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Snowman
08-15-2004, 04:31 PM
easy topic.....what did you really hate in a past FF that you would never ever want them to put in again.

for example, chill on the puzzles and games. i like to have the option of doing them, but when you have to or you wont get all the ending or powerful weapons, it can be a pain second, third or ninth times around.

also Summons...never again (only joking :love: )

TasteyPies
08-15-2004, 04:37 PM
Leveling up makes the enemies tougher. 8

Salary system 8

Ultimate weapons having drawbacks 7

Wimpy main charicter 10

Killing off a loved charicter 7

Snowman
08-15-2004, 04:47 PM
i liked the badguys getting tougher when we got tougher.

TasteyPies
08-15-2004, 05:09 PM
But that meant leveling up wouldn't help anything.

Snowman
08-15-2004, 05:19 PM
well leveling up meant that the fights could be funner, last longer, give you differnt items and exerpiance. it was easy enough to take diablos as soon as you got the lamp, then boost your HP to the thousands almost directly after.

-N-
08-15-2004, 06:15 PM
Making love the plot focus. 8 It's been done too much by too many people already.

Giga Guess
08-15-2004, 06:18 PM
The enemies levelling up with you just meant you had to be a bit more creative on getting stronger. And that was innovative, in my opinion. What do I NEVER want to see ever again, though? Time limit mini-games. I'm more into thinking, not just....reacting. And I do agree the salary system wasn't very good, but it balanced out the stronger characters->stronger enemies system for those who wanted to keep their levels artificially low. I have to admit, the 1 or 2 healers ONLY in a party didn't agree with me though, or at least balance it out with half decent items in case the healer is snuffed.

Trumpet Thief
08-15-2004, 06:26 PM
chaos: Like Tastey said, NO wimpy, whining, annoying, stupid, irritating...

Rubedo: Retarded main character for FFX.

Giga Guess
08-15-2004, 06:38 PM
Fair enough, but I kinda liked it better than the cold callousness of some other heroes. But then both leave a great deal for character development.

PhoenixAsh
08-15-2004, 07:09 PM
Enemies levelling up I liked, bosses levelling up just seemed a bit like defeating the point. 8

Not being able to get both stolen items and items for winning. 8

A card game that has no point whatsoever if it wouldn't be hard to give it one. 9

Mini-games that you have to do multiple times to get everything, that involve completing the same take ball here, take other ball somewhere else motions and are repeated several times throughout the game anyway. 10

A game set underwater that then takes away the third dimension (what was the point?). 10

A mini-game before a final boss that is based on bad camera angles and takes ages (bad frickin camera angles???????) 10

A mini-game that involves pressing the same button 200 times and resets if you miss one. 10

A completely linear travel through the game and not letting you fly an airship. 10

Yuna. 10

Giga Guess
08-15-2004, 07:22 PM
Agreed on all except Yuna. I liked her!

Ultima Shadow
08-15-2004, 07:26 PM
1) Atma weapon not being harder than the final boss!(ff6)

2) Ultimate weapon being way to weak!(FF7)

3) Ultima weapon not having 7,350,000+hp and immunity to The End + random Megido Flame instead of Quake.(FF8)

4) Ultima weapon (the boss) not being in this game. (FF9)

5) Ultima weapon being WAY to weak.(FF10)

6) Putting both Omega and Ultima weapon to shame! :mad2: (FFX2)

7) Being online only! (FFXI)

8) There's no card game! (All FFs but 8&9)

lockeIX
08-15-2004, 08:06 PM
The draw system. Characters became way too similar and choosing a party was too easy.

-N-
08-15-2004, 10:07 PM
Seriously, all that separates characters from VII onwards are their limit breaks...

Inuyasha23
08-15-2004, 10:14 PM
Tidus, Yuna, Wakka, Lulu, Rikku
Sphere grid sucked
Magic system in VIII
Tidus
easy final boss fights
the weapon system in VIII
Tidus
having to pay to revive characters
the puzles in the temples in X
Tidus
Ramhu losing his place to a stoopid horse
Tidus



I WOULD like to see a job system in the future

Chris
08-16-2004, 01:00 AM
The one thing I really hate about FF games, are the constant random-battles. No FF game is without those painfully long waste-of-time boredom.

Giga Guess
08-16-2004, 01:06 AM
I don't want random battles abolished. Just toned down a bit.

Chris
08-16-2004, 01:15 AM
Well you got a point there...but you gotta agree with me that they can get on your nerves. For example; you spend hours of getting through a level and then get killed right before the boss by a monster...that happened to me once in Final Fantasy IIj. So I had to re-do the whole level, and do you know how painfully long the dungeons are in FFII????
And they're even without save spots, AHHH I wanted to smash my head against the walllllll!!!!

