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Yuffie514
02-16-2005, 10:06 PM
According to me...

1. Final Fantasy :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
2. The Legend of Zelda :up: :up: :up: :up:
3. Breath of Fire :up: :up: :up:
4. Dragon Warrior :up: :up:
5. Suikoden :up:

NM
02-16-2005, 11:39 PM
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Chrono Trigger
3. The Legend Of Zelda : A Link To The Past
4. Star Ocean : Till The End Of Time
5. Final Fantasy VIII

ljkkjlcm9
02-17-2005, 12:01 AM
C'mon people, Zelda isn't an RPG by most standards, and this has been widely discussed... except Zelda II: Adventure of Link, that was...

Anyways, have to do top ten games
1)FFVI
2)Chrono Trigger
3)FFVII
4)Super Mario RPG
5)Tales of Symphonia
6)Golden Sun/GS:Lost Age
7)Fire Emblem(GBA US, though they are all good, this is the only one I legally own)
8)Shining Force(original)
9)Secret of Mana
10)Zelda II(it's classic)

Or top 5 series
1)FF(I include CT and mario RPG)
2)Tales series
3)Golden Sun
4)Fire Emblem
5)Shining Force

(BTW anyone know where I can get translated Romancing Saga roms, I hear they are great RPGs and want to play them, but understand them whilst I do!)

NOTE: I don't own a PS/PS2 and have played none of the exclusive RPGs for it...
THE JACKEL

CrimsonRegret
02-17-2005, 12:22 AM
The five best rpgs:
1 final fantasy VII :love:
2 final fantasy X :p
3 Grandia II :greenie:
4 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past :tongue:
5 Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (actual a strategy rpg but an rpg all the same) :D

DJZen
02-17-2005, 01:47 AM
Feh, I can think of better RPGs....


1) Tecmo Cup Soccer
2) Earthbound
3) Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
4) Vagrant Story

and of course.....

5) Square's Tom Sawyer

my real answer is 7th Saga, but don't tell anyone that!

edczxcvbnm
02-17-2005, 02:58 AM
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
.hack(all 4 of them...it is pretty much 1 game and not really 4. They just wanted money)

Also Legend of Zelda is not an RPG!

ViVincent
02-17-2005, 03:04 AM
For me its:
1. FFVI
2. FFX
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Kingdom Hearts
5. Suikoden III
All followed closely by Secret of Evermore, Secret of Mana, and FFIX, and FFVII

Sean
02-17-2005, 05:50 AM
Xenogears
Final Fantasy IX
Chrono Cross
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Valkyrie Profile

All in no particular order.

strawberryman
02-17-2005, 06:07 AM
1. FF (almost all of them)
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Dark Cloud 2
4. Super Mario RPG
5. Kingdom Hearts

LotR-the third age was'nt too bad, but nothing too worthy of favorite RPG
If I had to list my least favorite...

25- Dark Cloud
100,000 times infinity to the thirty first power- FF X-2

NM
02-17-2005, 11:06 AM
Someone tell me then. Why isn't Zelda an RPG?

No flaming and don't hi jack the thread with loads of answers. Just one will do.

Captain Maxx Power
02-17-2005, 11:26 AM
- Final Fantasy VII
- Diablo II (don't know if this counts as an RPG)
- KOTOR
- Deus Ex
- Morrowind

Yuffie514
02-17-2005, 05:09 PM
Someone tell me then. Why isn't Zelda an RPG?

i think one of the first two was :confused: . i think it's more like Role Playing Action :) .

Sepho
02-17-2005, 05:27 PM
Zelda is considered an Action/RPG or Action Adventure game depending on who you talk to. The fact that there's no experience system or form of character development, stat-wise, is reason some won't consider it an RPG. I think the fact that it has HP and and MP (in the form of hearts and a magic meter, respectively) is reason enough to consider it an RPG.

The battles, instead of fought by means of a turn-based system, are in real time, putting it in the Action/RPG subgenre. Turn-based RPGs are generally thought of to be "traditional" RPGs.

NM
02-17-2005, 06:26 PM
Fair enough. That'll do for me. It's still staying in my top five though. :p

Endless
02-17-2005, 08:04 PM
1. Legend of Mana
2. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
3. SD3
4. SoM
5. Tales of Eternia

Then in a bunch: CT, FF6, SoM, ToS.

DJZen
02-17-2005, 10:28 PM
Zelda is considered an Action/RPG or Action Adventure game depending on who you talk to. The fact that there's no experience system or form of character development, stat-wise, is reason some won't consider it an RPG. I think the fact that it has HP and and MP (in the form of hearts and a magic meter, respectively) is reason enough to consider it an RPG.

The battles, instead of fought by means of a turn-based system, are in real time, putting it in the Action/RPG subgenre. Turn-based RPGs are generally thought of to be "traditional" RPGs.

