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Shoeberto
11-22-2004, 01:31 AM
I'm assuming it's running on SHOUTcast, yes?

I was thinking that it could be improved with DJs or some sort of radio show. Like, maybe even just a weekly show with different DJs playing their own music, or show like that with a bunch of DJs just discussing stuff or taking requests from the chat room. If you've ever listened to Suprnova Radio, something like Schizo Hour would be cool (except toned down a bit, so it's more PG or PG-13).

Yeah. Just suggestions. I have a chem test to study for. I am outie-5000.

Yamaneko
11-22-2004, 01:34 AM
I definitely agree with this idea.

eestlinc
11-22-2004, 03:18 AM
what?

Cid
11-22-2004, 03:52 AM
It's not shoutcast. It's eyesonff-run.

crono_logical
11-22-2004, 11:19 AM
What's the software being used though?

I didn't even know there was a radio, actually :p

Shoeberto
11-22-2004, 02:41 PM
I was wondering if it was or not. Is it streaming or does it just load the MP3s completely before playing?

Cid
11-22-2004, 04:52 PM
It just loads the mp3 before playing.

Shoeberto
11-22-2004, 08:45 PM
With concerns of bandwidth in mind, I'd recommend setting up SHOUTcast. It's open source and I don't think it's too difficult to set up. (I've only experimented with it a little.) Having people download the MP3s alienates some of the narrowband users from listening, as well as eats up site bandwidth more than what streaming it would do.

Samuraid
11-23-2004, 09:53 AM
Shoutcast works...but it requires you to run the software on your server. Ultimately it uses the same bandwidth as a M3U playlist. (except that MP3s are read-ahead buffered with M3U files, as opposed to being streamed with shoutcast)

http://www.shoutcast.com/download/files.phtml
They have a linux version that theoretically would work with this server. It would probably depend on what form of control/administration it uses. Assuming it uses a GUI, I doubt a dedicated linux server has an X environment active/installed and is running in anything higher than runlevel 3.

The advantage of course is that Shoutcast operates like a true streaming radio...

EDIT: I just downloaded the tarball, and the shoutcast server looks like a simple elf binary and a configuration file...it looks like it would work.

Shoeberto
11-23-2004, 03:25 PM
Shoutcast works...but it requires you to run the software on your server. Ultimately it uses the same bandwidth as a M3U playlist. (except that MP3s are read-ahead buffered with M3U files, as opposed to being streamed with shoutcast)

Really? Well, I guess you could lower the bandwidth by having a lower stream, like 64KBPS rather than having everyone download the higher bitrate MP3s. I guess the most apparant advantage then would be that by streaming, it allows the dial-up users to listen to it.

The only problem I could see arising with Shoutcast on the server is if the MP3s were to be running all the time, and if the server doesn't have an X server running, either a) a command line player that could use the Shoutcast plugin would need to be used or b) a seperate computer would need to be used as the dedicated MP3 player, which wouldn't be difficult to set up.

Samuraid
11-23-2004, 07:54 PM
either a) a command line player that could use the Shoutcast plugin would need to be used or b) a seperate computer would need to be used as the dedicated MP3 player, which wouldn't be difficult to set up.

It looks like the Linux version of the shoutcast server is a command line application, so it theoretically would work. Whether or not it is the best solution for EOFF is up to the powers that be. :p

As for setting up a dedicated box: eyesonff.com is on a dedicated server at theplanet.com (run and whois (http://whois.sc/eyesonff.com) and see :D ) so adding a second machine just to run shoutcast would not be an easy task. (Very costly too) It would be possible to run shoutcast from a personal computer hooked to broadband, but that would really drain the upstream bandwidth and one would only be able to handle maybe 20 listeners at a time.

Shoeberto
11-23-2004, 09:01 PM
I didn't mean a dedicated server for running Shoutcast, I meant one for playing the MP3s across the Shoutcast server using the Shoutcast client. That way, the Shoutcast server could be running on EoFF's dedicated server and handling the connection, with the client-end streaming to the server and relaying to the listeners.

I think that would work...it's been a while since I've done anything involving Shoutcast.

Samuraid
11-23-2004, 11:37 PM
That would work, but shoutcast doesn't require a client to be playing music, it can run standalone on a server by playing random mp3s stored in a directory on the server.

Shoeberto
11-24-2004, 01:33 AM
Ah. That would work.

And after that we could return back to square one with the original suggestion. It's kind of funny how we've planned all of this stuff out without any input from the webmaster.

Zell's Fists of Fury
11-24-2004, 02:56 AM
HOLY <img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/lovesmile.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/lovesmile.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/lovesmile.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/lovesmile.gif> I WANT TO BE A DJ

Shoeberto
11-24-2004, 03:35 AM
Screw you. My idea. I get to be Handsome Dan.

Aww, okay, you can be Mr. Scream.

Doomgaze
11-25-2004, 08:11 AM
Clearly Linus should be the DJ.

Roogle
11-25-2004, 08:30 AM
If we had a DJ, it'd have to be someone that has a lot of time... :love:

Loony BoB
11-25-2004, 01:48 PM
I'd imagine that if we were to rely on DJ's, we'd have more than one, let alone more than three. I agree with Doomy about Linus and think that anyone else would also be a bonus.

Shoeberto
11-25-2004, 06:51 PM
Well, like I said originally, it wouldn't even have to be full time. It could be just a few hours out of the night of the person playing requests from their own list, with the rest of the day being random FF songs off the server.

And yeah, definately more than one DJ. Like, a ton that rotate hours. Suprnova Radio does that and it seems to work out good.

Yamaneko
11-25-2004, 07:50 PM
So it's decided, Josh will be the official DJ. Anyone want to tell him? :D