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Ouch!
08-27-2004, 12:36 AM
Randomly, someone, most likely a newbie, will post in a thread that has been dead for an extended amount of time. As we all know, this is a thread revival and is usually closed right away, if the time between the last two posts is significant.

Now, I can understand somebody reviving something from the first page. It's still up there, and if you're not paying attention to the dates, it's easy to think that it's still somewhat active.

But I ask you, when someone revives a thread that's over half a year old (I just actually saw one that hadn't been updated for ten months) how do they manage it?

Do newbies know that this sort of behaviour is not looked well upon, but use their excuse of newbness to revive it anyways? Or do they simply not know what they're doing? I don't know about you, but I don't view threads that are farther than half way down the page (unless it's GC where you get a lot of traffic.) I barely ever touch the second page.

Threads that pop up a year later have to have been revived from at least the third page. This brings me to the conclusion that those who are responsible for thread revivals are either looking for these threads, or just have a complete lack of common sense.

What do you think?

-N-
08-27-2004, 12:38 AM
There are some people who think its funny, and keep doing it, or some people who try and make it "their thing" and keep doing it. It's a pain in the ass, really. Unless it's the FFV forum, because that stuff is so old it smells.

Rase
08-27-2004, 12:40 AM
I think that a lot of them honestly don't reilize(sp?) it, most likely because they haven't been in a forum ever before.

On a sidenote, how long is it before a thread is considered "dead"? 3 months, 6 months, what?

Thunday Man
08-27-2004, 12:40 AM
Some are just ignorant. They dont know any better. Not a knock or flame against them or anything. Maybe people did a search on a topic they were about to post, and they found it and posted in it, but it happens to be really old. Mistakes happen.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 12:46 AM
yah...hehehe. :D no, i don't do that, lol. i think i've been here long enough.

but i always wondered:how/why do some threads get "locked"?

-N-
08-27-2004, 12:51 AM
Mods or Admins can close them - usually if the thread becomes inappropriate, dead and someone revives it, or spam-filled (my favorite :D). I consider a thread dead after two weeks, m'self.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 12:54 AM
inappropriate like...getting off topic or like, you need to be over 18?, lol

if they're so inappropriate, why can u still access them (i think)?

Ouch!
08-27-2004, 12:57 AM
If they're too inappropriate for viewing, they'll be deleted. For the other reasons they'll just be closed. Inappropriate behavior such as flaming will get a thread closed, but not always deleted.

I have to agree with princeofdarknez so far, I'd think they do it on purpose. I just can't believe that with how often it happens that it's an accident.

kikimm
08-27-2004, 12:59 AM
They probably just don't care. That's why so many of them are getting banned. Because they disregard the rules. This is in my opinion, though.



:D

TasteyPies
08-27-2004, 01:00 AM
inappropriate like...getting off topic or like, you need to be over 18?, lol

if they're so inappropriate, why can u still access them (i think)?

Because anything over 18 is deleted and replaced by a statement from the staff for others to look at so they don't do the same. Thats the only reason I can think of that keeps them from deleting them all together.....future reminder and warning.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 01:02 AM
i don't understand why nebies do it either. like, you see it's from a long time ago, even if reviving it was funny, you'd look like loner considering your answering a dead thread, lol. kids these dayz...

TasteyPies
08-27-2004, 01:05 AM
There is nothing wrong with answering a dead thread as long as the topic is still relevant and gets more replies from other people.

The mods seem to differ on my ideas on that though xD

No I don't remember reviving any old threads.

Logan
08-27-2004, 01:20 AM
They probably just don't care. That's why so many of them are getting banned. Because they disregard the rules. This is in my opinion, though.



:D
Makes sense to me. :)

Del Murder
08-27-2004, 01:48 AM
There is nothing wrong with answering a dead thread as long as the topic is still relevant and gets more replies from other people.
Yes, but there is a statue of limitations on those things. Some forums have a shorter time period. GC gets so much traffic that even a month is too long, but that's just the way it goes.

I think people who revive the old topics don't realize that it is a bad idea. Newer members search the forums they like for interesting topics and when they see one they'll post in it disregarding that it is from september 03 or something. It hasn't become that big of a problem.

