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Gau Dude
01-27-2005, 12:44 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I'm from Israel, And I started to play FF on the summer.
I've played FF1, FF2 and FF3 looked too much the same type of FF1, and even when I played FF1 I've started to get bored.
When I started playing FF4, I was thinking I've finally the perfect game. I was wrong, it has too many Deanguens. I didn't play FF5, I have no idea why.
When I played FF6, I understanded: Finally- IT IS A PERFECT GAME.
And now for the real question:
I know you all hate Ultros. Everybody does.
Now I'm in the opera. Yesterday, Somebody shot me and accidently I've choosed just Sabin together with Locke and Celes.
Well, not really. I'm just stupid. I could take Locke, Cyan, Gau and Cyan, but NOOOOOO!!!
And the biggest problem is: I'm using ZSNESW to play the game on PC. And I don't know where to change the game keys. I mean, I'm in the opera with Sabin (In lever 15) and I didn't used AuraBolt even once!
Help me: what keys I have to press in ZSNESW to use AuraBolt or any other Blitz?
Thank you!
Braindead_Paul
01-27-2005, 02:48 PM
You can change the keys in znesw's menu (config -> Input #1).
To find out how to use Sabin's Blitzes just check his Skills-menu. If you don't have a gamepad, you should use the alternative inputs (press the previous direction twice instead of a diagonal direction, e.g. down, down, left, A instead of down, down-left, left A).
btw: I love Ultros!
Gau Dude
01-27-2005, 03:21 PM
Thank you very much, you've reallu helped me, but...
AuraBolt is still not working. I set the DL key to + key, but it just dosen't work.
WHY???
Braindead_Paul
01-27-2005, 04:13 PM
Just don't use diagonals. You don't even have to set keys for them.
To use AuraBolt (the "hard" way) press down, down and left at the same time, release down, release left, press A.
The easy way is to press down, down, left, A.
I highly recommend to use the easier combinations without diagonals (see my previous post) as you're using a keyboard.
Gau Dude
01-27-2005, 04:53 PM
OK, NOW I've got it!
I just hope I will beat Ultros soon. I just realized.. Ultros isn't stupid and silly, he just have too much STYLE!
So we all love Ultros, don't we?
A little edit: Something I love about Ultros, is that you have to think about a strategy, and to think about a good one. Well, I can't think about one. Actually, I can. But it's never work.
I have Sabin, Locke, Celes (But she's not in the battle..) and two espers: Ramuh and Siren.
Could somebody PLEASE help me?
Braindead_Paul
01-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Why do you only have 2 Espers? You should have 4 at that point.
The best strategy is to equip Sabin with the Fire Knuckle and try to hit Ultros from behind. His second weakness is Bolt, so summoning Ramuh might help.
If you've missed the Fire Knuckle in Zozo (get it now or) use Sabin's Aura Bolt and give the Genji Glove to Locke which will make him attack twice or let him summon Ramuh or cast Bolt!
If it's too difficult with two characters (which it shouldn't be...), just load an earlier savegame or let Ultros drop that weight (don't worry, you'll get another try!) which will also make you leave the Opera House. Go back to Narshe and get another Character or go to Kohlingen and get Shadow (if he's still there...) who will join you for 3000GP if you don't have 4 characters in your party.
Strider
01-27-2005, 07:24 PM
I like to use the 10-key, personally. Just coordinate the numbers with the obvious direction, and it's Blitzing made easy.
Oh, yeah, and depending on what level you're at, it'd be even better to use Fire Dance against Ultros, if you have it.
Gau Dude
01-28-2005, 05:18 AM
I'm sure I tooked all the espers, but they arent there! I have just one Fenix Down, and Celes alone can't get to Jidoor! What am I suppost to do?
And if I remember correctly, I choosed Cyan too. Now that I remember, I'm SURE Cyan was in my team. What the heck happend here?
Strider
01-28-2005, 07:10 AM
If you have a lot of Tinctures, use 'em. To change party members, you've gotta hike all the way back to Narshe.
Braindead_Paul
01-28-2005, 08:31 AM
If you took the Espers you should have them. You get Ramuh, Kirin, Stray and Siren in Zozo. I've played this part two days ago so I'm pretty sure about it. Anyway they're hard to miss so something might be wrong with your rom or whatever...
What do you mean saying "Celes alone can't get to Jidoor"? Why is she alone? And why can't she go back there?
I recommend going back to Jidoor (it's not that far - 2 enemy encounters max. and you can run away). There you can buy some Phoenix Downs and get a Chocobo to ride back to Kohlingen where you can get Shadow or to Figaro Castle which brings you back to Narshe.
