NO, WRONG.

[Doomgaze]

EoFF 2004 = TOO NARROW.

[Leeza]

I like it.

[Flying Mullet]

Narrow is good.

That's why the narrow-minded US has Bush as a president.

[Doomgaze]

Maybe for you losers with low resolutions. But for me, it's all wasted space.

[Leeza]

I'm using 1152 X 864 right now and yes, there is a lot of space, but I still like it. :)

If you go any higher though, I agree that it doesn't work very well.

[Big D]

EoFF 2004 = TOO NARROW.Why not change to Fluffy Puff if it's bothering you?

[Leeza]

Oh, please, Big D. Offer some <i>helpful</i> suggestions here. :)

[m4tt]

I use 1600x1200 here at work and it looks fine to me. Of course I never let my browser take over the entire screen.

[escobert]

I dont mind it. I use 1024 x 768.

[Leeza]

Of course I never let my browser take over the entire screen.
Me too. I never use a full screen so this works well for me. In fact I think I will turn it up a notch. :)

[Baloki]

The old styles still going to be avalible so theres no need to explode quite yet :P

[Leeza]

But, Doom likes the new colours.

[Baloki]

But, Doom likes the new colours.

I'm sure we can get BoB to make up a new colour set of it ;)

[Leeza]

Yes. Uh huh. I'm sure. :)

[TasteyPies]

Hmmm, I kind of like the sleek new look. 1024 x 768.

[Yamaneko]

The straight and narrow.

[RSL]

Woah, that's crazy. I don't mind it I guess. Like others mentioned, I don't have my browser taking up the whole screen, and I use 1600x1200. It's fine.

[MoonsEcho]

Looks good to me too. I starting coming here right as all the changes were taking place, so I guess I don't have too much to base it on, but I like the look :)

[eestlinc]

way too narrow.

[Del Murder]

Just stick with old school.

[eestlinc]

well yea, but my potential enjoyment of the eoff 2004 is ruined by the narrowness. we need an eoff fatso skin.

[Doomgaze]

Fat and Brown, like a Cleveland football player. Get on it!

[Del Murder]

well yea, but my potential enjoyment of the eoff 2004 is ruined by the narrowness.
Well, you only have 2 months left of it.

[eestlinc]

then everyone gets BANNED!!!

[Yamaneko]

Guys, the new craze going around the Final Fantasy sites is a narrow table filled with a thousand images. We're being left behind here at EoFF. :(

[Doomgaze]

Don't forget obscene amounts of photoshop effects.

[eestlinc]

don't forget lameness either!

[Doomgaze]

Oh, right. Lameness! And merely regurgitating GameFaqs! Get on it!

[Del Murder]

and whining.

[Doomgaze]

...We HAVE that.

[Del Murder]

Wait what was the question?

[Doomgaze]

Favorite pie recipes.

[Del Murder]

Matty Pie!

[m4tt]

:aimkiss:

[Peegee]

OMFG IT'S A NEW STYLE WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME!?!>@$!@4

I want a b forum :(

[Strider]

Oh, lawdy, yeah! It is too narrow.

[Loony BoB]

It's designed to match the frontsite. The frontsite is designed to be viewed in 800x600 resolution. You don't like it, you can kiss your own ass 'cause I don't like the thought of people kissing mine. It's not going to be made any less narrow. There are two and a half other styles that you're free to use. The classic one won't ever be culled and the fluffy pink one is there if you're desperate.

Oh and the new style would look bloody stupid if the width didn't match the banner width.

Oh, and I've been using EoFF 2004 since it was released, since I've been the one updating it. I use a 1600x1200 resolution at work and 1024x768 at home. Oh, yeah - if you want to use EoFF 2004 for the sake of change, I'm assuming you like change - in that case, you might want to try it with the postbit option set to 'Above the post' - I switch between beside and above the post all the time with EoFF 2004 so I can make sure that all settings are working okay, but I've started to get used to 'Above the post' now and it really does suit the narrow style a lot better, at least in my opinion.