I actually have something to add to that. In the Zelda series you have direct control over your character, while RPGs have a more command driven system. That's why Kingdom Hearts is more of an Action RPG than Zelda, because you actually use a menu to control your own actions. In Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior, you select actions from a menu. In Diablo, you issue commands by clicking the mouse. Fallout gives you a sort of combination of the two. In Zelda, you just press A to slash. It's always been considered an adventure game. Zelda II had more RPG elements; while in the overworld you would encounter monsters and then enter a "fight", you got experience from fighting that led to level ups which could increase your attributes, and magic was actually used via a menu. However, dungeons were done in the style of a side-scroller, and jumping around and using various moves (upper thrust, downward thrust, etc.) were a big part of winning fights. You really couldn't call it an RPG in the purest sense of the word.

Dreddz
02-17-2005, 11:06 PM
Top Five RPG are..........


1. Final Fantasy VII

2. Alundra

3. Final Fantasy VI

4. Grandia

5. Dark Cloud 2 ( even though I aint completed it)

Jack
02-17-2005, 11:25 PM
1)Final Fantasy VIII
2)Wild ARMS
3)Alundra
4)FF Legend III
5)FF Tactics

strawberryman
02-17-2005, 11:59 PM
Actually- RPG's are short for role playing games. Which probably means playing the role of a character in a set story. So, unless you were specifieng on the more FF turn-type RPG's, then Zelda technically is a role-playing game.

A typical answer.

Black Mage FF1
02-18-2005, 12:26 AM
1. Final Fantasy 1
2. Final Fantasy 6
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Earthbound
5. Super Mario RPG

edczxcvbnm
02-18-2005, 12:31 AM
Actually- RPG's are short for role playing games. Which probably means playing the role of a character in a set story. So, unless you were specifieng on the more FF turn-type RPG's, then Zelda technically is a role-playing game.

A typical answer.

By that logic ANY game is an RPG. Gran Turismo is an RPG because you role play a race car driver on the racing circuit. Super Mario World is an RPG because you control mario on his quest to save the princess.

So when you talk about games that means that RPG talk about FF type games. Not ALL games. So technically Zelda, Mario, Rez, Frequency, The adventures of Jerry the porno addicted monkey are ALL RPGS!

Doc Sark
02-18-2005, 12:41 AM
Final Fantasy VII
Shadow Hearts
Final Fantasy VIII
Star Ocean 2
Chronotrigger

I should probably stress that these are in no particular order.

Jebus
02-18-2005, 12:43 AM
Suikoden II
Suikoden I
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy VI
Suikoden III

Strider
02-18-2005, 12:54 AM
1. Final Fantasy VI

Actually, let's just stop there. ;)

udsuna
02-18-2005, 01:02 AM
By that logic ANY game is an RPG. Gran Turismo is an RPG because you role play a race car driver on the racing circuit. Super Mario World is an RPG because you control mario on his quest to save the princess.

So when you talk about games that means that RPG talk about FF type games. Not ALL games. So technically Zelda, Mario, Rez, Frequency, The adventures of Jerry the porno addicted monkey are ALL RPGS!

And by a seperate interpretation of that logic: none of those are RPGs because you have no true control over the character. They follow the scripts created and programmed in. A Final Fantasy style game is more like an animated, interactive story than a Role-Playing Game. Can't be role-playing if you don't get to play the Role how you wish.

That being said, my favorite "RPGs" are:

1. FF 7- because it made me cry.
2. Legend of Dragoon- because it actually surprised me
3. FF 8- because the Ragnorock was awesome
4. FF 6- I've played the ending repeatedly because killing kefka is a hobby of mine.
5. Chrono Trigger- and it's only last because the competition was THAT GOOD.

Flamethrower
02-18-2005, 03:00 AM
1) Final Fantasy VII
2) Chrono Trigger
3) Earthbound
4) Final Fantasy IV
5) Final Fantasy VI

edczxcvbnm
02-18-2005, 05:30 AM
And by a seperate interpretation of that logic: none of those are RPGs because you have no true control over the character. They follow the scripts created and programmed in. A Final Fantasy style game is more like an animated, interactive story than a Role-Playing Game. Can't be role-playing if you don't get to play the Role how you wish.


I didn't say I agreed with what RPGs are commonly referred to as but I still follow it for the sake of communication.

Cless
02-18-2005, 06:07 AM
In no particular order:

Tales of Phantasia
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10

Contenders: Crono Trigger, Disgaea, Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean:'Til the End of Time.

How boring am I!? Four of my top five RPGs are Final Flaming Fantasies! Oh well, I guess I can't help my fanboyish ways.

Matthew
02-18-2005, 06:53 AM
I find it insulting to RPG's to put them in lists placing them above the rest. So I will resign my self to love and treat all RPG's equally.