Giga Guess
08-16-2004, 01:27 AM
This is true. But without a certain degree of random battles, how do you level up effectively, and guage progress? I mean, should I be having trouble in RANDOM battles, I'd definately wait to take on the big kahuna.

Trumpet Thief
08-16-2004, 01:31 AM
chaos: I think they should have the battles the way they actually have them in Xenosaga. On screen!

Rubedo: You wouldn't believe how many times I smashed the controller when I got into a stupid random battle... Actually, they aren't that bad or anything; I have just played FF for a long time and am getting tired of them...

Giga Guess
08-16-2004, 01:33 AM
Maybe there should just be a control in the status screen. So when you wanna level up, you're inundated with 'em, and when you gotta get to a save point ASAP, you can shut them off, or all but.

escobert
08-16-2004, 02:03 AM
Final Fantasy 8 - 10-2 in general. I pretty much hated everything about them :p

Takara
08-16-2004, 02:15 AM
What shouldn't ever be in FF again?

- A whiny, stuck-up, annoying damsel-in-distress, love interest, female lead character. *coughs*Rinoa*coughs*

- The hero being under 18. If the heros get younger every game, we'll soon have a 4 months old saving the world.

- A final boss that has no background/purpose and that you only hear about 5 minutes before the end of the game.

Giga Guess
08-16-2004, 02:19 AM
Like Necron perhaps?

DJZen
08-16-2004, 02:33 AM
Card game. Ugh. It's not even a GOOD CCG, it's just a crummy way of getting you to spend more time playing the game. It's basically just dominoes only it has more rules and isn't as much fun to dominate people in. In fact, I don't even want there to be a good CCG in FF. When I play a game, I don't like side-quests much. It's like watching a movie and then having another movie start playing at the same time. Damnit, I want to watch them separately!

I'm going to agree that FF shouldn't be online anymore. One online game is enough. I've started playing FFXI now, and I'm enjoying it, but not only is all the content fairly intimidating, it's also the sorta thing you gotta do all the time to maximize your experience. I don't exactly want to spend every free moment playing video games.

Characters with supercliche mysterious backgrounds. If someone doesn't know much about his or her past, you can pretty much guarantee he or she has an EXTENSIVE past with the central villain. I think it's not very interesting and they've already exhausted what they can do with that archetype. I think they should look for new sorts of characters.

Giga Guess
08-16-2004, 02:57 AM
Agreed. For the supercliched heroes.

lockeIX
08-16-2004, 05:22 AM
Absence of a World Map (X)
Characters being extremely similar in abilities (VII & VIII)
Absence of a Super Boss
Crappy main character *cough*tidus*cough*

Del Murder
08-16-2004, 06:15 AM
Towns that aren't accessible at the end of the game.

UltimateSpamGrover
08-16-2004, 07:25 AM
7) Being online only! (FFXI)



Thats the best part of XI



well I dont like muiltiple party members being killed off for the rest of the game (2)

FightClubFan#47
08-16-2004, 08:22 AM
Sir Ic Knight of Moombas. wait...

1) having to kill 18-22 tonberrys for a freaking tonberry gf.

2)Malabros(sp)

Tulmane
08-16-2004, 12:45 PM
Everything I see here is about FFVIII... Personally I thought it was a great game. It was a really refreshing break from the cookie-cutter cloning of general FF. It felt like they actually, y'know... Spent more than 5 minutes coming up with stuff. That and it took risks!

Personally, though, the one thing I never, ever want to see is a direct sequel. As far as I'm concerned, FFX2 didn't happen.

*pepares for flaming* And neither did FFX >>;

Mo-Nercy
08-16-2004, 01:16 PM
I'm not one to judge FF games for what they should or should not be. I used to be quite judgemental and demand that everyone like FFVIII. I've learnt to respect other's peoples opinions, whether they original or generated through silly conformism (that's right, you know who you are) as well as love a game for what it is.

But I am a sucker for deep love stories. :love:

Snowman
08-16-2004, 03:46 PM
holy crap..thats alot or replys

yuna...god point

i liked draw

Inuyahsa23...leave lulu alone :( :D

Super Christ
08-16-2004, 06:02 PM
There's only 2 things I've disliked, and won't mind seeing them go.

1. Being required to play whatever minigame. Granted, I really liked FFX's Blitzball, but I've hated all the card games, FFX-2's version of Blitzball, and Sphere Break.

2. Random Battles. Chrono Cross was great in that I only had to fight when I wanted to. Which pretty much meant bosses only. Glad that FFXII is doing away with random battles, here's hoping they get rid of the required minigame too.

