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Election Booth

02-27-2005, 08:12 AM

Ok, let's do FF7 Advent Children. You might be asking yourselves what task I could possibly assign for a forum dedicated to a movie that hasn't even been released yet. Well, you can bet this one threw the candidates for a loop:

Write a review of this movie.

amratis (representing the BAotW party):
Now..you see the thing about this question kids...is that its a *trick* one. Not that I'm amazingly smart for realizing this - but how can I do a REview of a movie that hasnt come out yet?....I could do a PREview but that isnt what you've asked. So I'm faced with a dilemna *gasp* :surprised Do I give this as my answer or actually try and do a review of the movie....well.

Nyeh! :p I'm not doing it *waves finger and other assorted objects at the judges* Despite watching all the trailers, reading everything about it I can and generally being a squi! AC fanatic - I cant review it, I've only seen like 7 mins of actual footage alltogether! We dont even know *for sure* yet what the general plot is, because it *isnt* *out* *YET*. I could have wrote a really good preview, why didnt you ask me that instead!? Then I could have showed how amazingly brilliant and knowledgable I am :D CURSE YOU Election booth! This has vexed me greatly!
Because of this I am forced to use my answer to advertise the orgasmic greatness of chocolate pop-tarts! They should be made compulsory throughout the world!

CHOCOLATE POP-TARTS FOREVER! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

P.S I dont care if certain of my party members told me not to do this. :p AC Cloud is damn hot! Even if he IS made up of pixels! wahahahahahahahhaa!!! :D

Cloud_Strider (representing the #eoff party):
Revue for Final Fantasy Advent Children--- Kory Owen/Cloud Strider

Back in 1996, Square-Enix, then Squaresoft, came out with a game that put that corporation on the map. The game not only revolutionized video games, but also created a fanatical pop-culture that even today, nine years after, are still part of.
In 2003 Square announced the creation of a new Final Fantasy 7. Rumors had went on for years before that, saying that a new 'game' would be put out, bearing the Final Fantasy 7 logo, they were half right. The new development was of a movie, Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children. Since the flop of The Spirits Within, many were skeptical about this new movie, however, that first impression soon changed.

The graphics in this new CG-film are above the standards anyone who played Final Fantasy 7 would think. Facial expressions, movements, and textures all create an atmosphere that almost pull us into the movie itself. To say it in my own words: The cutscenes in Final Fantasy X suck, everyone looks boxy and polygonic...
Do you remember fighting Sephiroth? Do you recall the tinny, machine like music that was played at the final battle. That song was called One Winged Angel. If you've seen the new trailers, that is it, playing in the background. So I give Squeenix a big fat O for music. O being Outstanding, of course.

Although the movie hasn't been released, admit it, we already KNOW that its going to kick a.... it is going to be a very nice film. So as my revue, this is what I give it.

Visuals: A++
Music: A++
Violence: Yes please
Sexual Innuendo/scenes: In the forums, people asked, I say no. I hate being right.
Cursing/Obsenities: Mild (Barrett is a pottymouth)
Smoking/Illegal Drugs/Alcholol: Cid Highwind probably does all that, so Probably.
Jenova cells: Plenty

Destai (representing the Ace party):
Write a review, very clever...I really hate reviews for movies that arent even out yet... :mad:

Final antasy VII is regarded by most as the series at its best. It was the first game in the series to break away from "past" themes like medieval and industrial revolution and came out with a modern day setting like dark cities, alleways etc. but still kept the ancient ruins and other traditional FF settings. VII gave Final Fantasy an audience outside of Japan. Talks of a remake werent uncommon with the somewhat cliffhanger ending but with events like the losses from the FF:spirits within movie any plans were constantly postponed and never really took off. When I saw the first screenshots I seriously had to wonder was it a elaborate prank. Nope.

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is the sequel to FFVII set to be released in Japan March 14th in full top class CGI like the Spirits Within Movie and with a soundtrack by Nobuo Uematsa, no less. I have no doubt Square has the potential to make a sucess of this movie but you really have to wonder will they? Personally, I think they will. Over the months theyve been growing more and more confident in this project (still shook up from the Spirits within flop if you ask me), The movie time has been getting longer and longer and more characters from the original party werent long being added to the cast.

The story takes place two years after VII. The planet has become peaceful. A diesease named Geo-stigma has become rampant and is particularly contagious to children. Cloud is running a package delivery service with Tifa in Midgar.They are taking in orphans. The original team has gone its seperate ways since the VII events. Cloud is hired to investigate three mysterious men all bearing a striking resemblance tp Sephiroth named Yazoo, Loz and theyre leader kadaj.

The CGI is extremely impressive and realistic but not as realistic as FF:Spirits Within. I certainly couldnt blame them for this, Theyve managed to make the movie extremely life like but still keep them as the original characters from the game. No easy task. But theres not much doubt on the CGI being brilliant, moving on...

The Soundtrack is composed by Nobuo Uematsa so Im honestly expecting it to be at the worst, very good. Its his his first attempt at a movie soundtrack and hes certainly put a lot of thought into what will suit it as a movie and not a game. The trailers have so far only shown an epic orchestrated version of the classic FFVII piece, One winged Angel and a piece of the main theme from the piano tracks. A special preview of the soundtrack was heard as part of Nobuos Dear friends concert currently touring the U.S.A. Not much information has been given on the piece (as most of the audience were glued to the screen showing clips of the movie) but it has been described as "looking back on the events of VII". Nobuo is planning what he described a more rocky soundtrack but with a fll reorchestration of one of the original tracks. This is probably One winged angel but its been pointed out that many pieces of music used in previews arent used in actual movies or games.
The voices are currently in japanese and wether they'll be dubbed is not yet known though it is possible. I think there will be English voice actors since the second trailer was released with an english narrarator. This says to me theyre keeping an audience across seas in mind. VII is seen as the first FF to have large sucess in America and Europe after all. The Japanese voices have gone down well and kept in character so far.

:chop: Theres alot of action in the movie and alot of the added time is supposedly added and lengthened battle scenes. The fighting is unrealistic but thats pretty intentional as its keeping close to the original game. Often imprssive to look at and sometimes just downright cool. The only part of the fights I found an odd trailer scene too unrealistic. Example, Tifa took on Loz in an admittedly awe inspiring fight. At one point he caught both her hands and as they held each others hands he swung her around then threw her across the room into the wall where she landed with an impact sending flower petals into the air and continued to stand on the wall. Now the wall walking was shown pretty artistically and I was impressed but the only part I really didnt like was how she got up there in the first place. It reminded me of 50's night on an episode of the simpsons :lol: . But overall the action is so far impressive to look at and I certainly cant name any CGI movie to take real advantage of action in that manner. It should be a real treat.

All in all if you enjoy Final Fantasy, CGI, Good characters, Fantasy action or promising storylines (an unexpected revival, and what one of the creators has called a significant death)you should definitely take the time to see this. :moose: :up: :moomba: :ty: :mog:

Samuraid

02-27-2005, 09:36 AM

Well said all! Cloud_strider did an excellent job with a very informative response that was not too long. :D

Rainecloud

02-27-2005, 10:01 AM

Jenova cells: Plenty

Nice touch. Good review.

Loony BoB

02-27-2005, 10:05 AM

Yeah, the ratings at the end put C_S ahead of the other two quite easily. The last one is a tad too long for my liking, the first one is, well, a little crazy, yeah. :p

amratis

02-27-2005, 10:06 AM

I don't think the question was a fair one. How can you write a REview of it...sorry I dont mean to be nitpicky. I just dont think the question was fair. :(

Loony BoB

02-27-2005, 10:11 AM

It's a fictional review - in other words, you're writing it pretending it's been released and you've seen the whole thing, or something. We asked EB after C_S got a bit confused by his question. :)

amratis

02-27-2005, 10:18 AM

Oh...ok I didnt know that. I wouldnt have written what I had if I'd known. I guess I should have just asked for clarification. Oh well.

Matthew

02-27-2005, 10:38 AM

Don't worry. I actually answered the questions they gave me. I've shamed the face of my Unne.

Destai

02-27-2005, 12:14 PM

I wrote my review by what was already known about the movie. I dont think Id have written it much differently if I had seen it.

Resha

02-27-2005, 12:55 PM

WHOOPIE! Way to go boris no no!!! That was easily the most informative answer in the FFIX category. *hugs and runs away* Yay!!! FP3!!!!!!!!!! (Fluffy Pink Party Power!)

Ouch!

02-27-2005, 05:29 PM

I couldn't bring myself to read Destai's answer. It was too long. I'm lazy.

Jojee

02-27-2005, 05:37 PM

Actually, Destai's answer was quite good ^_^

Tasura

02-27-2005, 05:42 PM

Yay! Destai, yay! Ace!

Sepho

02-27-2005, 05:49 PM

I read "FF7" when EB posted, and I got excited. Then I read the "DOC" after it, and my excitement waned. Then I scanned over Destai's review, and I was quite happy; it was really very good.

Good job, everyone.

Destai

02-27-2005, 05:52 PM

Thanks you guys but I really did over do it on a movie thats not even out yet ^^. Ive broken the review up in catagories but didnt think to labell them. You can probably tell by the first line of each paragraph.

First big paragraph is looking at FFVII
2nd is Summarizing what is AC
3rd is Ac's story
4th is CGI
5th is Music
6th is Action
If I wasnt so tired after writing it Id have put ratings and labels on them but what ya gonna do :rolleyes2

Trumpet Thief

02-27-2005, 06:23 PM

chaos: I'm going through this thread right now, although, good luck to all those who participated. :D

Election Booth

02-27-2005, 07:17 PM

I love being confusing :D Ok, next up is Final Fantasy 7:

Summarize the events of the four possible Gold Saucer dates (Aeris, Tifa, Yuffie, Barrett). Explain which is your favorite and why.

Dr.K (representing the BAotW party):
In order to enable Cloud to date a certain character, it is required that he be civil to only that character, and that he treats all other characters as if they were leftover sushi left outside to cook in the sun. For Yuffie, it is required you complete both Wutai side quests as well as this. For Barrett, well...if you're that desperate, try and find out :)

Aeris: - Aeris and Cloud take a trip on a gold saucer ride, where Aeris gives him a psychological going over. "I'm searching for you Cloud", she exclaims, intrigued, and tries to get inside his head. He has none of it, but still, she doesn't get the hint, and in the end, the date fails, as Aeris is still alive and, even worse, still able to unleash her relentless drivel on the world.

Yuffie: - Cloud and Yuffie go to the hidden Gold Saucer McDonalds, and upon arrival, Yuffie complains at the lack of contemporary cutlery. Cloud, thankfully a master of metallic origami, moulds her 4-point shuriken into a full dinner set, showing he too can "do the ninja thang". He then orders her a fillet o' fish, telling her "It's like sushi, but cooked", at which Yuffie chortles, exclaims her secret love for Barry Manilow, and tells Cloud he is the "biggest twonking laugh since Des O' Connor was on the radio".

Tifa: - Tifa suggests her and Cloud "do something naughty", at which Cloud suggests a game of hide and seek. Tifa then retracts, telling Cloud she was thinking of something "slightly less physical". Cloud then suggests they sneak into the battle square to investigate "where in the golly gosh that unending supply of monsters comes from". Their sneaking in is successful, however, when Tifa mentions that stuffed crust "pwns so much more than deep pan base at pizza hut", Cloud is whipped into a frenzy, and pushes Tifa down the large staircase, telling her she will "feel the wrath of Colonel Sanders eventually". Poor guy.

Barrett - Strangely, for this date, a large 'CENSORED' appeared on my screen for 10 minutes, after which Barrett concludes to Cloud, "yep - my systolic hypertension is really just psychological after all - thanks dude!". And they told me the Luxembourgian directors cut had BONUS material. *Sigh*

My favourite would probably be Aeris' date, as that's the only one which involved a ride :)

Mindflare (representing the #eoff party):
In my 4 trips through FF7, I have always favored Aeris over Tifa, Yuffie, and Barret. Therefore, I've only ever went on the date with Aeris. On that date, Cloud and Aeris go on the gondola, and participate in a short play, where Alfred (Cloud) saves the princess (Aeris) from the Evil Dragon King, or some sort like that. This play holds a good bit of foreshadowing in it. Fun to watch, and decide how things work out.

Jojo (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
The events don't matter, the people matter.

http://tifa.net/cabu/fp/aeris.jpg
Aeris is pink.

http://tifa.net/cabu/fp/tifa.jpg
Tifa is fluffy.

http://tifa.net/cabu/fp/yuffiez.jpg
Yuffie = that's illegal! = Kishi.

http://tifa.net/cabu/fp/barret.jpg
Barret = ow, ow, baby! Plus he has a big gun ^_^

http://tifa.net/cabu/fp/cloudz.jpg
Cloud could look like this... ie, hot :) Too bad he wasn't in the game.

So why do all the dates have to involve Cloud? :| My favorite Gold Saucer date is Tifa x Aeris, because they are hot and because they are Fluffy x Pink = Fluffy Pink party. We will make your wildest dreams come true.

PS. But if I had to pick one involving Cloud, I would pick the date with Yuffie, because I like illegal stuff and Kishi's pretty cool too. ^_^

PenguinsAttack! (representing the Elitist party):
Aeris dies at the end.
Tifa gets a breast reduction and a loud prepubescent groan is heard around the world.
Yuffie steals all your materia.
Barret comes out of the closet, touches Cloud's no-no area, and the rest is history.

My favorite is the Aeris date.

SePhO_zO (representing the Ace party):
Witnessing all four Gold Saucer dates is a task that requires playing through the game multiple times and employing precise decision making, and is something that very few fans can say they've accomplished.

I am… not one of those fans.

