Final Fantasy XIII

[rubicant]

Yes, I said thirteen. I think for FF XIII should detour form the likes of FF XII with it's battle system and setup and got more classical like I-IX.
Does anyone feel the same?

[Ichimonji]

Each Final Fantasy to come out has evolved from its predecessor (With the exception of IX for obvious reasons) and has featured innovative areas of battle which is unlike the last. So, the next Final Fantasy takes the last Final Fantasy and grows on that. I sincerely doubt they'll bring back the ATB system, and if they do it would be extremely different than what we're used to. (Like X-2 for instance.)

I mean, you even saw what happened when Square tried to go back to their roots and make FFIX classical, a lot of people rebelled against it. To answer your question though, no I don't feel the same.

[boris no no]

it'll be nice if it went towards the FFIX and earlier styles. they were the best!
:love:

[Quina]

I love the classical type games. I also think we need more fork-wielders.

[RedCydranth]

I think FF12's system isn't bad... of course none of us have played it to know for sure how good it works in that game. In Xenosaga, it works fine.

Anyhow, I don't think 9 was too bad at all. It didn't get nearly as scrutinized as 8 did for the terrible Junctioning and Draw system has. Sure some love it, some hate it. The same can be said of every game. There are people who hate FF6. To each their own.

FF12 breaks the random battle mold, and I think that fine, but I agree that 13, when it is made, should go back to random battles.

[Mirage]

I think it's a good thing that FF12 doesn't look anything like it's predecessors. In fact, from what I've seen of FF12, it looks like it's going to be the best Final Fantasy game in a very long time. And no, I didn't say the same about 8, 9 and 10 before I played them.
I don't really care if they break away from tehir roots, as long as certain elements stay to make it feel like an FF game. Remember, change is the reason we don't have FF1's battle system, sounds and graphics. It's evolution.

[Hinky the Pickle]

Each Final Fantasy to come out has evolved from its predecessor (With the exception of IX for obvious reasons)

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with that quote. You act like IX didn't innovate the series at all. It had:

- The Ability Equipping System
- Trance (similar to Limit Break, sure, but executed differently)
- Spells being learned from equipment
- Friendly monsters
- Chocographs
- Synthesising

The list goes on. Saying that Final Fantasy IX didn't evolve from its predecessors is like saying cheese tastes like pie.

[crashNUMBERS]

ff9s friendly monsters were gay.

[Mirage]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with that quote. You act like IX didn't innovate the series at all. It had:

- The Ability Equipping System
- Trance (similar to Limit Break, sure, but executed differently)
- Spells being learned from equipment
- Friendly monsters
- Chocographs
- Synthesising

The list goes on. Saying that Final Fantasy IX didn't evolve from its predecessors is like saying cheese tastes like pie.

I'd say FF9 evolved in a different way than the other games. While they in the games prior to FF9 tried to make new and better features, they tried to combine the best from all worlds in FF9. Ofcourse, some parts turned out better than others (trance, anyone? ;[).
Personally, I love changes in the world of Final Fantasy. I like to find out new stuff about each new battle system, and master all the different features when it comes to building your characters. That's a very important part of the game for me.

And crash26821, if you don't have anything more constructive to add to the topic, don't bother clicking that "New Reply" link.

[Mo-Nercy]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with that quote. You act like IX didn't innovate the series at all. It had:

- Spells being learned from equipment
I get the rest but wasn't learning spells from the weapons REALLY overdone at that point in time.

[DJZen]

I can't think of any precedent for it. The most overdone system is simply purchasing spells or learning them "naturally" at specified levels.

[Shoden]

we need more canivorous cannibals and big swords maybe a return of the gunblade and gloves for old time sake even the old fashion wrench

[Ichimonji]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with that quote. You act like IX didn't innovate the series at all. It had:

- The Ability Equipping System
- Trance (similar to Limit Break, sure, but executed differently)
- Spells being learned from equipment
- Friendly monsters
- Chocographs
- Synthesising

The list goes on. Saying that Final Fantasy IX didn't evolve from its predecessors is like saying cheese tastes like pie.

First of all, I never said that FFIX didn't innovate anything to the series. Of course it had some innovative material; if it didn't it would be the exact same game. I'm saying it didn't much evolve from FFVIII. This was done purposely though so FFIX could return to its roots; a tribute to the older generation. Remember FFIX was originally going to be called Final Fantasy Gaiden, but they switched it to an actual numerical sequel because it was created so massive.

Your conclusion didn't support your introduction by the way. In your introduction you were talking about innovative material, and the conclusion gave a bad simile to evolution... So it made no sense. Sure Friendly Monsters, and Chocographs are innovative, so are the graphics, the world, the characters, and so on... But they aren’t evolutions; they're optional mini-games which have no real affect on the mandatory sections of the game.