Destination0
02-18-2005, 02:02 PM
FFVIII
chrono cross
FFT
xenogears
suikoden

Sepho
02-18-2005, 05:34 PM
I actually have something to add to that. In the Zelda series you have direct control over your character, while RPGs have a more command driven system. That's why Kingdom Hearts is more of an Action RPG than Zelda, because you actually use a menu to control your own actions. In Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior, you select actions from a menu. In Diablo, you issue commands by clicking the mouse. Fallout gives you a sort of combination of the two. In Zelda, you just press A to slash. It's always been considered an adventure game. Zelda II had more RPG elements; while in the overworld you would encounter monsters and then enter a "fight", you got experience from fighting that led to level ups which could increase your attributes, and magic was actually used via a menu. However, dungeons were done in the style of a side-scroller, and jumping around and using various moves (upper thrust, downward thrust, etc.) were a big part of winning fights. You really couldn't call it an RPG in the purest sense of the word.

Ah, that's a good point, and a good way at looking at it. I actually have a friend who tries to define "Action/RPGs" and "Adventure/RPGs" as being two different subgenres, though those two names aren't good descriptions of what he uses to define each subgenre. Zelda isn't any different from most other adventure games, aside from the fact that there is actually a system of increasing your stats, something not many pre-modern adventures games featured.

Ocarina of Time has somehow gradually eased it's way into being considered an RPG over time, and I think it has something to do with exploration, which is a major defining point of the RPG genre, and in the way that the world is designed, and how nearly the entirety of it is open for you to investigate from the very beginning. It just feels like an RPG, but that's not a good argument.

And about the command argument. In Ocarina of Time's case, to be subjective, the various items/equipment Link has equipped to the C buttons are representative of menu items. Though they don't appear as your stereotypical option menu like that found in Kingdom Hearts, both serve the same purpose (though, admittedly, the menu system in KH is more in depth, and you won't find me disagreeing with the argument that KH is more fitting of being considered an RPG). Furthermore, the various menu items Link can equip to the C buttons range from bows and boomerangs, which can be a form of special attack, to magic crystals (ie. Naryu's Love, Din's Fire, etc.), which are magic attacks in the truest form, being that they reduce MP (in the form of the magic meter) when cast/used.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you either way, just adding to the argument. It's all up to individual interpretation, anyway.


Zelda II had more RPG elements; while in the overworld you would encounter monsters and then enter a "fight", you got experience from fighting that led to level ups which could increase your attributes, and magic was actually used via a menu. However, dungeons were done in the style of a side-scroller, and jumping around and using various moves (upper thrust, downward thrust, etc.) were a big part of winning fights. You really couldn't call it an RPG in the purest sense of the word.

Oh yeah. Zelda II is sort of the black sheep of the series, but I have fond memories of running back and forth in dungeons while my HP was low, and trying to kill enemies without getting hit so I could get a level up. That, and wandering around the world map, waiting for an enemy to drop an experience boost. Fun times.


Actually- RPG's are short for role playing games. Which probably means playing the role of a character in a set story. So, unless you were specifieng on the more FF turn-type RPG's, then Zelda technically is a role-playing game.

Bah, that argument has been made a million times, and it kind of negates itself, given the loose definition of "role playing" applied to games. The two opposing arguments already made in this thread address this.

Heath
02-18-2005, 05:51 PM
I'm going to leave Final Fantasy out of this, since it's only top 5 (and these'll probably end up in different orders depending on my mood):

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Shadow Hearts
3. Fire Emblem: Rekka No Ken (the GBA with Eliwood. I believe someone mentioned it earlier in this thread).
4. Grandia II
5. Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).

As far as FF goes, my top 5 would be somewhat like this:

1. IX
2. VII
3. V
4. VI
5. IV

Chris
02-18-2005, 06:00 PM
It's hard, but here I go.

#1 - Final Fantasy VIII

#2 - Final Fantasy VII

#3 - Final Fantasy IX

#4 - Koudelka

#5 - Sword of Mana

Sepho
02-18-2005, 06:06 PM
Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).

Out of curiosity, Is this game very hard? I have intentions of obtaining a copy of Silver Star Story at some point, but I have the boxed version of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, and it's the most difficult RPG I've ever played.

That's the reason I ask, and because I hear that the first one isn't that difficult in comparison to Lunar 2, so I'm trying to assess whether the series in general is meant to be challenging, or if it's just Lunar 2 that causes headaches.

la monk
02-18-2005, 08:28 PM
no order

fire emblem ( the u.s one)
ff tactics
phantom brave
ff9
suikoden( all of them)

Chzn8r
02-18-2005, 09:34 PM
No order, one per series, only on consoles, you know the rules... the only way I can list just 5 :p -

Final Fantasy
Super Mario RPG
Shining Force 2
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Dragon Warrior 3

Dreddz
02-18-2005, 10:09 PM
You cant treat all RPGs equally. I have a large dislike of Vagrant Story and a large like of Final Fantasy VII. I like them differently but I dont care

Lord Chainsaw
02-18-2005, 10:21 PM
And by a seperate interpretation of that logic: none of those are RPGs because you have no true control over the character. They follow the scripts created and programmed in. A Final Fantasy style game is more like an animated, interactive story than a Role-Playing Game. Can't be role-playing if you don't get to play the Role how you wish.

