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Loony BoB
07-26-2004, 03:04 PM
For the time being, consider this seperate to Proto's idea. I'm yet to have some things confirmed.

If an EoFF world were to be created, would you like to be a leader? You would be the leader of a region with an independent government. If so, please fill out the following with your own details.

Name: Your name, obviously. Screenname, real name, political name, whatever. Preferrably the name that you're most well known as.
Government Type: Dictatorship? Monarchy? Democracy? Something else?
Name of Region: What you would name your region.
Values: The things that you believe in. This can include stuff like religion, happiness, freedom or anarchy.
Against: You can leave this blank if you like, but I figure some people would like to list a few things.
Plans: What you intend on doing once you become leader. Or at least, what you want people to think you intend on doing.
Propoganda: Anything you might want to add to convince people that you're someone they'd like to have as a leader.

Baloki
07-26-2004, 03:16 PM
Propoganda: Anything you might want to add to convince people that you're someone they'd like to have as a leader.

The question is how long have you got on your 56k modem?

sephxangel
07-26-2004, 03:17 PM
Name:Sephx or amanda...either one will do cause i'll respond to both.
Government Type: Magocracy (Rule by the mages. Those capable of wielding magic form an elite group or upper class and control the government.)
Values: Happiness, worship whaterver you choose ( or don't worship; it's your choice)
Against: Lying.
Plans: I plan on making the island Sephxania a nice beautiful island...with beautiful bunglaow houses near the beaches...exotic plants, fruits...

Loony BoB
07-26-2004, 03:20 PM
Added 'Name of Region' field.

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 03:30 PM
Name: Az Lionheart

Government Type: wise summoners shall help us run the government with SeeD who will protect your lands on our journy towards peace. people who wish to join SeeD shall take a test to prove their their reasons to join are true.

Name of Region: Aztopia

Values: Peace, Love, Final Fantasy, Square enx, we shall be multicultural you shall be able to worship who you want.oh yer did i mension....FINAL FANTASY RULZ

Against: people who HATE chocolate...you can dislike it but no hatred for it.

Plans:Use SeeD to bring peace amoung all reigions in EoFF. In my city you shall all be lisened to. to bring FF into everyones home.

propaganda:if you vote for me you get all FF games and a free subscrition to FFXI.

HOOTERS
07-26-2004, 04:02 PM
I'm Bowser :smash:

Name: Bowser
Government Type: run by Bowser
Name of Region: Bowser
Values: crushing things, lava pits, families
Against: democracy, mario, made-for-television movies
Plans: I'm going to sit on everybody
Propoganda: YOU"RE ALL MY BITCHES

Phil
07-26-2004, 05:40 PM
Name: Vincent06 or Phil
Government Type:Monarchy
Name of Region: Vincentland
Values:Gold, silver and thievery!!
Against:taco bell
Plans: to become the ritchest state
Propoganda:Free chinchillas for all

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 05:43 PM
Against: made-for-television movies
:love:

Awrini
07-26-2004, 05:47 PM
Name: Enano or Frank
Government Type: Democracy
Name of Region: Thrice
Values: Guns, Happiness, and War
Against: Peace
Plans: Dominate the world
Propoganda: Free cookies!!!

Rainecloud
07-26-2004, 06:25 PM
Name: Rainecloud.
Government Type: Monarchy.
Name of Region: Elennanórë.
Values: Loyalty, honesty, respect and love (and all those other silly things).
Against: Lack of respect for others, and any sort of pathetic and irresponsible behaviour.
Plans: To share our fine land with the world. And to play Monopoly. Lots of Monopoly.
Propaganda: Elennanórë is a clean, tidy region with law-abiding citizens who don't behave like mindless hooligans. That description should save me from printing lots of leaflets/pamphletts.

Loony BoB
07-26-2004, 06:26 PM
Keep 'em coming, I want as many potential leaders as possible, because you're all gonna vote on each other.

EDIT: Raine, I'm guessing you copied off the second post because I added Name of Region after that. D=

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 06:29 PM
Name: Flying Mullet
Government Type: Dictatorship/Hermit
Name of Region: Mulletopia, a small quiet seculded area where I can stay away from people
Values: Nobody comin' on my property!
Against: People comin' onto my property!
Plans: Keeping people off ah my property!
Propoganda: Keep off ah my property!

Baloki
07-26-2004, 06:42 PM
Name: Baloki Noar, BakaNeko the 2<sup>nd</sup>
Government Type: Ex-Monarchy now running as a Democracy
Ancient times passed with the island of Atlantica completely secluded from all that surrounded it. Much mystery and legend grew up of what Atlantica might be, and who may reside there, with the local population oblivious to the outside world. During this period Atlantica was a full blown monarchy with the Noar family passing the flame of fairness and equality down through the generations. Then one day an outsider of the island found their way here, from then on Atlantica was launched into an international arena dodgely making its way through the fun and games that is international politics. During this time they built up a democratically elected government which became the lead in all international affairs while the Monarchy dealt with all home front affairs.
Name of Region: Atlantica, with the capital of Amphoria
Atlantica is a highly technologically advanced country, although it does have a center of Magical Specialisation, the old arts are considered less important. With an airship dock, and space launch area based in the capital, Amphoria, Atlantica strives to keep abreast and ahead in all but the most mainstream technoligical activities.
Values: As the leader of Atlantica we believe in peace through democratic methods and see war as a last resort, we also believe in freedom of speech, Democracy and a free trade community.
Against: We have signed the international Walrus Treaty which means that we will help keep Walrus numbers up and Avril numbers down, we also have not one Mcdonalds resturant in our fair island.
Plans: I don't want to become world leader, I'm content with my own island.
Flag:

http://www.merchantsofdoom.com/~baloki/atlantica_flag.gif

escobert
07-26-2004, 06:50 PM
Name: Bert
Government Type: Monarchy
Name of Region: New Bertland
Values: Freedom, the right to bear arms :p and all that good stuff.
Against:
Plans: Ummm.. I dunno look at pr0n?
Propoganda: blah

gokufusionss1
07-26-2004, 06:53 PM
vote for bowser or he'll crush you
http://www.mariomonsters.com/bowser/Bowser.jpg
Paid for by the commite to allow bowser rule our souls Inc

Jebus
07-26-2004, 07:04 PM
Name: Jebus
Government Type:Representative Democracy
Name of Region: Jebusia
Values: All civil liberties granted to all people of every race/gender/sexual orientation/creed/religion/etc.
Against: Religious fundamentalism, militarism, the death penalty
Plans: Unite the states of EoFF and teach proper English to the newbies.
Propoganda: A vote for Jebus is a vote for more intelligent newbies.

Rye
07-26-2004, 07:04 PM
Name: Rye/Rikkuyuna89/RY89/Jessica

Government Type: Democracy

Name of Region: Ryeville

Values:
1) Freedom to be whatever you wanna be.
2) xD.
3) Anti-racism and Anti-homophobia
4) Freedom to do be able to enjoy kiddy shows and stuffed animals and such, despite being "too old" for it. (Ex: I'll never be to old for Spongebob :<3: )
5) Final Fantasy playing
6) Spoiler tags Like this!
7) Kingdom Hearts. It's really a good game, you know!

Against:
1)XD
2)Avril Lavigne
3)tYpiN lIEk DiS
4)People forcing religion on someone.