Flashback007
01-28-2005, 08:47 AM
If you have a lot of Tinctures, use 'em. To change party members, you've gotta hike all the way back to Narshe.
Don't you have to go back to Zozo, then?? I think that was it. If so, go and get Edgar or Gau, they probarly have good powers against Ultros. Including some thunder-spells and the awesome crossbow.
Gau Dude
01-28-2005, 09:54 AM
I meant that I saved beafore fighting Ultros, and I can get back to the opera entrence only when they die. I don't have any Fenix Down, so I can't go to jidoor to get a chocobo just with celes.
Oh, and I'm preety sure I tooked ALL the espers, and I preety sure I went to Jidoor with Celes, Locke, Sabin AND Cyan.
any chance of a bug?
I try'd to go back into Zozo and change my party members, but they aren't there anymore.
Can I find them anywhere?
Braindead_Paul
01-28-2005, 11:36 AM
You will only have one or two enemy encounters on your way back to Jidoor. And you can run away. So it's no problem to go there with only one character. By the way if you just stand there and wait until Ultros drops the weight, you can leave the Opera House without losing one single HP. So you can go back with all your characters.
I'm not sure where your party members are. But I'm quite sure they do not stay at Zozo. Try looking at Narshe. You really should have four party members before finishing the Opera House because you won't have the chance to change your party for quite a long time...
I still wonder what happend to your Espers. Maybe actually a bug...
Gau Dude
01-28-2005, 12:29 PM
Oh my.
I'm F***ING dead. After the fight with Ultros, Locke and Sabin are wounded, and I don't have any Fenix Down. In the very first battle after Ultros in the enterence to the opera, Celes Dies. I was using just the inn or some chocobos. I didn't buyd any tents.
I didn't find any save point and I buyd a lot of tonics in Kohlingen, and I have no more- That's why I didn't used the inn.
The last Save Point I used was in narsha, beadore choosing teams and fighting Kefke.
Even if I have power to go to Jidoor, I DON'T have the power to go and see if the espers are in Zozo, or go and check if the team is in Narsha.
any idea?..
The Third edit: with a Warp Stone, I made it to Jidoor. now what should I do?
The FOURTH edit: yes, I'm in Narsha. Yes, they're there. Yes, I changed
my team group. the espers are a mystery now. I think I know what happend to them... (continueing in 3 minutes in the same edit)
Nope, the espers are still a Mistery.
I'm going back to the opera. If anyone got any idea what happend to my espers, HELP ME. PLEASE.
Braindead_Paul
01-28-2005, 02:44 PM
Very important thing: You don't need savepoints to save on an emulator. Just press Esc, choose Game -> Save state and press Esc again to return to the game. However, you could consider it cheating...
Did you look for the Espers in Zozo (where you find Terra)? Which ones are missing?
Gau Dude
01-28-2005, 04:02 PM
If I didn't knew tha save stuff, I coulden't get even to the first time in Figaro Castle, I think.
I don't really want to go back to damn Zozo and look for the espers (That I'm sure that I tooked) where Terra is.
I have siren who can't do anything to Ultros, and Ramuh, That can hurt Ultros badly.
Gau Dude
01-29-2005, 12:46 PM
They're just AREN'T THERE!!!
I get all the way back to damn Zozo, fighted those damn creatures, and now there isn't ANY DAMN ESPER!!!
What the heck can I do?!
EDIT: I can't bealive I'm so stupid. Sorry guys, they were in my hand all along, I just was too stupid.
Sorry for bothering you (and myself)- and thanks. You're great, guys.
I'll remember to stay here.
THANKS, EVERYBODY (except myself)!
EVEN MORE THANKS!!!
Ultros hurt me just twice and then runned away. I can't bealive it was SO easy.
THANKS!
Braindead_Paul
01-29-2005, 12:49 PM
Sorry, I don't know what's up with your rom. But something's definitely wrong...
You don't really _need_ Kirin (however, Kirin is the first one to teach you cure) and Stray so if it does not happen again that Espers get lost you could just go on...
Gau Dude
01-29-2005, 01:43 PM
It didn't lost. It was where it was suppost to be, but beacuse I didn't looked I was thinking it was some info about the MP or something of the espers.
I hate my life. Don't you?
Edgar
01-31-2005, 04:28 AM
Just don't use diagonals. You don't even have to set keys for them.
To use AuraBolt (the "hard" way) press down, down and left at the same time, release down, release left, press A.
The easy way is to press down, down, left, A.
I highly recommend to use the easier combinations without diagonals (see my previous post) as you're using a keyboard.
Er actually, this way is the 'easy' way.
Gau Dude
02-01-2005, 07:55 AM
That's bad.