Are you insinuating that the Zelda series has character development and storyline? Or branching storylines like a western based RPG? Or both?

Below are my top five RPGs of all time, and reasons why:

1. Final Fantasy VII (Mood)
2. Vagrant Story (Storyline)
3. Star Ocean: The Second Story (Gameplay)
4. Breath of Fire II (Mood)
5. The Secret of Evermore (Mood, Gameplay)

Heath
02-18-2005, 10:35 PM
Out of curiosity, Is this game very hard? I have intentions of obtaining a copy of Silver Star Story at some point, but I have the boxed version of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, and it's the most difficult RPG I've ever played.

That's the reason I ask, and because I hear that the first one isn't that difficult in comparison to Lunar 2, so I'm trying to assess whether the series in general is meant to be challenging, or if it's just Lunar 2 that causes headaches.



5. Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).


Lunar Legend was fairly challenging, I suppose. Harder than most FF's, I'd say. Last I asked someone what they thought of both Lunar games, he said they were both "buggeringly hard". I can't really help you more than that, I'm afraid. I'd love to be able to play both of the Lunar games, sadly all I have is the OSTs, which are very impressive, I must say.

Edit: Sorry, it was badly phrased on my part. I should have said "from what I've heard of it".

Chris
02-18-2005, 10:46 PM
Whatever is wrong with you people?

Koudelka is such an obvious choice for a Top-Five RPG Games.

Sepho
02-18-2005, 10:46 PM
Nah, you answered exactly what I was asking. I read that you had not played SSSC; I was asking about Lunar Legend. I only mentioned the former because I was expressing that I wanted to play it just as you did. I suppose my paragraph structure (where I chose to place the sentence) was misleading.

I've heard that Lunar 2 is considerably harder than the first one (and it is tough), and I wanted to know what you thought of Lunar Legend's difficulty to assess whether the series was designed to be difficult (based on what I know about Lunar 2, and what you told me about Lunar Legends), or rather just Lunar 2.

Thanks for the info.

Shadow8017
02-18-2005, 11:31 PM
1) Final Fantasy VII ( I like to be original when I can but can't deny this) Square 1997
2) Final Fantasy VI Square 1994
3) Secret of Mana Square 1992
4) Final Fantasy IX Square 2000
5) Final Fantasy X Square 2002

Destai
02-19-2005, 12:08 AM
1.FFVII
2.FFVIII
3.FFX
4. .hack//
5.FFIX

I would say Xenogears but I havent played it and I dont consider KH or Zelda to be RPG's.

louby_4eva
02-19-2005, 12:04 PM
1. Final Fantasy X
2. Final Fantasy VIII
3. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy VII
5. Legend of legaia

I love RPG's :love:

Luc
02-19-2005, 06:58 PM
Shadow Hearts (both)
Suikoden (any)
Grandia II
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Legend of Legaia (both)

louby_4eva
02-19-2005, 07:53 PM
Legend of Legaia (both)

there's more than one??

Sepho
02-19-2005, 08:35 PM
Yeah, Legaia two came out a couple years ago for the PS2, and I believe it was developed by a different team (Legend of Legaia was a first party Sony title, wasn't it?).

I have both, and I thought the first one was much more fun, but the gameplay in Legaia 2 is probably deeper in every espect. Regardless, even with a very similar battle system and a lot of music common to both games, it didn't feel exactly right.

However, there is one aspect of the sequel that I liked a lot more - not just the battle system, but a particular aspect of it. In Legaia 2 your strongest movies still use AP, but any special move that's not considered a Super Art actually gives you AP, allowing you to continually attack round after round, instead of having to waste turns Spiriting.

louby_4eva
02-19-2005, 09:08 PM
Yeah, Legaia two came out a couple years ago for the PS2

hmmmmm, I'll have to buy that.

Manamana
02-20-2005, 12:41 AM
hmmmm.... top five RPGs

1) Final Fantasy
2) Wild Arms
3) Morrowind
4) Chrono Cross
5) Dark Cloud

ljkkjlcm9
02-20-2005, 04:51 AM
Ah the fabled what is an RPG argument always fun. Well don't use the you play a role argument, cause that'd be almost every game. And don't use the, has to be random encounters or turn based, cause that isn't true either.

Most RPG's give you a choice of how to raise your characters. Zelda, does not, except Zelda II as I said earlier. This element of having control of character development is an RPG. Come on, I want someone to say that there isn't any choice of character development in Final Fantasy, I'm expecting it...

