bye coming up soon and I'm not sure I can carry most of my current roster and still be competitive against Spuuky. But I can't think about that right now. Maybe I can trade for a backup someone has stashed away. James likely won't miss more than a week.

I think it's been proven that I'll always find a way. :)

I am anticipating your match with Stider next week as much as I am anticipating my own. Hopefully it will be a slugfest.

[eestlinc]

Hopefully my team will have hit its stride before I meet you guys down the road.

[Strider]

Goodness. What a week so far.

[Del Murder]

Factoid: Last year I was second in total points and first in opponents' total points.

I found the old spreadsheet. Here are the stats from last year.

Total Points:
the Bruckners - 1602
Oakland Enforcers - 1485
The Burning Legion - 1391
Banana Peppers - 1382
Team Discovery Chan. - 1372
Rainbow Warriors - 1351
The Captains Crew 2 - 1335
Livingston Gizzards - 1309
Dancing Moogles - 1304
The Blood Elfs - 1206
Feargus - 1194
Flying Mullets - 1141

Total opponenets points:
Oakland Enforcers - 1547
Team Discovery Chan. - 1544
Dancing Moogles - 1449
The Captains Crew 2 - 1400
Banana Peppers - 1334
The Blood Elfs - 1321
Flying Mullets - 1286
Feargus - 1282
the Bruckners - 1274
Rainbow Warriors - 1242
Livingston Gizzards - 1222
The Burning Legion - 1171

So I actually had a winning record though my opponenets scored more than I did. After me and Spiff, no one's schedule came even close to that difficulty. The point I'm trying to make here is that it is happening all over again. On Tuesday I will give you the updated stats from this year.

[Strider]

Hmm. Judging from the spreadsheet, I went through a lot of low-scoring affairs last year... So much for that this year!

Would you say it matters, though, that the scoring in this league is different than the one from last year?

[Del Murder]

Would you say it matters, though, that the scoring in this league is different than the one from last year?
Very much so. I haven't compiled the averages yet but just by looking I can see that the scoring is much higher this year.

EDIT: Last year's avereage was 89.29. After two weeks this year's average is 109.05. So you can already tell.

An interesting thing to look at is the variance of each teams scores, measured by standard deviation. Rocko's team didn't score many total points, but his variance was one of the very lowest, meaning he didn't srtay much from his average from week to week. That is one of the main reasons he went to the championship game, while others, like you and myself, fell short. I'll be sure to post those numbers sometime, because it is all very interesting.

[eestlinc]

Scoring is much higher this year due to completions and no penalty for missed FG. Plus, we have an extra WR this year. I think the scoring this year favors QBs and WRs too much, but then again, that's where the NFL is headed.

[Del Murder]

I agree that QBs get too much but I like extra points for WRs, they need them to stay competitive with the backs.

For some reason I can't upload Excel files to show you guys the stat data from last year. Is there an wasy way to convert Excel into an HTML table or something I can upload?

[Del Murder]

For those of you interested here are the numbers from last year and through week 4 of this year. Notice the correlation between standard deviation (which measures variance around the mean, or average) and teams that did well. The most obvious case being Rainbow Warriors. His average score wasn't too impressive but the low std dev. indicated that he was right around that average every week, putting him in every game.

Notice this year who is in first after week 4 (me) and how low my standard deviation is (7). Consistency is the key to winning in this head to head format. Four weeks isn't enough to get a good read on it though.

[Colonel Kirby]

It's been quite the rough season for me. My best player thus far is Brian Westbrook and he only has 60 points. I blame it all on the enigma that is Michael Vick(tied with Tim Rattay with 54.5 fantasy points). His team is 4-0 and yet he has pathetic fantasy points. And the Deion Branch situation is bothering the hell out of me. Either he has a broken toe or he got shot in the head. If Billicheck waits for week 10 to put him on IR or something, I'll kill. Meanwhile, I've gone against Brady, McNabb, Hassleback, and Leftwich all in their best weeks so far. I'm getting outscored by an average of 43 points per game. I'm the only owner without a player on the can't cut list. No luck.

[RSL]

My number one pick, Clinton Portis is stinking up the field right now. His first carry this year was pretty nice, but it has been downhill since.

