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Baloki
08-08-2004, 03:47 PM
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Our Country
Atlantica is a democratic republic consisting of several islands, Nauticus, Hermes, Neko and Loki which for several years were warring factions. However during the age of creation several members of each governing body realised the need for peace and created the democratic nation of Atlantica.


Government
Our government consists of two parliaments, the Democratic Parliament of Union Decisions which deals with all matters relating to our country and the Atlantican Central Amphoria Parliament. These two independent bodies communicate via the Central Parliamentary Body UCAB (United Central Atlantican Body)

The DPUD (Democratic Parliament of Union Decisions) consists of 3 democratically chosen members from each island (a total of 12 equalling the number of stars on the flag) and the ACAP (Atlantican Central Amphoria Parliament) consists of 2 representives from each island, a minister for war and a foreign secretary. Both the DPUD and ACAP meet up in the UCAB 4 times a year with a governmental secretary which is picked via a national vote.


Our Flag

<img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9470&stc=1">


A Map of our Fair Nation


<img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9746&stc=1">

I'd like to thank Nait for making the map outline :D


The Isle of Neko
The center of all political and trade for the entire nature, the Island of Neko is a hub of activity and encompases the nations capital Amphoria as well.

The Isle of Loki
This island contains some of the most vicious armies and people of the whole of Atlantica, they only agreed to the unionised nation for the fact that they were nearly beat and cause much discord in the harmonised parlerment.

The Isle of Natuicus
The largest island in the nation and also the most agricultural. This island may seem backwards now but with planned test sites and much new boat testing in its large bays it could soon become the technological hub and bring forward the nation in leaps and bounds.

The Isle of Hermes
The main production and training center of the island with the nations army and navy currently based here, Hermes is otherwise a very desolate island.


Diplomatic Channels
The agreements state that during times of peace free trade and mutual cooperation will be made between Atlantica and the agreed states

However Atlantica still reserves the right to refuse entry to any person(s) that attempt to enter its state if it feels their journey is unjustified. Also if it does not feel that any action will not benifit the nation of Atlantica it will also publically refuse to join in with that action. This agreement is called an 'mutual peace agreement'.

The following nations currently have a mutual peace agreement with the United Nations of Atlantica:
* The Nation of Zhem
* Sephxania


Other
I will update this post as more information about our country becomes available but if you would like to become a member of our government please post in this thread or PM me, thank you :D


Notes About Images
Please note for the background of this post to show up and the flags image you must be logged in, if you cannot log in for any reason we are sorry for the annoyance.
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Nait
08-08-2004, 03:52 PM
That's a pretty awesome flag, there. Where'd you steal it? :D Just kidding, kidding. ;)

Baloki
08-08-2004, 04:00 PM
Thanks Nait :D

Psychotic
08-08-2004, 10:55 PM
Cool :)

Not that you like MY country!

Baloki
08-10-2004, 04:36 PM
Added a copy of Naits map with my country labeled (Thanks Nait) and will add a description of each island later :D

Nait
08-10-2004, 04:55 PM
<img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9551&stc=1">


If you have PSP 8, I could give you the source. :cool:

-N-
08-11-2004, 02:54 AM
Is that a little whirlpool vortex thing in the middle there? That would be sweet.

Rye
08-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Nice nation there, Baloki. :)

Baloki
08-12-2004, 12:37 PM
I suppose now we're starting for real I'd better cut the lines of communication and try to recruit 2 more people, then I'll be sorted :D

Where can I find 2 lazy people who will just sit there quitly nodding their heads, hummmm...

-N-
08-13-2004, 02:15 AM
Who's the leader of this nation? I need to address an ambassadorial letter to SOMEONE. :)

Baloki
08-17-2004, 02:35 PM
Who's the leader of this nation? I need to address an ambassadorial letter to SOMEONE. :)

You could but if its that copy and paste one the nation of Atlantica would not be interested, we prefer people to actually talk to us...

Mo-Nercy
08-17-2004, 03:13 PM
Due to the overwhelming amount of archaological evidence on the Island of Hermes that is relevant to the ancient religious societies and cults of Valkea including the Cult of Väina and the beginnings of Päi, I must INSIST that Hermes be handed over to Zhem immediately...