THE JACKEL

Camanche
02-20-2005, 05:21 AM
Hmmmm...
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne & Final Fantasy Tactics (too close to decide between)
3. Vagrant Story
4. Star Ocean: The Second Story
5. Final Fantasy VIII

I'd like to tie Kingdom Hearts for last place, as it was lots of fun, but I enjoyed VIII a bit more.

Though I have a feeling Atlus' new game "Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga" (Also known as "Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner" in Japan, Atlus is trying to get the SMT name recognizable in North America), that's coming out this March will definately make it onto this list from what I've seen so far.

Dreddz
02-20-2005, 01:03 PM
What RPG is Morrowind. I aint heard of it?

Manamana
02-20-2005, 01:59 PM
Morrowind is a RPG for the XBOX. I haven't played it much but I found it was kind of like Fable or possibly/less the Bard's Tale. You customize your character then you have free roam over the map, accepting quests or killing the old shopkeeper that tried to kill you.

Dreddz
02-20-2005, 02:33 PM
sounds good. Aint got an Xbox thought :(

DJZen
02-21-2005, 02:02 AM
Come on, I want someone to say that there isn't any choice of character development in Final Fantasy, I'm expecting it...

*FALLS OVER LAUGHING*

So re-reading all this I've thought "why don't I list my favorite FFs separately from my favorite RPGs just 'cause I don't like inflating the ego of the series any more than it already is".

In no particular order, my favorite non FF RPGs:

A) Earthbound
1) The 7th Saga (GOOD LORD THIS GAME GETS HARD!)
I) Chrono Trigger
a) Mario & Luigi
i) Dragon Warrior III

In order of "I feel like it today", my favorite FFs:

1) FFVIII
2) FFII
3) FFVI
4) FFMQ
5) FFI

And now, in completely random order, my favorite "not quite" RPGs:

3) Tecmo Cup Soccer
81) Alundra
-14) Act Raiser
1/-1) Kingdom Hearts
i) Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past

Lindy
02-21-2005, 02:16 AM
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Star Ocean
Star Ocean 2
Super Mario RPG

Because all of them, need skill, timing, and good reflexes to battle and play well, as well as having a pretty absorbing storyline and likeable characters, with a relative amount of depth. Well, less of the character side on Super Mario RPG, but it was still quite a lot, especially with Mallow.

All I can say is Namco, Wolf Team and Tri-Ace > You

And Lunar : SSSC is pretty damn hard, yes, but I'd say Eternal Blue is harder for the Dragon battles, especially the black dragon. WAY TO BE RESISTANT TO PHYSICAL ATTACKS, THANKS FOR THAT.

The final boss was kickingly hard too, and then the epilogue, oh gawd, that was difficult.

sephiroth9006
02-21-2005, 04:48 PM
1) Final fantasy VII
2) The legend of dragoon
3) Final fantasy VIII
4) KH
5) star ocean till the end of time

(Not in any specific order just afew of the RPGs that i like yeah)

Dreddz
02-21-2005, 05:10 PM
Is Alundra an RPG???

I enjoy it loads but I always thought it was an RPG but people have said no. Help Me please!

crashNUMBERS
02-21-2005, 05:12 PM
1. ff
2. ff
3. ff
4. ff?
5. ff??

soz just ff is just to damn good.

Dreddz
02-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Best FFs were:

1. FFVII

2. FFIX

3. FFIV

4. FFVI

5. FF

Del Murder
02-21-2005, 05:37 PM
1. Final Fantasy VI
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Final Fantasy IV
5. Final Fantasy IX

Dignified Pauper
02-21-2005, 05:49 PM
1) Suikoden II
2) Final Fantasy VI
3) Vagrant Story
4) Dragon Warrior IV
5) Final Fantasy Tactics

Dreddz
02-21-2005, 07:40 PM
As im bored ill type my worst RPGs

1. Vagrant Story

2. FF X-2

3.Suikoden IV

4.Shadow Hearts

5. FFII

ljkkjlcm9
02-22-2005, 01:41 AM
*FALLS OVER LAUGHING*

Would you mind saying what is so funny?

THE JACKEL

DJZen
02-22-2005, 01:50 AM
It's funny because it'd probably happen.

KeybladeMaster503
02-22-2005, 01:57 AM
1. Kingdom Hearts
2. Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
3. Final Fantasy 10 (X)
4. Star Ocean: Till The end of Time
5. Tales of Symphonia

Luc
02-22-2005, 03:14 AM
As im bored ill type my worst RPGs

1. Vagrant Story

2. FF X-2

3. Suikoden IV

4. Shadow Hearts

5. FFII

Wow.. I think those are some of the best RPGs ever. Honestly, what what didn't you like about Shadow Hearts and Vagrant Story? I can understand why you don't like Suikoden IV, since I think it was the worse out of the Suiko series.. but Vagrant Story and Shadow Hearts?