I'm sorry you were offended by my post, and I was by no means putting FFIX down, it's one of my favourite Final Fantasies. I was just stating the truth in my opinion.

[turnitup5000db]

Ok, guys, lets not get huffy about this. Remember, its a game, and just like with other games, such as chess, monopoly, pin the tail on the donkey, and fun with handcuffs (My personal favorite) there will be differing opinions on execution, style, and even basic premise.

Yes, in some ways FFIX was very revolutionary. For starters, it didn't advance the general technology level, a trend that had been going on since the beginning of final fantasy. Nor did it posess a magic system that was even close to anything previously used, insofar as I have ever heard. Friendly monsters weren't totally innovative, tactics featured them a little bit, but the execution was new. By the same token, it was, in fact, a return to the truly old school, somewhere between ff1 and ffV, which I think was a very smart move on the part of square, but it just didn't turn out right. Sometimes even the best of ideas fail. Personally, my only problem with IX (and I know this is purely personal, so don't flame me) was that THE main character was a thief. THE main character, with 'the' in caps. Part of my attraction to ff has always been a powerful lead character, and when zidane pops into my head, powerful isn't exactly what automatically comes to mind. But, as I say, to each his own.

Anyway, the point is don't get yourselves all worked up over a game. It is, after all, only an escape from real life... (Shudders)... curse you REAL LIFE!!!!!

[SeeDRankLou]

I think they should break it down and give us something entirely different and new, get those innovative gears in motion.

:moomba:

[Takara]

They should make a kickass lead character that is female, for a change, instead or a girlish teenage boy. -_-

[Mirage]

I agree. Swordgirls are much love.

[ShunNakamura]

I would personally prefer some innovations(not sure about hte new battle system guess we'll see).

Basically I like how the characters were in 6. there was no real lead... only time someone was forced in your party was for story... I loved that.. I think that is how it should be. I like the Battle arena in VII and I like how VIII's limits were done. I liked V's job system.... I also like Tactics job system though. I liked how tactics battles were done... other then the fact that they can take forever. With how battles are ingaged I like the Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross way of doing it. Parasite Eve's battle system was fun... but I don't think I would like doing it with multiple characters.... etc...

BTW yes a lead female would be nice... a good lead female. but I still like the no real lead but all are important and could be lead(ok maybe not all but people do debate who the lead of VI is)

[Gunblades]

i would like to see a Summon be the lead, or a cactaur :)

Yes, i do think FF13 should be differnt, it's really the begining of the teens and i would hope would make the differnce 7 did to the serise.

I personally know women who are like Auron (thankfully not living dead tho) AND are excellent sword-fighters. It's about time not only did a mature character take the lead role but a mature Female take it, with a great BIG whopping sword.

i would like things to look exciting, over the top, to make swords and guns a hundred times bigger than they were before (make up a mythical metal that is light), to make summons a lot darker, older and magical along the lines of Mignolas hellboy. I want science and theory crushed under the sudden unrelenting assault of WildMagic and the world taken to the very brink of change.

FF13 - Unlucky for Some

[mythus]

i would like things to look exciting, over the top, to make swords and guns a hundred times bigger than they were before (make up a mythical metal that is light), to make summons a lot darker, older and magical along the lines of Mignolas hellboy. I want science and theory crushed under the sudden unrelenting assault of WildMagic and the world taken to the very brink of change.

That all sounds very familiar... FF6 anyone?

I think they would be hard presed to come up with ideals that are different from what they arleady have dome up with. Any big changes would probably be in the way they present it.


They should make a kickass lead character that is female, for a change, instead or a girlish teenage boy. -_-

Again, This was done before.FF6 centered around two lead women at differnt points in the game, each exstremly powerful in their own right, one being basically a magic powerhouse, the other being an ice-hearted general. The only thing is, the lead could change, as it often did, with the progression of the story.

Seeing as how this all worked so well for FF6, I am all for it!

[black orb]

>>> All I want is the FFX CTB system..
ATB sucks.

[Wilhelm III]

Is it ok if I talk about stuff other than the battle system? I hope they make the feel and style of this one like FFVII. That one had the best background story and designs. But yeah, umm, good battle systems would be nice ^_^

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Here's a little note: Chances are FFXIII will be on PS3

[ReiHino]

Final Fantasy XIII is coming for PS3 but square cut out the number XIII because it's bad luck in north america.
it's going to be called Final Fantasy PS3

[KoShiatar]

They should make a kickass lead character that is female, for a change, instead or a girlish teenage boy. -_-

Hooray for Takara.
She brought up a problem I never thought of but that finds me utterly agreeing.

[squareSOFT]

>>> All I want is the FFX CTB system..
ATB sucks.

The simple truth.

[-N-]

i duno if dis is teh rite place 2 post dis but i m stuck on boss fite w/red dragon help?