2-2 while I was without a computer isn't bad, though.

[Del Murder]

I hope benching Brooks and Campbell doesn't come back to haunt me.

[Agent Proto]

ah crap. I said I had bad WRs, now I have bad RBs. ;(

[eestlinc]

getting zero points from either RB and still winning is amazing. Driver has been quite good for you, though.

[Agent Proto]

that is true.

[Del Murder]

Let's see how the week goes. If Moss looks like he won't play I can give you Hoover or Morris for a receiver. Neither of which are great but it is better than the options you have now. Even if dandy Randy does suit up I could use a good defense, which you have two of. I'd say that is your best bargaining chip right now so use it wisely, and don't feel pressured to accept every trade that comes your way.

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

I need non-injured players, stat.

And a quarterback who doesn't suck.

[eestlinc]

I need Tomlinson to be Tomlinson.

[Del Murder]

Here's the stats through week 9 if you guys are interested.

[eestlinc]

you know your averages are a bit high since we have 14 teams this year rather than 12.

and how in god's name do you get a team score of 29?

[RSL]

What program do you need to view that? (I know this is a week after the fact.)

[m4tt]

You need excel. I couldn't view it from home since I don't have excel.

[Del Murder]

If there is an easy way to turn Excel spreadsheets into HTML tables I'd like to here it. Otherwise you'd need MS Office to view it since I don't feel like typing all that out. Maybe at the end.

[Colonel Kirby]

All MS Office applications save to html. File->Save as->Selection:Sheet->Save as .html

[eestlinc]

Well, if I can hold 4th place, we'll me again in week 16, Del.

[Del Murder]

Barring some disaster like Manning out for season, ProtoStars should waltz into second. He has tough games in Cap and Strider left, but Manning should be able to win at least one of those. I don't have much faith in Kelpto, his team is sporadic and he just seems to get lucky. But other than RSL he has some easy opponents left. He's the wild card. RSL has it worst of all. He still has me, you, and 4, and I don't think he'll get 2 of those three, leaving him with 7 losses and out of the running.

Cap, Fresno, and Spiff all have good points and they will play spoiler for the top teams. Cap is on a win streak and might get fourth. In fact, I'm betting on it.

Final standings prediction:

1. Oakland Enforcers
2. The ProtoStars
3. Leif Eriksons
4. 2 Minute Drillers

The key will be points. If you or Cap can tie 4's record, you'll have the points advantage and get the spots. This is what I think will happen.

If you make it to the playoffs you are in great shape with the Chargers playing Indianapolis and KC in the last two weeks, with possible playoff berths on the line. I don't know what I'd do if you ended up pulling this off again...

[The Captain]

I think finally something might be going my way as I've lost two games by less than 3 points and now have finally won one by 3.

If Martin or Green can stay healthy, I think I can at least play spoiler for the playoffs. As for getting in there myself, that's too far ahead for me. I'm going to try and take it week by week, and just continue trying to play matchups. I never would have imagined I'd be able to pull this week out after both Martin and Green got injured.

Take care all.

[Strider]

My own teams is giving me fits.

How wonderful is that?

[m4tt]

I like that you don't have faith in me. This is just the year that I get to prove you wrong all the time.

[Del Murder]

Oh, don't worry about it. I don't have faith in any of you. And I'm always wrong.

[eestlinc]

Well, I finally feel 100% happy with the makeup of my team. My receivers were my weakness all year, but I think I've fixed that up. So I fully expect to win every week left, through 17.

[Colonel Kirby]

And here I am at 1-10 and I just outran the Manning machine and my team is now putting up numbers better than the top teams on a steady basis. This is quite weak.

[Strider]

Isn't fantasy football great?

[RSL]

I guess it's time to start hoping I can get in the loser bracket.

[Colonel Kirby]

Shouldn't be a problem. That's where most Lions fans go.

[Strider]

I don't see you clinching any division titles.

[Colonel Kirby]

I don't see yo...Alright, so you're good enough to play on the Niners right now.

[eestlinc]

it's all about consistency, and also all about fixing the problems on your team in the first four weeks, not the first 10 weeks.