Dreddz
02-22-2005, 05:05 PM
Shadow Hearts was boring and the battle system was silly. Same goes for Vagrant story. The battles are so stupid. One time you could do 60 next you will do 0. And its just a continous dungons. Well the bit i got up to then I got bored and stopped. There are no towns and just dungon trekking. Boring..........

Sydd
02-23-2005, 08:36 AM
I'd have to say that I consider the Zelda series games RPGs, the adventure/rpg or action/rpg tag is pretty accurate.

My list:

1. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn / The Throne of Bhaal
2. Chrono Cross
3. Final Fantasy Tactics
4. Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
5. Final Fantasy IV

Armisael
02-23-2005, 12:02 PM
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantsay X-2
Lufia II
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy VI

ljkkjlcm9
02-23-2005, 12:59 PM
you know, I've already won the Zelda is not an RPG argument on another thread on EoFF, so click on my user name and go to my most recent posts, it's under "the direction square is taking these days" I'm too lazy to have to argue to a whole new set of people again, when I know I'm right.

THE JACKEL

Sepho
02-23-2005, 01:58 PM
Opinions can not be right or wrong, my dear sir, especially in this circumstance where the definition of an RPG is a subjective one.

Yuffie514
02-23-2005, 10:27 PM
here's how i have to put it :) :

Zelda may not be turn-based like Final Fantasy :cool: , but i've always considered it to be an RPG ;) . my memory is vivid here, but i once had two of the earliest Zelda games :) (as a rom) and what i can remember is that one of them is RPG-based :mad: :D .

Rase
02-23-2005, 11:26 PM
Currently

1) Tales of Symphonia (GCN)
2) Final Fantasy VI (SNES)
3) Final Fantasy IV (SNES)
4) Chrono Trigger (SNES)
5) Legend of Zelda (GCN) (Havn't played it, but when I do, it's going up to #1 :D)

As for the "Zelda not being an RPG" thing, well, tough, I pick it. I'll just be literal with my interpretation and there ya go. I am Playing the Role of somone in a Game. HEck, with this literal argument, any game can become and RPG, not by conventional standards, but by definition. And if that's what it takes to get Zelda on my list, there ya go. If that's not good enough for you, sorry, it's my list and my opinion. :D

"Opinions are like fingerprints, in that everyones is unique but none are perfect." - Anonymous

Krystic
02-24-2005, 12:19 AM
1. FF7
2. FF8
3. SW:KotOR
4. Baldur's Gate 2
5. Chrono Cross

TOP 5 GAMES EVER

1. Metal Gear Solid 3 (best ending ever)
2. FF7
3. Resident Evil 4
4. Half Life 2
5. FF8

Nyssane
02-25-2005, 06:51 PM
1. Super Mario Bros. RPG
2. Final Fantasy IIIj
3. Tales of Symphonia
4. Sailor Moon Another Story
5. Romancing SaGa 2

Erdrick Holmes
02-25-2005, 06:54 PM
5. Final Fantasy VI
4. Suikoden III
3. Suikoden IV
2. Suikoden II
1. Phantasy Star IV

Blackmageboi
02-25-2005, 07:27 PM
call me wierd but i like:
Final fantasy V
7th saga
Final fantasy VII
Wizardry 8
WoW(world of warcraft for the unenlightened)

Strawberry Gashes
02-25-2005, 10:14 PM
In no particular order-

Parasite Eve
Arc the Lad 3
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Final Fantasy Tactics
Harvest Moon: Back To Nature

DJZen
02-25-2005, 10:40 PM
Is Alundra an RPG???

I enjoy it loads but I always thought it was an RPG but people have said no. Help Me please!

It's basically Zelda with a much more involved plot and brain killingly hard puzzles. I've never seen anything as nasty as the ice column puzzle in that game. Working Designs even posted the solution on their website because it was that hard.

Dollneaz
03-06-2005, 02:27 PM
Final Fantasy 7
Given that this is a Final Fantasy messageboard I think it's a fair assumption to make that most here have played this game and know just how epic it is in scale.

Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn//Throne of Bhaal
Sprawling, demi-god type hijinx. Plus you get the chance to be an elf, which is never a bad thing. Will Ferrell knows what I'm talking about, right Will?

...

He's nodding.

Planescape: Torment
Deep, dark and oddly disturbing in places. I've never played anything like it before in my life.

Skies Of Arcadia
Flying pirate ships! Need I say more?