[rubah]

Take it to CC forum, neel~

[Slothy]

Personally, I don't want the old stuff back. The day FF stops moving forward and trying new things is the day I get off this crazy train ride. If I want the old style games, I'll go back and play them. Frankly, after well over a decade of playing pretty much every FF ever made, I'm sick of a lot of the older conventions such as ATB and random battles, which is why I'm pretty psyched about FF12. With FF13 I want them to continue bringing us new experiences. If they can mix in some of the old in a way that I haven't seen before, then by all means, but god help them if they bring back random battles.

[Masamune·1600]

There will certainly be different stylistic tendencies between FFXII and FFXIII, as SE has already stated that different development teams will be involved with the creations of the two games. Yoshinori Kisase has suggested, after all, that a Final Fantasy for the PS3 is being developed by some offshoot of the FFX team.

That being said, it's reasonable to expect that FFXIII will continue the overall evolution of the series. It's impossible to really say how this will manifest itself, but you're probably setting yourself up for a letdown if you expect a return to certain so-called classical elements. As to FFXII, I'd be hesitant to be unduly critical or praising of a game that hasn't yet been released. For now, news of FFXII has been encouraging, and I'm hopeful that the game will fulfill my rather high expectations.

[Dreddz]

yea, FFXIII is totally gonna kick balls........

[NeoCracker]

I agree. Swordgirls are much love.

Sword Girls Are Sexy :D

Anyway, I actually don't mind FF old random battles. but it doesn't really matter if they use that or the way they did it in chrono trigger where you saw all the enemies. ATB or CTB doesn't really matter. I would like some new innovations, but not a complete overhaul of the series. I think it would be best to slowly increase innovation as they have been doing, such as 7 to 8, then ten. Do love nine though, it is the second best of them all. Mwahahahahahahahahaha!

[Lawr]

Okay every FF fans worst enemy is a FF7 and FF9 Fanatic because
FF7 8 and 9 shouldnt be counted as FF games they go completely
off the originality of Final Fantasy. Sure theyr called Final Fantasy
so they should be a Fantasy but if theyre all going to be named
the same thing why not keep it on track
So I don't really care about FF13's type but just
don't make it too much like 8 (SeeD wtf?)
or 7 (Reactors in Medieval times?)
or 9 (Everyone acts like a 6 year old)
...thats where I stop
I don't do anything........ :riiight: :sweatdrop :chuckle: :-/ :laughing:

[Dreddz]

Okay every FF fans worst enemy is a FF7 and FF9
but most FF fans are FFVII fanatics...........

[Light Mage]

I'd like there to be a proper "Job" system, like FFI, FFV, FFX-2, etc.

(I'd also like to be able to ceate and customise my own characters, but I don't think that's going to happen in a Final Fantasy game...)

:save:WHITE:save:MAGES:save:RULE!:save:

[Mirage]

Okay every FF fans worst enemy is a FF7 and FF9 Fanatic because
FF7 8 and 9 shouldnt be counted as FF games they go completely
off the originality of Final Fantasy. Sure theyr called Final Fantasy
so they should be a Fantasy but if theyre all going to be named
the same thing why not keep it on track
So I don't really care about FF13's type but just
don't make it too much like 8 (SeeD wtf?)
or 7 (Reactors in Medieval times?)
or 9 (Everyone acts like a 6 year old)
...thats where I stop
I don't do anything........ :riiight: :sweatdrop :chuckle: :-/ :laughing:

Whatever Square Enix calls a Final Fantasy is to be considered a Final Fantasy game. They own the series, not you. The rest of the post is too silly for me to comment on.


Final Fantasy XIII is coming for PS3 but square cut out the number XIII because it's bad luck in north america.
it's going to be called Final Fantasy PS3
This sounds like bullexcrement. Do you have a source for this?

[Light Mage]

What did they call Nanaki in North America then?

[Mirage]

You could change that name if you didn't like it/were superstitious though.

[varnirious]

They should make a kickass lead character that is female, for a change, instead or a girlish teenage boy. -_-

What is with all the woman superheros and shemen. Do any women on this fourm enjoy sissy feminine men? I don't know of to many men wanting to be feminine, im not sexist or trying to be mean to women but come on most men don't want to come home to men:Oo:

I do think they should stop making feminine looking men in FF tho
the lead character in FF12 reminds me of michael jackson:smash:

[DJZen]

Final Fantasy XIII is coming for PS3 but square cut out the number XIII because it's bad luck in north america.
it's going to be called Final Fantasy PS3

Yeah, just like how they cut out FFIV in Japan because IV is the number of bad luck for the Japanese. They totally never ever released a game in Japan called FFIV. Nope. Not once.

[Yuffie514]

there are things i like in each Final Fantasy game (FFVII - FFXI), and things i don't like. but i manage to get along with them, xD. please don't bring back Trance and i really liked more if you left me guessing each character's Job, instead of separating/limiting them or having two White-Mages...