Plans:
1):strut: Struting Sock Guys for all.
2)Freedom of xD.
3)A Final Fantasy game in every household.
4)Avril Lavigne to never "sing" again.
5)Fun :<3:

Propoganda: A vote for Rye is a vote for xD, heart smileys, spongebob, and fuzzy cute stuffed animals.

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 07:06 PM
Too many democracies and "happy feeling" government types. :smash:

Where are the dictatorships, iron-hand monarchies and anarchy?

Baloki
07-26-2004, 07:09 PM
Too many democracies and "happy feeling" government types. :smash:

Where are the dictatorships, iron-hand monarchies and anarchy?

;) Face value is over rated ;)

Citizen Bleys
07-26-2004, 07:13 PM
I would run a dictatorship.

Unfortunately, I am not able to share the details of such a dictatorship, because if you knew, you would have to be eliminated.

Phil
07-26-2004, 07:13 PM
I chose a monarchy because I like the king and queen and knight idea with vassals and serfs. Bow befor me serfs!!!!1 :D
We do still need an iron hand government. SOmbody be saddam! Get linus....... he'll do it....

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 07:18 PM
great image but when the time comes....vote for me...plz

Citizen Bleys
07-26-2004, 07:22 PM
When the time comes, you'd better vote for me, or you'll be sorry you didn't. If you live long enough to be sorry.

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 07:23 PM
When the time comes, you'd better vote for me, or you'll be sorry you didn't. If you live long enough to be sorry.
But what if we don't vote for you and you don't come to power?

Phil
07-26-2004, 07:24 PM
all hail bleys :screwy:

Citizen Bleys
07-26-2004, 07:25 PM
If people don't want to do it the easy way, then it will unfortunately be necessary to do things in a rather more...messy...manner. I don't want things to be messy. Do you want things to be messy? Why make things messy when it's so much easier to submit to the inevitable?

gokufusionss1
07-26-2004, 07:26 PM
Name: The Left Hand
Government Type: Monarchy subject to parliment
Name of Region: Limbarnia
Values: Capatilism, justice and civility and left handed can openers
Against: The right hand and giant pandas
Plans: To destroy all things created by the right hand
Propoganda: see attachement.

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 07:27 PM
Well that's why my "kingdom" is an old hermit shack with a bit of land out in the boonies, so that I don't have to deal with peoples and their issues. :chef:

Phil
07-26-2004, 07:33 PM
I cant decide wether to vote for mark or bowser...... :cry:

Erdrick Holmes
07-26-2004, 07:36 PM
Name: Joel Holmes
Government Type: Democracy
Name of Region: Joelonia
Values: Hot women, 2D fighters always outdo 3D ones, and right to own any type of weapons we want
Against: Shaq-Fu, and rap music
Plans: Sponsoring hand to hand martial arts tourneys and money wth the image dipicted on the Joelonian flag
Propoganda: Come on down, we got hot women everywhere.

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 07:48 PM
I cant decide wether to vote for mark or bowser...... :cry:
or mabe me

Jebus
07-26-2004, 07:50 PM
Or maybe me. If I was a leader, the bureaucracy would be so large that nothing would ever get through, and we'd all just sit around and get drunk.

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 07:52 PM
with me you shall be able to become an elite member of SeeD....and eat chocolate. :D

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 08:00 PM
But nobody wants to join seeD.

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 08:02 PM
But nobody wants to join seeD.
:cry:

gokufusionss1
07-26-2004, 08:03 PM
if my leadership bid fails i will be willing to serve bowser as his loyal surf.

Female Ryuichi
07-26-2004, 08:05 PM
Name: Ryu-Ryu
Government Type: Democracy
Name of Region: Kumagoroni
Values: freedom, cleverness, aliens, and amendments that are like the USA's, but not.
Against: idiots, narrow minded people, townies, the ghetto, forcing religion.
Plans: I indent to destroy all ghettos, take over 4 small islands in the pacific ocean, every home to have a copy of 'Gravitation', public worship of Sakuma Ryuichi and Maki Maurkami (If you want), banning the word 'neek', Avril Lavigne and Cher.
Propoganda: Free porn/cookies for all!

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 08:31 PM
Name: Ryu-Ryu
Government Type: Democracy
Name of Region: Kumagoroni
Values: freedom, cleverness, aliens, and amendments that are like the USA's, but not.
Against: idiots, narrow minded people, townies, the ghetto, forcing religion.
Plans: I indent to destroy all ghettos, take over 4 small islands in the pacific ocean, every home to have a copy of 'Gravitation', public worship of Sakuma Ryuichi and Maki Maurkami (If you want), banning the word 'neek', Avril Lavigne and Cher.
Propoganda: Free porn/cookies for all!

if i dont become leader(i know i wont) i will follow until death!!!!!1lol

Female Ryuichi
07-26-2004, 08:38 PM
if i dont become leader(i know i wont) i will follow until death!!!!!1lol

Thank you :D

The Captain
07-26-2004, 08:47 PM
Name: Devin

Government Type: Democracy, though of course, all democracies need checks and balances, so it would a democracy in the style of a Town Meeting whereas any and all can attend all meetings of law making and can have their say, with also a court system and Constitution that has been voted on by all citizens. All elected Presidents would be allowed only one 5 year term and THAT's it.

Name of Region: Serenity

Values: Actually attempting to get all citizens to vote, so that the actual majority will be heard. At the same time however, a free press, one completed uninvolved with any form of government so that the citizens can receive unbaised news and reports. Besides that, a universal healthcare system, a volunteer army used only to defend ones home but never for globalization, colonies, and the like, a fairly open trade market, though somewhat restricted to prevent complete monopolies, a well funded education system, as well as research system to continually push forward progress.

A very progressive tax system hoping to give money from those who have it in abundance to those who might be struggling. At the same time, two very important additions to this system would include: a security system for those who do make money so that they won't have to worry about losing everything they have so long as they pay their taxes into the system, and also a very determined social works committee who will continually push for jobs for those who don't have it, improved living conditions and the like.

As for the taxes themselves, there would NEVER be any sort of shrine or monument building as to me, it is seen as a waste of money and also a way of pushing one's superiority over others. Instead, taxes would be devoted entirely back to the people. Bonuses for bosses of companies and leaders of office would be prohibited because it would be expected that they'd be doing the best they can from the start.

An open debate for the citizens to voice their opinion and allow for actual interaction between everyone. There wouldn't be any classified information unless it is utterly needed, for instance, if there is clear evidence of conspiracy or corruption. If anyone in power is found to have committed perjury of any kind, they must be expected to resign based upon a vote by the citizens.

Finally, freedom of speech, religion, and assembly within reason. Any assembly used to promote hate, a la` the KKK is not tolerated. Guns are outlawed unless needed in times of war. Sports and other outdoor activity is encouraged as well as travel to meet new people and broaden one's horizons. There will be no death penalty, but those who commit acts of murder, genocide, rape and those of harsh nature will be locked away, to watch home movies of the people who's lives they've ruined or ended. If they can prove that they can function as a human being, they may be paroled, but if they are caught attempting another crime of the same nature, they will be locked away forever with no chance at parole.

That being said, cops, doctors, teachers, wardens, firefighters, scientists and the like will make the highest salaries, whilst other occupations such as actors, athletes, singers and the like won't be paid such insanely high amounts for jobs that while, yes are very important, do not effect as many directly.

