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eestlinc
02-15-2005, 12:39 AM
Pitchers and catchers report for spring training today, so that means baseball season is almost upon us! We've got plenty of time to discuss the league this year. I would like to commish it this year, and I think we should set a goal of 12 teams. Once yahoo starts registration I'll make the league and distribute the password, etc.

Any suggestions for changes is stat categories? I know I'd like to ax fielding percentage.

Del Murder
02-15-2005, 01:26 AM
So would I! :D

Let's see if you guys realize how I always win and plan accordingly. First hint: if your main concern is yourself winning, you're going to lose.

I'll provide more hints as the season progresses.

At least I am confident that, as commisioner, my rival will do everything he thinks he can.

The Captain
02-15-2005, 02:44 AM
Perhaps, the goal would be not to win, as much as tie you Del, counter move for move to stay on an even stance as long as possible?

As for stat changes... I can't quite recall all the stats we had last year, did we have doubles and triples?

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-15-2005, 03:20 AM
we did not have doubles or triples, although we did have total bases.

Kirobaito
02-15-2005, 03:23 AM
The good thing about baseball is that most of it occurs during the summer, where there is no school or any responsibilities at all. While I'm still technically deciding with myself whether to give baseball a try, pencil me in this season. Go Rangers!

Agent Proto
02-15-2005, 03:26 AM
I would love to give it another try, I suppose. Not sure if I really do want to do it again though.

eestlinc
02-15-2005, 03:27 AM
you certainly aren't obligated to join, but all are welcome, except edczxcvbnm I guess.

Kirobaito
02-15-2005, 03:29 AM
It would be funny if everybody was obligated, though. Tell an admin to do so.

eestlinc
02-15-2005, 03:49 AM
seriously though, please only join the league if you really plan to participate for the full season. It gets pretty frustrating if half the league stops playing after a couple months.

Del Murder
02-15-2005, 04:15 AM
If you don't think you are going to be interested for the whole season, don't play. I don't need champ leeching off your team in the later months, even though it never matters.

eestlinc
02-15-2005, 04:25 AM
and I don't need you trading Derreck Lee to Del in the first week either.

Del Murder
02-15-2005, 04:31 AM
Lee might have a down year without Sosa or Alou to protect him in the lineup.

That bit of advice was free, folks. Now it's up to you to tell whether I'm being sincere or going for misdirection.

Lesson number two: Don't trust anyone.

The Captain
02-15-2005, 04:37 AM
I'm on the fence about leaving fielding percentages in or out because it does require us to draft at least some adequate fielders, which is very much a part of the real game.

I've noticed a pattern about how you draft pitchers Del, in that you tend to shy away from starters to begin the season. Once you've seen more or less how a particular pitcher looks, I believe beginning of May is a good gauge, you start to target certain ones. Drafting a good many closers and middle relief can also enhance your ERA to begin the season, I'd imagine.

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-15-2005, 04:41 AM
the problem with fielding percentage is that while it measures fielding skill at a rough level, it isn't always accurate at a more minute level. especially considering how close fielding percentage standings are in a fantasy league, it doesn't seem fair to reward extra points to someone for having a .001 better fielding percentage when that .001 really doesn't mean that team is any better at fielding.

Counting putouts and assists at least penalizes for the use of DH and rewards using players at their real positions. The problem is it overvalues 1st basemen, but I guess it can't be perfect.

The Captain
02-15-2005, 04:44 AM
Good point Eest. Okay, you've convinced me.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-15-2005, 06:12 AM
Cap, you are on the right track. I may or may not use that strategy again this year. There are two and only two starters I'll take with an early pick. See if you can guess them. I won't tell you if you're right or wrong.

The Captain
02-15-2005, 06:30 AM
Would Tim Hudson be one of them? As for other, hmmm, Unit would be too easy and is bit of a gamble, Santana seems a bit obvious, so let's go with a bit of a leap here: Mark Prior.

Take care all.

Strider
02-15-2005, 06:23 PM
I hated how last year ended. This year, though, it's finally time to take the final step.

Oh, yeah, I say Jason Schmidt and Roger Clemens.

Del Murder
02-16-2005, 01:35 AM
Final step of doom?

The Captain
02-16-2005, 04:02 AM
Leagues start this Thursday!

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-16-2005, 04:11 AM
We also need to come up with some sort of silly league. We can still do the all one team league again, but I want to try something bold, like having only runs and ERA as categories, or only playing infielders and starters.

The Captain
02-16-2005, 04:28 AM
How about the All Steriod Free league, where no one can draft a player who averages more than 20 HR's a season and track the basic ten categories?

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-16-2005, 04:31 AM
Keeping track of that would be a pain. How would we account for pitchers?

The Captain
02-16-2005, 04:33 AM
Does any pitcher average over 20 home runs?