Deus Ex: Invisible War
May come as a surprise to some, especially since the original is so highly regarded but I must admit, I prefer IW. Though I do miss Walton Simons. :(

Masamune·1600
03-15-2005, 05:37 AM
1. Final Fantasy VII

2.-5. (in no particular order) Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy VI, Xenogears

Perducci
05-06-2005, 08:06 PM
1. FF6/7 (Depends on how i'm feeling.)
2. Breath of Fire 3
3. Suikoden
4. Grandia
5. FFT

Jebus
05-06-2005, 08:12 PM
1. Suikoden 2
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Xenogears
4. FFVI
5. Seiken Densetsu series

redxiiii
05-06-2005, 08:17 PM
1.FFVII
2.FFX
3.FFVIII
4.FFVI
5.FFX-2
Notice anything odd about my list :D

GooeyToast
05-06-2005, 11:06 PM
Well, considering this is an ff site, pretty much everybody is going to say mostly ffs. And i'm no exception.

1. FF VII ( I mean, come on, it's FF7!)
2. FF VI ( I mean, come on, it's FF6!)
3. Chrono Trigger ( I mean, come on it's........okay, i'll stop now) :D
4. Castlevania Symphony of the Night ( hey, it's an rpg by my means)
5. FF IX ( why don't more people like this game? i don't see any ff9 posters, or any ff9 memoribilia anywhere! Why the indignity?!!)

I also love Earthbound, Kingdom Hearts, FF8, FF10, Secret of Mana, Parasite Eve, Chrono Cross, Illusion of Gaia, FF X-2 (well, maybe not so much), FF 4, Star Ocean, Vagrant Story, and...... ( I'm just gonna stop here for everybody's sake.) :)

Craig
05-07-2005, 09:47 AM
In no particular order:

Final Fantasy IX
Breath of Fire 3
Suikoden 2
Grandia II
Phantasy Star Online ep 1 & 2

Games that almost made it:

Kingdom Hearts
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Grandia
Chrono Trigger

Alixsar
05-07-2005, 10:38 AM
1. FFVI
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Lunar 2 Eternal Blue
4. FFV
5. Suikoden II

Honorable Mention: FFXI, Suikoden III, Tales of Destiny, Star Ocean 2, Ys III:Wanderers from Ys, Ys VI:The Ark of Napishtim

Last Place. FFVII because I hate it forever.

Does Zelda count? Because if it did, that list would be all Zelda games and FFVI.

Dreddz
05-07-2005, 11:01 AM
FFV is my new favourite

Rainecloud
05-07-2005, 12:08 PM
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Zelda: OoT
3. Little Big Adventure
4. Final Fantasy X
5. Zelda: Link's Awakening

Sketch Turner
05-07-2005, 05:05 PM
Hey, awesome RPGs so far, dudes and ladies!

My list of all time faves though, includes;

I)Alundra
II)Guardian's Cruisade
III)Star Ocean:2nd Story
IV)Legend of Mana
V)Final fantasy V

XxSephirothxX
05-07-2005, 05:16 PM
1. Final Fantasy IX
2. Golden Sun: The Lost Age
3. Final Fantasy VI
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Final Fantasy VII

I don't really consider Zelda an RPG, and if I did OOT would take the top spot.

black orb
05-07-2005, 06:06 PM
>>> no particular order..
FF1
FF9
Valkyrie Profile
Suikoden 1
Suikoden 2

DMKA
05-07-2005, 06:11 PM
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Xenogears
3. Final Fantasy X
4. Final Fantasy VI
5. Final Fantasy VIII

Oh, and FYI, Zelda is not an RPG.

Lindy
05-07-2005, 06:21 PM
Oh, and FYI, Zelda is not an RPG.

Early Zeldas, classed as Action RPG
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/data/563277.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/data/919777.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/data/921925.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/data/588436.html

From Ocarina of time onwards, Action Fantasy
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/n64/data/197771.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/data/469050.html

I'd consider it an action RPG, but RPG is Role Playing Game, you do that in every game, you play a role, so such genre definitions are very much personal opinion.

Apollo
05-07-2005, 07:10 PM
In order:
1:FFVIII
2:FFVI
3:FFIX
4:FFIIj (Yeah you heard me!)
5:Super Mario RPG "The Legend of the Seven Stars" :D

Casey
05-07-2005, 07:12 PM
1. Xenogears/Xenosaga
2. Vampire Bloodlines
3. Star Ocean 2nd Story
4. Breath of Fire 4
5. FF8

......

ughhis
05-07-2005, 07:46 PM
In no particular order:

Castlevania - Symphony of the Night | :)
Shin Megami Tensei - Nocturne | Moody.
Suikoden II / III | Wonderful.
Alundra | Dreamy. :rolleyes2
Xenogears | Great anime is great.
Mother (Earthbound) | Pokey.
Fallout II | Please?
Planescape - Torment | Planescape.
Final Fantasy VI / VII / IX / X | Most are great.
Terranigma | Yay, it's so pwetty. :)
Chrono Cross | Magic.
Heroes of Might & Magic III | Strategy-RPG at its best.
Vagrant Story | *swoon*
The Legend of Zelda - ALttP / LA / OoT / MM / WW | Zelda.