Against: ultimate authroity by the government, mob rule, hatred, oppression, and lies. Any such act that can be deemed to cause hatred or hurt someone for no reason will be dealt with harshly.

Plans: Attempt to create a society that gives the power into the hands of the individual and the people, and attempt to present them with the best possible situations to make the best choices and decisions.

Propaganda: No need for it, as hopefully each person will believe in themselves and make their choices wisely and justly.

Idealistic I suppose, but it's what I believe in.

Take care all.

gokufusionss1
07-26-2004, 09:00 PM
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Name: Devin

Government Type: Democracy, though of course, all democracies need checks and balances, so it would a democracy in the style of a Town Meeting whereas any and all can attend all meetings of law making and can have their say, with also a court system and Constitution that has been voted on by all citizens. All elected Presidents would be allowed only one 5 year term and THAT's it.

Name of Region: Serenity

Values: Actually attempting to get all citizens to vote, so that the actual majority will be heard. At the same time however, a free press, one completed uninvolved with any form of government so that the citizens can receive unbaised news and reports. Besides that, a universal healthcare system, a volunteer army used only to defend ones home but never for globalization, colonies, and the like, a fairly open trade market, though somewhat restricted to prevent complete monopolies, a well funded education system, as well as research system to continually push forward progress.

A very progressive tax system hoping to give money from those who have it in abundance to those who might be struggling. At the same time, two very important additions to this system would include: a security system for those who do make money so that they won't have to worry about losing everything they have so long as they pay their taxes into the system, and also a very determined social works committee who will continually push for jobs for those who don't have it, improved living conditions and the like.

As for the taxes themselves, there would NEVER be any sort of shrine or monument building as to me, it is seen as a waste of money and also a way of pushing one's superiority over others. Instead, taxes would be devoted entirely back to the people. Bonuses for bosses of companies and leaders of office would be prohibited because it would be expected that they'd be doing the best they can from the start.

An open debate for the citizens to voice their opinion and allow for actual interaction between everyone. There wouldn't be any classified information unless it is utterly needed, for instance, if there is clear evidence of conspiracy or corruption. If anyone in power is found to have committed perjury of any kind, they must be expected to resign based upon a vote by the citizens.

Finally, freedom of speech, religion, and assembly within reason. Any assembly used to promote hate, a la` the KKK is not tolerated. Guns are outlawed unless needed in times of war. Sports and other outdoor activity is encouraged as well as travel to meet new people and broaden one's horizons. There will be no death penalty, but those who commit acts of murder, genocide, rape and those of harsh nature will be locked away, to watch home movies of the people who's lives they've ruined or ended. If they can prove that they can function as a human being, they may be paroled, but if they are caught attempting another crime of the same nature, they will be locked away forever with no chance at parole.

That being said, cops, doctors, teachers, wardens, firefighters, scientists and the like will make the highest salaries, whilst other occupations such as actors, athletes, singers and the like won't be paid such insanely high amounts for jobs that while, yes are very important, do not effect as many directly.

Against: ultimate authroity by the government, mob rule, hatred, oppression, and lies. Any such act that can be deemed to cause hatred or hurt someone for no reason will be dealt with harshly.

Plans: Attempt to create a society that gives the power into the hands of the individual and the people, and attempt to present them with the best possible situations to make the best choices and decisions.

Propaganda: No need for it, as hopefully each person will believe in themselves and make their choices wisely and justly.

Idealistic I suppose, but it's what I believe in.

Take care all.


your too boring to vote for.-->
EDIT BY BoB: No insults, please.




It was only a joke

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 09:02 PM
Serenity values patience and literacy. I like that. :)

Az Lionheart
07-26-2004, 09:02 PM
yep

CloudSquallandZidane
07-26-2004, 09:21 PM
Name: Lop3z La P3sado

Government Type: Capitolistic-Communism

Explianation: You can work if u want to but if you dont want to work, the gov. will provide you with standard government housing. Also there will be 7 different meals handed out per day, except on special occasions like Christmas and what not, then special celebration dinners will be made. Those who work will be entitled to better houses, education, and overall living conditions than those who dont work.

Name of Region: Valhalla

Values: Education, Working, Weapons Technology, Space Technology, and Entertainment. And every1 must serve one of the branches of government for 2 years before they are enttilted to services, free-government programs, and citizenship.

Against: Other countries, abuse of the Freedom of speech bills as defined in the bills, any type of discrimination because of Race, Religion, Sex, or Sexual-Oreintation.

Propaganda: We're just better than every1 else... Thats all there is to it...

Vote wisely.

Plans: To become the spoken Leading country of the EoFF world, eliminate poverty, unsanitary living conditions, and to be the first on the EoFF worlds moon. Also we have the leftover Starwars documents on hand we plan to get it up and running soon.

Awrini
07-26-2004, 09:33 PM
Did i mention the free cookies?

CloudDragon
07-26-2004, 10:03 PM
I'm Jebus's running mate. Vote for us. :D

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 10:35 PM
I've decided to revise my country/leaderhip

Name: Flying Mullet
Government Type: Dictatorship - but a nice kind of dictator
Name of Region: Mulletopia, a small quiet seculded island where people can relax and be at peace
Values: Parties, having a good time, chillin', politeness
Against: Stress, work, impatience, pushy people, rudeness
Plans: Mulltopia would have to ba a small island to work. Mulletopia is a place where the locals like to party and relax and do anything that's related to the ocean and the beach. So a typical day in Mulletopia would be sleeping in, then maybe doing some swimming, scuba diving, boating, whatever, followed by kicking back by the beach with a brew and laughing the evening/night away with good music and good friends. The rules are stiff though. You cause problems with the tranquil, friendly vibe of the island and we'll just throw you to the sharks, literally.
Propoganda: It's all good in Mulletopia. :cool:

Kirobaito
07-26-2004, 10:36 PM
I've decided to revise my country/leaderhip

Name: Flying Mullet
Government Type: Dictatorship - but a nice kind of dictator
Name of Region: Mulletopia, a small quiet seculded island where people can relax and be at peace
Values: Parties, having a good time, chillin', politeness
Against: Stress, work, impatience, pushy people, rudeness
Plans: Mulltopia would have to ba a small island to work. Mulletopia is a place where the locals like to party and relax and do anything that's related to the ocean and the beach. So a typical day in Mulletopia would be sleeping in, then maybe doing some swimming, scuba diving, boating, whatever, followed by kicking back by the beach with a brew and laughing the evening/night away with good music and good friends. The rules are stiff though. You cause problems with the tranquil, friendly vibe of the island and we'll just throw you to the sharks, literally.
Propoganda: It's all good in Mulletopia. :cool:
Does this music include John Denver?

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 10:38 PM
If it's what everyone wants then yes.

escobert
07-26-2004, 10:40 PM
yay!

Kirobaito
07-26-2004, 10:43 PM
It's what I want. To listen to JD play all day long. Does that mean everyone?

Phil
07-26-2004, 10:44 PM
I've decided to vote for AZ Lionheart :D

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 10:52 PM
It's what I want. To listen to JD play all day long. Does that mean everyone?
I don't know. But that's why it's a dictatorship. If there are any squabbles I choose and that's that. :cool:

Kirobaito
07-26-2004, 10:57 PM
Well then, would you choose John Denver?