BUT, with the help of ePSXe and an MCR file I ripped off of some random website, I am here to ensure that no one ever has to endure this painstaking exercise EVER again. Here is a brief, yet fulfilling, summary of the four Gold Saucer dates so that you don't have to bother with such nonsense. I'm such a helpful guy:

Tifa
<img src="http://www.digitalfault.com/p2/FEB ELECTIONS/tifa.gif">
The Aeris and Tifa dates are easily the most common. If you've seen neither, you're either playing the wrong game, or your dialog choices somehow reflect your secret, homoerotic fantasies about large, black men or the time you spend daydreaming about Japanese school girls (both of which are understandable, the latter more so). Tifa's date goes a little something like this:

Cloud is practicing his "Indifferent face" when Tifa inconsiderately barges into his room and asks to go for a little walk. The twosome end up going to the Event Square where, suprise, they've won some sort of door prize competition (because they're the main characters and the 99 previous couples were NPCs), and are asked to star in a play. Tifa could not fit into her costume because of issues with certain features of her body, so she winged it in the ol' suspenders and white tank top getup. Cloud is having an equally tough time trying to tackle lines that required him to employ emotion and put emphasis on certain words and syllables. Needless to say, any applause they receive is only out of charity and sympathy.

Following their attempts at winning on Oscar, they shuttle off to the Round Square and take a ride on the gondola. Reminiscing about the old days in Nibelheim ensues, and Tifa may or may not express her feelings towards Cloud. Frankly, I don't remember. I do, however, remember that Cloud appeared to be too deep in thought to possibly have heard a single word that Tifa says. My interpretation is that Cloud is trying to remember whether he was running low on Aquanet©. Whatever the case, the conclusion is that Cloud has his head too far up his own arse to pay any attention to what Tifa has to say.

Aeris
<img src="http://www.digitalfault.com/p2/FEB ELECTIONS/aeris.gif">
Cloud has not yet gone to sleep because he has come to the conclusion that sleeping is neither "cool" or "cold". Instead, he's wide awake, pondering whether he wants his Ultima Weapon in Ebony or Blue Velvet, so he's not startled when Aeris walks in and reminds him that she owes him a date. He's suprised, not because he didn't think she'd actually hold to their bargain, but because he wasn't paying attention to her when she made the promise and now has no idea what she's talking about. He wants to show off his new vest anyway, so he goes along with it.

They find themselves at the Event Square before too long, and alas, they're in the play. Cloud swears he had to go through this crap with Tifa on the first playthrough, but he keeps this remark to himself. He suffers through the play, and is relieved when Aeris drags him on a gondola ride, because it gives him a chance to brood. During the ride, Aeris jokes around with Cloud a little bit, but we witness no response from Cloud. This is either because he can't comprehend what exactly a "joke" is, or because he has his head stuck too far up his own arse to realise that there's another person in the gondola with him.

Yuffie
<img src="http://www.digitalfault.com/p2/FEB ELECTIONS/yuffie.gif">
I simply cannot describe, with mere words, the profound emotional depth of the beginning scene of this particular date, but I will try my best to elaborate:

Yuffie comes in, says "Hey Cloud, how about you keep me company?" or something or other. To this, Cloud replies with a heartfelt "Sure". And thus, the fairy tale date begins. To be completely honest, I'm not sure if Cloud even agreed to such a date, but Yuffie is alone, and she's not having it.

At this point, I'm certain that Yuffie has materia on the brain. Why have I come to this conclusion? Because she's Yuffie, and she's awake (which clearly means that she's not sleeping). What does this have to do with the date, you ask? Why nothing, silly! But it's not as if Cloud doesn't have his head too far up his own arse to realise it anyway. Whether she steals every piece of materia in his possession or plants a big, sloppy, wet one on his left cheek (SPOILER!), he's got more important things to worry about. Like making sure his new Oakleys have arrived on time, and whether or not a goatee would further contribute to his badassitude.

Barret
<img src="http://www.digitalfault.com/p2/FEB ELECTIONS/barret.gif">
Cloud is in the middle of writing a letter to Rufus Shinra, commenting him on his overcoat but recommending that he should have chosen a darker color (say, "Midnight Blue," or "Deep Crimson" - preferably the former, but take your pick), when Barret interrupts with a knock on the door. Cloud probably would be taken aback at the scene of a seemingly closet homosexual version of Barret asking him on a date, but, you guessed it, he has his head stuck much, much too far up his own arse to discern that Barret is gay. Or that he's black. Or that he has a freaking gun for a right hand. Or that he's standing right next to him, for that matter.

Cloud leaves the hotel with Barret, not because he thinks he's on a date, but because he believes he's on a mission and that he's going to get a considerable amount of Gil for it. He'll spend that money on a new pair of boots, no doubt. Cloud and Barret enter the familiar Event Square, but leave almost as fast when the doorperson fails to recognize them as a couple. Dio, CEO of Gold Saucer Inc., is clearly a homophobe of the highest degree, and only hires employees that are equally as homophobic. Somehow, though, the employee running the gondola at the Round Square seemingly got past his radar - he lets Cloud and Barret ride for free.

During the ride, it becomes evident that Barret is having second thoughts about whether he is fully comfortable with his own sexuality. He even takes it on Cloud by asking Cloud how he dragged him into this gondola thing. I would feel sorry for Cloud at this point, for the abuse he has to absorb, but he isn't paying attention anyway. Around the time that Barret is screaming obscenities at him, Cloud is just noticing that a certain part of the Gold Saucer holds a striking resemblance to a great, big Gil coin.

To sum it up, the dates accomplish absolutely notta.

Hotshotsguy (representing the Anti-Eoff party):
EoFF sucks!

boris no no

02-27-2005, 07:27 PM

go jojo!
whoooooo!
:love:

Destai

02-27-2005, 07:36 PM

Nice work SepohO z0. :D Made me laugh.

Ultima Shadow

02-27-2005, 07:42 PM

SePhO_zO is by far the funniest! :D

Rye

02-27-2005, 07:44 PM

xD @ Dr K's answer.

Barrett - Strangely, for this date, a large 'CENSORED' appeared on my screen for 10 minutes, after which Barrett concludes to Cloud, "yep - my systolic hypertension is really just psychological after all - thanks dude!". And they told me the Luxembourgian directors cut had BONUS material. *Sigh*

Possibly one of the best answer so far. :) But SePhO's answer made me laugh hard too, especially:

http://www.digitalfault.com/p2/FEB%20ELECTIONS/barret.gif

These answers are all pretty good.

Sepho

02-27-2005, 08:22 PM

Funny answers all around. Good job, guys.

Psychotic

02-27-2005, 08:32 PM

Dr. K and Sepho (as he said he loves to be called) were great there. Jojo was absolutely terrible. What the HELL was her answer all about? Very sucky indeed.

Also I liked amra's review as it wasn't boring. :)

Rainecloud

02-27-2005, 08:58 PM

I want those pictures in Spoiler tags. Now.

Denmark

02-27-2005, 09:10 PM

I've never gotten either the Aeris or Tifa dates. there must be something wrong with me? :\

Rye

02-27-2005, 09:12 PM

Don't feel bad, I don't think I'm even close to that part in FF7 yet. xD

Election Booth

02-27-2005, 10:20 PM

Ok, now let's move to the most important forum in all of EoFF, the one filled with the best of the best threads: General Archive! Now reading the archive cna be a daunting task, so our candidates have provided a list to make your searching easier:

What are the five greatest threads in the General Archive? Provide links to each and a short discussion of what makes each thread so great.

Psychotic (representing the BAotW party):
Thread #1 is named Without Spam - The greatest song parody ever (self-proclaimed) (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=22138) and was written by some fellow named Del Murder.

This thread reveals the not often discussed romance between Del and Kishi. "Screw you kishi" is my favourite quote from this love ballad. He means this in a literal sense. It's cute to think about, isn't it? Awww, my ickle Dellie-pie with my baby Kishi-poo! :love: Oh right, humour. Here, catch:
TROUT! (Man, that cracks me up every time! :))

Thread #2 is entitled Grrrrrr (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=35638) and the artist responsible for its creation is Free Spirit.

Fear bubbled out over the land of memories like an evil broth filled with despair. Free Spirit's mighty warriors had suddenly come up against a creature who had sprang forth out of the shadows of the past, who was previously thought only to be a legend: That snake chick. That snake chick broke upon her characters like an furious storm, and all hope had appeared to have faded, when out of the twilight a voice, quiet and yet clear, could be heard like a distant memory. It was the words of Kurohime "supposedly she's weak against water and ice, but I'm usually high on Bahamut" with these words, Free Spirit's vigour was renewed, and she and her honourable warriors smote that snake chick down. After the chaos had died down, Free Spirit stood over the fallen body of her opponent, and a mighty roar was heard: "I finally beat the friggin snake for once!"

I have been informed that thread #3 goes under the name of Partners (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=18840), courtesy of President of the Richard Nixon Appreciation Society, yun.

I have a confession to make. I'm only putting this here because I want to respond to yun's offer. YUN! YUN! WHERE ARE YOU? I WILL BE YOUR WIFE AND TOGETHER WE SHALL WAGE WAR UPON THE NATION OF ARMENIA! Oh yun! How dearly I love thee...:love:

#4 is a delightful little ditty, I like to call it RM2K thread *@______@* (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=18139), made by that Finnish imp, Miktzsrstususuyuussu!

This thread contains the very SECRETS of the universe! Screen Pans are in fact, POSSIBLE! You may have heard otherwise from lesser mortals, but Spaceman Spiff quells all rumours to the contary! However, Spiff does let himself down on Page 2 by breaking EoFF Rule number 6: Member moderation. Alas, alas that such an evil rule-breaking fate has befallen one so mighty! Another thing this thread is is a shining beacon of glittering hope: The holy grail exists! Our dearly departed friend, HOOTERS, was making a game! I demand that a quest set forth immediately to recover it!

Last, and probably least, is #5, What if...#1 (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=10206) brought to you by the number 8, and the letter L. Oh and Citizen Bleys, whoever THAT is...

I only picked this 'cause it's got ooc tags and they make me SO horny. Oh, and this quote: "Yes Tidwell?" Oh Tidwell. Tidwell Tidwell Tidwell. Will you ever learn?

Lord Krang (representing the #eoff party):
Here goes:
<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49799">Aw, man</a> - Cause it's Important.
<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54710">RSL Avatars</a> - Cause RSL is cool.
<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43980">Mad as a bug?</a> - Cause I didn't know bugs could get mad.
<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5287">Kishi Appreciation</a> - Because kishi is cool.
<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6395">Bleys stuff</a> - Cause Bleys has a funny voice.

Lady Fidela of Confide (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
Ok, here are my threads.sorry it took so long, college steals all my time. my apologies again if the links don't work, it's not the sort of thing i do on a regular basis.

thread 1
Creepy/weird postcards.
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9957
Ooh, a mystery...and the thread goes on until the two practical jokers reveal themselves. everybody loves a good mystery, right? And this thread is also one of the reasons you should never give your homeaddress to someone you meet on the net. Great joke though,kudos to Sakura Yume and Calliope on a well thought out and executed plan.

thread 2
EoFF is, apparently, something awful.
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45426
well, i read the article linked to this thread made by the something awful people...and it made me laugh, but at the same time, disgusted me, especially when they insulted people's poetry and writing. But the eyesonff thread outshone that article in terms of humour, and it was an insightful glimpse into how people deal with being insulted.
and now, a quote from Loony BoB
"Actually, although they might laugh at us (hey, we are too) - from the few people I've chatted to (from SA) about this, they actually think we're pretty cool for how we reacted. They're used to people being heartbroken about it, so when people like us are laid back enough to show some humility and laugh with them, they think it's neat. Well, just from the people who have chatted to me, anyway."
See, we're great here, really.

thread 3
The eyes on final fantasy prom.Closed
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21000
A prom. A Roleplay, and oh so funny! well, it's just so different from the other posts. has everything a real prom would have, food, music, dancing, without the mess, yay.

thread 4
THE GR8EST SPAM THRED EVER
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36562
really hilarious thread, contains loads of random posts, which made it very amusing.

thread 5
The all new photo thread of doom
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36900
i like this because - it had pictures! and it was nice to see pictures of the people themselves, and it made a change from reading, yay, pictures!

6 well, officially this wasn't necessary, but i thought the world of Eizon deserved a mention, but since that was made up of hundreds of threads it was impossible to pick just one. Eizon, for me, was a great experience and a lot of fun, that i won't be forgetting anytime soon.

Super Christ (representing the Ace party):
<a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18840">Partners</a>
Just read the thread.
Seriously, any discussion as to why the thread is so great would be longer than the thread itself.

<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47748">The cids knights are like shinra</a>
This is a great thread, not only because the person was trying to flame the Cids Knights and not doing a good job at it, but RSL's reply was great; Psychotic's and Del Murder's replies were cool as well.

<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22138">Without Spam - The greatest song parody ever (self-proclaimed)</a>
The thread title for this is correct - it was the only thing that could make *me* download an eminem song, and it really is just a funny song.

<A href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11756"> A little declaration of war</a>
This is one of the greater threads in the General Archive because it really is a great example of how a lot of people feel about this place. It's wanting to belong to things like this that gets many people to stick around.

<a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15394"> 4036 Reasons To Praise Dr Unne and Drink Bacardi</a>
This is the second best wild spam thread ever, I'd say. The best being the original "100 Reasons to Hate Dr. Unne" thread. In my opinion.

I was also tempted to nominate <a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43980"> Ok im mad as a bug!</a>, but nah, those are my five nominations for best thread in the General Archive.

Doomgaze

02-27-2005, 10:49 PM

Bingo.

Bleys wins.

Maybe S-E should actually DO something about it rather than creating a game environment conducive to gilsellers and that lets them ruin the game experience for others. Not that I care, because hey, the worse S-E does, the more people join me on the vastly superior WoW. :)

Del Murder

02-27-2005, 10:50 PM

The Ace Party is cleaning up in my estimation. Good job guys!

Doom: Don't you dare start that up in this thread.

Psychotic

02-27-2005, 10:52 PM

The BAoTW Party is cleaning up in my estimation. Good job guys!

Lord Xehanort

02-27-2005, 10:55 PM

Ansem: I do what I am able.