I meant, keep the default yahoo categories, which place a lot of emphasis on power. To me, it would be interesting to see teams constructed around hits, runs, and good pitching and not pure power.

Take care all.

Strider
02-17-2005, 04:01 AM
Yahoo doesn't usually account for a pitcher's hitting statistics, anyway. Since Mark Prior hit like 4 home runs or something back in '03 and I didn't get credit for 'em. :(

It's an intriguing idea, and it'd certainly allow for an opportunity to play hunches on who might break out in a big way. It'd place more emphasis on rookies, too.

Del Murder
02-17-2005, 05:33 AM
Does any pitcher average over 20 home runs?

I meant, keep the default yahoo categories, which place a lot of emphasis on power. To me, it would be interesting to see teams constructed around hits, runs, and good pitching and not pure power.

Take care all.
What I meant was that pitchers take steroids too, but don't have a glaring stat to show it. Should we discount anyone who averages over 9K/inning?

The Captain
02-17-2005, 05:49 AM
Hmm, that thought did occur to me, but since that will be even harder to prove, perhaps pitchers would be exempt from scrutiny. Though if a player has a history of injury to spots that can flare up due to steriod use: Achilles, Biceps, Abdomen, that could pinpoint usage to some degree.

My proposal was meant as a joke initially, but if it does strike the fancy of the group, I suppose we could try it.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-17-2005, 05:59 AM
Nah, again, keeping track of it would be a pain. I'm assuming the list of players that average over 25 HRs a year would be long, but maybe it isn't. At least we're generating ideas.

The Captain
02-17-2005, 06:02 AM
I have a feeling, with the microscope focused heavily on players now thanks to this steriod scandal, we'll see less home runs this season.

Also, how are we determining draft order in League A?

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-18-2005, 01:25 AM
I'd bet at least as many pitchers use steroids as hitters. The difference between a 93 mph fastball with no motion and a 98 mph fastball with no motion is the difference between a major league starting job and a short minor league career.

eestlinc
02-18-2005, 01:50 AM
I formed the league. Should I just post the league ID and password in here, or should I distribute those via PM?

draft time: Sunday March 27 7:30 pm EST (4:30 pm PST).

standard roster size and makeup, standard maxes (162/1250)

scoring categories: Runs, Hits, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, BB, Put Outs, Assists, AVG, OBP, SLG, Wins, Shutouts, Saves, K, GIDP, Holds, Total Bases Allowed, ERA, WHIP, K/BB

Agent Proto
02-18-2005, 01:52 AM
via PM please.

I guess you can count me in.

Del Murder
02-18-2005, 02:05 AM
Total bases allowed, excellent. And you got rid of the awful GIDP for hitters and replaced it with the fun Triples stat. I approve.

eestlinc
02-18-2005, 02:07 AM
I think the stats are pretty good and balanced. I guess I'm glad you approve. :D

Strider
02-18-2005, 04:20 AM
What about doubles?

EDIT: I'd also propose K/9 instead of TBA.

The Captain
02-18-2005, 05:12 AM
37 days sure will fly by.

Best of luck to everyone.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-18-2005, 05:17 AM
What about doubles?

EDIT: I'd also propose K/9 instead of TBA.
K/9 is the same as strikeouts because in the end we will all have the same number of innings. I love TBA because it is the closest to the category I wanted, slugging percentage allowed. Of course, I'll end up being last in it, but it's still a good category.

I wouldn't mind seeing doubles...:D

Strider
02-18-2005, 07:10 PM
We didn't end up with the same amount of innings last year. As I recall, only two teams (I think) ended up at the maximum I set up in 2004.

eestlinc
02-19-2005, 12:22 AM
I put the innings limit back to 1250, which is the default. While not everyone will use all those innings, most will, and everyone will be in the 1200-1270 range, making K/9 very close to K itself, thus giving K's an inflated significance.

Total Bases Allowed is good because it penalizes pitchers who give up a lot of extra base hits even if those hits don't necessarily turn into earned runs. This helps remove a pitcher's luck from the equation somewhat.

I considered including doubles, but I feel there should be an equal number of hitting and pitching categories (there are 10 each plus the two fielding stats). In order to add doubles I'd have to add another pitching stat. The pitching stats I considered adding were IP, CG, and K/9. I already stated why I didn't add K/9. IP is somewhat of a cheap stat and can be manipulated by smartly starting as many pitchers as possible the day you are likely to go over the limit (you get all the innings you earn on the day you exceed the limit, thus allowing up to 1270 innings or so). IP also makes people who load up on innings early in the season have artificially inflated points. CG is somewhat of a dubious stat since you can pitch an 8 inning complete game (on the road) yet still pitch poorly and lose. I'd say close to half of all CGs earned fall into this category. Livan Hernandez is a prime example of this type of pitcher.