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 11:02 PM
Good god, why must you torment me? :p

I really can't say until I know what else is being played. *shrugs*

bennator
07-26-2004, 11:17 PM
Name: Bennator
Government Type: Democracy/Republic ...specifics to be worked out later
Name of Region: Ben-Here
Values: Ummm...pretty much no social controls.
Against: Organized religion, moralists
Plans: Nothing, let everyone else do whatever
Propoganda: You don't have a reason not to have "Ben-Here"

Kirobaito
07-26-2004, 11:29 PM
Good god, why must you torment me? :p

I really can't say until I know what else is being played. *shrugs*
OK then, if you had a choice between John Denver and Elton John, would you play John Denver?

Flying Mullet
07-26-2004, 11:34 PM
you bet

Kirobaito
07-26-2004, 11:38 PM
=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D

I'm voting for you now.

*turns on "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" real loud*

Citizen Bleys
07-26-2004, 11:46 PM
I cant decide wether to vote for mark or bowser...... :cry:

You'll vote for me if you know what's good for you.

Also what's good for EoFF. If I win, everybody wins. There'll even be lots of work for the pro-democracy people. That, in turn, will create jobs for my supporters--after all, someone will have to look after all of those internment camps.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 12:01 AM
Of course, there will be a lot more than one leader involved in this ... world... type... thing. :)

Takara
07-27-2004, 12:04 AM
Fine, I'll add my part...

Name: Gaby, or Takara. You choose.
Government Type: Oh, hell, why not. Monarchy.
Name of Region: Gabyland.
Values: Health, education, family, love, cookies, kittens, equality in the sexes, procrastination, bitchslapping, gay marriage, badmouthing Britney Spears, fun stuff, the internet, videogames.
Against: Homophopes, racists, sexists, religious extremists, dramaqueens, sexual offenders, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, college costing way too much, country and rap music, Britnet Spears.
Plans: To make education free for everyone, no matter your age, race, sex, IQ, or sexual orientation. Kitties and cookies for everyone. All females will be taught the very secret martial art of bitchslapping. Sexual offenders will be castrated with a dull plastic knife. Our ultimate goal is to kidnap Britney Spears and torture her to death for torturing us with her lack of talent for all these years.
Propoganda: Bitchslapping is fun! Do it!

Nait
07-27-2004, 12:04 AM
Haha, this brings backs some memories! I have two entries, actually.

<b>Entry #1</b>
<b>Name</b>: Lord Mïchnáidia.
<b>Government Type</b>: Dr. Doom style meritocracy. <_<
<b>Name of Region</b>: The Republican Monarchy of Mïchnáidia, or whatever it was.
<b>Values</b>: Baodan chi-balls, mom's applepie and the extermination of all goody goody superheroes.
<b>Against</b>: The survival of my enemies.
<b>Plans</b>: [your clearance is not high enough for this information - report to the extermination room]
<b>Propoganda</b>: There is no propagana in Mïchnáidia. Except <a href="http://www.zombo.com">ZOMBOCOM</a>, of course.

<b>Entry #2</b>
<b>Name</b>: Archcouncillor Järventaus
<b>Government Type</b>: Limited republican meritocracy / academiarchy.
<b>Name o' Region</b>: Zhem.
<b>Values</b>: The appeasement of all citizens, peace and prosperity, balances between minorities and majorities, the good of the people, the earth and the nation, rehabilitation and preventative policies on social problems. Oh, and education.
<b>Against</b>: Anarchy and authoritarianism, complete disregard of others, in a monkey-scratch kind of way.

<b>Propaganda</b>:
Zhem is losely based on my Shaem, but nevermind that. The nation is borne upon a policy of appeasement - everyone is kept happy, so they don't go nuts and kill everyone. Basically this entails heavy social programs and spending.
The government is an elected council divided into different branches that control certain thingies. Y'know, like diplomacy branch and healthcare branch. The councillors are chosen from a pool of academics and people who know how to do stuff, like doctors or even carpenters or architects. I don't know how they choose who's elligible for election, though. Thinking of that.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 12:05 AM
You'll have to pick one, good Sir Nait.

EDIT: On a sidenote, it always amuses me when people say they are against homophobia. Homophobia isn't always (well, to be technical, it should never be) the hatred of homosexuals but the fear of homosexuals or homosexuality. I'm a self proclaimed homophobe, but I have some good friends who are gay. I just fear homosexuality.

Nait
07-27-2004, 12:07 AM
Zhem, of course. I just though Mïchnáidia could use a bit heads up. *_*

CloudSquallandZidane
07-27-2004, 12:10 AM
Comeon people my Capitolistic-Communism is the greatest idea... I cant beileve people are going with such dated government types as Democracy... pfft. every1 knows democracy doesnt work, there are always places where checks and balances fail.

My idea is full/fool-proof.

</sarcasm>

EDIT: Dang "(/sarcasm)" tag never shows up anymore...

The Captain
07-27-2004, 12:31 AM
Sounds like an interesting concept, but is it wise to put the burden on people who will work, and make them carry people who do not? If folks are allowed to sit back and collect food and meals anyway, what's the incentive for anyone to work at all?

Sure personal advancement could be a just cause, but if you can survive without work, I'd be wary of laziness taking over.

Just a thought. Still, I very interesting idea.

Take care all.

Takara
07-27-2004, 12:31 AM
How about I change it to extreme homophobes? The kinds that would fire someone just because they are homosexual, or worse, kill them?

CloudSquallandZidane
07-27-2004, 01:38 AM
Sounds like an interesting concept, but is it wise to put the burden on people who will work, and make them carry people who do not? If folks are allowed to sit back and collect food and meals anyway, what's the incentive for anyone to work at all?

Sure personal advancement could be a just cause, but if you can survive without work, I'd be wary of laziness taking over.

Just a thought. Still, I very interesting idea.

Take care all.


Very true, but im counting on the human urge to always be better than someone else. Any beileve me if you had no computer, and television, and only the basic needs and u saw somebody with money and didnt have to eat the same government issued meals every 7 days you'd work... This is just a safety measure for those who may live on the streets or in stricken poverty... I always beileved it was the job of the government to take care of the people, that live in the country, when they cant/wont take care of themselves.

Psychotic
07-27-2004, 01:51 AM
BoB's just trying to make another gang war! So I refuse to make a world thing! I'm onto you!

Citizen Bleys
07-27-2004, 02:03 AM
Of course, there will be a lot more than one leader involved in this ... world... type... thing. :)

Not for long, there won't.

-N-
07-27-2004, 02:46 AM
For the time being, consider this seperate to Proto's idea. I'm yet to have some things confirmed.

If an EoFF world were to be created, would you like to be a leader? You would be the leader of a region with an independent government. If so, please fill out the following with your own details.

Name: Your name, obviously. Screenname, real name, political name, whatever. Preferrably the name that you're most well known as.
Government Type: Dictatorship? Monarchy? Democracy? Something else?
Name of Region: What you would name your region.
Values: The things that you believe in. This can include stuff like religion, happiness, freedom or anarchy.
Against: You can leave this blank if you like, but I figure some people would like to list a few things.
Plans: What you intend on doing once you become leader. Or at least, what you want people to think you intend on doing.
Propoganda: Anything you might want to add to convince people that you're someone they'd like to have as a leader.