Kounetsu: I do whatever's willing.

Rye

02-27-2005, 10:55 PM

Free Spirit stood over the fallen body of her opponent, and a mighty roar was heard: "I finally beat the friggin snake for once!"

xD! Good job, Psy. :D

Dr.K

02-27-2005, 10:58 PM

MANY an amusing thread on offer there, especially...

THE GR8EST SPAM THRED EVER
Amen.
Great goin' people :D

boris no no

02-28-2005, 12:22 AM

well done lady!
:love: :love: :love:
the pinks go for gold
....or perhaps metallic pink....
can all our medals be pink!
yeay!

krissy

02-28-2005, 01:03 AM

the fact that the pink party actually found a barrett cosplay done by an actual black person should guarantee a win right away.

Quina

02-28-2005, 02:21 AM

I can't wait until these elections are done so we can start next years.

Chibi Youkai

02-28-2005, 02:52 AM

Thinking about next year's already? That's insane. Let's get through this one first.

Election Booth

02-28-2005, 03:24 AM

at this rate these will still be going when next year's start. Let's do another forum: Kingdon Hearts:

Name every Final Fantasy playable character that makes an appearance in the KH series. At least name as many as you can.

to clarify, I was looking for characters that are playable in any Final Fantasy game that make any sort of appearance at all in one of the kingdom Hearts games. Here's our responses:

Ansem (representing the BAotW party):
There are no playable FF characters in Kingdom Hearts. The FF characters are NPCs. Those characters are: Leon/Squall, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, Cloud, Sephiroth, Selphie, Tidus and Wakka.

WarZidane (representing the #eoff party):
Selphie, Wakka, Squall, Yuffie, Aeris, Cloud, Sephiroth, Auron (in KH2) and Tidus (Tea-dus? What were they smoking when they made Wakka pronounce Tidus that way?)

Remember, all those who vote me get pie. :greenie:

The Summoner of Leviathan (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
Cloud, Sephiroth, Aerith, Yuffi, Squall, Selphie, Wakka, Tidus, Mog ( I mean moogles), Cid...I think that is it. ^_^ Hopefully this wasn't a trick question where the answer is none...

chionos (representing the Fabio party):
Who volunteered me for this crap? Kingdom Hearts is boring...

Linus (banned but still representing the Unne Avatar party):
Thomas
Sasarai
Cesar
Luc
Dupa
Yuber
Shiba
Lucia
Yiuri
Salome
Jimba
Juan
Sgt. Joe
Hugo
Bazba
Yun
Edge
Yumi
Fubar
Nash
Aila
Hallec
Chris
Estella
Cecile
Geddoe
Melville
Ace
Alanis
Queen
Elliot
Franz
Iku
Scott
Ernie
Dios
Albert
Mua
Dominic
Jeane
Shabon
Fred
Rico
Percival
Borus
Twaikin
Nadir
Duke
Barts
Bright
Toppo
Beecham
Gau
Reed
Samus
Mio
Tuta
Futch
Lilly
Jefferson
Sarah
Watari
Ayame
Sebastian
Shizu
Hortez VII
Elaine
Jacques
Joker
Wan Fu
Eike
Leo
Roland
Sharon
Nicolas
Gadget Z
Nei
Viki Past
Viki Present
Augustine
Belle
Koroku
Arthur
Kidd
Apple
Kenji
Mel
Peggi
Martha
Wilder
Rhett
Louis
Mamie
Ruby
Muto
Landis
Kathy
Emily
Billy
Mike
Luce
Sanae Y
Anne
Goro
Piccolo
Rody
Guillame
Gordon

Starlight Angel (representing the Ace party):
Cloud
Squall (Leon)
Cid
Tidus
Yuffie
Wakka
Aeris(th)
Selphie

I think that's all of 'em...

Psychotic

02-28-2005, 03:26 AM

I'm not sure if I like Linus or Chionos' answers the best. But Ansem wins as he saw through the trick question. :D

Agent Proto

02-28-2005, 03:28 AM

How many forums have we gone through?

eestlinc

02-28-2005, 03:31 AM

it isn't supposed to be a trick question. We've posted 14 forums, so abotu half done. Jeez. I'll go ahead and ask EB to post a couple more. Still waiting on some answers, though.

Azure Chrysanthemum

02-28-2005, 03:31 AM

UAP forever!

Leeza

02-28-2005, 03:36 AM

I'm not sure if I like Linus or Chionos' answers the best. :D
This is a no-brainer. chionos. :)

Election Booth

02-28-2005, 03:43 AM

Got plenty of forums we need to get through. I've started putting in answers for people who don't care enough to participate. Next up is FF7: Dirge of Cerberus. In case you don't know this is a new FF7-based game that is currently in production and apparently features Vincent:

What genre of game do you hope DoC turns out to be? RPG? First Person Shooter? Sports? Puzzle? Explain how the game would fit into that genre and why it will be a good game.

Fuzakeru (representing the BAotW party):

Final Fantasy FF7 - Fantasy Dating!

______________________________________________

http://usera.imagecave.com/Fuzakeru/Dating.bmp.jpg
-=Vincent, the secks-tacular vampire, wields his big gun as he saunters down endless mazes shooting down all that . . . don't want to date him? FF7: Dirge of Cerberus should be turned in to a Sim dating game. Why is this you ask? Because we all know that Final Fantasy characters are sexy and horribly placed sequels and spin-offs are equally /or even more so sexy. Besides, we all know more people would buy it if it were a Sim dating game. You know you'd buy it.=-

DoomAntenna (representing the #eoff party):
From the screenshots, it looks like it definitely won't be like the usual Final Fantasy RPG. It looks kind of like Devil May Cry, but I'm hoping it will have more of a storyline to it. So I guess I hope it'll be an action-RPG of sorts, with a great story and an entertaining battle system. It will be a good game because of the story they will put to it and because it's focused on Vincent, who was a pretty neat character, despite the fact that I never got that waterfall subquest to work. :)

Streetspirit (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
I hope Square Enix decides to re-release Rad Racer and just package it as FF7: DoC.

Shoden (representing the Ace party):
really i would like it to be both RPG and 1st person shooter it would be a good mixture and maybe a challenge and change from the old ATB battle and more similar to the Kingdom Hearts Battle system it would be great and give the player a massive bond into the game the world around it and the characters plus it's in 3D

Psychotic

02-28-2005, 03:46 AM

Vincent is a midget in a tux in FF7: DoC. It's true.

Election Booth

02-28-2005, 03:57 AM

Ok, let's do General Gaming. Anyone who hangs out in this forum has to be a master at the old-school masterpiece The Legend of Zelda. Let's see them prove it:

Name the dungeon bosses for each dungeon of both quests of The Legend of Zelda. Bonus points for providing screenshots of each boss.

Maxico (representing the BAotW party):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Maxico/Zelda.png

Endless (representing the #eoff party):
<h2 align="center">The Legend of Zelda - Boss List.</h2>
<h3>First Quest.</h3>
Level One Boss: Aquamentus 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d1_q1.gif" width="240" height="160">
 
Level Two Boss: Dodongo 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d2_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Three Boss: Manhandla 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d3_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Four Boss: Two-Headed Gleeok 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d4_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Five Boss: Digdogger 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d5_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Six Boss: Ghoma 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d6_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Seven Boss: Aquamentus 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d7_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Eight Boss: Four-Headed Gleeok 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d8_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Nine Boss: Ganon 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d9_q1.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
  
<h3>Second Quest.</h3>
Level One Boss: Aquamentus 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d1_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Two Boss: Two-Headed Gleeok 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d2_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Three Boss: Dodongo 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d3_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Four Boss: Digdogger 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d4_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Five Boss: Three-Headed Gleeok 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d5_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Six Boss: Ghoma 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d6_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Seven Boss: Four-Headed Gleeok 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d7_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Eight Boss: Dodongo 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d8_q2.gif" width="240" height="160"> 
 
Level Nine Boss: Ganon 
<img src="http://lopez.famille.free.fr/zelda/boss_d9_q2.gif" width="240" height="160">

Raven (representing the Fabio party):
<img src=http://www.ostrichink.com/march2003/zelda1.GIF>
That's all I got, folks.

Matthew (representing the Unne Avatar party):
I
1 Aquamentus
2 Dodongo
3 Manhandla
4 Gleeok
5 Digdogger
6 Gohma
7 Aquamentus
8 Gleeok
9 Ganon
II
1 Aquamentus
2 Gleeock
3 Dodongo
4 Digdogger
5 Gleeok
6 Gohma
7 Gleeok
8 Dodongo
9 Ganon

Can't access my space. So, no screenshots.

Joel (representing the Ace party):
I assume you mean the NES Zelda so:

Aquamentus
Dodongo
Manhandla
Two-Headed Gleeok
Digdogger
Ghoma
Aquamentus
Four-Headed Gleeok
Ganon

The 2nd quest has the same bosses but tougher.

Pacguy (representing the Anti-Eoff party):
<img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/image.php?u=14264&type=profile&dateline=1108752329>

Psychotic

02-28-2005, 04:02 AM

Oh wow, Maxico is using that new-fangled Alpha Transparency thingy. All Firefox lovers should vote for him purely out of love. I agree with him though: What the crap IS that?

And on a random note, I bet Pacman could take Link in a knife fight.

m4tt

02-28-2005, 04:11 AM

You left out the best part of my answer! :mad2:

RSL

02-28-2005, 04:13 AM

Score another one for the #eoff party!

Jojee

02-28-2005, 05:27 AM

Whoo. ^_^ My FF7 one was the hottest, just admit it.

And go Lady Fidela :) You picked awesome threads ^_^

Summoner of Leviathan was the only one who mentioned Mog. Extra credit! :)

Umm... go Streetspirit, even though I don't think you wrote that! ;)

And while I'm at it, even though you're not in the FP party, holy crap Endless XD

eestlinc

02-28-2005, 05:39 AM

You left out the best part of my answer! :mad2:

the part about BoB giving your sexual favors?

Election Booth

02-28-2005, 05:49 AM

Ok, one more forum before I go to bed, Eyes on Each Other. This is a very serious forum so I presented a very serious task. Just for the record, I made this scenario up completely. :D

I just found out my girlfriend of three years was born a male and has had gender modification surgeries and treatments. I don't know what to do. Give me advice.

Rusty (representing the BAotW party):
Well it seems to me you have two very exciting options:

1) Accept him for what he is...I mean she is. We're all merely mammals after all.
2) Get out more

I'm go with the latter.

-There's my answer :)

Jebus (representing the #eoff party):
Well, first off, you've been together for three years, you obviously care a great deal about this person. It's true that she never told you about her past in this regard, but considering how long you've been together, you should be able to talk about this.

This matter is really up to you and your girlfriend, but if you ask me, you should let the past be your past and just enjoy yourselves. You've been together that long.

Angel of Light (representing the Fluffy Pink Party):
This one is tough you know.

First two words: Calm down! :whoa:
First you have to think:
1*why did he/she do it
2*what did he/she look like before
3*is what he/she is now better than it was before, 4*and dos he/she know that you know he/she is
Try to find out the first one, but not ask him him/her if he/she don't know that you know. If you must ask, be careful. Then do to the next step(2) and then the third. If he/she is positive looking now and looked like a troll or something before or he looked like a girl(some people is just born in to the wrong bodies you know).
You may consider to end the relationship, but a lot of people has done this kind of thing and for them it's working fine. And if the person is a wonderful eh... "person" and you like him/her very much, GO FOR IT!!! :kiss: :love:

Giggles (representing the Fabio party):
First, I think you should decide if you're okay with this. If you're okay with their choice. You may love this person, and as hard as it may be, you have to decide if you're willing to be with someone who has not only lied to you all this time (understandibly) but also has had a sex change. You need to take into consideration your feelings for this person. You have a history, and you've been together for quite a while. I don't think that you should break it off because they decided to tell you the truth. Take into consideration everything that's gone on in your relationship, and take into hand their feelings as well. It's going to be a really difficult decision, but also know that your partner isn't a different person than the one you've known for the past three years. They're still the same mentally, emotionally, and even physically (in the time that you've known them). Good luck in making your decision...I hope you can make the one that's right for you and your girlfriend.

Behold the Void (representing the Unne Avatar party):
In response to the question:

The important question here is to examine your true feelings. While this certainly may be considered "the straw that broke the camel's back", it doesn't have to, nor should it be a true factor. A person who has had a gender change operation usually has a good reason for it, and if a person is mentally a female but physically a male, why should we hold it against them and judge them for it?

I admit it may be a bit strange to be dating someone who was once a male, but frankly, I do not see why it should matter. If you do truly love her, (and I am assuming that some feelings are present, as she has been your girlfriend for three years) a thing such as this shouldn't really matter. It might be a different case if she were still a male, that would constitute deception, but in this case, she is truly, physically female, and you should not hold it against her.

Instead of scorning her for it as others might do, I suggest you not allow it to become an issue. This knowledge has changed nothing, she is still the same person you've been dating for the last three years.

Giga Guess (representing the Ace party):
Well, I'm of two minds on this....on one hand, if she didn't trust you enough to tell you earlier, I'd say to break it off, but then....I'd suggest you talk to her, and clear the air...feel it out, and see if you can work this through. I trust you'll make the right decision. Just...if you can't deal with this situation, let her down easy, okay?

>>--heartshot--> ♥ (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
I think this means you're gay now. Nothing can save you. :(

Samuraid

02-28-2005, 06:58 AM

Wow, great job all on the last 4 or so! :D

Leeza

02-28-2005, 07:12 AM

Those were all good responses, in my opinion, but Giggles gets my vote for having the best one. :)

FightClubFan#47

02-28-2005, 07:42 AM

heartshot has the best :)

Jack

02-28-2005, 09:23 AM

I like the BAoTW world one (bias) I mean, it's true. There are more girls out there also.

amratis

02-28-2005, 10:23 AM

About the VII: DoC answers. I#m with Fuzakeru, I would sooooo buy a Vincent Sims game, I could make him date Cloud or something..... :D

Loony BoB

02-28-2005, 10:30 AM

the part about BoB giving your sexual favors?
My favourite part! :cry: Put it back in and make everyone aware! EVERYONE!