Pine
08-16-2004, 06:41 PM
Everything I see here is about FFVIII... Personally I thought it was a great game. It was a really refreshing break from the cookie-cutter cloning of general FF. It felt like they actually, y'know... Spent more than 5 minutes coming up with stuff. That and it took risks!

Personally, though, the one thing I never, ever want to see is a direct sequel. As far as I'm concerned, FFX2 didn't happen.

*pepares for flaming* And neither did FFX >>;

And I believe those make topics like these shouldn't exist, because they have no right to to tell what should and shouldn't exist.

:D

TasteyPies
08-16-2004, 06:52 PM
Sorry, as much as many people who have a strange agenda against a simple video game for stupid reasons, X-2 did happen, and yes, it does exist, too bad for you!

:D

Too bad for all final fantasy fans everywhere :shame:

DJZen
08-16-2004, 07:45 PM
well I dont like muiltiple party members being killed off for the rest of the game (2)

(IV, V, VI (potentially) and VII)

Pine
08-16-2004, 08:50 PM
Too bad for all final fantasy fans everywhere :shame:

Yeah, despite the fact you spend most of your time doing nothing but bash the game when someone just mentions it.

:rolleyes2

TasteyPies
08-16-2004, 09:08 PM
Yeah, despite the fact you spend most of your time doing nothing but bash the game when someone just mentions it.

:rolleyes2

I played it, I beat it, that gives me the right to bash it.

Jolts
08-16-2004, 09:37 PM
What should never be in an FF game again?

Uh...FFVIII's junction system, like many have said, mini-games that are required in order to get some of the best stuff (damn all that crap in FFX and FFX-2).
Not everybody is good at those mini-games, but they have to be if they want some of the best weapons in the game :mad2:. If they're gonna' force the mini-games, they could at least make the requisitions lower (getting a 0.00 in the chocobo thing in FFX is impossible for me :().

Pine
08-16-2004, 09:45 PM
I played it, I beat it, that gives me the right to bash it.

But it doesn't give you the right to attack the game when someone mentions it. Something you do over and over again. One little mention, and boom, you make these stupid attacks. I don't care if you hate or not, but the nonse you spew out of your mouth is enough to provke fans who like the game, and go against you.

:rolleyes2

CloudySky
08-16-2004, 09:53 PM
Guys, really, where am I? Are you FF fans? The half of posts in this thread is about HATING FF! I'm shocked! I can't stand this! *shakes head*
I love all FF games! FFX-2 too, and FFX and FF8, FF7, FF6, FF5, FF4, FF3, FF2, FF, FFT, FFMQ even FF9 although this one was too childish and easy but I still love it.
There is nothing wrong with FF games. Card games are great! The only thing I would like never to happen again - getting ultimate weapons in minigames, I think minigames should remain sidequests.
Shame on you! It's FF fans' forum after all! lol

Chris
08-17-2004, 12:28 AM
We don't have FF games...or more correctly I don't hate FF...I just loathe random battles...they've giving me way too much grief, during the years. I wanna state this once and for all - I BREATHE, LIVE and LOVE for FINAL FANTASY :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

Love: can be a moments madness, love can be insane, love can be two hearts that flower as one. Love has many faces. I just happen to hate it's random battle face :D

SomethingBig
08-17-2004, 12:47 AM
The number one thing that should never be in an FF ever again is *drum roll* FFX. Bahahah, just joshin'. I really mean that what makes FFX so bad should never be put into an FF again. Linearity, poor voice acting, an excruciatingly annoying main character, the CTB, and cliche villains are things that I never want to see in another FF ever again.

EDIT:

I just loathe random battles. I BREATHE, LIVE and LOVE for FINAL FANTASY
Isn't that slightly contradictory? FF's are full of random battles.

black orb
08-17-2004, 02:31 AM
>>> Pansy final bosses..

Takara
08-17-2004, 07:32 AM
CloudySky, just because some of us didn't like some things in some of the FFs doesn't make this thread a FF Hate thread. We can dislike some aspects of a game but actually like the rest of it.

For example, I was pretty diappointed about Necron, but FFIX is among my top 3 favourite of the series.

Ultima Shadow
08-17-2004, 08:09 AM
even FF9 although this one was too childish and easy but I still love it.