Politics shmolitics. I'd much rather be a corporate leader than a political one. I have problems imposing my will on others. If I were to be a political leader, I'd want to be Secretary of Defense, or Secretary of Science (the latter being analogous to Senate Committee on Scientific Affairs, or something).

Calliope
07-27-2004, 06:16 AM
This thread makes me miss Wyllius :hat:

nik0tine
07-27-2004, 07:10 AM
If an EoFF world were to be created, would you like to be a leader? You would be the leader of a region with an independent government. If so, please fill out the following with your own details.

Name: nik0tine
Government Type: Socialism
Name of Region: Town over yonder.
Values: good music. ganja smokin'. (were the ganja smokin' eskimo's after all)
Against: war, autocracy, light beers, and trashy, grocery store romance novels.
Plans: ensure that everybody has the healthcare they need, as well as any bare minimum necessities that they need.
Propoganda: Im nik0tine, and i approve this message.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 08:09 AM
How about I change it to extreme homophobes? The kinds that would fire someone just because they are homosexual, or worse, kill them?
Homophobes are just people with homophobia. :) But don't worry, I'm just picky when people say "anti-homophobia" because I'm a homophobe and I haven't done anything wrong (unless having a fear is wrong). If you really want to be specific, I'm sure you can just say "anti-homosexual" or... uhm... something.

Psy: The ideal gang war consists of two teams, not about twenty. But even if I was promoting gang wars (which I always have), what's so bad about that? =o

nik0tine
07-27-2004, 08:14 AM
Homophobes are just people with homophobia. But don't worry, I'm just picky when people say "anti-homophobia" because I'm a homophobe and I haven't done anything wrong (unless having a fear is wrong). If you really want to be specific, I'm sure you can just say "anti-homosexual" or... uhm... something.

that isnt what homophobia means (even though it should be) homophobia is a hatred for homosexuals because of their sexual preferance. homophobia is despicable and i hate it.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 08:18 AM
Check dictionary.com or any dictionary - it should say hatred or fear, even though it was originally designed for fear only, and the reason it's used for hatred as well is probably because so many people misinterpreted it over the years.

Az Lionheart
07-27-2004, 10:20 AM
if you vote for me all members in my sociatiy will recive all FF games and a free subscrition to FFXI. :p

Jebus
07-27-2004, 11:10 AM
If you vote for me I will ensure that all members receive their weight in an alcoholic drink of their choice.

Az Lionheart
07-27-2004, 11:11 AM
and if they are not people how drink alchol?

Jebus
07-27-2004, 11:26 AM
Then they get whatever beverage they prefer.

CloudSquallandZidane
07-27-2004, 11:47 AM
If you vote for me i'll make u all kings amoung men...

Az Lionheart
07-27-2004, 11:48 AM
i will make you kings amoung men and queens amoung women :D
lol

Citizen Bleys
07-27-2004, 12:01 PM
I guess I might as well fill in the bloody form:

Name: Emperor Bleys J. Maynard
Government Type: Fascist dictatorship
Name of Region: The Confederacy Aldenar
Values: Power, wealth, and Aldenar Ascendant!
Against: The foolish deadlocks of democracy
Plans: Reform the military (i.e. kick out the dead wood and replace them with my supporters), find jobs for the people. I'd even find work for my political enemies--but the pay in those internment camps isn't really competitive.
Propoganda: I don't need to convince people they want me as a leader--only that they'd better learn to live with the idea, or they'll be sorry.

CloudSquallandZidane
07-27-2004, 12:01 PM
Did i mention the free cookies????

Az Lionheart
07-27-2004, 12:03 PM
free cookies is nothing compared to free subscrition to FFXI

sephxangel
07-27-2004, 12:07 PM
If you vote for me I will ensure that all members receive their weight in an alcoholic drink of their choice.

omg, you're gonna make this so hard...
my weight in alcohol??? *drools*

Polaris
07-27-2004, 12:07 PM
Name: Adeselna Diaz
Government Type: My democarcy
Name of Region: Heavensky
Values: Religion what people want to believe, happiness, simpathy.
Against: All the dark thoughts
Plans: Work, be happy, live, have fun...
Propoganda: I am what I am and I'm not goona make promisses that I know taht i can't make!

King_Adz
07-27-2004, 01:10 PM
Name: King Adz :chop:
Government type: A non-evil Dictatorship (No tyranny!!) :D
Name of Region: Ravenash
Values: Capitalism, Happiness for the people, A fair state.
Against: Terrorism, Anarchy, Chaos
Plans: To increase the chocobo population by at least 25%
Propaganda: Free Chocobos for everyone!!! :choc:

Vote for me and... well.... FREE CHOCOBOS FOR EVERYONE!!! :choc:

Psychotic
07-27-2004, 01:38 PM
Psy: The ideal gang war consists of two teams, not about twenty. But even if I was promoting gang wars (which I always have), what's so bad about that? =o

Usually it means I have to spam things, that's what's bad. Oh, wait :)

Anyway, I have a really REALLY good question:

On page one, you sort of said that if you were a leader of EoFF, making it look hypothetical like EoFF city, what would you do etc. But now people are all talking about voting and stuff. Where the hell did THAT come from? :confused:

EDIT: And is this becoming some warped version of the elections? I mean, Jebusia has it's own thread, election party style. Is there gonna be voting?

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 01:54 PM
Name: Sir Loony BoB
Government Type: Dictatorship
Name of Region: Aiyonia
Values: General happiness of the people, encourages religion to all Gods, traditionalist at times, magic, order and organisation, involvement by all.
Against: Anarchy, wars based on power and greed over freedom, uhm... actually, I'm not that sure.
Plans: I have no idea! Have fun. :) Be all political. And stuff.
Propoganda: I'm BoB! :D *falls over*

I don't know if I'll actually end up playing, mind you, but we'll see how things go. I'm all excited about this already, I can't wait for everything to go ahead. I have so many ideas. But I have no idea how to do some stuff until everything's going ahead, so we'll see how things go. :) I think I have around 24 potential leaders right now - I'm hoping to have between 20 and 40 regions, so keep them coming. The leaders with the most votes pick their starting region first, but that doesn't mean people with one vote (or none? o_o) can't get a region of their own. :)

Cz
07-27-2004, 01:56 PM
Name: Field Marshal Czanthor E. Vilman
Government Type: Militocracy/Autocracy. (Due to the strategic importance of the area, there is a high military presence. While a parliament does exist, it has no real power, as the military could overrule the ministers by force at any time. Since the Field Marshal is head of the army, he is in effect the ruler. The regime is by no means harsh, but the secret police certainly are.)
Name of Region: Czanthoshire.
Values: Order among the people. Military supremacy over rival nations. Also supports strong scientific and industrial development. Leisure-wise, the government are keen on promoting competitive sport and daily public smitings.
Against: Globalisation, Anarchy, Environmentalism, Elephants.
Plans: To add extra fortification to the major city, St. Mehsburg. To establish mag-lev transport links between Czanthoshire and neighbouring states. To win the world lacrosse championship within the next 3 years.
Propaganda: Look at the facts. Our nation has only been attacked once since Czanthoshire's military took over, and that invasion was quickly crushed by our 'Irony Curtain' defence system. What we need is a strong, united nation, and Czanthor can provide it. Not to mention that Czanthoshire has had 45% better weather since he came to power, and Carbon Dioxide emissions have increased tenfold. If you're looking for global warming, Czanthor'll provide it!