[Agent Proto]

Yeah, I was able to do that and I was kinda lucky to have played poor teams during The Streak, which started on beating Del. >=D

Though, now I'm having some trouble with my RBs. eest, you offered some of your RBs to everyone, and I don't know which player I want to give away that won't hurt me or your chances of winning in the future games. ;)

[RSL]

Proto, I'll give you A. Moorehead for P. Manning.

[Agent Proto]

Are you being serious?

[RSL]

I'm always serious.

[Agent Proto]

Well, too bad for me. You already dumped Moorehead.

[RSL]

I only picked him up as a joke for Del Murder that he didn't get.

But now I have an empty spot on my roster and no one worth picking up.

[Del Murder]

I didn't know you had such a dirty mind, Riz.

[CloudDragon]

You must all hate me. :)

[m4tt]

You must all hate me. :)
Why? Cause we make sure we have a spot for you and you don't even participate? :aimmad:

You're like the 49er's. Most teams mark you as a win on their schedules.

[Strider]

Hey now.

[m4tt]

Hey now.
What? They ARE the worst team in the league. :p Although David's team is also the worst team, so one of them can be the Dolphins.

[Strider]

Tell that to the Arizona Cardinals!

[Del Murder]

CD shows up now because he knows I am the only opponent worth facing. Kind of like when the Bulls came to town back in the Jordan days.

[eestlinc]

Watch him beat you, too. He has Kerry Collins.

[Del Murder]

No Curry + no Wheatley + at Atlanta = poor Kerry :(

[Strider]

What about Doug Gabriel?

*crickets*

[Del Murder]

What about every niners player? :mad2:

[Strider]

My boys brought home a W. Can't argue with that.

My fantasy team on the other hand... well, nothing is certain until tomorrow night, but I'm hanging on by a thread after takin' a beating from Jeff.

[Del Murder]

I need you to beat Proto. I don't want to face eest in the first round. Or Proto. Well, I could probably handle him.

[eestlinc]

Unless Matt or Proto loses next week, looks like it's you and me rematching in week 16. I managed to pull out a tough one this week, it appears.

[Strider]

Well, I owe Clinton Portis a thank you once more. Man, I love that guy.

[Agent Proto]

There's still MNF. You may have two players left to play, I have Bennett. You can deny last week's performance. Though, I don't think he'll repeat that success this week, but he may be able to surprise me like he did last week.

Anyway, I look forward to the results.

[Strider]

I sincerely hope you're not surprised, Jeff. Really. Bennett is pretty good.

[Del Murder]

Um, maybe I wouldn't be able to handle Proto's team. I guess I'll see which poison is picked for me next week. :eek:

[eestlinc]

well, if 4 loses, and Proto and I both win, then you get 4. Otherwise you get me, probably. Unless I score a lot this week.

[Del Murder]

4 is on a 4 game winning streak. I don't want to play any of you. Can't we just declare me the winner? I am the best, you know.

[eestlinc]

4 and Proto are the hot teams. right now, at least. I'm experimenting this week since I'm in regardless and I should be able to beat Aex anyway.

[m4tt]

I'm getting nervous. I've never been in the eoff play offs before. :p

My public league is in the playoffs already this week. I'm the number 1 seed!

[eestlinc]

i'm kinda worried about...well I'll keep it to myself.

[Del Murder]

Oooh secrets.

4, you have been very impressive in both baseball and football this year.

[m4tt]

Oooh secrets.

4, you have been very impressive in both baseball and football this year.
I think it's cause san diego sports have been doing better this year, so I am doing better as well!

[Agent Proto]

So, out of the players from last year, who's improved, who's playing the same, and who got worse?

[Del Murder]

You mean of us or of the NFL players?

[Agent Proto]

Us!

[RSL]

I'm about the same. Last year I was 8-8-1 counting the consolation playoffs. This year I am 7-7.

[Del Murder]

Spuuky did better this year.

[m4tt]

I'm a lot better.

[Strider]

This season was such a letdown, especially considering that I was essentially one move away from the title last year. And oh yeah, the fact that I've scored more points than anyone and might be an integral part of Jason's Toilet Bowl tournament.

How depressing.

[m4tt]

Blah, really bad week for me. Top seed in my public league and I lost to the 4th seed by 30 points. 8 game winning streak ended.