:love: Matty :love:

Citizen Bleys

02-28-2005, 01:12 PM

Looks like BoB's finally gotten over me.

Loony BoB

02-28-2005, 01:28 PM

Don't get your hopes up. >=D Bleys / Spiff / Matty = :love:

I'd put in Doomy as well but then I'd get myself beheaded.

boris no no

02-28-2005, 02:47 PM

hugs to all the fluffy pinkers!
:love: :love:
great answers!

Azure Chrysanthemum

02-28-2005, 04:49 PM

Obviously the secret to these elections is not take things seriously and give good answers. I'll have to remember that next time.

Jebus

02-28-2005, 06:15 PM

Well, yeah. But it was EoEo. I don't know how to mess around there without coming off as insulting.

Fate Fatale

02-28-2005, 10:19 PM

When are we gonna do FFT? I'm getting tired of waiting...

Chris

02-28-2005, 10:21 PM

...and Crystal Chronicles... I'm anxiously awaiting.

Doomgaze

02-28-2005, 10:43 PM

Josh wins, hands down.

Denmark

02-28-2005, 10:45 PM

Linus wins posthumously. :(

Election Booth

02-28-2005, 11:14 PM

The next forum up is the Xenogears forum, more popularly known as the General Square Enix forum, or Gen Squeenix for short. My goal in this task was to bring Square and Enix together at last. My secret goal for this task was to have someone mention Rad Racer. Sadly, nobody did, although we still have some great answers:

Combine any one Square game with any one Enix game, then write either a poem or a paragraph demonstrating how these two games would be combined.

Ouch! (representing the BAotW party):
One Square game and one Enix game, eh? That’s easy, a game combining the characters from Final Fantasy VII and, say, Dragon Quest IV. But you’d need some kind of twist to hook the consumer, right? So why don’t they make it a board game? Like some kind of Mario Party rip-off with some important characters from FFVII, like Cloud, Aeris and Tifa, and some characters from DQIV, like Ragnar, Healie and Alena. The point of the game would be to make money by selling other players your items when they stop at your store, or something like that. You could throw in a bunch of mini-games in it too, like betting on chocobo races FFVII style. Wait, what’s that? They’ve already come up with that? Well shucks, I tried.

Del Snizz (representing the #eoff party):
(I humbly submit my response for the fulfillment of my duty and, as always, for the edification of the people. I know that this text appears to be in contravention of the assigned task, seeming to be divided into multiple paragraphs in order to accommodate its nearly one thousand words, but I assure you that it is indeed a poem and therefore not subject to any restrictions of length or formatting.)

My first instinct when I saw the prompt for this forum was to respond with the question “would anyone really notice?”, but having never, to my recollection, actually used any of either company’s products, I decided that my visceral impression was potentially misguided. I therefore committed myself to conducting an appropriate amount of research in order to determine whether, as was my suspicion, the plots of the games indeed formed a dull mass of interchangeable banalities, or if the respective corpora of the two companies each had distinct merits of their own.

Unfortunately, my regular research assistant was feeling absolutely drained from the previous day’s work, and not having another bottle on hand, I abandoned that plan and decided to announce that you could all kindly go to hell. My political handlers, however, counseled against such an action and advised me instead to—how do I say this delicately?—shamelessly pander to the degenerate tastes of the plebeian hordes. So, after contemplating the essential qualities of the games in question, which I identified to be simple repetitive tasks, tired composite genre fiction, and a healthy dose of meaningless statistics, I came to the realization that the conditions were ideal for a bureaucratic setting, and instead of merely combining two games published by two different companies, the game could be about their corporate merger itself. For the skeptics among you, I will proceed to demonstrate the practicability of this idea, showing that the game would almost write itself.

Take, for instance, the dialect of bureaucratese spoken in most large corporations. This jargon has a lot in common with the standard-issue nonce-vocabulary of arcane magic spells and fantastic technology that is invariably found in games, and we can simply scour memos and transcripts of meetings to find names for all the techniques. After all, what opponent would not tremble (assuming that bits of code and pixels were capable of such a thing) when you pressed the button to ‘leverage’ your character’s ‘synergy’?

Now, the conventional logic would hold that we should have to make a few changes to the principal corporate characters (“empowered human resources” in game terms), so as to give the players the impression that they are not simply the redundant mechanisms within the great engine of industrial monasticism that they must by necessity be, but I would argue that we should instead endeavor to fully exercise our opportunity to make this sort of existence appealing through the behavioral conditioning that follows from its association with games. The successful execution of this strategy would mean that the young players will begin to accept and look forward to their inevitable destiny well before they are deemed fit to become one with the economy.

But it need not end with a simple propaganda campaign to increase the adaptability and value of future resources. No, we must devise entirely new strategies against which our competitors will be unprepared (“use elixir of ‘outside-the-box thinking’” in game terms). In the past, the relationship between the publisher and the player was defined almost entirely in terms of the moment of purchase; immediately after the transaction took place, the status of the player dropped from the soaring heights of consumerdom to the level of the leech, whose potential utility is diminished by the advertising resources he consumes without the promise of compensation. This situation clearly puts us at a disadvantage against the foul tyranny of the common man, but with fortune and virtue on our side, we can make these new games reach their true potential and change the nature of business forever (“cast ‘paradigm shift’” in game terms)! The first game in the series, as I have discussed, will be very much like traditional games, but it will mark the beginning of a new era all the same. Through subtle manipulation of the players’ young minds, the early games will stimulate the perpetual consumption of their sequels. With the advance of technology, these programs will become more sophisticated and more addictive, and their focus will begin to change. No more will the repetitive button-pushing of the games affect only an imaginary software world, but the power of millions of young players responding to simple stimuli from a glowing screen for hours on end will be harnessed and used to run my factories and offices. Just imagine it: an entire generation whose purpose in life is to consume and use my products, all the while unwittingly toiling away to fuel their compulsions and infinitely increase my riches and my power! It will be a glorious day when I can outsource all my labor costs to the consumers themselves and have an army stretching to all corners of the globe at my very fingertips! Oh, yes, the possibilities are as endless as the cycle of total servitude that will emerge from the humble seeds of a common video game. I call my grand project “serfing the net”.

Yes, yes, we all know what you think, Mr. Bond. And I should say that you are hardly in a position to lecture me. As soon as the eclipse is complete, that conspicuous clock platform you and the lovely Dr. Schpretweid are suspended from will become a most undesirable piece of real estate indeed, as the missiles begin to launch around you and it collapses into the natural acid spring and hornet sanctuary below. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a children’s hospital to dedicate.

[b]Quina (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
From Square, the makers of Final Fantasy, and Enix, the makers of Bust-A-Groove, comes the all new dancing competition game, Bust-A-Moogle! Watch your favorite FF characters battle it out on the dance floor like only they can.

FuSoYa breaks it down with his bad self.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff1.jpg

Watch Cloud bust it out with the Buster Sword. Is he doing the funky chicken?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff2.jpg

I can't think of a good caption for this one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff3.jpg

Bust-A-Moogle even comes with a SECRET CHARACTER!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff4.jpg

Look for it soon in a store near you.
Power pad sold separately. Strobe lighting effects may cause seizures. If breaking it down lasts more than four hours contact a physician.

Doomgaze (representing the Unne Avatar party):
E.V.O. and Final Fantasy I. Here's the review on GameFAQS:

E.V.O.: The Search for Unne - 10/10

This is a great game! You start as a little orange fish (called a "Carpie") and evolve until you learn the Lefein language and everyone knows you. You eat Black Belts to replenish your health, because they are weak and helpless.

GRAPHICS: 10/10!

This game has the most beautiful sprites ever! No 3D anywhere! I hate 3D. A polygon killed my father :(

SOUND: 10/10!

Great music, too! Almost orchestra-like bleeps and bloops! The sound effect of the Unne-a-saur stomping the BB fans is CLASSIC you should download it.

GAMEPLAY: 10/10!

The controls are very tight, you have just the right amount of MP (9!), and it's very challenging! Good learning curve though, it starts you on weak creatures like BB Fish and Walruses, but at the end there's like... Ninja WarMechs! There should be at least, but I don't know because this game was too hard for me and I couldn't get past the Lichaphibian.

OVERALL: 59/10! But GameFAQS won't let me a$$hols omg :( so 10/10!

Srisly though this is the best game I've ever played! Don't let those idiots on the board with their threads like "Who would win: Dr Unne or Cloud?" and "dr_unne_is_gay" and "y dosn't this gaem have sepritoh!?" dissuade you, this really is a great Square-Enix game!

RENT/BUY: Definitely buy, or like 90 ninjas will beat you!

Maxx Power (representing the Ace party):
ChronoEvo - A Poem of the Ages

Behold the spikey haired one
His weapon glistening in the sun
But wait! What is this?
Six and a half million years prior
Long before the two-legged mammal
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

The fish jump but no air comes
Until the Lavos arrives!
Spined fiend, the most advanced
Foward you shall march into time
The crystal shall aid you!
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

Now we are in the time of magic
So many a floating fortress
Bird men! Flying Mages!
Struck down they all are by your feathered arm
Fall, fall my friends to the earth with me
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

In the land of the middle
There is a war to be waged
Gather your new rodent body
Take the bridge, Climb the mountain!
Two shall be one trusted with the devolved
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

Upright you are in the time that is now
Past and future shall converge on the fair
So much is there to be gained
Yet so much is there to be lost
Gather your arms, much is to be done
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

Darkness shrouds all in the future
See now as you are struck down and born again
High atop the mountain where the Lavos rules
The mechanical men and twisted forms attack!
Run, run, back to the past where the omen lies!
The time stream evolves you!
Look upon your new form

The end is upon us now
Look what evolution produces
Two arms, one body, one purpose
Destroy it, or time shall be destroyed in its wake
Converge through time, evolution turns back and forth
The time stream evolves you!
Shed your old form

Enid (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
Mystic Quest meets Dragon Quest, the best of both worlds.

Chris

02-28-2005, 11:16 PM

All were great... but Quina those pictures were horrible.

eestlinc

02-28-2005, 11:18 PM

that's not a very nice thing to say.

Destai

02-28-2005, 11:21 PM

They got my vote.

boris no no

02-28-2005, 11:47 PM

quinas answer made me laugh out loud!
:love:

Strider

02-28-2005, 11:48 PM

Snizz runs the table, like usual.

Leeza

02-28-2005, 11:53 PM

I love Quina's, but Del Snizz is also awesome as usual. Decisions, decisions. :)

Denmark

02-28-2005, 11:55 PM

Snizz's reply is about 900 words too long for me to read right now, so therefore I have no opinion about it. :\

Election Booth

03-01-2005, 12:03 AM

Once again I look toward the candidates for advice. This time for the FF: Crystal Chronicles forum.

I have been considering purchasing a GameCube. If so I would probably buy Crystal Chronicles. Please describe what makes this game unique, entertaining, and challenging. Do you think I would be pleased with my purchase?

Stupid Moomba 88 (representing the BAotW party):
To be honest, I'm not sure Election Booth if you would be pleased with your purchase because, (let's face it) people are hard to judge. I HOPE you would be, because I certainly enjoyed FF:CC. But, I'll tell you some stuff and perhaps suggest you should check it out.

Righty, if you wanted FF:CC. You'd look for this and then you'd put it in your Gamecube. This is all part of the whole experience I feel. Firstly, the presentation of the game is suburb. Square Enox really went to town, with clearly defined attributes and skills. I feel this is very importanty because Square Enix have strayed from the typical FF formula somewhat, and when I first started playing (I expect like you) I was scared. Scared I wouldn't understand it and it perplexed me. However, it eased me in quite well, with the very beggining itself offering replay value. It doesn't make you work too hard originally for playing, it allows you to take it at your own pace, and I found it quite relaxing. This is to not say it's easy. I'm saying that it doesn't overwhelm you with too many options, and allows you to experience the multitdude of skills when you're ready.

For a start, this meant I wasn't spoon-fed. There is nothing I hate more when a game gives you a small does of the experience, and decides for yourself, when you're ready for the more difficult stages. At the beggining, if you wanted, you could develop your armour, search for secrets and all that. You don't have to mind, and it certainly won't dullen your experience if you don't, but the option in there.

Another difference is that a story runs beside your main task, and that is to collect Mryuhh. Hence, the levels you visit to collect it are based around a element and thus, it guides you through the game my restricting you passage, but not in a way that seems illogocial or story-led. It feels like a fantasy world, and you really are doing the task. You're not just a role, you ARE A person. I found this more entertaining then any other aspect of the game.

More importantly, i won't reveal too much, because most of the entertainment is from surprise. No one likes a film better if someone already told them the end, it's better to discover it yourself. But, some of my friends hated it and thus i suggest you should rent it first, before buying it, because perhaps you might enjoy it more knowing that you're not stuck with it. I loved it, but money sometimes makes you want to enjoy it more.

Chris (representing the #eoff party):
http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/img/test/gamecube/chronicle/logo.gif

The Return of a Legend

Ever since the dawn of the series the quality of the product has always been of a high standard.
The light of a new shine was casted onto the the Nintendo Game cube.
Final Fantasy had finally returned to its origin.
Despite of the hype the game failed to make the return everybody had hoped for, nonetheless its return to the Nintendo Game cube was nonetheless an historical event.

"In the wee small hours of the morning I saw a distant light, the shinning of the light was a distant memory of a past long since gone... the fragile memory, a time of heroes and fiends, a time that bears the memory of redemption... I remember... it's finally returned... Final Fantasy"

Come to think of it; was the game really that bad? No! Not in my opinion.
It has the look, the challenge and most of all the nostalgic feeling to it.
Too many times I've wondered why people dislike it so much.
In my opinion "Crystal Chronicles" is a welcoming change and definitely a game worthy of purchase
... After all who could resist a trip down memory lane?

