my siggies I made

[Kathryn]

I mades these siggies

[Xander]

They're rather big. xD But cute! ^_^

[Rostum]

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[Mirage]

Are you serious?

[Kathryn]

yes I'm serious I made them

[Necronopticous]

I love them.

Will you make me a signature?

[Kathryn]

yeah send me ssome pictures you want on it

[nik0tine]

Wow... What program are you using to make this? You must have some incredible photoshop skills!

[Necronopticous]

yeah send me ssome pictures you want on it
You can choose the pictures, I'm curious what you can come up with :)

edit:: I made one for you too, what do you think?

[Kathryn]

sick! this one for you

[Necronopticous]

Kathryn, it's excellent! Unfortunately it's a little too big to use as my actual signature, but thank you for making it for me, I am using it as my wallpaper.

[nik0tine]

No offense Necro, but Kathryn's is WAY better than yours.

[Kathryn]

It is sarcasum nik0tine

[nik0tine]

No, it's sarcasm.

[Kathryn]

and you're using sarcasm nik0tine

[Fuzakeru]

And now we all love each other, kthnx.

I think the pictures you used in your sigs are really cute. ^_^-

[Luc]

Umm.. good.. job.

Practice some more, I'm sure you'll be great at it. ^_^

[Kathryn]

ya'know, I'm using paint to create me siggies

[Mirage]

You are? I couldn't tell.

[StarlightAngel]

You are? I couldn't tell.

Now now, no need to be sarcastic.

[Kathryn]

hi everyone!

[Craig]

Hi! Nice siggies :)

[fire_of_avalon]

God bless, why are all of you so mean?

[Leeza]

Good question, foa. Enough with the sarcasm.

[crashNUMBERS]

Wow. They're great kathyrn.

[Rye]

Those are pretty good. Paint doesn't have too many sig option though, so I'd try maybe downloading the trial of PSP7 or Photoshop or if you have the money, you can buy PSP7 for $100. Photoshop is a lot better, but it cost $600. :(

[Kathryn]

seriously I don't like people who are allways sarcastic

[crashNUMBERS]

If its me im not being sarcastic.

[Kathryn]

I know

[Rostum]

To be honest, I don't think they are that good. You could easily just download a trial (or full version if you want to get illegal about things) of Photoshop 7 or Paint Shop Pro.

(No offense, but despite MS Paints crappiness, you CAN do better)

First they are way too big in dimension to have as a signiture, there are way too many blank spaces and random colours, and you've just stuck random images from the net onto them - putting textual quotes that I can't even read.

I agree people shouldn't be sarcastic about it, but it's true. Some people may like them just for the pictures, but I'm sorry, they aren't good... I can't really say that in a nice way (like so many seem to do), and I'm sorry for that.

Just keep practicing and try some different programs to see which one fits you, also try just looking at other peoples sigs and figuring out how they got those cool effects. That's really all I can suggest.

If you plan on using photoshop, I have the perfect site for getting effects tutorials (and other things). www.good-tutorials.com

[Kathryn]

myy paintshop pro trial finished ages ago

[StarlightAngel]

Another tip would be that if you really want to use 'net images, find the full sized ones that are't too small. When you enlarge images on paint, it makes it really blocky.

Just a tip, don't get all mad about me being mean cuz I'm just trying to help :)

[Rostum]

Yes I'm sorry if I sounded mean, I was just trying to get some genuin critisism out, but probably didn't come out right.

Just try not to leave as many gaps, getting some high resolutioned pictures to put on, and maybe spice up the text a little bit (just muck around with different fonts and try putting drop shadows on it, which can be done in paint).

Practice is the key. =)

[Mirage]

http://www.gimp.org/
Free and good graphics program.

[Vinsanity]

Actually, There not that bad for paint. Paint it just quite possibly the worst program for graphic design. Although I am pretty sure almost everyone starts out with paint -- But you can still do some nice pieces. Better quality pictures would make your signatures look alot better. Pixelatedness = bad. You could also try some prettie fonts to make the sig look more interesting and nice fonts can make the signature go together better.

As others have said, I highly recommend you try out some other programs. I think Photoshop is the best, even though I am such a n00b with Photoshop. But I have found some other programs that work well too.

Anyways, nice job with your signatures Kathryn! =)

[Mirage]

I can't really say they're good even for paint. Even if the program used for doing it isn't the best, there are some basic guidelines you need to follow when designing a sig.
First, it's a signature, not a desktop background. Signatures are meant to be small.
Try a one coloured background with a thin border around the sig, then put the contents inside that. Don't fill it up with as many pictures as possible, Try one or two, then add the text (if any) somewhere it's easy to read it.
It's not easy doing all that in paint though, but it can be done, I've seen several examples. Anyway, screw paint, get that program I linked to in my previous post. It's free, and it's "almost" Photoshop. I personally prefer Photoshop over the GIMP, but the GIMP is easier to get, smaller, and 100% free.

[nik0tine]

You are? I couldn't tell.

It's sarcasum Mirage...

[Shlup]

nik, you have been asked the stop once already. This is twice. If you post in this thread again, I like you, but I wont hesitate to ban you. There's no reason for your rude comments to continue after being asked to stop the first time.