Just kidding. You can keep your crummy island. (but only because the wonders haven't been decided upon yet :p)

*hugs Baloki and puts propaganda in his blazer pocket* :D :D

Signed,
Ai Ermoa. Näkijä of Valokoto. Cult of Päi.

PS: I'm pretty high. :tongue:

sephxangel
08-17-2004, 03:18 PM
PS: I'm pretty high.:tongue:

well isn't that nice.
me= :beer:
anyone want to join me? lol :D

Baloki
08-17-2004, 03:28 PM
This is not a general spam thread nor one to advertise for other nations guys :D

sephxangel
08-17-2004, 03:31 PM
ok sorry baloki.

I meant to add in that post that I was wanting a peace treaty also. We islands need to stick together you know. i will make a more official letter later though. Just wanting you to now that.

Nait
08-17-2004, 03:32 PM
ok sorry baloki.

I meant to add in that post that I was wanting a peace treaty also. We islands need to stick together you know. i will make a more official letter later though. Just wanting you to now that.


You're not an island, you're a frikking continent. :D

Baloki
08-17-2004, 03:32 PM
ok sorry baloki.

I meant to add in that post that I was wanting a peace treaty also. We islands need to stick together you know. i will make a more official letter later though. Just wanting you to now that.

Don't worry about the letter, *makes a mutual peace agreement*

-N-
08-18-2004, 01:41 AM
Greetings Nobody in Particular!

My name is Teh Neel and I am the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the nation of Fiorenseo, a budding country like yours in the southern part of the Verdantian continent. I write to you today on behalf of the Fiorensean government and its prime minister, Yebus T'Emirano.

We are interested in opening diplomatic relations between your nation and ours. In addition, we invite you to the Council of Valtameri, a group of nations dedicated to developing open sea travel to promote trade. Zhem and Fiorenseo have created the council, and the nations of Aura and Villerorn are soon to join. We understand portions of your nation are close in proximity to the governing region of this council, and thus wish to notify you of its presence and your possible hand in its plans.

You will note this is a customized letter.

Sincerely,
Teh Neel
Minister of Foreign Relations
Emirano, Fiorenseo

sephxangel
08-18-2004, 03:07 PM
You're not an island, you're a frikking continent. :D

:confused:

*looks at map*

d'oh! me and my stupid ADD! oh well! :rolleyes2

Baloki
08-20-2004, 04:34 PM
yay ally buddies :)

Agent Proto
08-20-2004, 04:37 PM
<s>Ok Baloki, you'll have two-thirds of Nauticus at your command. I'll get Nait to update the map. :P</s>

Oops. xD

Keep up the good work Baloki.

Baloki
08-20-2004, 04:41 PM
<s>Ok Baloki, you'll have two-thirds of Nauticus at your command. I'll get Nait to update the map. :P</s>

Oops. xD

Keep up the good work Baloki.

*blinks*

Nait
08-20-2004, 04:43 PM
I did that ages ago. :cool:

Though I gave maybe a teensy bit too little. I'll update it next time.

FightClubFan#47
09-02-2004, 07:04 AM
Peace?

Chibi Youkai
09-12-2004, 06:34 AM
Still recruting people?

Baloki
09-13-2004, 03:15 PM
To Siric, peace 'v' :D

and to Chibi yes, please, please, PLEASE Join! Not that I'm desperate :D

Chibi Youkai
09-14-2004, 12:57 AM
So where do I sign up then?

Baloki
09-15-2004, 07:34 PM
I'll mail Proto later and inform him, but consider yourself joined :D

Pick a city to control :)

FightClubFan#47
09-16-2004, 01:48 AM
peace good.

Chibi Youkai
09-16-2004, 02:34 AM
I don't really know. Just hand me a place, I guess. I'm pretty good at following orders, if that helps any.

Baloki
09-16-2004, 02:38 PM
I don't really know. Just hand me a place, I guess. I'm pretty good at following orders, if that helps any.

I shall make you the owner of Norse :D

Chibi Youkai
09-17-2004, 05:45 AM
Alrighty. Thank you much.

EDIT: so what do I need to do?