But FFVIII is the easiest! And FFIX is not childish!
THIS is childish> :elk: :hahaha: :weep: :monster: :strung: FFIX is not. :tongue:

Snowman
08-17-2004, 12:30 PM
I STARTED this thread, so I GET to say what it's about. this isnt for hating FF, nor bashing it. it's for discussing parts of the games we love which simply annoyed us or we didnt feel comfortable with, consider it market research.

people say they hate random battles. i had this conversation with a pal...he started saying he hated random battles because he was killed by monsters, then he said he hated having to level up, then he took it to hating minigames and having to defeat bosses and fighting at all. i pointed out - all he wanted to do was watch the story and movies, yeah he replied, i said why not go to the cinima then.....you bought a sodding video game, what did you expect.

X2 is a perfect example of square careing. theres many people, like mattel, who just stick two fingers up at fans and cancel everything. with square fans are given a choice. if you dont like FFx2 then sod off and dont play it, there are those of us who do. no one makes you play a video game, you have the choice

Jolts, that race in FFx, first time it took me seven goes. when i played the game the second time to try the expert grid, i did the chocobo race first time :) that said i couldnt do the lightening strikes and they did peev me off royally, maybe minigames should offer a fan prize, like getting a character from a past FF or a weapon from a past FF

Pine...ignor Pies, he acts like a child over everything and just wants to provoke, smile and say "whatever"

Jolts
08-17-2004, 05:34 PM
But it doesn't give you the right to attack the game when someone mentions it. Something you do over and over again. One little mention, and boom, you make these stupid attacks. I don't care if you hate or not, but the nonse you spew out of your mouth is enough to provke fans who like the game, and go against you.

:rolleyes2
That's probably why he does that. I bet he's an attention grabber.

Back to the subject. Did I mention I don't like that chocobo crap in FFX? :lol:

Lon611
08-17-2004, 06:14 PM
one thing i don't want again in ff is a villian thats either extremely feminine wehn they are MALE (kuja) :eek: or a bad guy that's not really the bad guy (seymour) :confused: . not really that bad of guy either.ooooh, and no more wimpy main characters (squall, zidane, tidus)....

oooh, i kno i kno pik me! :excited: . the one thing that shud NEVER be in another ff game is blue magic. how many times have u used kimahri, quina, or any blue mage. im not hatin against it, but seems kind of a crappy way to learn skills.

EDIT: Please don't double post. -Murder

TasteyPies
08-17-2004, 06:46 PM
and no more wimpy main characters (squall,zidine,tidus)

Uh....

Squall wasn't a wimp. He was in the military...kinda. He spent his entire life fighting and training. That and he had a "You tend to your problems I'll tend to mine" Attitude. You were just kidding, right?

Zidine? maybe. Tidus? You bet yer arse he is a pansey boy.

Jolts
08-17-2004, 06:59 PM
or a bad guy that's not really the bad guy (seymour) . not really that bad of guy either.
NOT THAT BAD OF A GUY!? WHAT!?
Did you forget about him killing off almost a whole tribe of Ronso just because they were there?
That's like that thread about Shinra not being so bad...pfft.

Lon611
08-17-2004, 07:26 PM
seymour wanted to "heal" spira and end it's suffering. how is that a bad motive?yes destroying the ronso tribe, his father, and kinoc is not the way 2 go about it, while also being ANNOYINGLY persistent (JUST DIE ALREADY) :hot:.poisoning a entire city 4 no reason (kefka), now there's a bad guy. :joker:

i jus realized i was an idiot becuz seymour is already dead. duh. Just get sent already!!!hey, wat if yuna DID send seymour before defeating sin, then auron would accidently get sent, then the whole ending wud b different, wudn't it?Anywayz, wudn't it be interesting 2 use the eye toy 2 put your face on the main character?

EDIT: Hi. We have an edit/delete button if you want to add more to your post. Please don't make multiple posts in a row. -Murder

SomethingBig
08-17-2004, 08:10 PM
Lon... Zidane is far from being a wimp. He went wherever Garnet/Dagger went without hesitation. He went to Garland's base without wanting anyone around.

Squall's just as "wimpy" as Zidane. He opposed the government just to get Rinoa back. Just to get the woman he loves back.

Tidus... Why in the Hell did you put Zidane and Squall with him? Tidus is the only wimp. Wah, Yuna's gonna die. Wah, I'm in a world I don't know. Wah, I'm hungry. Wah, I hate you, dad. Wah, I'm a little panzy boy that can't do this and that.

Pine and Snowman, you must remember that Pies is welcome to his opinion, so long as he's not flaming someone. This is a forum, for Pete's sake.

Lon611
08-17-2004, 08:34 PM
ok, i apologize lol, i'll rephrase. zidane's kewl and all, later in the game he becomes a man, and squall, i'll trust u cuz i never got far in the game (got bored, DON'T yell at me!). tidus, i agree, tho he's more of an emotional guy, not so much a wimp. how many wimps wud CONSTANTLY wanna fight sin, eh?but i say, STOP the emotions! :mad2: all ff's are great cuz of their love stories (7, 8, 9, 10), but i want one more in the direction taht 12 is going, watd you say?