There's so much more I could write, but there's just not enough time. :(

Baloki
07-27-2004, 02:00 PM
I can see what trickery is being planned here and I warn you I will rig this somehow if I need to I tells you RIG THIS, bwhahahahahahahahaha!

Cz
07-27-2004, 02:01 PM
If there is rigging to be done, I ally myself with Baloki.

Psychotic
07-27-2004, 02:19 PM
I could rig it BAoTW-style if I wanted. Which'd include Bally-naka-neko ;)

But then BoB would send me another abusive PM telling me off about rigging. :greenie:

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 02:39 PM
It's impossible to rig these elections by asking people to vote for you as alliances are allowed in politics.

As for all this talk about voting: We're drawing up a map and will divide it into a certain amount of regions, hopefully 20-40. The members will then vote on which leaders they like the most, and the leaders with most votes will have priority pickings when choosing their starting regions. After that, well, wait and see for now because we're still working on the details, obviously. Proto and I have only had a few chats while settings things up and my main priority at the moment is getting everyone moving and drawing up the draft map (which is almost done) so Proto can make a cgi of it.

EDIT: I really need to emphasise that this is NOTHING to do with the map or the thread that Proto started. It's just expanding on the idea. This will be sort of an interactive world.

Jebus
07-27-2004, 02:45 PM
A vote for Jebus is a vote for progress.

Oh. And free booze too.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 02:48 PM
Maybe in this world booze wouldn't have been invented yet!

...okay, it has. I don't think we'll go neanderthal on this game (although maybe Bowser will). But keep in mind that you might have to adjust to fit in with the world. Some people are promoting things like airships, summoners, Final Fantasy XI and other such things when they don't even know if they'll exist in this world. =o

But the big picture will be revealed in due course...!

Jebus
07-27-2004, 02:49 PM
Yeah. Which is why I'm going with the old mainstay. Every culture has some sort of booze. :D

Rye
07-27-2004, 03:30 PM
Vote for me and I'll give you cookies! :o

Vote for Rye Yummy cookies... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Rye89/rye.gif

Cz
07-27-2004, 04:06 PM
You see, it's things like this that make EoFF so great. BoB, I salute you.

Loony BoB
07-27-2004, 04:37 PM
I warn you, there will be a fair few rules to this thing. :p

Erdrick Holmes
07-27-2004, 05:02 PM
Vote for me, I provide the most freedom, and I have the best flag.

Rusty
07-27-2004, 05:11 PM
Name: Chloe or Rusty
Government Type: A democracy, I have most of the say by residents can put there 2 cents in too :)
Name of Region: Rustyville
Values: Partying, fun, happiness, partying some more...and relaxation.
Against: Boring things and conservatism.
Plans: Become the party capital / relaxation zone. Final Fantasy to become compulsary.
Propoganda: Vote for me if you love to party, relax, have fun, play Final Fantasy and like living on an island with the best of Aussie beaches.

:):)

Heath
07-27-2004, 07:02 PM
Name: Pent Semirhage
Government Type: Monarchy
Name of Region: United Realms of Vanian
Values: Nationality, territorial interests, strategic alliances, exploration.
Against: Orderless lands, restrictive borders, enforced religion.
Plans: To establish somesort of council, with which other countries can meet and discuss the plans of the world. Closer to home, I intend to merge the individual houses that rule over parts of URoV into one, with each Marquess controlling specific elements (i.e. education, military strength, defence). Within the year, borders with other countries will have more effective fortification and the town of Lycia to be upgraded to an industrial centre.
Propoganda: <s>If I go down I'm taking you with me.</s>

Psychotic
07-27-2004, 07:47 PM
Ok, now that it's been explained I'll submit a country with such a cool name :love:

Name: Psychotic
Government Type: Walruses. Yep. Don't ask me.
Name of Region: Super Shiny Awesome Mega Cool Muffin Extravagant Brilliant Place Town State Sword-based quasi-post-neo-catastrophic Country Thingy.
Values:
- Swords
- Muffins
- Shiny things
- "Stuff"
Against:
- Avril Lavigne
- Avril Lavigne's hair
- Giraffes that don't know how to tap-dance
- Elitism
Plans:
- Invade the Vatican City and rename it "Super Happy Priest Adventure land!" (A biblical theme park!)
- National Puffin Day
- Free Muffins, Swords, and Shiny things
- Execution of Avril
Propoganda: Muffins. Swords. Shiny things. Enough said.

CloudySky
07-27-2004, 08:15 PM
Am I late? Oh, how could I miss this one! I’m signing in. Let my dream to come true!

Name: CloudySky
Government Type: Ultimate Anarchy
Name of Region: PixelGlamoured (country name as well).
Values: Anime, Final Fantasy, pixel-characters for all. Pixels, anime, FF and freedom rules!
Against: All real people (only pixels and some curves made forms are allowed), no pop, disco and country music in this country never ever…
Plans: Have a happy life and free love for all in pixels’ form, live together with FF and anime characters, have fun and do whatever I and you want. I claim Japan! It's part of my country! I plan to force them to make 2 brand new FF games every year as well as other RPGs and anime I want.
Propaganda: Do I need propaganda?! Not a bit! Only in my country you can date Lulu, Paine, Rikku… imagine yourself who else! Have all kind of adventures and quests and nobody is telling you how to live your life!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shuster/cticons/aylaw.gif http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shuster/cticons/cronow.gif http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shuster/cticons/marlew.gif
http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/cloudani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/aerisani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/quistisani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/tifaani.gif
http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/edeaani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/luluani.gif
http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/tidusani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/vincentani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/yuffieani.gif
http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/sephirothani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/auronani.gifhttp://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/seiferani.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/rikkuani.gif http://www.square-central.com/ff10/yunalesca.gif http://finalfantasyaddiction.web1000.com/kujaani.gif http://members.fortunecity.com/butterflysedge/ff8anigifs/minifujin.gif http://members.fortunecity.com/butterflysedge/ff8anigifs/choco2.gif

Rase
07-27-2004, 08:50 PM
Name: Sir Ryan Stage, Sir Rase Hourdin, The Dark Paladin Cecil
Government Type: Monarchy
Name of Region: Rysa
Values: Christian belief.
Against: Other religions
Plans: Help keep my country safe by strengthening our relations with our neighboring countries. Making sure that there is sufficent resources for everyone, while still encouraging the work ethic.
Propoganda: Our country is very safe, yet ready to help our allies if needed. Our economy is in perfect condition at the moment and only getting stronger. Please send a PM to Dark_Paladin_Cecil concerning passports and any questions concerning our country.

SomethingBig
07-27-2004, 09:14 PM
Name: King Bigsalot
Government Type: Limited Monarchy
Name of Region: Le Grand Chien
Values: Freedom[of Religion, speech, etc.], peace
Plans: To achieve democratic relations with as many regions as possible. To open our doors to anyone in need and to support as many of our citizens as humanly possible.
Propoganda: BoA is the most beautiful person in the world and she is my wife. That, and I'm still the biggest.