Baloki
09-26-2004, 05:29 PM
EDIT: so what do I need to do?

Dunno quite yet, Proto and BoB are changing the rules again, we'll have to see what their planning and secretly scheme while their sorting it out :D

Chibi Youkai
09-26-2004, 11:58 PM
Fine by me.

Trumpet Thief
10-01-2004, 09:18 PM
chaos: Congrats to baloki, who did great in the voting period of Eizon Overseer. I wish your nation well...

Baloki
10-10-2004, 04:44 PM
Looks like I'm not retiring so I'll have to build my railway now...

*Begins hauling blocks over*

Chibi Youkai
10-10-2004, 06:44 PM
Sorry 'bout not being here often. My AP classes haven't been good to me recently.

EDIT: I'll start hauling bricks too.

Baloki
10-10-2004, 06:49 PM
Sorry 'bout not being here often. My AP classes haven't been good to me recently.

Don't worry about it :D

Chibi Youkai
10-10-2004, 06:51 PM
Wo, where do we get to haul bricks to first?

Baloki
10-10-2004, 06:55 PM
Wo, where do we get to haul bricks to first?

We have to build a railway between Amphoria and Norse, once we've done that the Eizon Overseers will take a train ride on it as the grand openning and thats your cue to drive the train off the tracks :D

They'll never know what hit them :tongue:

Chibi Youkai
10-10-2004, 08:27 PM
Great! That should be fun.

Wuggly Blight
10-10-2004, 11:49 PM
Ill note that, the presidents trying to kill his government....

Baloki
10-11-2004, 12:00 AM
Ill note that, the presidents trying to kill his government....

Not my government, the world government :P

Chibi Youkai
10-11-2004, 03:17 AM
Why would he want to kill of his own government anyways?

FightClubFan#47
10-11-2004, 03:30 AM
We need to SOMEHOW connect our rail roads...

Loony BoB
10-11-2004, 02:33 PM
I imagine that a ferry route would be your equivalent. :)

Wuggly Blight
10-12-2004, 06:25 PM
Here is rm2k3 amphoria. Now with added goodness.

Baloki
10-12-2004, 10:07 PM
If this map isn't included I shall beat you BoB, you HEAR ME, BEAT YOU!!!!!!

It looks so cool :D

Wuggly Blight
10-12-2004, 10:09 PM
I think the graphic styles are to diffrent so I think it will be indipendant, besides mines patched so the enter name system works. :D

Chibi Youkai
10-13-2004, 02:05 AM
anything I can do to help out in the building. It may not be the best, but if nothing else I can lend the poweress of Photoshop Elements 2.

FightClubFan#47
10-14-2004, 06:56 AM
YO! Baloki!!! Ferry route? :confused:

Baloki
10-14-2004, 11:26 AM
YO! Baloki!!! Ferry route? :confused:

I hear dover has a lot of them at this time of the year...

Don't see the relivence however, but then I don't see much at the moment...

Chibi Youkai
10-15-2004, 12:13 AM
Yeah, as I recall Dover runs a ferry in or out every 15 minites or so. It's been over 2 years since I've lived in England though, so things may have changed.

We do need to set up a ferry system though, don't we. That might be preferable to swimming to each island.

Baloki
10-15-2004, 12:29 AM
yeah, and the current system of canoes isn't working out to well either due to kinds thinking its funny to drill holes in them :D

Chibi Youkai
10-15-2004, 04:24 AM
Yeah, I've rather found that boats that have holes don't float well.
Are we given the technology to build ferries though? That's kinda like a good deal of reasearch, unless it's flat wooden sail ferries.

Baloki
10-15-2004, 11:45 AM
I suppose if we have trains we must have some kind of ferries but who knows, BoB and Proto are crazy...

FightClubFan#47
10-15-2004, 04:45 PM
Ill make the route when i come home again :P

Unless you beat me to it...

Chibi Youkai
10-16-2004, 12:16 AM
I guess that means we need to build port cities or something like that too, huh?

Baloki
10-16-2004, 01:10 AM
If I remember correctly Amphoria is a port city and Norse is inland.

Therefore I would probably build rain tracks between Norse and the fort and also establish a town along the east cost near Amphoria (on the isle of Loki) and link the town and Amphoria by ferry. While the town and Norse are linked by rail route.