Then David beats me up in the eoff league. Atleast that wasn't the playoffs yet. 4 game winning streak ended.

[Del Murder]

Well this would be the best time to start a new streak!

Poor Strider. Poor, poor Strider...

[RSL]

Yeah, poor guy. I've never seen such bad luck.

[m4tt]

Well this would be the best time to start a new streak!

Poor Strider. Poor, poor Strider...
Okay, I'll start by beating you this week. :)

[Del Murder]

No!

[eestlinc]

I'm not quite as dominant as I was last year, but the result may well still be the title.

[Del Murder]

I'm glad I'm not a part of that shootout. I'm still learning. This year I tried to build a team that is consistent, and I did that. I also happened to have the most total points. Let's see how far those will take me.

I sat around brooding over Larry Johnson all morning and finally caved and put him in. I wonder if I had been around doing that over Plummer that it would have been the same result. We'll never know. Brooks better drop at least a 20 for me to have a shot. If I can keep Duece out of the end zone and limit Gates to one TD (fat chance) then I will win. Otherwise, I might win. At least I know next week I will either face my long time rival or get my sweet revenge over Manning.

[m4tt]

Half of your team has already played, and all of my team plays tomorrow and monday. I'm nervous. :p

[Agent Proto]

At least I know next week I will either face my long time rival or get my sweet revenge over Manning.

Well, you can't have your sweet revenge over Manning, as Manning was on bye on the week of your first loss. :D

[Del Murder]

Well, you can't have your sweet revenge over Manning, as Manning was on bye on the week of your first loss. :D
Manning stunk it up for me last year in weeks 16 & 17, causing me two playoff losses.

That Colts-Chargers game will be a big one for our playoff games! Tiki might have the better chance for an explosive game, but I can't resist playing the Edge here. That would put 6 key players from our four teams in this one!

[Strider]

Next year, I'll draft better running backs.

[RSL]

Next year, I don't know what I'm going to do. Right now it seems obvious who to draft, but at the beginning of the year, who knows?

[eestlinc]

I am very happy with my choice of Tomlinson at #2 overall. I am also happy to claim the single game points record for the year. I don't know if all my players will actually play next week, but I have some great matchups.

[RSL]

I don't know if all my players will actually play next week

I think we should go with 16 week schedule like most leagues to avoid such problems.

[Del Murder]

I agree with Riz on that, even though it's more fun when we play every week. Most leagues do it the way he suggested.

I have never before seen a team with such great matchups in consecutive weeks as eest has here. In the playoffs, no less. I purposely drafted a team with players on different teams (kickers don't count) to further my quest for the most consistent team. I succeeded, but consistency doesn't work as well in the short run. If San Diego or New England faced Baltimore or the Bills or something then he'd be screwed, but no, it had to be the Chiefs and San Franfreakingcisco. Both home games, no less.

Enough about that, though. I still need to keep McNabb quiet before this potential blockbuster of a championship match is even on the card yet.

[eestlinc]

it's just an added challenge. I'm not so worried though. I got Kevin Jones for this specific situation, although I doubt I'll need him.

Anyway, if my players face weak teams this week, it probably means I faced tougher teams earlier. Chargers-Chiefs is intradivision so it makes perfect sense. Pats-Niners is a bit of a lucky draw though, but you think I didn't know that game was there when I got Dillon and Branch? Considering how the Pats lit up the Jets (loving it!) I don't think it really matters who they face.

[Del Murder]

Yeah, a week 17 final proves how good you really are, since you'll need to spot quality backups.


but you think I didn't know that game was there when I got Dillon and Branch?
Don't insult me.

[eestlinc]

of course Leftwich getting concussed this week doesn't help things. Wouldn't it be ironic if I used Vick to win the title?

[Del Murder]

Rivers is playing next week?

[eestlinc]

I certainly hope not, but it's not like the Chargers have much to play for. I guess the pleasure of crushing the Chiefs is enough. And LT needs another consecutive game with a touchdown.