TasteyPies
08-17-2004, 09:00 PM
Lon, when you want to add something to your previous post you can hit the Edit button. It looks alot better and the mods will love ya for it.

Back on topic, I agree. ATB aren't as fun.

Lon611
08-17-2004, 09:08 PM
eh?me no understando. lol, jk. aite, i'll try it nex time. thankx (im a noobie) sooooo..............i think that ff shud have more items to get around. not like worldwide (airship, boat, etc). but i like the idea of sprint shoes(?) in ffvi. or like a bike in the old pokemon. sometimes i wonder how the main character in ff can run ALL the time, lol.

no more blue magic, no more chocobo racing, no more atb. sorri, don't hate, but i thot that the ctb was a lot easier and more strategical than just pounding on your enemies as much as u can, hoping you win cuz u leveled up a bunch. i'm with mo-nercy on this one, i'm a sucker 4 deep luv stories, but how about a light luv story this time?ooooh, and how about making main characters a little bit older. it's kinda weird having teenagers running around saving the world. let's have main characters with a little more background

EDIT: What are you doing to me...

DJZen
08-18-2004, 04:00 AM
That's why they're a hero.

Jolts
08-18-2004, 07:13 AM
seymour wanted to "heal" spira and end it's suffering. how is that a bad motive?yes destroying the ronso tribe, his father, and kinoc is not the way 2 go about it, while also being ANNOYINGLY persistent (JUST DIE ALREADY) :hot:.poisoning a entire city 4 no reason (kefka), now there's a bad guy. :joker:
He was also trying to kill everybody in Spira. He believed he was saving everybody, but he was insane. Insane or not, killing an entire species just doesn't fit my "okay to do" list.

TasteyPies
08-18-2004, 01:29 PM
You think Seymour would understand. If someone wanted to die they would kill themselves. Thats what I dislike about final fantasy x,x-2 villains.

Snowman
08-18-2004, 06:38 PM
something....tasty can voice his oppinions..but not put words into the rest of our mouths :)

tasty, teh villian in X2 wanted to Kill EVERYTHING. he wasnt doing it for anyone. he was sick of war and peoples sins and crimes, so he wanted to simply end it all

Heath
08-18-2004, 08:01 PM
What a fun thread.

Anyway, stuff that I think shouldn't be in FF again:

The salary system. 8. It was really annoying having that as the only real source of income. Wouldn't be bad if you could get gil in other ways though.

Trance. 9. Whilst playing a large part in the plot, it was rather annoying to lose your trance at the end of a battle, or in a simple random encounter before a boss.

Jolts
08-18-2004, 08:05 PM
Trance. 9. Whilst playing a large part in the plot, it was rather annoying to lose your trance at the end of a battle, or in a simple random encounter before a boss.
I second, third, and fourth that :lol:.
Often times I'll get my trance when one of the characters is already set to destroy the last enemy :mad: :lol:.

Snowman
08-18-2004, 11:20 PM
well Heath, some people automatically used it as a chance to bash whole FFs, i just wanted people to share things that put them off differnt aspects of FF's, but it does take a pinch of maturity and a sprinkle of thought. :)

i agree, the trance was i felt, one of the worst uses of specil attacks in an FF, particully garnet, she would keep useing summons untill her bar ran out, but if she actually made a move...her bar ran out. at least with FF8 you could make use of redlineing as a battle tactic.

Point less weapons annoyed me, largely in FF7 when you got a cool looking weapon which seriously crippled your character, or weapons so handicapped there was no reason to use it.

Giga Guess
08-18-2004, 11:41 PM
Trance. 9. Whilst playing a large part in the plot, it was rather annoying to lose your trance at the end of a battle, or in a simple random encounter before a boss.

Agreed. Or if they do, you should be able to hold onto it until you wish to use it. NOTHING is more annoying than getting a trance than beating the enemy (who is invariably pathetically weak, so as to add insult to injury) seconds later.

Snowman
08-18-2004, 11:59 PM
even the limits of FF7 were annoying. at least in eight you could move left to reveal your limit break.

Giga Guess
08-19-2004, 12:13 AM
Yeah. I think FFX had it perfect. A set gauge to see how long until you get a Limit, many triggers to let it grow (Stoic, healer, hero, etc.), and you can save it for as long as you'd like, without having to sacrifice physical attacks.