Dunno, what do you think?

Chibi Youkai
10-16-2004, 01:32 AM
So are we currently going to leave Hermes and Nauticus alone for now?

Baloki
10-16-2004, 01:41 AM
At the moment Proto and BoB won't let me have any more cities unless I get more members or something however planning for them might be a good idea now I think about it. We'd probably want 2 cities and many towns in Nauticus and leave Hermes with just a town I think.

Not sure...

FightClubFan#47
10-16-2004, 01:44 AM
You got a updated map of Aura and UNA???

I kno there is a BIG map in a thread... but my comp is Homersexual and wont let me copy it...

Chibi Youkai
10-16-2004, 01:51 AM
My best friend deserted me and joined another country... but I'll try and recruit some people. How many people do we have anyways? It's a start, I suppose. We could at least get a ferry running from Loki to Neko. That's the least we can do. That might help us get bricks from one area to another quicker.

Baloki
10-16-2004, 01:52 AM
You got a updated map of Aura and UNA???

I kno there is a BIG map in a thread... but my comp is Homersexual and wont let me copy it...

Ok just so you know its midnight here and I'm still recovering from lack of sleep and hangovers so could you repeat that in a more basic english please?

Either that or I'll look at it again in the morning after sleep and some kind of yought..

Edit:

My best friend deserted me and joined another country... but I'll try and recruit some people. How many people do we have anyways? It's a start, I suppose. We could at least get a ferry running from Loki to Neko. That's the least we can do. That might help us get bricks from one area to another quicker.

I think we have you and Wuggly, not many really :( And I think your right, I'll tell the Overseers our plans right away.

Chibi Youkai
10-16-2004, 01:57 AM
Righty-o. And get some sleep. I'll work on it for awhile.

FightClubFan#47
10-16-2004, 02:10 AM
Ok just so you know its midnight here and I'm still recovering from lack of sleep and hangovers so could you repeat that in a more basic english please?

Either that or I'll look at it again in the morning after sleep and some kind of yought..

Do you have a "paint" map or a .gif map of our two nations...

Baloki
10-16-2004, 02:13 AM
Somewhere yes but I'm not sure if its tottaly upto date as it used Naits map orginally, I'll dig it out for you tommorrow or make a new one :D

Chibi Youkai
10-16-2004, 02:17 AM
I can copy the map and transfer it to a .gif for you, if you want.

FightClubFan#47
10-16-2004, 03:18 AM
Thad be swell ;) :)

Loony BoB
10-16-2004, 09:12 AM
Here is rm2k3 amphoria. Now with added goodness.
Did you make the whole map and everything? Or is that from an existing game?

I should be able to make the inside of the city pretty similar if you send me the chipsets you used. Can't do much about the world map shot, though, as I use a different chipset and don't intend on changing.

Wuggly Blight
10-16-2004, 11:48 AM
there isnt any game story as such its just amphoria, norse, and the atlantican fort in rm2k3, I used ToP and Suikoden style chipsets, with the custom styled mack and bluw charsets.

Loony BoB
10-16-2004, 12:03 PM
Hmm... any chance you can email the stuff you've got over to me? My email is loo<i></i>ny_bob at yahoo do'com

Wuggly Blight
10-16-2004, 01:44 PM
Course. Ill finish it off first as its nearly done. I just need to polish off Norse.

edit: there sent

Chibi Youkai
10-17-2004, 05:51 PM
Siric, I saved it in a .gif format for ya.

This was about as modern as I could find.

FightClubFan#47
10-17-2004, 08:51 PM
Siric, I saved it in a .gif format for ya.

This was about as modern as I could find.

Domo Arigoto!!!

This good enough??

Baloki
10-18-2004, 12:23 AM
Domo Arigoto!!!

This good enough??

theres no port at Norse...

I'll sort something out tommorrow eve :D

FightClubFan#47
10-18-2004, 06:02 AM
I know, but I had to loop -_-

Chibi Youkai
10-19-2004, 01:31 AM
Anything else I can do to help at this moment?