TasteyPies
08-27-2004, 02:21 AM
Yes, but there is a statue of limitations on those things. Some forums have a shorter time period. GC gets so much traffic that even a month is too long, but that's just the way it goes.

....why?

Why is a month too long? Why can't a topic keep going after death if it is fun and reasonable.

Del Murder
08-27-2004, 02:41 AM
That question deserves an answer. I've never been too thrilled with the policy, but I remember it being explained enough somewhere that I was satisfied. I'll try to find it for you, or maybe another staff member can recite it.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 02:55 AM
ok, this is going to be THE dumbest question ever, but how exactly du u become a staff member?i kno im probably going 2 get yelled at and redirected somewhere in the rules (cuz i've seen it b4) but i don;t know how exactly ppl get chosen.

maturity?being at the forums for a long time?cpu whiz?gives good advice?i would like to be a staff member..... :mad: , lol

Del Murder
08-27-2004, 02:58 AM
maturity?being at the forums for a long time?cpu whiz?gives good advice?i would like to be a staff member..... :mad: , lol
More or less. Good typing helps too.

Pies: <a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=49105">This</a> may help.

TasteyPies
08-27-2004, 03:01 AM
Del, I wouldn't mind reviving this (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=46813&highlight=scan) because I realy wanted to post in it. My scanner was broken and I finaly fixed it.

Edit: So, basicly if I want to post my hand I should make a THIRD topic about it instead of just using the old one? I dunno...that doesn't make sense to me.

Dingo Jellybean
08-27-2004, 03:04 AM
I never really mind if someone brings back an old topic. It actually saves server space to bring up an old topic rather than make a new redundant one.

I never hold it against anyone if they bring back a topic that's even a year old, I never understood why people would get so angry about that. Oh well.

Yamaneko
08-27-2004, 03:18 AM
Threads would never die if we allowed that. There would be hundreds of ongoing topics in GC. My head would explode before Unne's did. I say close them and that's what I'm going to do.
Also, why the heck are people looking at the twentieth page of General Chat?

Citizen Bleys
08-27-2004, 03:22 AM
I've discovered a wonderful little solution to this problem. Now it's a little unorthodox, but I assure you I've tried it, and it works.

It's called not giving a rat's floppy tonker. If you don't care, it won't bother you.

Del Murder
08-27-2004, 03:35 AM
I think you meant to post in the 'Getting Involved' thread, 'Mark'.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 04:25 AM
hey!i type well, just because i say because "bcuz" doesn't mean ppl (people) can't understand me. gramatically, if you can understand a person verbally, nothing's wrong. then again, we ARE typing. so i apologize. but still, u shouldn't be put down cuz ur manorisms r different than some1 else's. nex post, it's all slang typing!!!lol

War Angel
08-27-2004, 04:44 AM
hey!i type well, just because i say because "bcuz" doesn't mean ppl (people) can't understand me. gramatically, if you can understand a person verbally, nothing's wrong. then again, we ARE typing. so i apologize. but still, u shouldn't be put down cuz ur manorisms r different than some1 else's. nex post, it's all slang typing!!!lolp
True. Just because some people find the notion of typing with their feet or noses amusing, doesn't mean we should think any less of them!

Lon611
08-27-2004, 05:15 AM
ok, dats it, im sik of ppl mokin how i type.from now on, im slang typing. :mad2: if ppl don't undastand da way i type, den 2 bad *gets kikd by staf memba*. i do find typin wit my feet ratha amusin, if i du say so myself. ne1 wan me 2 teach u da ways of slang typing. it's easy:don't think, or be stuk up, lol. i jus kno i made a lot of enemies wit dis post, but i honestly don't find pikin on sum1 very amusin. :mad:

Calliope
08-27-2004, 05:35 AM
I think people who revive the old topics don't realize that it is a bad idea.

I think Amanda will be able to vouch for my notoriety when it comes to reviving old threads, and I seriously don't think it's such a bad idea.