[Kathryn]

here are some new ones and I used paintshop pro

[Shlup]

Those are pretty good, Kathryn. I think its important that you don't distort the image when you resize it though. Like on those two, they look squished because you made them shorter without making them thinner.

And they're too big for EoFF. Not that you're using them here anyway.

[Rainecloud]

You're definitely improving, and remember, everyone has to start somewhere. My signatures used to be absolutely terrible (in terms of photoshop skills, not taste :p), but I think I've improved a little over the years.

Download some tutorials and keep making signatures, and I'm sure your pictures will improve tenfold.

[Gunblades]

If someone wants to say something bad, then dont bother saying it at all. It's no help and can only cause upset. saying "i dont like them" isnt constructive and it isnt crit. Instead say "they arent my taste, but i like what you did with..."thats constructive.

I think it's great your posting and sharing them, as Rainecloud said, everyone starts somewhere. My advice would be to save someones existing Signiture, then erase everything on it in your picture program, so you have a black canvas thats the right size. Then put your stuff in that canvas, just like having to draw within a box, it will help you hone your skills.

[Kathryn]

here is another one

(note:it isn't good though)

[Rostum]

If someone wants to say something bad, then dont bother saying it at all. It's no help and can only cause upset. saying "i dont like them" isnt constructive and it isnt crit. Instead say "they arent my taste, but i like what you did with..."thats constructive.

Constructive doesn't mean only saying the nicest things possible about someones work. I agree to the extent that it is wrong for people to be sarcastic and simply say "It's crap" without exactly explaining how it could be fixed...

But you also need to understand, saying the bad things about it, can improve it. Already, we can see Kathryn has imrpoved quite a bit, and I think they are coming along great. =) If someone were to say only nice things about someones skills, then the person will never imrpove. =\

Well it's a bit jumbled, but you get the gist of what I mean... Good work Kathryn. ^^

[Luthien Rogue]

If someone wants to say something bad, then dont bother saying it at all. It's no help and can only cause upset. saying "i dont like them" isnt constructive and it isnt crit. Instead say "they arent my taste, but i like what you did with..."thats constructive.

Just as constructive as saying, "They aren't my taste, especially this area, you could maybe try doing _____ instead." Pointing out the weaknesses in something isn't a bad thing; it helps us to improve.

So here I go...

1. The image quality is poor, use GIF instead.
2. You should maintain the same ratio when resizing so that you do not distort the image. For exaple, if the image is 100x400 to begin with, don't resize it to 50x79... you could 10x40, or 50x200, or 150x600 etc.
3. Try using a smaller canvas size. Like 400x120 or 290x100
4. Get a program other that MSPaint. ;) Paintshop Pro, Photoshop, anything. :P
5. DL lots of cool brushes, fonts etc! :D
6. Layers are your friend. :D
7. Practice... look at other people's sigs and figure out what you like, and what you don't like.

[Gunblades]

Omecle, you misunderstood me. i was saying that nothing can be gained from someone saying they didnt like your work, and nothing can be gained from being negative. Instead be positive, identify streagnths, single them out which allows you to then point out weakness, not things that are bad or wrong, just weakness that need to be developed. Artists are like blossoming flowers and need to be handled with care, belive me, not only have i been through dedicated Art colledge and Art related university for over five years, im a pro illustrator and i have tought and produced some of the best swordfighters in my country. Art carnt ever be wrong, it's a personal quest, but people can have weakness or lack of experiance.

[Luthien Rogue]

Omecle, you misunderstood me. i was saying that nothing can be gained from someone saying they didnt like your work,

And an artist assuming/believing everyone likes their style and art really isn't very helpful. There's not one thing that everyone on this Earth will agree about. Someone not liking your art is not a bad thing. As long as you like it...


and nothing can be gained from being negative. Instead be positive, identify streagnths, single them out which allows you to then point out weakness, not things that are bad or wrong, just weakness that need to be developed.

Ok, so just pointing out the strengths also points out the weaknesses, you're saying? If she knows her strengths she'll know her weaknesses? I know what you're saying, but isn't it much more helpful for the artist to be told their possible "weaknesses" rather than having to read between the lines?


Artists are like blossoming flowers and need to be handled with care, belive me...

True, they are. But artists aren't weak, they can take a little criticism. :P It's good for you. :P


Art carnt ever be wrong, it's a personal quest, but people can have weakness or lack of experiance.

Which is why they need to know their weakness so that they can improve.

[Kathryn]

I've got Presto Image Folio version.04 for XP

[Gunblades]

Luthien Rogue, if you want to talk more about it just PM me so we dont take up someone elses thread, also take a peek at Rikkus old art thread, final page where a number of people mention how they stopped creating art because of people who offerd their crit and it damaged them.

Paintshop pro is a good way to learn how to move onto photoshop Kathryn

[StarlightAngel]

More tips (Though you're getting better!):
1. Fonts. Make sure it isn't too big, but not too small.
2. Color of words. The color has to go along with the scheme, but it also shouldn't be too happy looking if the sig is calm/serious.
Example:

Good:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/MirielleChan/Sora.bmp

Bad:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/MirielleChan/Badexample-sora.bmp

These are too big in filesize, but its just for example.

[Kathryn]

well...... SEEEYAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!