Baloki
10-19-2004, 10:39 AM
If you could com up with a few cool events for the calender thingie that would be great :D

FightClubFan#47
10-20-2004, 02:09 AM
No loop near Norse :(

Chibi Youkai
10-20-2004, 05:11 AM
We could have some sort of day to celebrate the uniting of the nations. Or the success of them actually being able to stay together.

Baloki
10-20-2004, 01:58 PM
Day of Uniting
Ancient times depict a day when the four stubbon kings finally fell to the united forces of the Atlantican movement, this day although lost now in the mysts of time is celebrated on the 23rd of November each year to remind us the price of peace.



What do you think?

Wuggly Blight
10-20-2004, 05:26 PM
Im a monarchist so my view doesnt count...

Chibi Youkai
10-21-2004, 01:16 AM
That's pretty good. So what sort of festivities are held on teh day, or is it just a day to be looked upon?

Wuggly Blight
10-26-2004, 06:19 PM
We can have a give all your money to Wuggly or be blighted day

Chibi Youkai
10-27-2004, 01:49 AM
Yeah, right. The only money I have is my gas money, anyways.

Baloki
11-02-2004, 03:07 AM
We have to have a parade, cake and the issuing of a new coin.

Also we have all the old coins thrown into wishing fountains :D?

Chibi Youkai
11-02-2004, 04:44 AM
So, do we like create a new currency every year, or just a new coin design, or what? Or is it just an irrevelant little thing?

Baloki
11-02-2004, 11:51 AM
New coin design, probably of a high denomination so very few are issued :D

Chibi Youkai
11-03-2004, 04:52 AM
That's cool.
Oh, and how are the ferry lines coming aloung?

Baloki
11-03-2004, 01:34 PM
That's cool.
Oh, and how are the ferry lines coming aloung?

Should have them done tonight :D

Chibi Youkai
11-04-2004, 01:31 AM
righty-o.

Baloki
11-04-2004, 11:26 AM
righty-o.
Ok they have been done, only minor problem I am having is getting them across to this computer so I can attach them...

Wuggly Blight
11-04-2004, 06:34 PM
You have recived a message from his majesty the Emperor...
Good Atlanicans now I have a seat of power I wish to become allies and hope to open a trade route, militry exchange programe and help defend against any and all Zhem related problems.

Chibi Youkai
11-22-2004, 04:16 AM
Alright, since Baloki's not been here for awhile, I'll step in 'till he gets back.
For challenge#3 I propose that we develop some sort of magic to get us from island to island, so we can improve on or completely change the ferry system. Any other ideas?

Trumpet Thief
12-03-2004, 06:07 AM
chaos: I now declare war on this nation. Armies from Vincentland and SSL are making their way over. Sorry Siric, but I need to invade a nation too :D

FightClubFan#47
12-03-2004, 07:36 AM
Meh

Baloki
12-03-2004, 02:53 PM
chaos: I now declare war on this nation. Armies from Vincentland and SSL are making their way over. Sorry Siric, but I need to invade a nation too :D

The local airship defense force bombs your ships before they reach the shores, we are sorry your troops lifes were wasted in such a futile attempt :D

FightClubFan#47
12-03-2004, 04:16 PM
Ya, i kind of figured it was a wasted attempt.

Baloki
12-03-2004, 04:31 PM
I'm sure a peace deal might be worth looking over :D

Trumpet Thief
12-03-2004, 05:24 PM
chaos: Gah, sure, peace :D

Rubedo: Damn, two nations isn't enough for me.

Chibi Youkai
12-04-2004, 05:33 PM
So you're back, baloki. Nice to see you again.

Baloki
12-04-2004, 07:16 PM
I fliter sometimes ^_^

Chibi Youkai
12-04-2004, 07:30 PM
I think we need more people to join our wonderful nation.

Baloki
12-04-2004, 07:55 PM
I say we kidnap some people :D

Chibi Youkai
12-04-2004, 08:45 PM
Just give me a list.

Baloki
12-07-2004, 05:42 PM
A few presidents and maybe a princess or two :D

Chibi Youkai
12-08-2004, 05:10 AM
That shoudn't be too hard.