A lot of the time I'll read a thread and it won't apply to me, or I'll have nothing interesting to say in it, and if that thread still happens to be around months later and I can post something tangible in it, why not?

If you don't want people to revive threads, get staff to close/delete them more frequently. There's enough people here.

Meat Puppet
08-27-2004, 06:27 AM
If they have something interesting to say on the topic, why not let them? If they're going to revive it with a smilie yeah, that's bad; but I'm sure there is some situation where they're bored, and reading all the pasts posts and see a thread they like and say "Dang, I wish I was here when that topic was made!" And, to save everyone from re-typing their posts, they save you work by bringing that thread right back.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 06:42 AM
can a "hot" thread be deleted?i don't think it should since it;s so popular, even if it does get outta hand, just due to the fact that its so large, theres a lotta valuable opinions in there. i apologize about my last post, it was in anger...forgiveness is the attribute of the strong, remember?

Del Murder
08-27-2004, 06:52 AM
:)

Those threads don't get deleted, they just get closed. People can still view them.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 06:57 AM
wel thats awesome to hear. oooh and ure a cid's knight right? can i ask you a question about "appropriateness(?)" of an avatar?let's say if tupac was holding two middle finger's up....i don't wanna get in truble, thats why im asking first, cuz i know sumtimes ppl get automatically banned :shame:

Leeza
08-27-2004, 08:11 AM
To answer your question. No. You may not have an avatar with tupac holding two middle fingers up. It not "appropriate". :cat:

Lon611
08-27-2004, 08:22 AM
ok, i understand. but how come some ppl have avatars of hentai chicks, or extremely gruesome monstors?i think lil kids would be more appalled by some hot anime chick then the middle finger. nowadays, lil kids here cursing and think nothing of it.

im not stupid, i understand what's "appropriate". but still. today, that word doesn't stand very tall....just thought id rustle a few leaves before i *yawn* go 2 sleep. tel me watchya think

Leeza
08-27-2004, 08:26 AM
Hentai chicks are fine...up to a point. So far I haven't had to remove any, but maybe I should pay more attention to avs instead of just sigs. :) Middle fingers, however, have a specific meaning, which is not "appropriate". Monsters are just made of cookies. :monster:

Lon611
08-27-2004, 08:36 AM
ah hah. so the truth unfolds. yah, i understand. kinda sux though, that we hav restrictions. b4 u view the forum, there should be like a "parental guidance" or something, instead of having so many restrictions. do you kno how hard it is to find a good (appropriate pic) thats 60x60??!?!either they're good pics, but like 45x70 or sumthing like that, or they're too small to be understood correctly. iuno. I REALY AM SORRY IF IM A NUISANCE. just really bord, and i can't sleep.

neway, bak 2 the topic. how many ppl have you actually banned, becuz it seems like you really have to be a)stupid or b)a misguided youth to be banned here. it's really lienant (?) here.

Leeza
08-27-2004, 08:47 AM
Back to the topic: I close old threads because the members that have posted in them are more than likely not around anymore so it's kind of pointless. If the topic is worthwhile though, a new thread will give fresh input on a subject.

Lon611: Almost any image can be resized to be 60 x 60, but if you don't have the necessary programs yourself (such as Photoshop), you can post in the Avatar thread in the Help Forum and someone would be more than happy to help you out.

I myself haven't banned too many members, but the ones that I did ban were notable. If you go against the major rules, such as posting porn, you will be banned.

Lon611
08-27-2004, 08:54 AM
well, i kno porn's inappropriate. neway, what purpose does it have at this forum neway?none. iuno. i 2 get fed up when ppl don't obey the rules, at or about nething.well thanks 4 answering my quuestions, i didn't know about the help forum. thanks :D

Meat Puppet
08-27-2004, 09:35 AM
The combination of Lon611's avatar and typing style makes me read his posts in an interesting accent inside my head. Very crafty.

m4tt
08-27-2004, 02:54 PM
I close pretty much ever revived thread I see. Unless someone says otherwise.

escobert
08-27-2004, 03:21 PM
The combination of Lon611's avatar and typing style makes me read his posts in an interesting accent inside my head. Very crafty.
Me too :p