What weapon do u think is harder

[coops_77]

What weapon do u think was harder-ultimate-ruby-emerald?????

[the_end]

well, to be honest i havent beaten either of them but i have come to find that emerald seems to be harder because ruby wepon has most of his attacks things that are cominly defended against and not as physical in other words a few ribbons and u can take him way down where as emerald is much more spuratic and more physical in his attacks also ruby's attacks are easier to recover from, but when emerald hits you he makes sure he hits you good. :Oo::smash:

[Kilika]

i would say that ruby and emerald are both as equally as hard. both suck but i would have to say the easier of the two would be ruby......i dunno

[mr. anderson]

i cant kill either of them, but emerald is harder because without underwater materia you only have 20 min. plus i was killed in TWO turns and i lasted abouted a minute against ruby

[Zante]

Emerald is the worst, because of the Aeria Storm attack. I didn't have any problem swith Ultima, and Ruby is quite easy, as it isn't imune to status attacks.

[Mo-Nercy]

Seeing how everyone knows how to beat both weapons. (Ruby - kill two guys, uses Hades. Emerald - equip minimal materia and get Underwater Materia. Both - KOTR + Mime) I don't think you can say one is harder than the other. Nor can you say that they're hard at all. Perhaps the first people to FF7, who had to get by with forums, FAQs, walkthroughs, guides etc. had a hard time with them. Aire Tam Storm would have frustrating if you didn't understand the principle behind it. But Ruby's claws would have witted out the best of them.

My opinion is that Emerald was harder. Ruby was susceptable (sp?) to status effects and didn't have any attacks that couldn't be Elixer-ed and Esuna-ed. Emerald would pretty much just attack and do a tonne of damage and in my opinion, that's how the big bosses should be.

[razor248725]

probably ruby. he was the biggest pain in the butt to me

[Ultima Shadow]

Ruby and Emmerald... they'r both to easy but I think Emmerald is the harder one.

Ultimate Weapon is the hardest... to find. :tongue:

[Jolts]

Crystal WEAPON is the hardest of them all!! :lol: (Crystal is the one that got its head blown off by the Junon canon)

No, seriously, I'd have to say Emerald. That Aire Tam attack causes you to equip minimal materia (so long as you know why), and because of the timer, you have to equip at least one materia, Underwater (unless you do that limit mime trick to defeat him in under 20:00min.). I think Squaresoft intended Emerald to be harder, which would be why you get the awsome prizes after beating it, but after beating Ruby, the only prize you get is a crappy Gold Chocobo (not good for races).

[coops_77]

well for me there both easy, i beat them like 100 times, but if i had to chose it would be emerald.

[braver_cloud_strife]

I would say the Ruby weapon is harder for me it was pretty easy to beat the emerald weapon once you got u butt kicked a couple of times u really kind of think to do what you didn't do the last time you fought him.

[Dragonfire]

I'd say Ruby is by far the hardest. Emerald is just a push over, once you know what you're doing and/or have Underwater Materia. And, Ultimate...... WHAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? He's the easiest of all the bosses in the game.... except for the final, kill him with omnislash, sephiroth, I guess.

P.S. please don't make a big deal about my, Ultimate being the easiest, claim. I was just trying to make a point.

[coops_77]

Yeah, i put ultimate in there because he is a weapon, eventhough he is eazy. I wanted all fightable weapons to be there. :)

[Ultima Shadow]

*cough*forgot Diamond*cough*
Actually... I think HE is EVEN easier!

[-N-]

Ruby, probably. Emerald is a bit too straightforward.

[Starcrest]

Wouldn't know got my butt kicked by both but probably Ruby is harder but Emeral is more frustrating

[coops_77]

Oh crap i did forget diamond, sorry. :shame:

[Kilika]

wait a sec.....what is this business about not equipping materia against emerald? I never heard about this, well probably since its been forever since ive played FF7...but yeah whats the story behind the low materia thing?

[Jolts]

His Aire Tam attack is based on how much materia the character being attacked has equipped (look at the attack name backwards). I'm not exactly sure how it works, because I've heard many different theories, but it does about 1000HP damage per equipped orb (I've also read that it does 1100 and 1111).

---EDIT---
Oh, and I say "character being attacked" because, even though it attacks everyone, it doesn't go by all of their materia combined. So, it's possible for Cloud to only take 1000 (or whatever) while Tifa (if she's in your party) could take 9999 damage for having too much materia.

[Brian The Pink Shark]

definetly ruby since i needed the master summon materia i got from emerald to defeat ruby, plus you can just kill emerald by getting all lucky sevens :choc:

[Jolts]

When in "Lucky 7s" mode, you'll only attack 63 times with damage of 7777 each. 63*7777=489951. Emerald has more HP than that, so it would take a little bit more after Lucky 7s is done. I read by some person who tested this, that when all three are in "Lucky 7s" at the same time, C1 will attack 61 time, C2 will attack once, and C3 will attack once. So, even will all three of them at Lucky 7s, you'll still only attack 63 times (but if they get Lucky 7s separately...).