Ultima Shadow
07-28-2004, 12:10 AM
Name: Lord Ultima
Government Type: Dictatorship
Name of Region: Elmorrd
Values: Free Final Fantasy, muffin and beer to everyone! :beer:
Against: Laws, justice and flying pigs. :radred:
Plans: Transform the world into a gigantic banana! :p
Propoganda: Top secret info. :shifty:

Trumpet Thief
07-28-2004, 01:24 AM
Name: Lionheart Griever

Government Type: Monarchy

Name of Reigon: Revlis Riah

Values: Each citizen will be given an :oscar: and if they give their soul up to me, their family will be given free Ultima Points

Against: Freedom

Plans: To spray paint the world silver

Propaganda: I've got silver hair

Citizen Bleys
07-28-2004, 02:43 AM
Wait, you're making a game out of this?

Smells like work. Count me out.

-N-
07-28-2004, 03:16 AM
If you vote for me I will ensure that all members receive their weight in an alcoholic drink of their choice.

You've got my vote. :D Make me Secretary of State or Defense or something. ;)

BoB, any idea on how this integrates into Eyesonia?

Jebus
07-28-2004, 08:09 AM
Don't worry about it Neel. If I'm elected all my officials will retain their positions, even though this is totally separate from the other thing.

Loony BoB
07-28-2004, 08:35 AM
The original Eyesonia (I say original because I don't know if this place will pick up the same name or not) has no connection with this world.

Jack
07-28-2004, 12:37 PM
I AM NOT MISSING OUT ON THIS!!! (But i guess I have)

Name:Luna Pumpkin
Government Type: Limited Monarchy
Name of Region: Pixie Hanna
Values: Freedom[of Religion, speech, etc.], peace,The beauty of music and written expression,Love and consideration to all!!!
Plans: To achieve democratic relations with as many regions as possible. To open our doors to anyone in need and to support as many of our citizens as humanly possible.Money shall be aimed toward those who are nationals of the nation, and any refegess wanting tojoin our fair land will have to prove their alliegence to the nation. Music shall be played, and love shall be shared. Marriage is gone with, and hot women shall be fair game, but it has to be all legal. No rape people and no degrading. Also, hot guys shall also under the same rules...
Propoganda: Poems rock, Joel is a nice person, and Love is good. There is no discrimantion, and those who break laws shall be punnished, but only to a fair amount.

Jebus
07-28-2004, 02:20 PM
The original Eyesonia (I say original because I don't know if this place will pick up the same name or not) has no connection with this world.

I know that. But my supporters seem to still want to work for me even though we'd have never met, etc. in this new one. Partly because I've promised them jobs if they vote for me.

Loony BoB
07-28-2004, 02:24 PM
I have no problems with you guys using the same names / groups / etc. (well, some names may need to be shortened :p), I was just referring to princeofdarknez's question. :)

Jebus
07-28-2004, 02:26 PM
Right-o then.

Jebus stands for equality, and diversity.

You don't hate diversity do you?

Vote for Jebus.

sephxangel
07-28-2004, 02:38 PM
A vote for me is a vote headed in the right direction....

so yea, vote for me!

Loony BoB
07-28-2004, 03:19 PM
sephx, did you ever give your government/region a name?

Jebus
07-28-2004, 03:22 PM
Ah, yes. That reminds me. That's just a working title for my nation. I'm trying to think up a more realistic one, I've already got a more serious style flag.

Loony BoB
07-28-2004, 03:24 PM
No problem - all the 'Name of Region' bits will probably end up being the name of your nation, not the name of the actual region... although you will probably be naming the geographical features anyway.

Baloki
07-28-2004, 03:31 PM
2 quick things, a) I might change my whole stance thingie again as I am begining to understand this

and b) Couldn't you also use nation states and set up an EoFF world bit and that might ease the mechanics a bit? Just an idea...

sephxangel
07-28-2004, 03:42 PM
sephx, did you ever give your government/region a name?

yea, sephxania.
(see sig)

SomethingBig
07-28-2004, 05:27 PM
Everyone that votes for me gets a complimentary cheesecake.

Baloki
07-28-2004, 09:02 PM
Ok we all wanted properganda so I made some, no offence is meant but he is evil and out to get your chocobos, so vote Baloki and I'll keep him entertained ;) <3


http://www.merchantsofdoom.com/~baloki/bob_lick.jpg

Proxy
07-28-2004, 09:09 PM
Name: Aranel or Matt
Government Type: Democracy
Name of Region: Aura Isle
Values: Happyness & Fun. This is a place to escape the hussle & bussle of the everyday world, of course, not for free ^_~. Consider it a vacation spot.
Against: aggressive, hostile & generally boring people that don't like to have fun.
Plans: Establishing a beautiful tropical resort get-away. huge 5star hotel/resort type, with 4 pools, and a swim up bar in each, full room service, all inclusive packages.
Propoganda: Think "Eden" with more beautiful women, gorgeous men (for the womens), gambling, drinking, activities from dawn to dusk and after. clubs around the clock, full room service, laundry servces, meals are delivered to room upon request, also has an all you can eat buffet. this is the place everyone dreams of being, and all at an affordable price!

Ultima Shadow
07-28-2004, 09:13 PM
Ok... those who vote me get free tickets to the drunken, dancing banana show. :beer: :banana: :beer:

Proxy
07-28-2004, 09:15 PM
those who vote for me. get an all inclusive trip for 4 for 3 weeks, free. /gg >=}

Nait
07-28-2004, 10:42 PM
I am not here to tell you to vote for me, or to vote against someone else. I am here, today, to tell you of an opportunity. An opportunity to join for a just cause, a righteous movement, a nation that is being born right this minute for people like you or me. A nation of peace and prosperity, of justice and right, of that which makes humanity go beyond the beast, and go beyond that other beast, the sophisticated monster of our minds that we so much hate - and which we so readily embrace.

Zhem means much to me. I was an outcast when I lived amongst those who birthed me - I was an outcast in the hyena-pen, where the bars were laden with rabies-ridden spittle and marks from broken teeth. I couldn't stand to live there, with the wars, injustice, violence and poverty of the common people, and the cruelty and avarice of the rulers. The bloating carcass of a government under which my family toiled used whips and chains for the children, and worse for the parents... So much worse that I discovered as a truth the fact that my parents were driven mad by the constant torture and breaking of the soul they were subjected to. My sisters were killed as they tried to escape, and all I have left of them is a fragment of their fingers, all of which I still carry with me today.
So I escaped. I travelled for two years the land, seeking a pure land where I might settle and live in peace. But there were none. No one would have me, a slave of the past, a reminder of their menacing neighbour. So one day, I stopped, and listened.

What did I hear? I will not tell you, but hear me on this! It was the most beautiful word of my life, a word that lifted my soul and strengthened my sight, which gave me power to overcome the adversity I had faced and which was... Beautiful. And who said it was even more beautiful, and I saw a God before me. She spoke to me, and I answered, and from that day I have not sought, I have not searched and I have not quested for an answer - because I found it that day, in the eyes of Armi, the beautiful goddess, the goddess of hope.
She told me to wait, and show others they way she had shown me. And she smiled.

Carnage
07-29-2004, 12:46 AM
Name: Carnage(could a cid knight change my EoFF sn to that?PLease?)
Type Of Government: Mobocracy
Name Of Region: Karlin
Values: No Karlinian on Karlinian crime of any kind. Treat Karlinians with respect. Keep away from outsiders. Do not trust eaisily. For the good of the people. Violent only care about themselves.
Plans: Destroy as much of the outside world as possible. Fill karlin with riches and beautifull things.