In short, I wanted to use stats that accurately reflected the quality of the players used. This way, players are valuable in fantasy that are valuable in real baseball games, not just because they happen to excel at earning some half-meaningless stat. Of course, you could say saves and holds are half-meaningless, but the players who have the best stats in these categories generally do help their teams quite a bit, and how else can you make various good relief pitchers valuable?

Del Murder
02-19-2005, 01:28 AM
Not using all of your innings is the first step towards losing.

The Captain
02-19-2005, 01:59 AM
Is that lesson three or four? I've been keeping notes.

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-19-2005, 02:03 AM
another important fantasy lesson: never trust a Dodger.

seriously though, I know I have a team in all major league sports that I absolutely do not trust enough to draft players from.

Del Murder
02-19-2005, 02:04 AM
Three. Lesson four is to pay attention at all times.

The Captain
02-19-2005, 02:04 AM
Huh?




Would lessons 5 and 6 be:

Never get involved in a land war in Asia
Never trust a Sicilian when death is on the line

Take care all.

m4tt
02-19-2005, 07:15 AM
Baaaaaaaseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm excited.

Strider
02-19-2005, 07:43 AM
another important fantasy lesson: never trust a Dodger :mad2: I hate the Dodgers so much. At least Dave Roberts can torture Matt now that he's a Padre.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 03:51 AM
So, if you had the first pick, who'd you take?

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 03:52 AM
I think it's Pujols and it's a no brainer. But hey, don't listen to me, I've only won the thing twice.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 03:53 AM
I agree, but his foot injury might scare some people away.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 03:55 AM
What foot injury?

The Captain
02-20-2005, 03:59 AM
More precisely, his heel. It's been reported that he is suffering from chronic plantar fasciitis in his left heel. It's not serious, but it may plague him all season. Still, he could probably hit .330 and drive in 100 on one heel.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 04:00 AM
Well I hope that scares people and allows me to pick him. Probably won't though.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 04:02 AM
I've been viewing a lot of mock drafts held by "experts" and all of them seem to think that pitchers come a dime a dozen, at least, that's the impression I get.

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 04:09 AM
Pitchers can only help your team every fifth day. That's my beef with them, and the next lesson. One good game out of some scrappy hitter won't make much difference, but one good start out of some streaky pitcher can get you through a week.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 04:12 AM
Would you also advocate taking one elite pitcher early and then filling in the other slots as the season goes on? (I think I know your answer already, O King Of the Weekly Waiver Pick Up).

Take care all.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 04:19 AM
Last year my weekly waivers didn't do so hot... but I did get decent time out of guys like Wells and Escobar. Anyway, usually I wouldn't, but I think if you can get one of the guys who always do well (like a Johnson or Schilling) you probably can't go wrong. The problem with pitchers is that their funks last a lot longer because they don't play as many games. Hell, even the Arizona boys had off seasons in 03.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 04:21 AM
Or, they get seriously injured, a la Mark Prior AND Roy Halladay did last year, which makes it tough because they're too good to just drop.

I'm determined to actually make it to this live draft this year, as the past two teams the computer drafted were okay, but lopsided instead of balanced, which is what I strive for.

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-20-2005, 04:21 AM
looking at mock drafts, pitchers go a LOT later in them than I know they go in our drafts.

The Captain
02-20-2005, 04:22 AM
Outside of Santana and Johnson, I don't think I saw any other pitchers even close to the first round in any mock drafts, to back your point up Eest.

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-20-2005, 04:58 AM
yep. i look at these mock drafts and say "wow, I'd love to be able to take player X in round 7" knowing full well someone in our draft will take that player in round 4.

Strider
02-20-2005, 07:58 PM
That's the beauty of real drafts, huh? Most mock drafts only cover 5x5, anyway, and we have to draft differently because there are many other bases to cover.

If I had the first overall pick, I'd take Vlad Guerrero with no reservations. I'd take a first baseman with my second pick, someone like Todd Helton or Mark Teixeira (if they're available), which is good value at the tail end of the second round. Then I'd probably find a starting pitcher, someone like Roy Oswalt, Jake Peavy or Roger Clemens.

Kirobaito
02-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Thanks to lack of schoolwork for the last part of this semester, I've decided to give baseball a shot. And this time (unlike with what I've done with basketball), I might change my roster at some point. I'm still getting used to Fantasy sports, that's why I haven't changed my basketball roster except for when O'Neal/Jackson went down.

Del Murder
02-20-2005, 09:30 PM
Glad to have you aboard. The rule in baseball is the same as basketball: I always win.

m4tt
02-20-2005, 10:36 PM
We gonna have one of those one team only leagues again? Or am I the only person who enjoys them? :p

Strider
02-20-2005, 11:13 PM
Did you win the last time around? No, wait, that was Cap'n. But you finished second.