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 04:11 AM
You think Seymour would understand. If someone wanted to die they would kill themselves. Thats what I dislike about final fantasy x,x-2 villains.

Another FF main villain also decided that life is just pain and futile and needs to be extinguished. no, not Necron, though he believed that too.

his Name was Kefka.

does that mean Kefka sucks? why is that bad anyway? its a fantastic reason when coupled with an emotional reason for this perspective Seymours Mothers death . The point was ppl r either too scared of death or dont recognise the pain and futility of life. he decided to take it upon himself to *Heal* them. of course no one has the right 2 decide this, and that is why he is a bad guy.

Anyway ,i want FF main villains to have character development *Sephiroth, Kefka,Kuja,Seymour,Golbez*

i dont want villains that just laugh and are evil for no reason *Emperor,X-death,Ultimecia*

ohh and it MUST have a world map u can move on. thats the main thing that sucked in ffX.

nik0tine
08-19-2004, 05:13 AM
Three things that should never be in an FF again: Yuna, Rikku, Paine.

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 06:17 AM
lol they wont, though i actually really liked them :love:. and not just cause there hot.

also, while i did like junctioning and sphere grid, i dont want a non level up FF game. i like getting to lv 99.

though at the end of it all i dont really care what they do. the only thing i wont tolerate is if its boring. even if its as crap as ffX-2, as long as i can have enjoyment from it, i will buy it.

Lon611
08-19-2004, 07:06 AM
wat if they took all the mini games that we're really great and somehow tied them in 2gether in the same ff. which would you play the most????

4 me, i don't really know. playing blitzball wasn't nearly as fun as it seemed in the zanarkand fmv. still fun tho. :D. i'd still probably play another mini game.

Oh, quick question. du ff I-VI hav a mini game?that may seem like the stupidest question ever, but i havent played I-IV and haven't gotten far in V. i haven't beaten Vi, but im at the end of the world and it doesntlook like it.

And no more "this makes the main charcter not what he seems". amnesia. genome. a dream. i think tidus being a dream was the best. but lets have it done to one of the supporting cast, so it's not just the main characters ur focused on :D . or wat if the same thing happend 2 more than just one main character, u kno, so u could get different reactions?

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 07:11 AM
well to be honest mini games have never really pulled me.

i liked the ffVIII card game. However, i,d play ffVII bike rider the most. that rocked! snow boarding was class too though.

Jolts
08-19-2004, 07:13 AM
I liked the FFVII submarine mini-game too.

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 07:33 AM
yeah that was sweet. at first i was awful though. had 2 get a friend 2 do it. but now i can do it in seconds.

also Sphere Break was the only mini-game in ffX-2 worth anything.

and how could i forget ffVII Chocobo racing??? thats the best sub game ever!! i could play all day...

Jolts
08-19-2004, 07:43 AM
FFVII's Chocobo Racing was fun, but once you played the game Cocobo Racing, FFVII's version is never quite the same.

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 07:53 AM
IS chocbo racing as bad as i heard then??? :(

Jolts
08-19-2004, 07:58 AM
...uh...actually, I thought it was friggin' addicting. Who said it was bad?
When I said "FFVII's version is never quite the same," I meant that it's nothing compared to the game dedicated to racing.

Lon611
08-19-2004, 08:03 AM
no more, let's save the universe 2gether. i say, u start off with a simple and easy enemy with your set casts. then a main character gets twisted and becomes a super powerful and evil bad guy bcuz something happens. then you have to stop him/her. at the end of the day (after defeating them), they change their evil ways (no allusion 2 santana intended :cool: )

and no more moogles saying "kupo". it was kewl the first couple games, but COME ON. it sounds like a pokemon 4 gudness sake (tho pokemon was awesome).

"give me kupo nuts, kupo. i'm kupo 4 kupo nuts"
~kupo from ffix~

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 08:10 AM
hmmm, Chocobo racing is better then the ffVII sub game? wow...

i recall ffII did that story line, VERY badly. if done well that could be preety cool.

well i hope there are no more Kupos, since there has 2 be Voice acting nowadays and hearing Kupo said constantly would get annoying.

ohh, and i want to hear Chocobo pronounced Properly! there not Choke-a-bows!!! :mad2:

Jolts
08-19-2004, 08:15 AM
According to the trailer to Chocobo Dungeon 2, it actually is pronounced "choke-o-bo."

That storyline is somewhat used in Breath Of Fire: Dragon Quarter, but the game sucks, overall (if you've ever played it, you'll know why I say that).

I'm not neccesarily saying Chocobo Racing, the game, is better, because everybody has their own opinions. You now know my opinion. By the way, the trailer to Chocobo Dungeon 2 is on the Chocobo Racing disc ;).