REALLY BAD.
Beacuse we talked here about Ultros, I was thinking it's OK to ask again. Ultros, part 3. HOW THE HECK I CAN BEAT HIM?!?! I have Locke in level 19, Stargo in level 21, and Terra in level 19.
Those are the espers I have:
1. Ramuh: Lightning-elements attack
2. Siren: Silences enemies
3. Ifrit: Fire-elements attack
4. Unicorn: casts Remedy on the party
5. Shoat: petrifies enemies
6. Carbunkl: casts Reflect on the party
7. Kirin: Gradually recovers HP
8. Stray: confuses enemeies
9. Shiva: Ice-elements attack
10. Maduin: Non-elemental attacks
11. Phantom: makes the party invisible
12. Bismark: Water-elements attack
I put everyone in the back row and just use magic and locke's attacks. If Locke has a backrow weapon, it's even better. Use either Strago or Terra to heal, then once Relm comes in have her sketch and thats it.
Braindead_Paul
02-01-2005, 04:22 PM
Use Fire 2 and Bolt 2.
Gau Dude
02-01-2005, 04:31 PM
Already tried.. Dosen't work.
Maybe I have to use a Warp Stone and gain some levels?
Doomgaze
02-01-2005, 05:21 PM
That cave is one of the best places to level in the world, currently. I'd stay there. Just pick up some tents from Thamasa.
feioncastor
02-01-2005, 07:48 PM
Sabin's Blitz tips:
Aurabolt: Down, Left, Left
Fire Dance: Left, Left, Down, Right, Right
Air Blade: Up, Right, Right, Down, Down, Left, Left
Bum Rush: Left, Down, Down, Right, Right, Up, Up, Left
Do not slide on any of those. Just push the buttons very quickly as they're written.
Feion
Braindead_Paul
02-01-2005, 08:35 PM
Sabin's Blitz tips:
Aurabolt: Down, Left, Left
Fire Dance: Left, Left, Down, Right, Right
Air Blade: Up, Right, Right, Down, Down, Left, Left
Bum Rush: Left, Down, Down, Right, Right, Up, Up, Left
Do not slide on any of those. Just push the buttons very quickly as they're written.
Feion
I think Bum Rush is:
l, l, u, u, r, r, d, d, l
By the way it doesn't really seem to matter which direction you press twice.
For example Aura Bolt is down, left, left or down, down, left. At least both combinations work in my version.
Gau Dude
02-02-2005, 11:13 AM
I saved where the statues of espers are. If I'll go down- Ultros will catch me, and a Warp Stone dosen't help. She don't want to get out of the cave.
Any strategy?
(BTW: the last save point I saw was after the Magitek Factory.
Braindead_Paul
02-02-2005, 11:43 AM
It shouldn't be that difficult.
Just put your characters in the back row and attack with Fire 2 and Bolt 2. One character should use Cure 2 on all party members each round if you have to.
You can also equip the Genji Glove if you prefer using physical attacks (of course, this character would have to be in the front row unless you have two back row weapons).
Strider
02-02-2005, 02:04 PM
If you have a Heal Rod, equip Strago with it and smack your own party members to give them life. That way, you don't have to waste magic curing people. The only downside to this, though, is that you can only heal one person at a time.
Gau Dude
02-03-2005, 05:09 AM
So: at the back row use espers of Fire and Bolt, use Locke's Bolt 2, use Terra's Fire, use Stargo's Heal Rod and Fire rod (or Ice Rod if I don't have the fire rod)?
And when Relm jump in use her Sketch?
Sound EASY.
Braindead_Paul
02-03-2005, 02:55 PM
That's it. But you should use Fire 2 instead of Fire and Cure 2 if you have to heal all your characters at once (e.g. after getting hit by Ultros' "Tentacle").
Relm's Sketch should end the battle immediately.
Gau Dude
02-04-2005, 01:09 PM
No one in my team can use Fire 2.. Stargo can use Heal 2 or Cure 2 (Gau too- but he isn't in my party, of curse), and Locke can use Bolt 2, But this is it.
SO.. I didn't undestanded how to use the Heal Rod. Anybody?
Braindead_Paul
02-04-2005, 07:06 PM
SO.. I didn't undestanded how to use the Heal Rod. Anybody?
Select "fight" and choose one of your own characters.
mythus
02-05-2005, 12:13 AM
(BTW: the last save point I saw was after the Magitek Factory.
I may be wrong but it sounds like you are only saving on save points. You can also save on the world map, anywhere on the world map. Just incase you didn't realize this ;)
Gau Dude
02-12-2005, 07:52 AM
Well, NOW I know it.
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