All this information is from that guy who tested it...I can't remember his name, but don't credit me for it, if it happens to be correct.

[Brian The Pink Shark]

When in "Lucky 7s" mode, you'll only attack 63 times with damage of 7777 each. 63*7777=489951. Emerald has more HP than that, so it would take a little bit more after Lucky 7s is done. I read by some person who tested this, that when all three are in "Lucky 7s" at the same time, C1 will attack 61 time, C2 will attack once, and C3 will attack once. So, even will all three of them at Lucky 7s, you'll still only attack 63 times (but if they get Lucky 7s separately...).

All this information is from that guy who tested it...I can't remember his name, but don't credit me for it, if it happens to be correct.

yes but when i did this i had already knocked a lot of his health off with KOTR and mime :choc:

[Cloud_Strife14]

The hardest Weapon for me is Ruby because i fight it with just Cloud alone. I let him whirlsand my two other characters and then start pummeling him with some KOT after i take out his claws. Emerald isn't so tough, all you have to is have a mastered final attack and link it with a mastered phoenix and have it ready for his airetam storm and you'll be fine. Same goes for Ruby but instead of a phoenix you have a mastered revive materia on Cloud! All theirs left is the fact that every time you use KOT on Ruby he'll counter with comet2 or Ultima, so thats why you put on a Mystile in your armour slot and all of his magic attacks will miss and he'll go down after a while. :)

[TheSpoonyBard]

None of them were particulary hard, persay, but if I must choose one then it'd be Emerald, as the method I use needs a lot of preperation.

[Auronhart]

Ruby is much harder than emerald if you don't use KOTR.

[Cloud Strife fanatic]

I say that the emerald weapon is harder because well its just to damn scary for one! And another thing the time thing is kind of a big problem unless you get the underwater materia, either way the emerald is harder. :shoot:

[*ETERNAL FANTASY*]

Defeated both and i can say emerald....with ruby theres a pattern i did....took ages but still hard...emerald has that whole 20 mins thing...so yea i can say emerald is harder.

But i saw this Jap video of this guy beating emerald easily onl using one of barrets limit...not sure of the materia combinations but it was crazy....barret just kept doig his limit until it died!

[Raistlin]

Ruby is much harder, because there's only one easy tactic to beat him - Hades(paralyze him). Yes, Hades and W-Summon make Ruby very easy, but try beating him without those for a REAL challenge.

For Emmy, there's literally dozens. Also, Omnislash and other Limits work very well against Emmy, whereas they're all-but worthless against Ruby. Emmy's a cake-walk.

[Darkstrife]

Honestly I don't know what you are all talking about. They are both relatively easy. Ruby has defense and status effects. Counter with pandoras box, a ribbon, and constant healing by any characters left in the battle (providing you were using the common strategy to beat ruby). Emerald is just one big powerhouse. All he does is drain Mp and kill your characters which is easily countered with a combo of a mastered mp absorb, mastered phoenix and mastered final attack, mastered phoenix. When one of your characters die this way you get to revive any fallen characters and absorb Mp in the process. Getting back to the topic though in my opinion Ruby was the hardest because casting pandoras box about 500000000 times was very time consuming. Otherwise all weapons are relatively easy when equipted properly. (Oh and if you needed to know my FF7 file has over 150 hours on it.)

[DJZen]

Emerald is harder since he requires more planning. I had to work out how to beat him with only 5 materia, and that was tough. With Ruby I could at least throw EXP plus and Gil plus on there.

[razor248725]

id say ruby coz you have to deal with those arm/tenticle things. very annoying, but yeah with emerald most problems can be overcome like the time limit

[Raistlin]

Honestly I don't know what you are all talking about. They are both relatively easy.
Yadda yadda yadda. Try fighting both without materia, and you'll see which one's harder. Emmy's a cake-walk. Ruby, without paralysis and killing off two of your characters, is practically impossible to beat.

Both have their strategies that make them easier to beat. Emmy's is just don't equip a ton of materia, and then pound away. For Ruby, you have to kill off both of your characters, have Hades and KotR(or master summon), W-Summon, and Mime, and then pray that you can recast Hades before he gets an Ultima off. Saying Ruby's easy because of all that is like saying they're both pansies because Cait Sith can kill them in one move.

[Auronhart]

For Ruby, you have to kill off both of your characters, have Hades and KotR(or master summon), W-Summon, and Mime, and then pray that you can recast Hades before he gets an Ultima off. Saying Ruby's easy because of all that is like saying they're both pansies because Cait Sith can kill them in one move.
Hmm, you can beat him without any of those things, though it takes a long time and you have to have a pretty powerful character. He is actually fairly hard if you do that.

[DarkMaelstrom]

Guys, what is this Hades you speak of? I killed Ruby in 15 minutes w/o using him. I just connected final attack and phoenix, mime, KOTR, and frequently used cure 3, regen, and full cure. If that doesn't say he was a VERY easy boss, I don't know what does. I watched my brother take on a 3-hour long battle USING Hades and he STILL died. This goes to say Emerald is harder, just because I knew nothing of his Aire Tam Storm attack effect until just now. If I would've known about the materia thing, ohhhh that bastard...let's just say i would've saved 1435445 battles of losses to him.