There are many more of my 5 favourite RPGs, but those will do for now. :fpcow:

DMKA
05-08-2005, 09:40 AM
I'd consider it an action RPG, but RPG is Role Playing Game, you do that in every game, you play a role, so such genre definitions are very much personal opinion.
Thank you. :)

BlackRibon
05-09-2005, 08:47 PM
1- Final Fantasy X
2- Final Fantasy VIII
3- Star ocean till the end of time
4- legend of dragoon
5- Final Fantasy VII

Raistlin
05-09-2005, 09:12 PM
1. Suikoden 2.

2-5(in no particular order): Suikoden, Suikoden 3, Lunar SSSC, FFT

T-MaN
05-09-2005, 10:40 PM
1- Final Fantasy X
2- Final Fantasy VII
3- Legend of Dragoon
4- Final Fantasy VIII
5- Vandal Hearts (Don't really know if that would be considered and RPG, but it sure seemed like it.

Yea, here are mine.

Lich3636
05-10-2005, 12:54 AM
FFVII
Saga frontier
Breath of Fire III
Chrono Trigger
if you count it Azure Dreams if you dont Super mario RPG

ChaosCalibur
05-10-2005, 01:02 AM
1) Star Ocean: The Second Story
2) Kingdom Hearts
3) Final Fantasy Tactics
4) Phantasy Star Online Ep.I&II
5) Shining Force II

Buccura
05-10-2005, 04:13 AM
1: Neverwinter Nights
2: System Shock 2
3: Final Fantasy VI
4: Chrono Trigger
5: Final Fantasy IX

Btw, WHY THE HELL IS ZELDA CONCIDERED AN RPG?!??! ITS AN ACTION ADVENTURE!!!!!!! >(

fuuijinmon zell
05-15-2005, 03:27 AM
Okay, it's hard for me too say, but from the ones i've played...

1)World of Warcraft
2)Final Fantasy
3)Legend of Zelda
4)Kingdom Hearts
5)Legend of the dragoon

obviously i haven't played enough, but im still young, and i know i've played more, i just can't remember them

Fireblade13
05-25-2005, 09:34 PM
1.FFX
2.FF2/3.FF1DOS to close to call
3.Paper mario TTYD
4.FFTA
5.Pokemon pick one

YukiKiro
05-25-2005, 09:50 PM
they're all FF's so i'll just list the numbers

VIII
VII
X
FFVI
FFTA (yes, tactics advance)

Az Lionheart
05-30-2005, 04:55 PM
KOTOR wil have to been in there some where

SNOOZER
05-30-2005, 05:19 PM
Breath of Fire 3
Breath of Fire 4
Suikoden 3
Super Mario RPG
Xenogears

Nakor TheBlue Rider
05-30-2005, 06:02 PM
Very Specific Order.

#1 Chrono Trigger (snes)
#2 Final Fantasy VII (7)
#3 Final Fantasy Tactics (RPG/Strategy)
#4 Final Fantasy X (10)
#5 Zelda: OOT (Action/Adventure/RPG)
#6 Final Fantasy IV (4)
#7 The Legand of Zelda (nes) (Action/Adventure/RPG)
#8 Zelda: Link to the Past (snes) (Action/Adventure/RPG)
#9 Final Fantasy X-2 (10-2)
#10 Final Fantasy XI (11) (MMORPG)

I went to 10 because a few of mine may not be considered RPG's

Havoc
06-01-2005, 05:21 PM
1 - Xenogears
2 - FF7
3 - Suikoden III
4 - FFT
5 - FF6

TifaLockhart7
06-05-2005, 01:16 AM
My top 5 RPG's are as follows:

#1. Final Fantasy 7
#2. .Hack
#3. Ys
#4. Chrono Trigger
#5. Sailor Moon: Another Story

Well, those are my 5 most favorite RPG's. I have more, but there rank is below these.

Black Mage
06-05-2005, 02:15 AM
1. Tales of Phantasia
2. Final Fantasy Tactics
3. Final Fantasy IV
4. Suikoden (I)
5. Valkyrie Profile

And in my opinion, for what it's worth, Zelda is an Action/Adventure RPG. Always has been, always will be.

Hroth
06-05-2005, 03:27 AM
1) Kingdom Hearts
2) FFVI (6)
3) FFIX (9)
4) Chrono Trigger
5) Wild Arms

If KH is not an RPG, everyone goes up a spot and spot 5) goes to Legend Of Legaia

seda
06-21-2005, 07:49 PM
1-all numbered final fantasies
2-fire emblem (it's stratagy prg type thingy)
3-ragnorak online
4-dark cloud
5-runescape

Ste
06-21-2005, 08:52 PM
1. Grandia
2. Suikoden II
3. FFIX
4. FFVII
5. Grandia 2 / KOTOR