Lon611
08-19-2004, 08:21 AM
no more bad voice actors. i kno that;s hard to do when square is choosing, but i think the voice actor of yuna proves my point. in no way is she bad, she's great, but at times, okay often, she sounded like she was reading from the script. i thought the rest of the cast did a great job, especially auron and wakka. and i luv ffx, but there's GOT 2b a way to fix the lip syncing *i hate the dictionary*. it's the same as badly dubbed movies where the lips keep moving but there's no more sound, or vice-versa.

aeris2001x2
08-19-2004, 08:25 AM
I REALLY wish i could get ff tactics in uk so i could decide if it is better then ffVII. :)

well i hate the choke way of saying it. so even if its said that way offically, it sounds silly imho, and i wont accept it. another thing voices tries to do is destroy how you say the names. i tend to stick with whst sounds cool :cool:

Jolts
08-19-2004, 08:29 AM
Yeah, I liked Auron's voice too. I like the way he yells in that "addrenaline rush" way before fighting Yunalesca.
As for the lip syncing...yeah, Kingdom Hearts' voices were in sync with lip movement, why could FFX's be also? So they'd have to redo the animations, I know I'd be willing to wait for that.


another thing voices tries to do is destroy how you say the names
Yeah, like Wakka, in Kingdom Hearts, pronounce Tidus as "teedus." That annoyed the piss out of me (didn't wanna' say the 's' word).

Lon611
08-19-2004, 08:36 AM
no more akward moments that make you shake your head. when the casts falls in luv with faris in FFIV bcuz they find out she's a woman, that;s okay bcuz it's funny. but in ffx when a 1000 yr old woman (yunalesca) comes down in a thong and surprisingly firm knockers, than that's kinda of insane. don't ko if spoiler tabs were necessary, lol. although she looks great, no problems there, just extremely akward...also, tidus's laughing comes 2 mind.

yuna:"okay, maybe you shouldn't laugh again"

ne1 remember that in luca?i luv ffx, but yuna was dead rite, lol.

i apologize 4 my childishness if it's offensive. it gets the better of me sometimes. : :greenie:

Snowman
08-19-2004, 11:55 AM
yeah FFX did have a good beat on limit breaks. But i hated teh over the top oriental feel

i think your user name says it all nikOtine lol....but i enjoyed RikkuX2, the thif was for once i nice design in FF, tho i agree about yuna and paine.

thats something i NEVER want to see again, shapeless women.....women have breasts, they have hips, thighs etc....i dont fancy little boys, i fancy women, so lets have more of them please

an ex pal of mine was defeated by FF8 because of cerberus. he couldnt get past him. when i came to lend a hand i discoverd he had made on the the worst FF teams of all time....and i STILL beat cerberus with them.

real voices....i didnt take well to them. however, sexy female chocobo knights wearing very little was an interesting twist lol

SPOILERS annoy me. ive played all the games but this whole page has become a mess due to the word spoiler appearing over everyones posts so i have no idea what people are reffering to.

Super Christ
08-19-2004, 03:30 PM
Oh, quick question. du ff I-VI hav a mini game?that may seem like the stupidest question ever, but i havent played I-IV and haven't gotten far in V. i haven't beaten Vi, but im at the end of the world and it doesntlook like it.
FF1 does. It's a number puzzle thingy you gan do for money. You do it on the boat, I think.

Ah, here (http://www.planetnintendo.com/ff1/secrets.shtml) it is. Top one on the page. Nothing very exciting at all, really.

DJZen
08-19-2004, 08:02 PM
I liked the FF1 mini game because it felt so OPTIONAL to completely dominating the game. In fact, there's definitely people out there who actually FROWN on playing the mini game just because it takes a lot of the challenge out of certain parts of the game. Does ANYONE actually FROWN on Racing Chocobos? What about beating Omega Weapon? Don't get me wrong, I like super bosses, they're fun, but it annoys me that most of the best stuff in the game can only be obtained through some weird sub-quest that would never ever occur to you if you didn't read the list of sub-quests on gamefaqs.com.