Cloud_Strider
01-20-2005, 05:34 PM
This is by no reason personal, but I declare war on you. If you come back and defend me, great! But if not... I'm sorry... If you come back after the deadline though, I'll consider giving a bit back to you.

Sutaimian Royal Armies

Wuggly Blight
01-20-2005, 06:36 PM
As allies, Estrana has had troops in the area to help defend it.

Cloud_Strider
01-20-2005, 07:11 PM
I thought that it was only a national that could defend their own country?

Wuggly Blight
01-20-2005, 07:40 PM
Nothing stoppin me :p

Carnage
01-20-2005, 08:45 PM
No wuggly you cannot defend it.

Overseer :cool:

Wuggly Blight
01-20-2005, 09:07 PM
Pfft, thats just being lame to siut your needs...

Cloud_Strider
01-20-2005, 11:12 PM
So Carnage, how many more days will it take for this nation to be partially mine? Proto said that Rysa will be mine in less than a week, so I'm guessing 6 days til Atlantica is Sutaimian?

Carnage
01-20-2005, 11:31 PM
Each war lasts one week, you just posted today, 7 days still. and just FYI you only gain a small part of the nation.

Cloud_Strider
01-21-2005, 12:32 AM
well, Rysa is very small....

Chibi Youkai
01-21-2005, 12:32 AM
Sorry, but we kinda can't let you take what so very little is ours.

Cloud_Strider
01-21-2005, 12:39 AM
I'm actually glad to see someone fight me off! Maybe this will teach Atlantica not to leave it unattended for a month!

Chibi Youkai
01-21-2005, 01:15 AM
I can only edit my posts so many times, since the Glorious seems to be on a hiatus.

Baloki
01-21-2005, 02:17 AM
I'm actually glad to see someone fight me off! Maybe this will teach Atlantica not to leave it unattended for a month!

It has not been unattended for a month, some of us have alot to do and this isn't always high on our list.

Oh and its more I missed the update e-mails xD

Edit: If only new people actually joined Eizon and I could get some more members rather then having to stretch poor Chibi...

Cloud_Strider
01-21-2005, 07:48 AM
Like I said Baloki, it wasn't personal and I would have been happy with losing.. Maybe out of this we could form an alliance or at least an affiliation.

Chibi Youkai
01-28-2005, 04:19 AM
No more war then? Chi?

Bahumat
01-28-2005, 06:35 AM
:eek: :eek:

I hope your not quoting from what i think your quoting....

Baloki
01-28-2005, 03:41 PM
No more war then? Chi?

Hideki! Chi?

Chibi Youkai
01-29-2005, 12:58 AM
Chi!
Anyways, we probably need to get working on the third challenge thingy, even though we're pretty far behind. Speaking of which, there hasn't been a new one for a while.

Baloki
01-29-2005, 05:31 PM
The 3rd challange seems to either be done or dead Chi. Or thats what it looks like, but I'm sure a new challenge will be here soon, hopefully before the upcoming elections, Chi!

Chibi Youkai
01-29-2005, 06:09 PM
Hopefully.
Yeah, elections are coming up soon, aren't they? That should be intresting.

Baloki
01-29-2005, 06:17 PM
Chi *nods*

Chibi Youkai
01-29-2005, 09:44 PM
Alright, just clear things up, where are we situated technologically?

Baloki
01-29-2005, 10:01 PM
We're quite advanced technologically but most of our cities have been serverly damaged by the wars we've been having

Chibi Youkai
01-30-2005, 03:29 AM
You mean those little family feuds?

Baloki
01-30-2005, 02:21 PM
You mean those little family feuds?

Those and the few little war declirations we had :)

Baloki
01-31-2005, 03:56 AM
I might as well double-post as this is the last day of this, but its been an honour and a pleasure working with you Chibi :D

CHIIIII!

Carnage
01-31-2005, 04:09 AM
oMG baloki im banning you!

I giant invisible volcano has just erupted and destroyed atlantica. The gods are angry at your double post!

Chibi Youkai
02-01-2005, 04:05 AM
What's going on here? :(

Baloki
02-01-2005, 10:41 AM
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=55685

Chibi Youkai
02-02-2005, 12:30 AM
Yeah, I saw. This was just the first thread in my inbox. Kinda sucks.