I like mince, mince & cheese, steak and steak & cheese pies. Potato-top pie is good too.

[Cid]

I like it a lot. And I use "above the post".

Please realize this will be the default style in a few weeks when it's ready, so set your preference now for the style you want.

[Rostum]

I like the new layout. It's a bit more narrow but hey, very spacious. xD

[Doomgaze]

...Oh, god. I never thought about that. *postbit top ahoy!*


EDIT: That'll do, pig. That'll do.

EDITARA:
3 cups all-purpose flour
Pinch salt
3/4 cup (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, cold, cut in chunks
2 eggs separated, (yolks for the pastry, whites for the glaze)
3 tablespoons ice water, plus more if needed

Caramel Apples:
1 cup sugar, plus 1/4 cup for the top
3 tablespoons water
1/4 cup heavy cream
1/2 cup red wine
1/2 vanilla bean, split and scraped
1 lemon, halved
8 apples (recommended: Granny Smith and Gala)
1 tablespoon flour
1 cinnamon stick, freshly grated
1/4 cup unsalted butter

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.

To make the pastry, combine the flour and salt together in a large bowl. Cut in the chunks of cold butter with a pastry blender, a little at a time, until the dough resembles cornmeal. Add the 2 egg yolks and the ice water, and blend for a second just to pull the dough together and moisten. Be careful not to overwork the dough. Form the dough into a ball, wrap it tightly in plastic wrap, and let it rest in the refrigerator for 1 hour.

While the dough is resting, prepare the filling.

To make the caramel sauce: place the sugar and water in a small pot and cook, stirring constantly, over medium-low heat until the sugar has melted and caramelized, about 10 minutes. Remove the pot from the burner and add the cream and wine slowly. It may bubble and spit, so be careful. When the sauce has calmed down, return it to the flame, add the vanilla bean and heat it slowly, until the wine and caramel are smooth and continue to slowly cook until reduced by half. Remove from the heat and cool until thickened.

Fill a large bowl with cold water and squeeze in the lemon juice. Peel the apples with a paring knife, cut them in half, and remove the core with a melon baller. Put the apple halves in the lemon-water (this will keep them from going brown). Toss the apples with the flour and cinnamon.


Take the dough out of the refrigerator, unwrap the plastic, and cut the ball in half. Rewrap and return 1 of the balls to the refrigerator, until ready for the top crust. Let the dough rest on the counter for 15 minutes so it will be pliable enough to roll out. Using a rolling pin, roll out the dough on a lightly floured surface into a 12-inch circle. Carefully roll the dough up onto the pin and lay it inside a 10-inch glass pie pan. Press the dough into the pan so it fits tightly.

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.
Slice a couple of the apples at a time using a mandolin or a very sharp knife. The apples need to be thinly sliced so that as the pie bakes, they collapse on top of each other with no air pockets. This makes a dense, meaty apple pie. Cover the bottom of the pastry with a layer of apples, shingling the slices so there are no gaps. Ladle about 2 ounces of the cooled red wine caramel sauce evenly over the apple slices. Repeat the layers, until the pie is slightly overfilled and domed on the top; the apples will shrink down as the pie cooks. Top the apples with pieces of the butter.

Now, roll out the other ball of dough just as you did the first. Brush the bottom lip of the pie pastry with a little beaten egg white to form a seal. Place the pastry circle on top of the pie, and using some kitchen scissors, trim off the overhanging excess from around the pie. Crimp the edges of dough together with your fingers to make a tight seal. Cut slits in the top of the pie so steam can escape while baking. Place the pie on a sheet tray and tent it with a piece of aluminum foil, so the crust does not cook faster than the apples.