Del Murder
02-21-2005, 12:12 AM
We gonna have one of those one team only leagues again? Or am I the only person who enjoys them? :p
Set it up and I will join, 4. Make sure you have more pitching slots than last time, since switching starters in and out was a pain.

eestlinc
02-21-2005, 02:28 AM
I better PM the league info to KB. I'll do the one-team league, but I don't really want to set it up.

m4tt
02-21-2005, 04:47 PM
I just made the one team league.. I won't invite anyone if you already made on eest. Lemmie know. :p

Strider
02-21-2005, 07:53 PM
Let me in!

m4tt
02-21-2005, 09:15 PM
League ID: 87552
Password: codered

12 teams at the moment but I can add or subtract to that. Haven't set up the scoring yet, I'll do that later on.

Election Booth
02-21-2005, 11:26 PM
MOUNTAIN DEW CODE RED!!

I'll join. Or eest will join, I guess.

The Captain
02-22-2005, 05:19 AM
That makes two leagues joined.

Take care all.

eestlinc
02-22-2005, 05:25 AM
I joined. Word up. I'm tempted to make a second yahoo account to join again as the Reds. Except that would just be a pain to administer.

Del Murder
02-23-2005, 02:00 AM
Hm, I wonder who my second team would be.

EDIT: Nevermind, Houston.

Election Booth
02-23-2005, 04:19 AM
Huston Street?

Del Murder
02-23-2005, 04:24 AM
Hudson for Cy Young?

eestlinc
02-23-2005, 04:26 AM
man, Hudson sucks. I don't know why anyone would bother drafting him.

Del Murder
02-23-2005, 04:28 AM
You saw nothing.

eestlinc
02-23-2005, 04:36 AM
if you love Hudson so much why don't you use your #1 pick on him. I'll give you #1 but only if you pick Hudson.

Del Murder
02-23-2005, 05:27 AM
I'd trade down to Strider for his number one and cash.

Agent Proto
02-23-2005, 05:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/gfstuff/2004/20040613.jpg

Kirobaito
03-03-2005, 10:50 PM
I told Aexy but he didn't respond, for some random reason. ;p David also seemed interested.

You all would be aware of this if you ever came to chat. :)

Strider
03-04-2005, 12:03 AM
I talked to Aexo the other day, and he said he wasn't sure he wanted to join because he "didn't want to pull a last year". So he's still up in the air.

Del Murder
03-04-2005, 01:32 AM
Well if they don't want to try then I don't think they should play. I don't know if there are any others who would be interested. It would be nice to have 10-12 solid players.

The Captain
03-04-2005, 01:34 AM
Indeed, a nice solid round number is also ideal. Yet, as Del said, I also would probably enjoy the season even more if every team stayed interested. So, whatever happens, happens.

Take care all.

eestlinc
03-04-2005, 01:43 AM
12 is nice because it uses up more of the talent pool. I think ten should be the minimum. We have nine right now. I'm sure Eternal Sphere will want to join up. I guess I could just PM him.

Agent Proto
03-04-2005, 01:44 AM
Just a heads up though, I'll probably be away the last two weeks of June. =P

The Captain
03-04-2005, 01:45 AM
Do any of the other football managers have an interest?

Take care all.

Del Murder
03-04-2005, 02:01 AM
Two weeks isn't much in baseball. In football it could mean missing the playoffs though.

Make sure Sphere joins. He's pretty good. I suppose Rocko doesn't follow baseball, even though he's also good at it.

Election Booth
03-04-2005, 02:24 AM
Dingo might join, although...

Del Murder
03-04-2005, 04:35 AM
Dingo barely showed up for basketball, even though it is the inferior fantasy sport.

eestlinc
03-04-2005, 04:40 AM
I thought he was trying and still doing that horribly. :D You could get your brother to join, Del.

Del Murder
03-04-2005, 05:04 AM
I think he already joined another league. It will also be strange switching off with him in the draft since we only have one computer with net access.

eestlinc
03-04-2005, 05:18 AM
yea, that would be strange. I want RSL to play but he doesn't follow baseball that much, despite his baseball joke in his election answer.

Strider
03-04-2005, 06:47 PM
Didn't Dingo get stuck with Ron Artest?

By the way, if you hadn't noticed, David signed up.

Del Murder
03-05-2005, 01:44 AM
Who the heck is David? There are a million Daves in this world.

eestlinc
03-05-2005, 03:29 AM
David David aka Colonel Kirby aka Mr G

Strider
03-05-2005, 10:31 PM
He finished dead last in the football league, Del.

eestlinc
03-05-2005, 10:34 PM
I though CD finished last.

Strider
03-05-2005, 10:36 PM
Either way... okay, I'll rephrase.

He's the guy who lost like... 11 in a row, Del.

Del Murder
03-05-2005, 11:03 PM
Well I hope he does better this time. He did have a some strong performances near the end, with the resurgence of the Bus.

eestlinc
03-05-2005, 11:07 PM
I wonder if he'll load up on Phillies...