"The memory tells of a time of legendary heroes, a time where good and evil fought the battle of dawn, a time where even the bravest heart could be deceived... a time long since gone, the time of heroes, a time that many seems to have forgotten"

I tell you of a story, a story of bravery and stout hearted heroes.
Remember the time where heroes were made of everything but fiction? I tell you of a... it's of no use, many seems to have forgotten that Fantasy is all about heroes, princesses and fiends... For years we've been enslaved in endless tales of wars and future events... finally the true colors of Enix is showing, once a gain.
I recommend it to everybody who feels that they've been robbed of fantasy.
I recommend it to everybody who seeks a simple, yet ancient adventure.

Dragonfire (representing the Ace party):
FIrst thing I like about CC is that it has a multiplayer mode. Even though all the players need a GBA to do so, it's still very cool. Multiplayer is very fun. If you have one or two friends that have GBA you will have a blast playing it. When you start you get to nicely
customize your character. The battle system is unlike any FF before it. Not based off of menus, it's active. Teammates can cast spells together to make them more powerful or even create new ones. The game system really encourages teamwork. Unlike previous FFs that you can just make a single powerhouse and just have the others be there for support. The game has well rendered enemies. If you like dungeon crawling games this game is definitely for you. This isn't an RPG like the rest of the FFs are, it's a hack and slash game, it can give you hours of entertainment playing it without getting bored, like most people do in previous games In my opinion this FF should be in every FF fanatics collection. Unlike most of the previous side-series FFs (ex: FF Adventure, FF Mystic Quest, etc.) this one is actually worth playing.

Silverlocke (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
All video games are a waste of money, so what difference does it make? Buy it if you want it.

Jojee

03-01-2005, 12:13 AM

Go Angel of light xD <3

Lmaoo.... YAY Quina! <3 I love the pictures :p I want to buy that game.

Rye

03-01-2005, 12:16 AM

Yay Stupid Moomba. :D

Lord Xehanort

03-01-2005, 12:48 AM

to clarify, I was looking for characters that are playable in any Final Fantasy game that make any sort of appearance at all in one of the kingdom Hearts games. Here's our responses:Ansem (representing the BAotW party):
There are no playable FF characters in Kingdom Hearts. The FF characters are NPCs. Those characters are: Leon/Squall, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, Cloud, Sephiroth, Selphie, Tidus and Wakka.

Kounetsu: The clarification would've been useful when the question was asked... and besides, how can you ask for all of them in the entire series when KHII hasn't even come out yet? We don't even know wheteher or not they're even going to keep all they have of KHII, they could scrap it, it's been done before! CHEATERS!

Ansem: Relax, my answer is fine because it was a trick question when I answered it. I just forgot about the moogles. Either way, it's the most right on the subject... before the clarification, which doesn't really matter because it was made after the fact.

Awrini

03-01-2005, 12:50 AM

I surely hope you aren't waiting on me before you post teh FFT thing.

I don't have time to do it. I mean I haven't been home much and I have midterms, reports and a hellacious cold to get over.

eestlinc

03-01-2005, 01:28 AM

all right then. and yes I was. :D

Quina

03-01-2005, 03:04 AM

From Square, the makers of Final Fantasy, and Enix, the makers of Bust-A-Groove, comes the all new dancing competition game, Bust-A-Moogle! Watch your favorite FF characters battle it out on the dance floor like only they can.

FuSoYa breaks it down with his bad self.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff1.jpg

Watch Cloud bust it out with the Buster Sword. Is he doing the funky chicken?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff2.jpg

I can't think of a good caption for this one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff3.jpg

Bust-A-Moogle even comes with a SECRET CHARACTER!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/Quina/baff4.jpg

Look for it soon in a store near you.
Power pad sold separately. Strobe lighting effects may cause seizures. If breaking it down lasts more than four hours contact a physician.
I'm glad everybody liked my entry, except Chris, but I liked his (I don't hold a grudge). I don't know if I can win against the great Del Snizz though!

Raistlin

03-01-2005, 04:13 AM

Where the hell is Feedback, the best forum?

Del Murder

03-01-2005, 04:29 AM

Maybe he's saving the best for last.

Here's how I have it after 20 forums done:

Ace Party - 5
BAotW - 4
#eoff Party - 3
Unne Avatar Party - 3
Fluffy Pink Party - 3
Elitist Party - 1
Fabio Party - 1

For the record, I don't always pick the funniest one, I pick the one that I think best answered the question/task. The EB forced answers are always great, too. :D

10 more left!

Chibi Youkai

03-01-2005, 04:29 AM

I'm afraid for Video game music/TSW to come out. I don't wanna see how horribly I did compared to the others.

Rase

03-01-2005, 04:47 AM

Hey, don't worry, I'm also in that forum and well... let's say that my confidence could stand to be a tad higher. :)

Jojee

03-01-2005, 05:38 AM

'nano, I'll do your task for ya!! <3

strawberryman

03-01-2005, 05:58 AM

i would say del Snizz was good for the square enix thing, but then i'd have to read it. :rolleyes2

Loony BoB

03-01-2005, 08:03 AM

I'll find another #eoff party member to do the FFT task, hopefully.

Awrini

03-01-2005, 01:52 PM

With the help of a friend *cough* Mindflare *cough*. I was able to get this sent in. So BoB you no longer have to worry about it.

Loony BoB

03-01-2005, 01:53 PM

That's teamwork! :D

MecaKane

03-01-2005, 06:45 PM

I think it's time for another talley of who is too lazy to send in stuff. :O

Denmark

03-01-2005, 06:52 PM

I think that if you haven't sent it in by now you're either dead or don't care. Maybe.

Awrini

03-01-2005, 07:27 PM

I really didn't care, nut ended up doing it anyway.

Dragon Ash

03-01-2005, 07:46 PM

Del Snizz's answer was great but there was something missing, now what could it be... Oh yeah:

"Mwahahahahahaha...!"

Fate Fatale

03-01-2005, 09:01 PM

I'm... soo.. annoyed...

Heath

03-01-2005, 10:38 PM

Snizz runs the table, like usual.
I agree. G'work, Snizz.

Election Booth

03-02-2005, 12:51 AM

I personally found Snizz's response to be a bit tedious, but that's just me. I've seen that show before, I guess.

People who have not yet sent in a response (not including people who I made up answers for because I got sick of waiting):

Lindy
Kalen
Meow
nik0tine
Spaceman Spiff
James Latimer Cockney Rebel
Calliope
redxiii
└┤　∵├〆
DragonflyLex
BlackCape
XoXyunalescaXoX
Takara
edczxcvbnm

I'm sure some of those people haven't even checked their PMs or don't even come here at all ever. All of them are fair game to have answers made up by me.

Anyway, now that enano has joined the fun here's the Final Fantasy Tactics answer. I'm currently playing this game for the first time so all of these answers are spoilers. They will be for you too. So I'll go ahead and mark everything as such. Except the task. And yes I know I misspelled Beoulve. At least I'm playing the game now.

Write a summary of the Beolve family history. Mention all of the significant members of the family and their contributions to life. Include at least one family member that you ahve completely made up on your own.

Misfit (representing the BAotW party):
(You spelled "Beoulve" wrong, lololol) Beoulve family is a well respected family, producing many leaders for the Hokuten Knights. (Heh heh...)
Let's see, there's this Ramza guy. He's pretty insecure about stuff, I don't think he got enough attention as a child.
Then there's this Alma girl, she came from a
different mother than the second brother. And she does drugs. Seriously.
Annnnnnnd there's Zalbag, (Hahah "Zalbag"), an undefeated warrior and a leader of the Hokuten Knights. He's considered holy. Oh, and "a
savior of Ivalice in Gallione." And probably other stuff.
Dycedarg~ haha, who comes up with these names? Anyways, he's really old. And since he's old, he smells. And that's all you need to know.
Balbanes; Former leader of the Hokuten Knights, and achieved the rank of "Heavenly Knight". Then he died.
Smelly Eleni-- This person has a split personality, kills small children, and eats frogs. While they are alive. They get along well with Alma, maybe 'cause they share drugs together, but I dunno. And that's all that I got.

enano (representing the #eoff party):
Balbanes - "Former leader of the Hokuten Knights, and achieved the rank of 'Heavenly Knight.' While other Knights were being defeated, he produced many victories, even when he was outnumbered. A treaty was reached because of the fear he struck into the hearts of the enemies. Poisoned and killed in the latter parts of the war.

Dycedarg - "One of the troop leader[s] under Prince Larg. Your oldest brother. Following his late father, Balbanes' wishes, gave up his position as the leader of the Hokuten Knights to his younger brother. Became the troop leader for Prince Larg. Assassinated Duke Larg during the attack on Bethal Garrison. Retains power, but is killed in an ambush by Zalbag.

Zalbag - "As a leader of the Hokuten Knights, he is considered a 'Holy Knight.' Your older brother. With many victories in the Fifty Year War, he has been praised by King Denamunda as 'A savior of Ivalice in Gallione. Under the name of Beoulve, there is victory.' Fights you as a servant of Lucavi, but is defeated."

Ramza - "Youngest of the respected Beoulve family. He fights his brothers, finding out that they are engaging a war for their own well-being. Finds out about the greed by the Church of Glabados and about Lucavi using the church. He fights for justice of others."

Alma - "Youngest of four of the Beoulve family. Attends the Aristocratic School in Igros. Your younger sister. With yer cheerful personality, she is well liked by everyone. Spending most of her life in a convent, she hasrecently returned to the Beoulve family. Alma is closer to you, as you are closer in age, than her brothers"

Steve - "The bastard son of Balbanes, during the Lion war he spent his days as a drunken slob. His personality is quite shallow, and he tends to flirt with every girl he meets. He was killed in a pub of Ivalice with a beer in his hand and a grin on his face. Rumor has it his last action was flirting with Agrias."

mschmidtFF (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
The Belouve family history is one filled with lies, secrecy and deceit. Balbanes Belouve, a hero from the 50 year war had 2 wives, neither of which were actually in the story, from which they bore 4 children. From the first they had 2 sons Dycedarg and Zalbag. From his second wife he had a son, Ramza, and a daughter, Alma, who were generally looked down upon from the older brothers. Their family also took in Delita and his sister Teta when their parents died. My creative part: The Belouve grandparents, Leonard and Theresa, are not liked to be talked about. During the 50 year war Leonard was one of the highest ranking Generals but sadly he was shot off his horse by an Archer midway through the war. Many years later, after Ramza was born, Theresa had come out to bring the Ramza and Delita in for dinner. As they ran by they knocked her into the water and she was tragically swept away. This is one of the reasons the older brothers despise their siblings so much. :End creativity. Their family served under Prince Larg. Ramza and Alma are in Garland Magic Academy and they find that their father is dead from mosfungus poisoning. We find that this was Dycedargs doing so he could gain enough power so that he and Zalbag could start another war. Alma and Teta are kidnapped, Alma escapes but Teta is killed by Algus under Zalbags order. Ramza is declared to be a heretic after he kills Cardinal Draclau and also finds the Germonik Scriptures. Vormav had captured Alma when he realizes she is the incarnation of St. Ajora.
Dycedarg kills Larg to gain even higher position while Delita also does away with Goltana. Zalbag realizes Dycedarg killed father so he teams up with Ramza and they attack him. Before he dies the Zodiac stone he received from Rofl and Vormav activates transforming him into a creature. Dycedarg teleports himself and Zalbag away and transforms Zalbag into a zombie like state. Ramza follows them to Murond Holy Place and kills Zalbag by his request. Ramza, having now lost his whole family except Alma who is in serious danger, travels through a portal to the death city in Orbonne Monastery. They confront Vormav and he gives his life to summon St. Ajora who possesses Alma. Alma is set free from her possession when Ajora transforms. They defeat her and the airship they were on explodes and everyone thinks they are dead. Ramza and Alma are later seen by Olan riding chocobos at their grave and are never heard from again.

Skye-chan (representing the Unne Avatar party):
This is a short history of the Beoulve family. Spoilers?

Alma Beoulve
Being the only suitable host body that the Lucavi can use to resurrect St. Ajora, she naturally goes and gets kidnapped and makes Ramza save her.

Balbanes Beoulve
The Beoulves' father. He was an honorable man who fought in the Fifty Year War and had kids with two different women. Then he died.

Dycedarg Beoulve
He did a lot of evil stuff, including poisoning his dad. Then Zalbag and Ramza killed him.

Ramza Beoulve
He's the main character, so he does pretty much everything. Play the game, dorks. >=O

Zalbag Beoulve
The lesser of the two evil brothers. He did some bad stuff, but it was mostly to help Dycedarg. When he found out Dycedarg was evil, he killed him, but not before Dycedarg zombified him first. Then Ramza killed him.

Delita Hyral
(Delita and Teta were adopted by the Beoulves after their parents died, so I think they count as part of the Beoulve family.)

After finding out how the nobles manipulated peasants, he decided to do the manipulating for once. He switched alliances constantly and ended up being the king of Ivalice, thereby stealing Ramza's thunder and being known as the true hero of the Lion War. He married Princess Ovelia, and then he went crazy and stabbed her to death. Ovelia might have stabbed him first, so we don't know if Delita died too. This is one of the great mysteries of the game, next to why doing propositions gives you a "good feeling".

Teta Hyral
She basically just gets herself kidnapped and killed. She's not too important.

And the other family member I have to make up...

Katrina Beoulve
Professor Daravon's English teacher. 'Nuff said.

NewBlackMage (representing the Ace pary):
Beoulve Family History

Old Balbanes is the start of the Beoulve Family History. As a former leader of the Hokuten Knights he achieved the rank of “Heavenly Knight”. He died of a cliched illness. Next in line was Dycedar. He was a troop leader for Prince Larg. He was Ramza’s elder and liked to take adavntage of it. He assinated Price Larg during an an attack on Bethla. His bad Karma resulted in being killed by his younger brothers. Next comes Zalbag, once deemed a Holy Knight, he won many a victory in the Fifty Year War. When Dycedar killed him with the power of Lucavi he was brought back as servant to him. In this form, he attempted to kill Ramza.