Bake the caramel apple pie for 25 minutes on the middle rack. In a small bowl, combine the remaining 1/4 cup of sugar with the freshly grated cinnamon. Remove the foil from the pie and brush the top with the remaining egg white. Sprinkle evenly with the cinnamon sugar and return to the oven. Continue to bake for another 25 minutes, until the pie is golden and bubbling. Let the apple pie rest at room temperature for at least 1 hour to allow the fruit pectin to gel and set; otherwise the pie will fall apart when you cut into it.

[m4tt]

One thing I've noticed: certain signatures are taller because of the slimness of the new theme.

[Loony BoB]

Hmm, yeah. Good point.

[Dr Unne]

Please no one delete the old layout, I plan to use it forever.

[Loony BoB]

I can't see the old style ever, ever disappearing. I think I'll probably go back to it once I'm done with the current style. Actually I'll probably change back and forth... I like having a change that isn't either blinding or pink.

[Citizen Bleys]

Please no one delete the old layout, I plan to use it forever.

Hear, hear.

And that goes for the front site, too.

[Samuraid]

The front site is currently not skinnable...but that could change. :D

Yeah, the old layout is wider and less squished = good. The new layout looks nice, but with regard to easy of use, the old layout takes the cake.

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

I miss ed's technicolor nightmare. :(

[Citizen Bleys]

Drugs are bad, Spliff.

[-N-]

Holy crap Fluffy Puff is freaking awesome!

[escobert]

Neel you just figured that out!?wtf /action kicks

[Agent Proto]

Well, now we have a slimmer look for EoFF, maybe it's important to point out the width limit for signatures so they don't stretch the table in the new style.

[Citizen Bleys]

Bah, best to be more laissez-faire

[Yamaneko]

Thanks to laissez-faire we have Microsoft.

[Loony BoB]

I don't even know what lassy fairy (or whatever) means. :(

[Agent Proto]

It's the art of doing nothing and letting things go their way.

Think of it like this. You're the leader. There's several ways to lead. There's the one where everything must go your way. There's the one where you get everyone to vote on what to do. Then there's the one where you let the people do their own thing, and you just sit back and watch.

[Del Murder]

It's lazy <i>and</i> fair!

[Linus]

But it's also French.

[Citizen Bleys]

Laissez-faire is different from anarchy. It means you only intervene when it's a matter of substance, rather than bogging down everything with rules and regulations until that which is being lead grinds to a halt. It's the opposite of a police state.

Total laissez-faire is, of course, a fool's gambit. But as matters stand, things are fine. If it ain't broke...

[eestlinc]

...break it, obviously

[Citizen Bleys]

That seems to be the standard MB philosophy, doesn't it?

[eestlinc]

Yes, everyone seems to have missed the "leave well enough alone" lesson. Just because you have the power to change things doesn't mean you should do it every chance you get.

[Loony BoB]

So... we're talking about sigs, right? I'm so confused. I wasn't aware anything had been broken.

[Citizen Bleys]

That's because nothing is broken.

[Agent Proto]

I'm house broken. :D

[Yamaneko]

I think we should get The Man back to ask for hacks again.

[Del Murder]

'ask'?

[Loony BoB]

That's because nothing is broken.
Now I'm even more confused! Hold me, Bleys. *clings*

[Citizen Bleys]

BoB, get your face out of my crotch, I'll kill you.

[Yamaneko]

And you snap at us whenever we mention your crotch, why?

[Citizen Bleys]

This wasn't a reference to the old, dead joke, but something new entirely

[Yamaneko]

Oh, ok. I'll make an announcement stating that kicking you in the crotch region is old. And that the new craze is sticking one's face in your crotch region. SUPER!

[Del Murder]

And that the new craze is sticking one's face in your crotch region. SUPER!
He wishes.

[Citizen Bleys]

It's not an attempt to start a new trend. It's a one-liner, which -- as is best for one-liners -- should be used once. That's why it's called a one-liner. Or at least that should be why.

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

Cram it, Bleys.

[Loony BoB]

BoB, get your face out of my crotch, I'll kill you.
*notes the lack of 'or'*