Relena Peacecraft
03-05-2005, 11:34 PM
I wonder if he'll load up on Phillies...
Hey now, loading up on players from one team is my trademark.

Kirobaito
03-06-2005, 12:47 AM
David will still somehow load up on Eagles. I've become convinced of it.

It wouldn't be bad for me to load up on Rangers, considering their offensive firepower, and an impending MVP season by Mark Teixeira. Especially when you consider he hit .280 with 38 homers and 112 RBIs last year while missing a full month, and struggling after he came back from his injury. If you take his performance after he got healthy, he was a .295/47/130 guy. :p Pretty damn good.

Anyway, enough Rangers-touting. Go Rangers!

Del Murder
03-06-2005, 12:50 AM
Teixeira sucks.

Kirobaito
03-06-2005, 12:56 AM
YOU suck.

Del Murder
03-06-2005, 01:01 AM
I'm expecting big things out of JT Snow this year.

Kirobaito
03-06-2005, 01:03 AM
Breakout season by Chan Ho Park? I think so. :cool:

Del Murder
03-06-2005, 01:05 AM
I have to agree with you there. Also look for the Reds to make a push for the Central title.

Kirobaito
03-06-2005, 01:08 AM
Nationals '05.

Strider
03-06-2005, 07:12 PM
I'm expecting HUGE things from J.T. Snow this year. And Pedro Feliz.

Del Murder
03-06-2005, 07:19 PM
We know, kiddo. We know.

The Captain
03-06-2005, 08:12 PM
I fully expect the Expos to challenge for a AAA title in 2007.

Take care all.

eestlinc
03-06-2005, 08:21 PM
I think I'm going to give myself the number one pick and take Ricky Proehl.

The Captain
03-06-2005, 08:41 PM
Where does he play now?

Take care all.

Strider
03-13-2005, 06:29 PM
Ricky Proehl reupped with Carolina. That's value!

m4tt
03-14-2005, 05:06 PM
I'm still not set on the point values for the other league. I should of let eest set this up, I'm not very good at this. :(

eestlinc
03-16-2005, 12:02 AM
I set the draft order (based on random draw). here it is:

1. Del Murder
2. Kirobaito
3. Nabeshinji
4. Eternal Sphere
5. Strider
6. David
7. eestlinc
8. Agent Proto
9. Spuuky
10. The Captain
11. Lord Krang

Don't forget the draft is this Sunday!

Del Murder
03-16-2005, 01:37 AM
I am open to trading down.

Kirobaito
03-16-2005, 02:34 AM
Then it looks like I'll be getting Vlad, because Del will be taking Pujols.

Del Murder
03-16-2005, 02:41 AM
We'll see.

The Captain
03-16-2005, 04:31 AM
10th pick again! Amazing! 3 years in a row, I think.

Take care all.

m4tt
03-16-2005, 04:42 AM
I guess last isn't that bad.. since I'll get two picks in a row a few times. Lets hope my pre-rankings pull through.

Edit: and I changed the other league to rottiserie, since i just realized that was what we had last year. Oops! Only 6 people are in it.. I'm gonna set the draft status to ready next week, I hope some more people join. :x

Strider
03-16-2005, 05:21 PM
Picking near the end of the first round allows you to pick two fringe top-tier players at any position. I liked the 11 spot I had last year, but moving back into #5 is fine with me.

eestlinc
03-16-2005, 11:39 PM
For those of us in the other league, we need to make sure we set our pre-rankings to only include players on our chosen teams.

Strider
03-17-2005, 12:11 AM
I guess Aexo won't be joining us after all? That's disappointing.

The Captain
03-17-2005, 12:47 AM
I'm all set with the pre-ranking for the other league.

Take care all.

eestlinc
03-17-2005, 02:14 AM
well he still could technically, if he actually joins. I'd even give him pick #12!

CloudDragon
03-17-2005, 04:55 AM
I'll participate if you need someone to make numbers even, otherwise I'd like to sit this one out.

Del Murder
03-17-2005, 05:30 AM
There isn't matches so we don't need even numbers. Rest up for football and sleep easy knowing Rudi Johnson signed a long term deal.

eestlinc
03-18-2005, 01:26 AM
I took Del's advice and did the same thing I did last time I did this (in football) and drew a number out of a hat for Aexoden's draft spot. I drew 10 so here's the new order:

1. Del Murder
2. Kirobaito
3. Nabeshinji
4. Eternal Sphere
5. Strider
6. David
7. eestlinc
8. Agent Proto
9. Spuuky
10. Aexoden
11. The Captain
12. Lord Krang

Strider
03-20-2005, 10:22 PM
Just so everyone knows, you should start heading to the draft in about 30 minutes. It'll start at the top of the hour, but you know how it goes.