The remaining Beoulves are Ramza and Alma. Both had gone to Mudrond Death City. Both were thought to be lost there, but recent sighting have people bewildered about their whereabouts. Alma was a sweet girl of 15. She had spent most of here life in a convent. She was taken as a double for Princess Olivia becaause of her eappearance. Ramza, 16, followed her all the way to Mudrond, where her captives took her. Ramza was a strong boy, and with his friend Delita, he was invincible. His journey began when he met the Death Corps. They led him on a path for justice. He wished to destroy them with all will. When he finds that he is a puppet, he rebels and is claimed a heretic by the church. His main goal is to end the Lion War, but it had errupted into so much more…

Psychotic

03-02-2005, 12:57 AM

Misfit's "haha, who comes up with these names?" is a good question. Edmund Beoulve, Frankie Beoulve and Nigel Beoulve are all better...:)

mike without a hat

03-02-2005, 01:00 AM

poo, ive been spelling Beoulve wrong too. :eek:

/hides

Fate Fatale

03-02-2005, 01:03 AM

Told ya'll mine rocked...

NewBlackMage (representing the Ace pary):
Beoulve Family History

Old Balbanes is the start of the Beoulve Family History. As a former leader of the Hokuten Knights he achieved the rank of “Heavenly Knight”. He died of a cliched illness. Next in line was Dycedar. He was a troop leader for Prince Larg. He was Ramza’s elder and liked to take adavntage of it. He assinated Price Larg during an an attack on Bethla. His bad Karma resulted in being killed by his younger brothers. Next comes Zalbag, once deemed a Holy Knight, he won many a victory in the Fifty Year War. When Dycedar killed him with the power of Lucavi he was brought back as servant to him. In this form, he attempted to kill Ramza.

The remaining Beoulves are Ramza and Alma. Both had gone to Mudrond Death City. Both were thought to be lost there, but recent sighting have people bewildered about their whereabouts. Alma was a sweet girl of 15. She had spent most of here life in a convent. She was taken as a double for Princess Olivia becaause of her eappearance. Ramza, 16, followed her all the way to Mudrond, where her captives took her. Ramza was a strong boy, and with his friend Delita, he was invincible. His journey began when he met the Death Corps. They led him on a path for justice. He wished to destroy them with all will. When he finds that he is a puppet, he rebels and is claimed a heretic by the church. His main goal is to end the Lion War, but it had errupted into so much more…

SilverWind

03-02-2005, 01:24 AM

Woooo! Aced ya! Go NBM!!:D

Leeza

03-02-2005, 01:25 AM

Go, Skye-chan. :)

Rye

03-02-2005, 01:33 AM

G'job Miss Fit. :D

Awrini

03-02-2005, 01:50 AM

So, who here at EoFF would own up to being like Steve?

Nice one NBM, but you kinda forgot one little piece of the question.

Election Booth

03-02-2005, 01:51 AM

Time for everyone's favorite game, Final Fantasy XII.

Write a poem describing your hopes for FF12. Minimum 20 lines.

Jack (representing the BAotW party):
HOPES FOR FINAL FANTASY XII

My hopes are neither grand nor small
For this forum at Eyes on Final Fantasy
But are believable and not evangelical
And are not boumd by simplicity

They dictate a well-run chat room
To prempt the coming release
I've seen the deadline, it's coming soon
And I'm sure we want to enjoy it in peace

I don't want to cause desolation here
Nor do I want to create dissolution too
But to be the winning canditate this year
So I can be the best for you

I know all this sounds like empty promises
A internet-friendly politicion like Bush or Blair
But I swear on my mother's life for this
I hope you'll trust your votes with care

For I'm running for this position earnestly
I seriously want to do no wrong
But hey! Lets just have some fun and be happy
And enjoy this place and sing a song

Rye and Psychotic are behind me as well
And I'm sure you've heard of Xander in your day
The Bored Atheists we are and we're wonderful
We were all doing it for Baloki anyway!

I'm the candidate for the Bored Atheists
I feel good about this, as should you too
So please get behind my candidacy, get behind this
So I can enjoy FFXII and EoFF with you

Mirage (representing the #eoff party):

I'm looking forward to XII
Because it will pass the time by
When I have nought better to do
Than play on my ol' PS2
However I need twenty lines
To make this lovely poem legit
According to Election Booth
Four lines will simply not befit
Indeed five four-line verses
Are required to make the cut
Just to allow me to kick
My opponent's poetic butt
For forums and for website
For stats and hats and of course chat
For newbies and oldbies alike
#eoff party is where it's at
So vote for us! For us I say!
Why have it any other way?
For on this year's Election Day
We'll be the one who's here to stay

Mokona (representing the Fluffy Pink party):

I've been waiting...
For a new Final Fantasy game
I'm still waiting...
My hopes are high.
Battles, characters, story...
I want it all.
But Square is changing...
Square-Enix.
Their games are changing too.
But I'm still hoping...
Praying, that FFXII
Will be a good game.
A good Final Fantasy.
But for how long will they make us
wait?
I do not know...
But my hopes are still high,
Even growing higher...
And I'm curious about the new
Battle System.
The random encounters are gone...
Forever?
I do not know...
But I do know one thing,
Final Fantasy
Will always be
The game for me...

Sephiroth1999AD (representing the Ace party):
~ ARISING FANTASY ~

Through eleven worlds we wandered,
Saving crystals, finding Fayth.
Now, at last, a new realm is unfold.
For the third time, never getting old,
The story of Ivalice shall be told.

Soaring is his dream,
To fly through the skies.
An airship, a sky pirate,
What will become of his dreams?
Vaan he is called,
Some call him girly,
But know him, do they really?
A dark hero, a cheerful hero?
Spiky hair, tailed genome, whiny brat?
But while we can only guess,
Truly, what we are all looking for,
A protagonist never seen before.

And what of the heroine?
Be it Penelo, be it Ashe?
A lass who wants peace,
Or a princess, whose face
Reminds us of Yuna's days?

And what of the villain?
A loyal knight, turning into traitor?
Judge, Lucavi, someone never seen?
But we all wish, please be not,
A man with a long, white hair.

Seven active time battles were fought,
"Repetitive!" many of us clearly thought
Something new, interactive struggles
No random combat, bring back classes
Magic and new Summons shall arise!

Through eleven worlds we wandered,
Dragons arising, planets weeping.
Medieval fantasy, futuristic sci-fi.
For the twelfth time, ever just as bold,
Magic returns, the fantasy will be told.

DragonflyLex (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
this poem has
one word for
each post i
have ever made.

The Summoner of Leviathan

03-02-2005, 01:53 AM

Kawaii!!! Mokona's is in pink^_^ Go Pinkers!

Destai

03-02-2005, 01:55 AM

Nice one Seph :moomba: :up:

Agent Proto

03-02-2005, 02:17 AM

Seph's very well done. I approve. :thumb:

Kirobaito

03-02-2005, 02:33 AM

Nothing Snizz ever does is tedious. That's why he's the greatest person alive today. He didn't even have to plan that response. His rhetorical skills are greater than any other person I've ever met. And his was funny, anyway. There's no reason he shouldn't win that topic. And anyway, he can just change the results with his mind if he doesn't win.

Del Murder

03-02-2005, 02:37 AM

Like I told the Booth, I found Snizz's entry a little too highbrow for my tastes, except for the Bond bit at the end. I like the short and sweet approach.

My vote is for Quina. Probably the best forum yet.

Del Snizz

03-02-2005, 03:12 AM

I personally found Snizz's response to be a bit tedious, but that's just me. I've seen that show before, I guess.

I always welcome thoughtful responses to my work, and criticism of its faults is particularly valuable. If you could give me some advice as to how to give the audience a more powerful impression and thus to avoid the problem of posts that are no more than a bit tedious, I would really appreciate it.

And, on topic: good work, whichever party I’m in!

Kirobaito

03-02-2005, 03:15 AM

Two Del posts in a row. Let's celebrate.

Del Murder

03-02-2005, 03:21 AM

I just hope this doesn't go over like the last time we met...

RSL

03-02-2005, 03:22 AM

Still no Feedback? Ah well.

Awrini

03-02-2005, 04:08 AM

I just hope this doesn't go over like the last time we met...

What!? No Del vs Del action. Where is the fun in that?

Del Snizz

03-02-2005, 04:23 AM

What!? No Del vs Del action. Where is the fun in that?

I'm afraid you're not scheduled to have any fun until the fall of 2028. And if you keep encouraging us to bring about the end of all civilization (which, incidentally, would not default your life-planning contract), I may have to push back the date of your next experience of even the slightest joy in life further still.

And, on topic: I live in the ocean.

Del Murder

03-02-2005, 04:29 AM

What!? No Del vs Del action. Where is the fun in that?
I might be able to squeeze you in. I'm not as busy as The Original.

Agent Proto

03-02-2005, 04:32 AM

The only Del vs Del action you'll see is in the Screen Name Tournament.

Samuraid

03-02-2005, 05:26 AM

I can do nothing but applaud Mirage's poetry as it is clearly the best. :D

Rye

03-02-2005, 11:43 AM

Awesome job, Jack. *likes being mentioned* Your poem rocked!

Psychotic

03-02-2005, 11:57 AM

Instead of Del vs Del action, what about Del on Del action? Huh? Huh? :joey:

PS: A winner is Jack.

Loony BoB

03-02-2005, 12:24 PM

Go Team! :D I'm liking the results. Oh, and I chatted to Spiffers yesterday, he'll definitely get his entry in, he's workin' on it. :)

On a sidenote, the thought of both Del and Del posting in the same thread for a consistent period of time is, to me, awesome beyond words. Even seeing a few posts by the two of them amongst each other in this thread put a huge smile on my face. Good stuff. :)

Sefie1999AD

03-02-2005, 01:00 PM

What I find weird is how Fluffy Pink and Ace are pretty much the only parties who are having something to say about FFXII in their poems and having the focus of their poems on what they want about the game, while many other parties seem to go somewhat off-topic and praise their parties instead of talking about the game. Oh well.

The Square + Enix game ideas were all great! Some parties had reviews, some had poems, some had screenshots (those were cool!), and some were explaining the features of the game.

boris no no

03-02-2005, 01:32 PM

thats because we're cool! :cool:
we don't need to advertise! :love:

*vote pink fluffy*

Destai

03-02-2005, 04:25 PM

having never played the game I thought mschmidtFF FFTactics answer was great and informative.

Jojee

03-02-2005, 04:31 PM

a thoughtful summary, msch! ^_^~ also great poem, Mokona <3 It was sweet.

Mokona

03-02-2005, 04:56 PM

a thoughtful summary, msch! ^_^~ also great poem, Mokona <3 It was sweet.
Thanks! :D

mike without a hat

03-02-2005, 07:47 PM

having never played the game I thought mschmidtFF FFTactics answer was great and informative.

Thanks! i was worried i was going to mess up big time.

Fate Fatale

03-02-2005, 08:42 PM

So, who here at EoFF would own up to being like Steve?

Nice one NBM, but you kinda forgot one little piece of the question.
Heh?.... *goes and looks at the prompt* OH! Fudgernugets! oops... lol, I was doing homework at the same time... thats what I get!

Dragon Ash

03-02-2005, 08:59 PM

Heh?.... *goes and looks at the prompt* OH! Fudgernugets! oops... lol, I was doing homework at the same time... thats what I get!
Shame on you! Pointless, imaginary elections always take priority over your education. I'm personally disgusted. :mad2:

Fate Fatale

03-02-2005, 10:52 PM

Good for you... -_-

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 12:53 AM

Snizz, I think long rants in French would be just a bit less tedious enough to both sufficiently irritate the censors and enthrall the nation. A monocle will help this also.

Now let's post Video Game Music/The Spirits Within forum. This task presented a choice of tough options:

Choose one:
a) record yourself singing Suteki Da Ne. (with or without accompaniment, in any language you prefer)
b) draw a picture of Nobuo Uematsu. (doesn't have to be accurate)
c) create a short flash parody of The Spirits Within (two minutes or less)

Sweet_Angel (representing the BAotW party):
I told you I'd do a new song to 'the Spirits Within' here it is... Sorry the late... if I have time later I'll sing it...

My Fantasy Dream

I thought I had woken up of a nightmare
Because you were far away from me
All those screams and dreams I had to bare
All these destruction that I had to see

All of this is what happen
When you're nop here
My dream, my fantasy
that will last for eternity

I had to escape of my fate
Altough my love for you wasn't fake
The prof was that we met again
Happy like a child with his paper plain

I can't be away from you
All that I did was for your good
My love, my dream, my fantasy
that I'll remember for eternity

Let the birds sing out loud in love
Let our lips surrender to each other
Forgive me for the things I have done
Let just focus on each other

All my nightmares were true
But they didn't warn me of you
My dream, my fantasy
that I'll remember for all the eternity

You'll never desappear
Coz u'll breath within my heart
Within my spirit
You'll always be here
No one can tear us appart
Our love is infinit

I thought I woke up of our dream
But you weren't there
I thought that it was real
But you were dead

Chibi Youkai (representing the #eoff party):
choose option a. I think this thing makes me sound younger than i am, though.

:p here (http://www.aiyon.com/keke/01_-_fourthtry.mp3)

Dark_Paladin_Cecil (representing the Ace party):
Yep, this is it. It's AMAZING! :rolleyes2 Stupid school work, wasting ,y time... :mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/RyanStage/docu0002.jpg

Agent Proto

03-03-2005, 12:56 AM

Uematsu endorses the Ace Party! We win!

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 12:57 AM

Chibi's link won't work, but she still wins because she was willing to sing.

I like the fact that every entry did a different option.

Psychotic

03-03-2005, 12:59 AM

Uematsu endorses the Ace Party! We win!I thought it looked more like Steven Hawking or Bill Gates. Or Unne.