[MistaCloudStrife]

Well.... if you do the "Kill in a couple minutes Hero Drink" Move... they're both nothing.... =D

But since Emerald has the one hit KO attack... i pick him... =P

[GooeyToast]

Ruby is definetly easier because you can kill him without him ever touching you.

Emerald is a bit harder because you have to have really high HP and some good materia.

[Raistlin]

Hmm, you can beat him without any of those things, though it takes a long time and you have to have a pretty powerful character. He is actually fairly hard if you do that.
Yeah, I've done it. He's VERY hard.


Guys, what is this Hades you speak of? I killed Ruby in 15 minutes w/o using him. I just connected final attack and phoenix, mime, KOTR, and frequently used cure 3, regen, and full cure.
I kinda doubt it, but congratulations, then.


If that doesn't say he was a VERY easy boss, I don't know what does.
Now try without KotR. :D


I watched my brother take on a 3-hour long battle USING Hades and he STILL died.
Exactly. Ruby can be freakin' hard, even with Hades, if you're unlucky.


This goes to say Emerald is harder, just because I knew nothing of his Aire Tam Storm attack effect until just now.
Your own ignorance doesn't effect base difficulty.


But since Emerald has the one hit KO attack...
He doesn't, though. He has a one-hit KO if you're stupid enough to equip a ton of materia. It's not that hard to unequip all those useless ones.


Ruby is definetly easier because you can kill him without him ever touching you.
Yes, with a long, detailed strategy.


Emerald is a bit harder because you have to have really high HP and some good materia.
Hardly. I've beaten Emmy without any materia equipped.

[Ultima Shadow]

Hardly. I've beaten Emmy without any materia equipped.
Yea. It's not even that hard without materia. Ruby on the other hand... is a H-E-L-L without materia...

[Raistlin]

Ruby on the other hand... is a H-E-L-L without materia...
Understatement of the century.

[DarkMaelstrom]

Agreed. Raistlin btw, i have one thing to say about you not believing my strategy about Ruby.
"Believe what you want, I'll know the truth." :tongue:

[Devourment]

Well just on the vice-versa side of the topic i think that Ultima weapon was the easiest, although i have not beaten the other two yet. :) ;) :cool:

[Ultima Shadow]

Understatement of the century.

:D

Agreed. Raistlin btw, i have one thing to say about you not believing my strategy about Ruby.
"Believe what you want, I'll know the truth." :tongue:
Yea, "I" belive you. It's just that if Ruby's not paralysed she (I like to think of Ruby as a girl :D ) will counter KotR with Ultima... which does pretty much dammage...

[DarkMaelstrom]

Yea, that's when you take 1 whole turn to recast full-cure, regen, and any other two spells you'd like with Quadra-Magic

[MistaCloudStrife]

U can beat Ruby with the hero dirnk move too... but you have to do the kill off characters move... then ish simple-fied... ^_~ too easy... =P

[Ultima Shadow]

Yea, that's when you take 1 whole turn to recast full-cure, regen, and any other two spells you'd like with Quadra-Magic
The only thing is that this prevent you from miming the KotR. But, hey... I would say ANYTHING is easy with KotR so... yea... I belive you. I'm just telling you why Raistlin didn't belive you. When I beat Ruby my first time I used Quadra BahamutZERO instead. (I never got a Gold Chocobo :p )

[DarkMaelstrom]

wow man that had to be pretty tough, i wonder how many times it took you =)

[Ultima Shadow]

wow man that had to be pretty tough, i wonder how many times it took you =)
Well... it was a cake walk compared to beating Ruby WITHOUT MATERIA!!! :eek:
And as Raistlin mentioned... that's... well... hard!!!

[Juke]

It is without a doubt that the weapons are the most difficult enemies in the game. The first weapon i defeated was the emerald weapon without the underwater materia, and believe me it took a very lonmg time and many master materia to do it. The key to defeat him is to have three 4x cuts equiped with all your characters attacking with the best weapon they have. the ulimate limit breaks are a help too, clouds omnislash, cid's highwind, and barret's carastrophe seem to work the best. Also, have life of phenoix equiped wiht final attack to save yourself from dying. After about 1 million hp points the weapon should be defeated.
But i think the ruby weapon is much harder because you fight him wiht only one character. If ypou do defeat the weapons the rewards are great with experiece, gil and ap

[Doors]

Ok lets see

Ultimate-well I had KoTR and it only took me one battle to get it to Cosmo Canyon,so umm no...
Ruby-Once you have KoTR W-Summon and Mime he is so easy
Emerald-Annoying but easily beatable if you know how.

I am surprised that noone mentioned Diamond weapon!
He was the hardest for me mainly because I wasnt pumped on steroids(KoTR/mime gasp :/ ) nor did I have ultra 1337 1hit kill limit breaks(omnislash gasps ://) and I was less than level 30.
I beat it in 1st try though,just barely :)