Kirobaito
03-21-2005, 02:48 AM
Well, I guess I'm happy with my roster. I think I'll get the run production, but I may struggle in the areas of stolen bases, and perhaps a few pitching stats. That's why I have Luis Castillo, though, to put into my lineup as a utility man, or perhaps replacing Giles if I can get that stat up.

The Captain
03-21-2005, 04:17 AM
Sorry for taking Young and Blalock good sir.

Take care all.

Del Murder
03-21-2005, 05:43 AM
*polishes trophies*

Great draft everyone.

Strider
03-21-2005, 07:19 AM
I'm confident in my team. I got a few guys I coveted, some others... well, I missed out on 'em, but I like my team's chances.

Del Murder
03-22-2005, 02:32 AM
I got the exact lineup that I projected for myself when the draft started. Every single player. Except maybe Finley, but his spot was just called 'OF number 3' on my lineup. Also, Derek Lee was replaced with Justin Morneau, but Lee is better than Morneau anyway, and what's an Angles team without Derek Lee? Maggs and Bay were both there, though. I also got Schilling, Vazquez, Livan, Hoffman, Kolb and Donnelly from the pitching side of things.

The Captain
03-22-2005, 02:40 AM
In all, I feel my team has an odd mix of consistency and potential talent as it has several great players who will play well in Helton, Ichiro, Young, Rivera and Oswalt, as well as Blalock, Wells and hopefully a healed Anderson. My pitching is a bit shaky after Oswalt and Radke, but I believe Haren is going to have a good year and think that either Morris or Pettitte will recover their former glory. My middle relief looks good and I'm working toward getting a second closer, so in all, I'm warily optimistic with my team.

Take care all.

Agent Proto
03-22-2005, 03:06 AM
I don't know what to think about my team. Can someone do that for me? :P

Del Murder
03-22-2005, 03:23 AM
Tejada has been drafted by the winning team two years in a row. That is all you need to know.

eestlinc
03-22-2005, 05:39 AM
Dude, it's all about the Rafael Furcal Contract Year 2005 World Tour. That and I got two of the last three AL Cy Youngs on the cheap.

edit: and I wouldn't be surprised if Beckett won the Cy Young this year.

The Captain
04-03-2005, 09:11 AM
Finally, the season is here.

Take care all and let's play ball!

eestlinc
04-03-2005, 04:28 PM
my team is good.

Del Murder
04-03-2005, 05:39 PM
We'll see, we'll see.

eestlinc
04-03-2005, 06:05 PM
i like it when I want to trade for someone, then their owner drops them. :D

Del Murder
04-03-2005, 06:44 PM
But I haven't dropped Kevin Brown yet.

Strider
04-03-2005, 07:37 PM
The fantasy gods are conspiring against David again. First Bonds, now Gagne. The Gagne part doesn't bother me at all, though. :D

eestlinc
04-04-2005, 12:15 AM
hah, yes I want to trade for Kevin Brown.

Agent Proto
04-04-2005, 07:50 PM
Let's go Buttercups, let's go!!

Strider
04-04-2005, 08:24 PM
Ah, I like what I see from my team so far.

:D

eestlinc
04-04-2005, 11:53 PM
heh, Yahoo sports said "at worst, expect a quality start from Zito today" and sure enough, he threw six innings and gave up four runs, the bare minimum for a quality start. Good thing I left Woody Williams on my bench. :D

Halladay looked nice and Preston Wilson made me feel good. Matt Lawton too. 3/4 baby.

Del Murder
04-05-2005, 01:48 AM
When you think that one day matters is when you've already lost.

eestlinc
04-05-2005, 01:50 AM
yea, but it's still fun to get excited about the first day.

Del Murder
04-05-2005, 01:54 AM
I agree. :D

Derrek Lee is my boy.

Kirobaito
04-05-2005, 01:57 AM
I would have actually put in people that were playing today, but unfortunately circumstances out of my control (including a car wreck which ruined my trip to Plano to get Jason Terry's autograph) kept me from getting home in time. So, a failure on day one. :(

eestlinc
04-05-2005, 01:59 AM
now Dmitri Young will not hit another home run all year except in games when you have him benched.

m4tt
04-05-2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050405/images/hoffy220.jpg

:(

Agent Proto
04-05-2005, 07:32 PM
Don't worry. Nationals lost their first game too. :(

Kirobaito
04-05-2005, 07:33 PM
Go Rangers!

eestlinc
04-06-2005, 12:56 AM
if the Braves were going to get crushed on opening day, at least it happened with my pitcher on the mound beating them.

Strider
04-06-2005, 07:03 AM
Oof, man. Smoltz got owned today.

Del Murder
04-11-2005, 01:48 AM
I'm just posting to remind everyone that I own you all.

Agent Proto
04-11-2005, 02:14 AM
Not really.