And what the hell IS it with the #eoff Party and singing/rapping terribly? MY EARS. :(

I liked Sweet_Angel's new song. :roll:

And yes it does work KB.

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 01:01 AM

Just remove one of the Http://s. My browser didn't.

Pretty good, too. Pencil up another win for the #eoff party.

EDIT: God bless Texas.

SilverWind

03-03-2005, 01:11 AM

Go Uematsu!...and Ace!

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 01:22 AM

I fixed the link. Now here's another exciting forum, the General Final Fantasy forum. Everyone knows the greatest moments of this forum were the character tournaments. They also took a long time to organize, so let's pay tribute now:

Who won the EoFF Character tournament? Who did the winner defeat in the championship? Who won the EoFF NPC character tournament? Who did the winner defeat in the championship?

Pure Strife (representing the BAotW party):
1) Cloud Strife I believe, who fought off an army of small European midgets to claim the title.

2) This one went to Beatrix, who had to fend off a large armoured man who was following a young woman around and insisting she "return to his castle".

Ichimonji (representing the #eoff party):
Who won the EoFF Character tournament?
Cloud Strife took the prize with a whopping seventeen votes in the EoFF Character Tournament.

Who did the winner defeat in the championship?
Cloud Strife gracefully defeated Locke Cole who was close behind with thirteen votes.

Who won the EoFF NPC character tournament?
Beatrix from Final Fantasy IX narrowly won the EoFF NPC character tournament with twelve votes.

PearlRose (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
EoFF Character tournament:
In a battle of the blondes between back-to-back titles, the guy with the really big sword managed to pull the championship from his opponent, the greatest "treasure hunter" in all of two worlds!
[VI's Locke Cole vs. VII's Cloud Strife. Cloud won.]

EoFF NPC Character tournament:
The final matchup came down to a clash between the old and new, as the guy who healed your party each time you fought him battled the girl that likes to take your party down to 1 HP every time you fought her. The swordwoman's Save the Queen managed to pull one last victory from the guy that's able to pwn a prince with a single attack!
[IX's Beatrix vs. IV's Rubicant. Beatrix won.]

BlackCape (representing the Fabio party):
well, Yuna should have won, and Yang's Wife was way underseeded.

Other (representing the Elitist party):

Who won the EoFF Character tournament? Who did the winner
The winner of the EoFF Character tournament would be Other! Other characters besides the common characters are far superior with their other powers and knowledge of other kinds of magic. Without these other characters, there would be none of the above. None of the above is the most evil character ever, and should never win any character tournaments.

defeat in the championship? Who won the EoFF NPC
roffle. I have no idea what this miniscule part of the question is asking. :cool:

character tournament? Who did the winner defeat in the championship?
I'm not Other as far as I'm aware :p

Flamethrower (representing the Ace party):
The finals of the Final Fantasy Character showdown pitted FF7’s main character, Cloud Strife, against FF6’s treasure hunter, Locke Cole. The winner? Cloud. Let’s all take a moment to try to act surprised by that. Seriously though, no shocker there. Humongous sword + wacky hairdo + big-breasted girlfriend = all the ingredients to a fanboy’s wet dream.

In the finals of the NPC tournament, Beatrix, the lady general from FF9, narrowly beat out FF4’s Rubicant, the nicest villain you’ll ever meet. It just goes to show that swords and big breasts are an unstoppable combo.

XoXyunalescaXoX (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
http://error4o4.rakugaki.net/photoz/ax03/ax03_yunalesca.jpg

Psychotic

03-03-2005, 01:29 AM

...Small European Midgets. Why do ALL of our answers refer to midgets? Rye had Midget Lust XXX Volume 3, Fuza had midget tux Vincent, and now Striff does this. Of course, there IS a reason for it. What is it? Ah, that would be telling. ;)

Humongous sword + wacky hairdo + big-breasted girlfriend = all the ingredients to a fanboy’s wet dream.Yeah, damn FFVII fanboys, they can be pretty irritating. But what are even MORE irritating than them? FFVI fanboys. (Not implying that Flamethrower is one, I don't go to the FFVI forum anymore so I wouldn't know) I'm not saying FFVI is a bad game, it's not and I really enjoyed it, but it's just the attitudes of the die-hard fans by calling everyone who likes newer FF's fanboys. Ugh. :D

EDITATION!: EB have you got Takara's answer? I know she was working on it today, so that should be in soon, if it isn't already.

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 01:39 AM

Though XoXyunalescaXoX's answer was made by EB, it's still better than all the others. :/

Flamethrower

03-03-2005, 01:44 AM

Just to clarify, I wasn't referring to just FFVII fanboys when I made that comment (in fact, FFVII is my favorite game in the series), but RPG fanboys in general. :p

Just wanted to say that everyone has had really good answers so far! Discounting the Ace Party due to personal bias, I'd have to say that the BAoTW party has had the best answers so far in general. Even if they are my party's rival, gotta give props when props are due. ;) Still, good effort by everybody.

Go Ace!

eestlinc

03-03-2005, 01:48 AM

I have not received any submissions today at all. Except Yunalesca's of course.

Samuraid

03-03-2005, 01:51 AM

Pure Strife didn't answer the second question which shows the lack of attention exhibited by BAotW. :p

Ichimonji did an excellent job. :D

Chibi Youkai

03-03-2005, 02:21 AM

And what the hell IS it with the #eoff Party and singing/rapping terribly? MY EARS. :(

I liked Sweet_Angel's new song. :roll:

And yes it does work KB.

I was so not rapping, meanie. I don't even like rap. My mic isn't that great, being six or so years old, so it didn't come out very well.:crying2:

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 02:22 AM

I tried to save the best for the last few, and of course any discussion of bests at a FF message board has to include Final Fantasy VIII. So here it is:

Prove that Rinoa = Ultimecia. Feel free to use mathematics or the I Ching, but you may not use the word "junction" in your response.

Trumpet Thief (representing the BAotW party):
There are many reasons which prove that Rinoa is in fact Ultimecia. One of the things that stands out the most, and makes this theory more believable is the GF known as Griever. Squall shows it to Rinoa near the end of Disc 2, and whatever you name it, that is the name of the GF that Ultimecia has.

Another idea, that makes you believe that Rinoa is Ultimecia is the fact that sorceresses don't age. Because of that, maybe she will live to see Squall die, as well as her other friends, making her more of a twisted person, and eventually, go up to the point that she is the sorceress that is trying to control time.

This point might in fact be a coincidence, or something that proves that R = U. Ultimecia's castle is placed right on Edea's orphanage. The same orphanage where Squall promised Rinoa that: "I'll be here waiting for you, I promise." If he was truly waiting, then he would probably be right there.

Near the end of the game, when Squall is thinking of Rinoa before passing out, her faces eventually turns into Ultimecia's. This might have been something put in, just so that it could be "cool", or it could also be something, to link those two together. As well, it has been shown that Rinoa has white wings, and Ultimecia has black wings. That could mean that, through time, the colour of her wings changed, as her own self changed.

Other than those points, there is the most obvious thing. They both look alike.

"Reflect on your..."
"Childhood..."
"Your sensation..."
"Your words..."
"Your emotions..."
"Time..."
"It will not wait..."
"No matter..."
"...how hard you hold on"
"It escapes you..."

Those are quotes from the final battle with Ultimecia. Think about it.

Squally Leonharty (representing the #eoff party):
Err... That'd require me to look up a lot of things, which I seriously have no time for. Also, Rinoa is not Ultimecia and that has been proven several times, so I won't bother proving its counterpart. I'll give you two links with proper proof that Rinoa != Ultimecia and that should do it.

- http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/2003/q2/062303dcb.html
- http://www.square-x.com/news/169

Sorry if I disappoint you, but I only joined this election thing because Daniel/BoB asked me to. I figured that'd nice for me as long as I don't have to spend a lot of time to this. Well, there ya go. :p

louby_4eva (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
OMG!! :eek: I knew this was going to be the question.

Okay, so Squall gave Rinoa a ring with griever on it, she never gave it back and then Ultimecia has a GF named griever.
Ultimecia's castle is next to the orphanage where Squall said he'd wait for Rinoa......coincidence, I think not.
Sorceresses don't age, Adel's from the past and she's still alive and Cid is loads older than Edea, it's possible that he was younger when they got together (makes no sense but I'm pretty sure thats one of the reasons).
Ultimecia wants to kill Squall because he got older and died, she didn't, she went a lil mad and tried to kill him.

That's all I can think of. Just for the record, I don't belive the R=U theory.

Yamaneko (representing the Unne Avatar party):
42.

└┤　∵├〆 (representing the Elitist party):
Well, first you have to remember that Ultimecia is junctioned with...crap :p

Silmaril (representing the Ace party):
Rinoa ( Renova: to renew, restore, revive; Reno: to return, to swim back.)

Ultimecia (Ultimus: on the farther side, that is beyond, later, most distant, uttermost, extreme, the final.)

1. Appearance

Sorceresses do not age, why? Bcause it never in the whole game speaks of any sorceresses dying. I it is true sorceresses do not age, rinoa, being a sorceress could live on and become Ultimecia.

Ultimecia's final form in the last battle exhibits two sides. Also, if you remember in the ending battle, the face of Ultimecia is blanked out. During the ending FMV, Squall sees visions of Rinoa, but her face is also blanked out as well.
Then, you have what may be the most eerie piece of evidence. In the ending FMV, images of Rinoa's face are quickly interlaced with Ultimecia's.

2.Griever

Now this is a big indication that its true: Rinoa 'borrows' Squall's griever ring, yes she does get Zell to make a copy, but she never gives squall his back, this is proven at the field when rinoa says "I have this dream, I get all dressed up and put on your ring... etc...".

Just before you enter Galbadia garden, you get to name the ring, (the default is griever). Ultimecia has a GF called Griever, (or whatever you name the ring). If you remember, you get doomtrain out of solomons ring. its possible Griever is gained from Squall's ring, which Ultimecia would have if she is Rinoa.

3. Angel Wings

Ultimecia has black wings, (The black wings symbolize hatred, desire to suppress and oppress etc.). Rinoa has white wings (The white angel wings symbolize purity, friendship, inncocence but above all goodness). there is a lot of emphasis placed on rinoa's wings (on her costume, and limit). black = evil, white = good. it would be a natural progression. that is backed up by these shots taken from the ending. It appears Rinoa's wings are changing from white to black. The opposite colored wings were to represent that Rinoa stood for light and love, while Ultimecia was the antithesis of all that: darkness and nothingness, as Ultimecia intended to erase all of time, and rewrite it in her own image. The concept of good versus evil was represented in these two Sorceresses.

4. Location, location, location.

Rinoa and Squall promise to meet at a "certain place", the place where Ultimecia's castle tends to be.

On disc 3, Squall says to Rinoa at the field next to the orphanage "I'll be here waiting for you i promise ... etc..." and suddenly the whole intro makes sense. Now is it just a coincidence that Ultimecia's castle is placed exactly next to this? Why would Ultimecia park her castle there when she has anywhere in the whole world to put it? She is waiting for Squall at the field.

5. Motive

a. Absence of Sorcerer’s Knight:

No Squall, no knight. Her powers made her immortal, or at least with an obscenely long life. When she simply outlived Squall, her broken heart and loss of knight was probably too much for her, her memories slowly faded and she went mad. Her broken heart fueled her eventual hatred and all she could vaguely remember was "SeeD". Perhaps her time compression was not to destroy the world but to reconnect with Squall, but the evil in the power of the sorceress itself consumed her.

Edea: Ultimecia is a very fearful sorceress. Her heart is filled
with anger and hate.

Conversation with Squall:

--------
Esthar Airstation: Rinoa? The sorceress!? She's on the ship!?

Squall: (So... It's true? Rinoa is a sorceress?)

Rinoa: I've... become a sorceress. I can't stay with you anymore, Squall.

Esthar Airstation: Respond, Ragnarok!

Rinoa: I don't want the future. I want the present to stand still. I just want
to stay here with you...

Squall: (Rinoa...)

Esthar Airstation: Respond, Ragnarok!

Rinoa: Nobody would want to be around me anymore...

Esthar Airstation: The sorceress will be seized upon arrival. Be sure to follow
the crews instructions.

Rinoa: I'm... scared.

Esthar Airstation: Squall, do you copy? Is the sorceress listening, too?

Squall breaks off contact with the Esthar Airstation.

Rinoa: I'm scared, Squall.

Squall goes to Rinoa.

Rinoa: I don't wanna go back.
--------

Look at that line: "I don't want the future. I want the present to stand
still". If that doesn't sound like a reason for Time Compression I don't know
what does!

Later on Squall vows to be her knight, even if she fears she may turn bad. He
will not destroy her even if she does, he will stand by her. So it is easy to
imagine them becoming corrupted in the future. Her love for him provides
motivation to compress time in both scenarios, either lost in limbo or safely
back.

b. Loss of Squall:

See point a. Rinoa lost the love of her life because of her powers.

Thus,

Rinoa = Ultimecia
L.H.S = R.H.S

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 02:33 AM

└┤　∵├〆 wins.

GhandiOwnsYou

03-03-2005, 02:38 AM

*claps* well played played folks. I'm a bit sad people missed one major point though. In the opening FMV, when Rinoa is running to Squall, both white AND BLACK feathers are flying about from her.... *eery music*

....

r=u. hahaha.

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 02:47 AM

I was so not rapping, meanie. I don't even like rap. My mic isn't that great, being six or so years old, so it didn't come out very well.:crying2:
Psy is just jealous because HIS party was not brave/smart enough to sing for an election.

And plus, you actually sounded pretty good. :p

Thirdly, what's wrong with rapping? :confused:

Del Murder

03-03-2005, 02:49 AM

KB, we need to come up with your rap name.

To stay on topic, anyone brave enough to sing for all of us gets my vote, even when it has nothing to do with the question...