Is it to late to enter??????

-N-
07-29-2004, 03:54 AM
Ah, yes. That reminds me. That's just a working title for my nation. I'm trying to think up a more realistic one, I've already got a more serious style flag.

It's cool if you rename Jebusia, but why change the flag? :D

And what's the world-creator-dudes (e.g. (OMG THIS MEANS EXAMPLUS GRATUS) BoB and pr00t) stance on multi-national corporations? Or just regular ones? I know I asked this question in another thread, but I'm eager to know the answer.

Trumpet Thief
07-29-2004, 04:17 AM
If you vote for me, you will be allowed to steal without the law chasing you!

-N-
07-29-2004, 08:53 AM
If you vote for me, you will be allowed to steal without the law chasing you! *steals your bowels* :p

Nait
07-29-2004, 11:14 AM
And what's the world-creator-dudes (e.g. (OMG THIS MEANS EXAMPLUS GRATUS) BoB and pr00t) stance on multi-national corporations? Or just regular ones? I know I asked this question in another thread, but I'm eager to know the answer.


I am, as you can see, not BoB or Proto, but here's a suggestion:

You are a citizen of a certain state, I'd say - corporations need contracts, and contracts aren't self-promoting, you need government for that. You could be a citizen under a state, but have stuff in other states, like people working for you. :) Or something like that. Same for secret cults and stuff, and religions. *_*

Loony BoB
07-29-2004, 01:20 PM
Aye, it's possible, as Nait put it there, but corporations didn't really exist in those times as nobody had that kind of money for investments, nobody had a fast enough means of travel (which would need to be done on a regular basis so money - or whatever it is that you use - could be sorted out, as you'd need to pay your workers and you'd need to have them move profits to yourself. Chances are they'd tell you to bugger off.

I imagine the only corporations of any sorts would be sea-trade...? Rather than have people working for you, you would just put yourself at the 'top of the food chain' or whatever - you'd be the leading supplier to various places, they would pay you for what they get from you, and they would sell what they get for whatever profit they like. The more people you sell to, the more money you'd make. Rather than having employees in various countries, you would merely have customers/clients. You'd have to be careful with the governments of each client though. I don't think corporations would be realistic in these times for these reasons.

sephxangel
07-29-2004, 01:28 PM
everyone who votes for me get their very own....MOOSE!!!
yes i said moose everyone!

:moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:

Nait
07-29-2004, 01:50 PM
Aye, it's possible, as Nait put it there, but corporations didn't really exist in those times as nobody had that kind of money for investments, nobody had a fast enough means of travel (which would need to be done on a regular basis so money - or whatever it is that you use - could be sorted out, as you'd need to pay your workers and you'd need to have them move profits to yourself. Chances are they'd tell you to bugger off.

I imagine the only corporations of any sorts would be sea-trade...? Rather than have people working for you, you would just put yourself at the 'top of the food chain' or whatever - you'd be the leading supplier to various places, they would pay you for what they get from you, and they would sell what they get for whatever profit they like. The more people you sell to, the more money you'd make. Rather than having employees in various countries, you would merely have customers/clients. You'd have to be careful with the governments of each client though. I don't think corporations would be realistic in these times for these reasons.

True dat. Religions and such fit the role of the Big Corporations better in a low-tech scenario.

The closest I can think of a low-tech international corporation is the East Indies something something something, which was almost a nation unto itself.

Cz
07-29-2004, 04:22 PM
Presumably, our universe would start out operating under a feudal system, or something similar. In this case, there would be no corporations of any sort. Families or communities might specialize in a certain trade, but large-scale companies wouldn't exist.

Personally, I'm opposed to the idea of a business world, but if we do choose to go along that path, it could work something like this:

Each nation would have dedicated settlements for each branch of industry (such as mining or arms manufacture). These settlements would provide their nation with items, and expand their operations into other states should the oppurtunity arise. As times change, and the business world develops, these industries could be taken over by an individual or group, who would then oversee any decisions involving that particular corporation.

As an example, suppose a human community were established, with the purpose of creating weaponry for their nation. This settlement soon became the chief source of weaponry in the local area, perhaps the whole region. It would begin exporting its wares to other towns, maybe to allied nations. Eventually, one of the weapons makers is able to buy the other businesses, becoming the main supplier of arms in his town (and therefore the entire nation). He now owns his own company, and can choose to establish further factories in other states (with their permission) to expand his empire.

In some cases, two businesses might exist within a single nation, in which case they could either merge their assets or compete for the custom of their nation.

Of course, this would all happen over a long period of time. No businesses would develop for hundreds of years, and depending on how exactly BoB and Prot want this world to work, it could turn out that none develop at all. It might be a better idea to have the towns stay as just towns, and not muck around with company expansion etc.

Ultima Shadow
07-29-2004, 06:07 PM
If you vote for me, then I will vote for you. :D

Baloki
07-29-2004, 07:39 PM
If you vote for me, then I will vote for you. :D

So you only want 1 vote?

CloudSquallandZidane
07-29-2004, 09:39 PM
Did i mention the free cookies with every vote for me???


EDIT2: : Lo, there do I see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers, Lo, there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning, Lo, they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them, In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live...
... forever.

Ultima Shadow
07-29-2004, 10:01 PM
So you only want 1 vote?
Actually, I won't vote for any of them. It's just something I say to make stupid people think they should vote for me. It was all a lie....... ops, shouldn't have said that. :p

-N-
07-30-2004, 03:22 AM
I see. Yes, the East India Tea Company was quite an example. It seems that being in possession of natural resources would be the only way to start up a well-oiled company from scratch, and supplying that for money. And you're right, it would depend on the governments' stances towards capitalism, such as whether they would just seize all assets and nationalize them, or let them be privatized. *watches*

GrimmReaper
07-30-2004, 05:49 AM
Name: Grimmreaper
Government Type: Dictatorship
Name of Region: Neifelheim
Values: Human rights, common sense, my murderous stuffed panda bear plushie, and my mommy.
Against: moronic statements such as this.
Plans: to govern my lands, and provide for the benefit of my people.
Propoganda: I do not force people to dwell in my country. I only give them the decision that they may live here, or die elsewhere.

The flag and geographical technicalities have yet to come; as of my lazy bum. and forsome reason i thought i posted in the wrong topic.

*undeletes*

Wyllius
07-30-2004, 12:15 PM
My cousin stole my Civ CDs when she fled to California last week. However as this world seems to allow magic it might be amusing to add that aspect to rule.

Name: Lord Romuald M Wyllius
Government Type: Sorcerocracy/mageocracy. As before, who can use magic, rule.
Name of Region: Tremare
Values: Binding Daemons to our will, controlling the undead, enslaving humanity, genocide against elves.
Against: People's 'rights', anything that gets in the way.
Plans: wait until the World decimates itself with warfare then either enslave or exterminate.
Propoganda: If you can use magic, study and use it to Tremare's advantage, if not, you'll be a soldier or builder, or hatmaker.

Loony BoB
07-30-2004, 12:38 PM
Okay, all this is closed up now. Voting will begin in The Leader Board thread. :)

Proxy
07-30-2004, 11:43 PM
(psst shouldn't you or pr00t close it then? O_o)