You really couldn't script it better than this. Teams my players face in week 17:

Chiefs (QB, RB, K)
Cardinals (WR x 2)
Browns (WR)
Niners (WR, RB, DEF)
Chargers (TE)

and if I need some backups:

Redskins (WR x 2)
Titans (RB)
Seahawks (QB)

[Del Murder]

I think the Chargers will try to get as many wins as they can to rub it in everyone's faces. I wouldn't expect LT to play the whole game, but a half at home vs. KC is better than a whole game at Baltimore.

[eestlinc]

even the home/road matchups with weather favor me. The only game I have in a northern locale is in Foxboro, and cold means more Dillon.

[RSL]

Is Vick even going to play?

[Del Murder]

Oh yeah? Well you can kiss my foxboro.

[eestlinc]

Vick will play this coming week, but probbaly not that much.

The championship is set, and a shocking matchup to be sure.

[Del Murder]

Yay for meaningless week 17!

Well, at least the Bills, Broncos, and Vikes all have something to play for.

[eestlinc]

At least New England can't bench their defense.

[Del Murder]

Here are some things I made. The first is the completed stats for the fantasy season. The playoff teams are highlighted in blue. Compare your stats with where you ended up and see what you need to improve on next year.

The second and third attachments are a more in-depth analysis I did for the championship game between eestlinc and myself. I ran the numbers for each of our players and extrapolated their week 17 score based on season average, last four week average, opponent's average given to their position (measured by % of offense they consist of), opponent's average over the last four weeks, and average based on home/away status. I used a variety of different ways to get their projected score based on those things (the last five columns of the Reg17 sheet), then averaged those scores to get 'The Score'. As you can see my analysis has eest favored by 6 points. Let's see what happens Sunday!

I am very proud of this project. It likely won't tell much about the upcoming games, but to freely manipulate these numbers and create such fluidity of the data is closer to my idea of art than any drawing or song parody I have ever made. Enjoy, and good luck champ.

(if either of us changes our final lineups I will adjust the scores and reattach, since there is still a day left)

[eestlinc]

This is the game I've been waiting for all season. Your team is consistent, and mine is potentially dominating. We shall see which approach comes out on top.

[Del Murder]

At least it's safe to say I won't see any 200 point outing out of you.

I want to win badly, but I am satisfied to know that the Eyeson fantasy championships continue to stay within the two of us.

[eestlinc]

you never know. I might have another 200 point game. 150 would be acceptible, though

[Agent Proto]

Next season, everyone's agreeing that the championship be played on Week 16?

[The Captain]

Sounds good.

Take care all.

[m4tt]

Yeah sure.

[RSL]

Yes definitely.

And dammit, I don't have excel or whatever it is so I can't see those things....

[The Captain]

Postseason Prediction Time!

Vikings - Packers
Rams - Seahawks
Jets - Chargers
Broncos - Colts


I like the Pack, Rams, Bolts and Colts to advance because in the three home teams cases, they are superior to their competition.

The only way the Viks win is if Favre has a bad game which I don't see happening and if the Viks actually show some heart in a big game. As for the Jets, Curtis Martin is a Hall of Famer hands down, but Pennington isn't right and the Chargers might be the most complete of the wild card teams, so I don't see the Chargers losing here. Finally, the Colts will win this game because the Broncos think they have a shot, and in reality, they can't stop Peyton Manning, heck, they had a tough time stopping Jim Sorgi early on, so I forsee a repeat of last year, though the score may be a bit closer.

Now, for the mild upset. The Rams are on a high right now and Bulger, Holt and Bruce are clicking while the Seahawks are a mess. Alexander exposed his ego and I think this will seriously hurt any chances they have, plus the Rams just seem to have their number.

Take care all.

[RSL]

I predict the exact same! I kind of like the Rams for some reason. I guess I became attached to them this year with Bulger as my QB. I think they will beat Seattle fairly easily.

Packers/Vikings are my two least favorite teams. I predict the Packers to win but I can't cheer for either one.

Colts/Broncos. I just can't see the Colts losing to them when they play their best guys.

Chargers/Jets. I don't know much about the jets, but the Chargers are having a season that I could only dream of my favorite team having. I think they keep it going at least one more week.

[m4tt]

Rams >> Seahawks
Packers >> Vikings
Chargers >> Jets (obviously :p)
Colts >> Broncos