Del Murder
04-11-2005, 02:41 AM
Well, in a fantasy respect.

Kirobaito
04-11-2005, 02:42 AM
Yep. You are owning in your fantasy. Or something that may have been funny.

Del Murder
04-11-2005, 02:43 AM
No, that was good.

Agent Proto
04-11-2005, 02:46 AM
No, I'd say Del's getting owned at the moment.

Go Buttercups!

Del Murder
04-11-2005, 02:51 AM
I know, that's why I had to remind you.

Steve Finley has as many steals as hits (2).

Kirobaito
04-11-2005, 02:58 AM
Melvin Mora has as many hits as, well...I would have if this were my rookie major league season.

The Captain
04-11-2005, 04:35 AM
He hit Carl Pavano quite hard today in more ways than one. Luckily Pavano isn't seriously hurt.

Take care all.

CloudDragon
04-12-2005, 05:12 AM
How's everyone doing? I sat this year out.

m4tt
04-12-2005, 08:44 PM
I dropped from 3rd place to 8th place today since my hitters went 3/30 or something. x_x

Kirobaito
04-12-2005, 10:36 PM
I dropped from 7th to 11th because my top three draft picks are batting a combined .170 or something, and it's getting worse.

Del Murder
04-13-2005, 01:58 AM
People are jumping up and down for the most part. My team has yet to get going, but I'm not worried. Schilling tomorrow!

Strider
04-13-2005, 07:38 AM
I went from first to second today. It's cool, though, since Brian Roberts continued on his rampage. Fresno likes.

eestlinc
04-14-2005, 01:39 AM
my team is ok. I think my pitching will be quite good, which is nice.

The Captain
05-16-2005, 06:31 PM
My team is finally playing to its potential, of which I'm thankful for.

Take care all.

Strider
05-16-2005, 07:23 PM
I know my team isn't, especially my outfield. Beltran isn't running, and Crawford and Huff aren't hitting. It's a bit disappointing, to say the least, but they're my boys, so I'm stickin' with 'em.

eestlinc
05-16-2005, 07:40 PM
my team's starting to come around. Now I just need Victor Martinez and Rafael Furcal to pick up their averages. I like how my team has the best slugging perc and the worse batting average.

Del Murder
05-19-2005, 03:45 AM
My bullpen stinks, but I think I'll be ok. As soon as Strider team starts 'living up to its potential' (ie starts playing bad), then I'll be able to make my usual run. All is going like clockwork. *yawn*

You three need to start making more incredibly one-sided trades or else I'll just end up walking all over you. *cleans fingernails*

eestlinc
05-19-2005, 03:49 AM
on the off chance Victor Martinez remembers how to hit and Jose Vidro stops being injured my team will pick it back up. Or for that matter if Zito remembers how to win a game.

The Captain
06-12-2005, 02:26 AM
My team is doing well, but needs that extra push from certain players (Todd Helton mainly) to catch the top two.

Take care all.

eestlinc
06-12-2005, 10:53 PM
my team is starting to come around to where I expect it to be.

Del Murder
06-12-2005, 11:13 PM
You mean third place with a chance for second?

Kirobaito
06-12-2005, 11:24 PM
Well, my team is firmly established in 8th.

Not much better than what I was expecting.

eestlinc
06-12-2005, 11:30 PM
You mean third place with a chance for second?
hah no. That's about where I am right now. I said it's <i>starting</i> to come around. I expect the upward trend to continue. Besides, I'd be more worried about your increasingly tenuous hold on first.

Del Murder
06-12-2005, 11:35 PM
Well it would help if my middle infielders actually played. At least Chavez is Chavez again.

KB: Maybe you should put Guerrero back in.

Kirobaito
06-12-2005, 11:41 PM
Perhaps because I didn't know he ever came off the DL xD

Del Murder
06-13-2005, 02:20 AM
That's ok, Kotsay did his best Guerrero impression today with a homer and 4 RBI.

What's with Trevor Hoffman, man? This must be related to the fact that 4 has disappeared without a trace.

eestlinc
06-13-2005, 02:30 AM
and what's up with Manny Ramirez?

Strider
06-13-2005, 11:32 PM
And what's up with Carlos Beltran?

Seriously, how many of our first round picks are playing up to their standards?

Agent Proto
06-13-2005, 11:33 PM
Mine is still playing great. <3

eestlinc
06-13-2005, 11:35 PM
I like how Manny hit a two run homer within an hour of my calling him out in here. Of course he's still hitting .250.

Strider
06-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Here I am, thinkin' I was gettin' at least 30-30. I hate when that happens. One stolen base, though, are you kidding me?

By the way, if anyone is looking for a starting pitcher, I want someone that'll rake.

Del Murder
06-14-2005, 02:07 AM
In other words: I'm open to giving you someone you can get comparable stats from on the free agent market for your best hitter. I'll even throw in a second mediocre player to 'compensate'.