Snowman
08-19-2004, 08:37 PM
yeah...i hate that you would never know how to do or consider doing so many things that are only evident in guides

Ryth
11-06-2004, 09:53 PM
Killing off main characters.
Wimpy main characters (FFX)
Girly main characters (FFIX, FFXII)
Trance happening as soon as the bar fills up it should work like FFX's overdrive it can be saved for another battle.

theundeadhero
11-07-2004, 12:49 AM
The level u psystem in FF2 should never be used again. Sure it's different but there was nothing wrong with the old one. Too many main characters dying is bad. I don't want the dying to end, but not so many of them. With random battles I think their should be less of them but have them worth more exp. I hate fighting every 2-3 steps. It starts to piss you off after so many years. The overly used cliched characters got to go. Wimpy and out of nowhere final bosses shouldn't happen again. I'm not so much against voice acting but I hate the way they butcher names sometimes. I always just go with what sounds cool over how it's spelled and often while reading the script I'll rewrite what's being said in my head to make it sound cooler or have more sense. It says the same idea but I like it better. I HATE mandatory mini-games. Most of the time I can't stand the game and even if I do like it I want it to be optional. No more Charlies Angels/Girl Power games either.

Black Roses
11-07-2004, 06:50 PM
i personally liked random battles...yes i am strange...
i hate how in nine the how you can't hold back the trance move... but i personally loved 9 alot
i kinda would like to see it w/ voice actors...
but ne ways...crystal cronicles?...square i know you know you could've done better....

Trumpet Thief
11-07-2004, 07:04 PM
chaos: *Feels like returning back to this thread*

Rubedo: But first, I'm going to mention some things that I do want to see more of in a Final Fantasy game. For one, limitbreaks/overdrives having a large role to play with the story, rather than something that only occurs in battles. I remember when I first played FFIX, and after I could partially see Vivi go into trance mode on the airship, I tingled with anticipation. Seeing Kuja destroy Terra by shooting Ultima all around him was spectacular as well, as he only had access to that move once he entered Trance.

Trowa: As for what we don't want to see... there were quite a few things. Random Battles occuring way more, and entering the battle screen more slowly is what I am talking about. I don't know how many times we have complained about not having on-screen enemies, but oh well, that is only a minor flaw as when you are trying to level up excessively, you will be glad that you can enter a battle very quickly... Yeah... *Sits and stares and sits and stares and sits and stares*

chaos: In FFVIII, I didn't like the salary system either. Sure it made a game more realistic, but then again, this is fantasy. It might not have made sense to see money spewing out of corpses of dead monsters, yet, I found it the only way I"d get loads of money. In FFVIII, I completely detested raising my SeeD rank, considering after a few minutes, it would go down.

Albedo: *laughs maniacally* This one should count too, considering it angered all of us for a long, long time. In FFX, the tedious tasks you required to complete in order to get the Ultima Weapons. Lulu's Onion Knight being one of them. Dodging 200 lightning bolts? If you slip once, it's game over. Same goes with Tidus' Chocobo training thing... Truly annoying.... *laughs maniacally*

Remnant
11-08-2004, 01:14 AM
Never ever ever ever have a cutisie child hero character. Relm, Gau, Cara, etc. Especially the latter. I was very annoyed when my party gets floored by a baddie, and she prances into the room and knocks him down with a BOLT spell.

Random battles just need some kind of minimum time between them. Two steps his just very obnoxious- you're crossing a room to get to a chest- BAM! random battle.. ok, that is to be expected, but now I can reach the BAM! ok damn... that was annoyiBAM!

No more online games that fall in the standard numerical sequence.

If at all possible, a removal of cheese-victory techniques. But this may be the fevered dream of a madman.

Strawberry_Mew
11-09-2004, 09:28 AM
Random Battles are not that bad...it helps alot in leveling up aka Yuna in X-
The things that should never come back are:

X-Auto Life on the final boss.....you work so hard at getting there and well don't need to say more...
X-2.....monkey breeding mini game...how does that help you....... at all.
IX-Trance just to soon before boss....
X-2..Gunners Gaunlet mini game....I hated re-doing it with my record
VII-No good place to level up...
IX- so what is this Crystal thing you keep saying.... and who is Necron. I thought Kuja was the bad guy..lol

Over all thats it but I am still a Die Hard FF Fan n_n

One winged angel of death
11-10-2004, 07:07 PM
where the vixen of the group dies.....(FF7's Aerith)....she shouldn't have died....she annoyed Tifa...when she died who would annoy Tifa??? and get into fights over cloud (main character, etc.) IT'S NOT RIGHT!!! :(

Cleric
11-12-2004, 07:15 PM
FFX-Sphere Grid. I could never get those level 4 key spheres, and it was so hard to get to the abilities that i wanted.
FFIX-Having 2 white mages. God i had a hard time choosing which one i would use every time i played. I mean garnet had the more summonings, buy eiko had better spells.

theundeadhero
11-12-2004, 09:32 PM
where the vixen of the group diesPoor Vixen, why can't it ever be Comet or Cupid?

One winged angel of death
11-13-2004, 09:00 PM
not the reindeer.....the person* *aeris(aerith)