Pujols has been good. :D

eestlinc
06-14-2005, 02:34 AM
another home run for Manny.

Strider
06-14-2005, 07:22 AM
You can get comparable stats for Hudson on the free agent market?

Del Murder
06-15-2005, 01:46 AM
He is a decent second baseman, but nothing special.

eestlinc
06-15-2005, 04:50 AM
haha :D Orlando Hudson isn't even on Strider's team.

The Captain
06-15-2005, 08:31 AM
Chris Young has been a surprising addition to my rotation and has helped offset the up and down performances of Brad Radke.

Vernon Wells is FINALLY starting to hit, but I can't believe that both Ichiro and Todd Helton are hitting below 300. This blows my mind yet again.


Take care all.

eestlinc
06-15-2005, 05:53 PM
You know I'd be happy to take them off your hands :D

Strider
06-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

By the way, I wouldn't be adverse to trading Morgan Ensberg, either. It looks like he's a good third baseman here to stay.

eestlinc
06-15-2005, 06:50 PM
I'm interested in trading infielders or relievers, perhaps.

Del Murder
06-16-2005, 02:36 AM
Hit up Romeo with Ensberg, Fres. He needs 3B.

eestlinc
06-16-2005, 04:47 AM
yea, I bet you could get Hafner off him. I recommend that, actually.

Strider
06-16-2005, 05:01 AM
Is that saying the Indians are starting to hit?

eestlinc
06-16-2005, 07:52 PM
it's saying Hafner sucks so I hope you trade for him :D

Strider
06-26-2005, 05:28 AM
Well, my team has survived my vacation, and in first place! That's good news, a big victory considering the implosions of the last two summer vacations I took...

Tomorrow's important. If Prior, Bonderman, Smoltz and Burnett have great games, that could be huge in the long run.

In related news, I need to trade a start or two. Package deals for a big hitter welcome!

Del Murder
06-26-2005, 06:23 AM
Looks like Carpenter was the best trade of the season so far, with a close second being Chad Cordero. Impressive, fellas. When is the deadline?

Your team was suffering mightily, Fres, but it looks like you're set to give me another good run.

Also, Clee needs to stop getting RBIs so that Dlee can win the triple crown. And Ajones with the homers too, while they're at it.

eestlinc
06-29-2005, 08:06 PM
I'll be sure to let Ajones know.

Cordero has been beyond awesome.

Strider
07-11-2005, 07:35 PM
Halfway to victory!

Del Murder
07-12-2005, 01:48 AM
Everything is going according to plan. Soon I will have to decide between Nomar and Crosby, not a bad place to be in. Also Schilling will be back in some capacity. I guess I could use some extra saves for a while.

eestlinc
07-12-2005, 08:36 PM
Captain seems to be charging headfirst toward the top. I'm drafting behind him.

Strider
07-13-2005, 12:19 AM
I'm just waiting for Morneau and Beltran to come around. Once they do, I think I'll be tough to take down.

Del Murder
07-13-2005, 01:57 AM
It's good that you guys still think you can win, otherwise it is less fun when I eventually do.

eestlinc
07-13-2005, 02:37 AM
you talk big up until the end. We wouldn't have it any other way.

Del Murder
07-14-2005, 02:10 AM
When you get 6 trophies you can talk big too.

eestlinc
07-14-2005, 03:14 AM
we'll see how many trophies you have after we institute the salary cap!

and at least I have one.

Del Murder
07-14-2005, 03:21 AM
Don't say the s-word, we don't want this season end in a strike. Unless Fresno is about to win, of course.

eestlinc
09-24-2005, 11:56 PM
looks like we have the same result as last year. man, losing Halladay really hurt me.

The Captain
09-25-2005, 12:04 AM
My team made a charge right around midseason, but Helton slumping and Ichiro having an off year for him really put me in the hole and it took too long for some of my other players to get on track. Still, it was a very fun season and the real baseball races are more intense than ever which makes for a lot of fun.

Take care all.

Del Murder
09-25-2005, 12:35 AM
Don't worry, with some improvements and luck, you'll have a good shot at second next year.

Strider
09-25-2005, 07:55 PM
Stupid @$%(*@#%$ing Carlos Beltran.

eestlinc
09-26-2005, 01:18 AM
despite coming in third again, I've enjoyed watching my batting average finally climb to respectability in the last month.

Strider
09-26-2005, 07:44 AM
I appreciate the fact my hitters aren't quitting on me. Sheffield's homer, Durham's two stolen bases, David Wright with a few RBIs...

Still, this is vastly disappointing.

Del Murder
10-09-2005, 03:34 AM
I hope everyone had fun, and congrats to the winner.

Strider
10-09-2005, 07:25 AM
Wait 'til next year!