Psychotic

03-03-2005, 03:10 AM

Psy is just jealous because HIS party was not brave/smart enough to sing for an election.

Thirdly, what's wrong with rapping? :confused:Um, nowhere specifically states you HAVE to sing. So jealous? Me? Haha, I'm more than content with our answer for that question. After all, it's not a "smart" thing to do if it sounds bad. :)

Nothing wrong with rapping in general. Everything wrong with YOUR rapping KB, to which I was referring (Not Chibi Youkai's...who didn't rap)

Oh, and by └┤　∵├〆 wins, don't you mean Election Booth wins? I'm pretty sure he was behind that answer. :D

Del Murder

03-03-2005, 03:14 AM

I thought Youkai did a great job, especially since the song was in another language. KB was good...for a white boy :p

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 03:16 AM

as long as I am running the elections there will be singing involved in some way. I am very pleased that a couple members took me up on the request.

I think the last forum was great, so I'd rather wait a while to post the next, but I want to get these forums posted before I die, so here's another one of the big favorites, World Events. Three candidates for this forum didn't bother to answer (although at least one has a good excuse), but that's what they pay me the big bucks to do! Here goes:

What one person or event had the greatest impact on the world during 2004? Was the impact positive or negative? Explain.

DMKA (representing the BAotW party):
What had the biggest impact on our world in 2004 had to be, hands down, the tsunami disaster in Asia. While it didn't affect the western world directly, it affected the planet as a whole. So many lives were lost and establishments distroyed that it affected global economics, geography, and sociology. The aide of nations around the world came into play for the directly affected nations, thus affecting the other nations fniancially. It will also continue to affect us for a great deal of time to come, and the disaster has hardly ended for the countries in need. With all the potential diseases that may arise and spread rapidly due to so much scattered death, along with so much homelessness and torn economics, it will take years to re-establish a place of stability. Not only was the tsunami a huge effect to the world in 2004, but will be a huge dragging effect in 2005 and on.

Chickencha (representing the #eoff party):
What one person or event had the greatest impact on the world during 2004?

I could say it was the American presidential election, but that really had no impact. Nothing changed.

I could say it was the signing of the Magna Carta, but that happened 800 years ago.

I could say it was Michael Jackson, but then I'd have to shoot myself. And I'd rather not do that.

There are many things I could say. But I wouldn't be much of a politician if I made a clear choice and answered the question, now would I? In this upside-down age of cyborgs and space travel that we live in, there are no blacks and whites. Only shades of gray and sometimes brown where some idiot spilled coffee. Sometimes you just have to drop everything, step back, and say "What is this garbage? I thought I ordered clam chowder! Send this back to the kitchen!"

Kalen (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
October 18th, which happens to be the day I morphed into a giant moth and destroyed the entire city of Prague. Buildings taste like burning, people! Robert Smith of the Cure came to stop me but my sheer beauty (even as a giant moth) swayed him to my side.

Meow (representing the Fabio party):
When i think America, when someone asks me to describe it, i try to avoid the abstract. Because how are we as a people tolerant, or self-motivated, or even lazy? Statements like that are horoscope predictions. America isn't having a good relationship week because Mars is in retrograde. We don't define ourselves by the vague everyman cutouts from American Dream construction paper. America is something else entirely. It's cell phones and car radios and forty-hour work weeks. It's Super-Size fries and sport utility vehicles. It's football and movies, hybrid cars and giant airplanes. Americans are electronic junkies and strict Amish traditionalists, Southern Baptists and secular humanists. We've got quantum mechanics and Rush Limbaugh, Jim Rome and cable television. We love our AC and i smile that my own home still doesn't have it installed. We borrowed Beatles mania from across the Atlantic and still can't agree who stole punk from whom. America is staying up late to type out journal assignments, going off to college and never e-mailing your parents, pondering graduate school and eventually becoming an English major because you can't keep your pen off the paper. And simultaneously, it's becoming a chemistry major and working for Johnson and Johnson, and eventually retiring to substitute teach high school chemistry every so often and tell crazy yet unfathomably intriguing stories while the students are trying to take that test. America is manifest destiny, embarrassing history, patriotic pride and civil disobedience. America is the WTO riots. America is Starbucks coffee. America is a jumbled ball of yarn.

George W Bush (representing the Elitist party):
The most influential person of 2004 would have to be Jesus Christ. He's been the most influential person for the last 2000 years and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Positive or negative? Of course his impact is positive! I mean, is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear...well I know you do, Angelo.

SocietyzAntidote (representing the Ace party):
with absolutely NO thought whatsoever, lets go ahead and say George Bush. Lets face it, absolutely no one can manage to polarize the population off the world into two individual seething piles of Bias like and extreme atheist liberal or an extreme christian conservative. Thanks to George Walker Bush, we have something to whine and whine and whine about from whichever view point we decide to support to an incredibly irrational extent, until something happens in this world that we can all bitch about together again! So yeah, Bush had the most impct, but in the worst possible way, by making people whine consistently for extended periods of time.

nik0tine (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
Educators in a small Sutter County school district gathered electronic tracking devices from hundreds of elementary and junior high school children Wednesday morning, ending the controversial pilot program that raised concerns over Big Brother-type privacy violations.

At a special meeting the night before, officials from locally based InCom Corp. announced that they were pulling out of an agreement with the Brittan School District near Yuba City that allowed them to test the devices on the students.

The company markets the badges, which have a radio-frequency antenna that is scanned when students pass through specially outfitted doorways, as a tool for taking attendance and monitoring students' locations.

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 03:17 AM

Oh, and by └┤　∵├〆 wins, don't you mean Election Booth wins? I'm pretty sure he was behind that answer. :D

Actually, I did not write that answer.

Psychotic

03-03-2005, 03:21 AM

Actually, I did not write that answer.Really? Oh, well well done └┤　∵├〆, I guess I should have realised from the :p smiley. (Before I congratulate you on THIS, EB, was the Moth-Prague answer yours? :p)

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 03:22 AM

yes, Kalen has no internet currently so I helped her out. The story is true though. Strangely enough, I only wrote two of the answers to the World Events forum.

Del Murder

03-03-2005, 03:24 AM

I liked nik0tine's 'answer'. I also liked how one of the candidtates picked one of the other candidtates as his answer.

EB you crack me up. To bad you'll probably lose your forum.

Election Booth

03-03-2005, 03:26 AM

yes, that one worked out quite well. nik0tine's answer was randomly lifted from a news site I was looking at. Meow's is actually written by him. I lifted it from his livejournal from last August.

we're down to the final four. Takara is supposedly frantically at work at an answer for the Chrono forum, so I'm holding that one a bit. A&W is the same thing, basically, except with Spaceman Spiff. Calliope is also supposed to do a A&W response but I think she won't get it done.

Gen chat might have to go up next, or Feedback, although redxiii actually PMed me to say he was working on his Feedback answer.

Miriel

03-03-2005, 03:39 AM

Spaceman Spiff of all people should have no problem with the A&W task. *whipcrack* Hurry it up!

eestlinc

03-03-2005, 03:42 AM

seriously...

Chibi Youkai

03-03-2005, 04:24 AM

Thanks, you guys. I know it's off topic, but I appreciate it.
I have nothing against rap, I just personally don't like it.

Kirobaito

03-03-2005, 04:28 AM

I hate all rap except for mine.

Del Murder

03-03-2005, 06:04 AM

That should be the title of your first album.

Nod

03-03-2005, 07:15 PM

Silmaril= brilliant answer.:D
DMKA= ditto.:p
Chibi Youkai= the best by far :roll:

Raistlin

03-03-2005, 09:15 PM

*pokes eest*

Feedback. >=o

Rye

03-03-2005, 10:31 PM

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 01:24 AM

I am so tired...and I'm saving Feedback because it's the best and all.

Del Murder

03-04-2005, 01:35 AM

If eest dies because of these elections I'm going to blame each and every one of you.

RSL

03-04-2005, 01:38 AM

Raistlin must've had a pretty awesome answer, or whoever else was in that forum.

Jojee

03-04-2005, 01:42 AM

*pokes eest*

ewwwwwwwwwww. ;_; How many times have I told you to stop that!?

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 01:46 AM

the following people are not my friends and are being slow as hell or totally indifferent to their assigned tasks. I recommend they not be given a candidacy in any future election:

Lindy
Spaceman Spiff
Calliope
redxiii
Takara
edczxcvbnm

I think I'm going to post gen chat anyway.

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 02:00 AM

ok, time for one of the Big Daddies of the eoff elections, General Chat forum. This is a tough forum to assign a task for since it really doesn't have a topic. However, those who make Gen Chat interesting are ones who make good threads. Therefore:

Start a thread in general chat. Do not tell anyone that this thread is a required task of the elections. The thread can be on any topic. PM the link of the thread to me. In a week I will post links to each thread in the elections forum. Your goal should be to make an original, entertaining thread that does not get closed.

Haha, in a week. Well, it's been about 12 days now. Please click on the links and read the threads. Hoepfully you will be entertained. Here they are:

Spritz (representing the BAotW party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=56935

fire_of_avalon (representing the #eoff party):
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?p=997442#post997442

clouded sky (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?p=997814#post997814

Leeza (representing the Fabio party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?p=996318#post996318

Whoops! I missed the part that said that the thread should be original and entertaining! Oh well. :)

Mr Graves (representing the Unne Avatar party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=57121

Miller Family Dog (representing the Elitist party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=56916

Agent Proto (representing the Ace party):
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=56796

Lindy (representingthe Anti-EoFF party):
<a href=http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=56227>here's the last thread Lindy posted in Gen Chat, which was quite some time ago. And it got closed.</a>

Del Murder

03-04-2005, 02:04 AM

Proto makes a lot of threads. He should have chose the post counts one instead.

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 02:07 AM

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 02:08 AM

Yeah, I do. I are the r0x0rs. Four threads within the week. =o

Kirobaito

03-04-2005, 02:43 AM

Wow, this is starting to be a blowout. Chalk up another win for the #eoff party, thanks to foa's VERY original thread about farting.

Trumpet Thief

03-04-2005, 02:45 AM

Rubedo: Wow, I've seen a lot of great responses. Keep up the good work. :)

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 02:46 AM

Who cares about farting?

Kirobaito

03-04-2005, 02:48 AM

I do. *farts on Proto*

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 02:48 AM

Oh yeah. *farts on YOU*

Jojee

03-04-2005, 03:11 AM

clouded sky so wins this one. I mean, Legos? Who can resist... ^_^

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 03:17 AM

here comes Arts and Writing. Spaceman Spiff really missed out on a task he should have dominated. Also, Calliope sadly fails to add her unique brand of creativity to the mix. I'll try to help them out. Anyway, times a wasting so here goes:

Depict either visually (can be drawing, paint, etc) or in writing (either poetry or prose) the famous Calvin and Hobbes bedtime story "Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooey"

Jellisaurus (representing the BAotW party):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/foogle/Image2.jpg

Spaceman Spiff (representing the #eoff party):
<img src=http://www.creativeprocess.net/resources/curideas/images/scribble1.jpg>

Miriel (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Emoticons01/_safety__by_Spookeriffic.gif HAMSTER HUEY AND THE GOOEY KABLOOIE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/hannahgoesrawr/HamsterHuey.jpg)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Emoticons01/_safety__by_Spookeriffic.gif

It's a long image so ya gotta scroll. :) (EB: you also might want to turn off auto-resize if you can)

Calliope (representing the Fabio party):
splatterpuss muchinus alloverus
gooey kablooey chop suey dewey and louie
panzerfascists make the world blow up
crazy hamsters sticky, yup

hatdancingliest Max Angst feely fongst
ooglyboogly mewtwo baddadarronnnngst
andandandandand just maybe youll be the
one to save me whooooooooooooooooooosh

cowboy hats in bebop flats got a knick knack
from the rat pack OMG EEST SAW JACK
kenicholsonotto i declare toDAY the benningest
DAYglo cheerios quick now ON YOUR TOES

because the nose KNOWS like the knowman
got a plan for vegan nation Uzbekistan and Nachan
flyers and clothes dryers and Finnegan just woke up
from Calvin's Noise and Hobbes's Leviathan

Lucky Charms (representing the Ace party):
This is my party's entry. Huey Hamsters see life imaginatively, Gooey Kablooey's do not. Here we see imaginative Calvin with his best friend Hobbes retelling the story he heard last night. As he's retelling it he's going into character hence the hamster suit look. As Susie approaches him he explains to Calvin cooly that he sees things more creatively like Huey Hamster rather than the plain ol' Gooey Kablooey's in the world like Susie. :)

http://carmiechan.homestead.com/files/huhagoka.jpg

I decided to depict Calvin and Hobbes because they represented two imaginatively depicted characters who love to explore the world through the process of their own mind. Also, since the origin is from C&H I decided to creative a message from it, as the author advised to do so if we wished. Light colors were used to show subtlely, which natural representing the lightness of the creative youthful mind.

James Latimer Cockney Rebel (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
I HAET EOFF, you suck.

<IMG SRC='http://usera.imagecave.com/jemleykenato/YuffieKay.jpg'>

Vote Anti-EoFF, or Yuffie thinks you suck too.

Awrini

03-04-2005, 03:17 AM

But pr0tat0... oh that's scandalous! Isn't it?

Jojee

03-04-2005, 03:39 AM

Haha Miriel... that was so cute! Especially the hamster xD We take this one, no question.

Kirobaito

03-04-2005, 03:51 AM

If you can't understand Spiff's abstract drawing, then you truly don't know art. That is golden, Spiff.

Go #eoff!

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 04:10 AM

you mean the drawing i found when i googled "scribble"?

Kirobaito

03-04-2005, 04:13 AM

SHHHH

strawberryman

03-04-2005, 04:22 AM

you mean the drawing i found when i googled "scribble"?
This proves that you CAN and WILL find almost anything on the internet.

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 04:24 AM

For our penultimate forum we have the inimitable Chrono TriggerCross forum. After almost two weeks I have a whopping two responses for this one, but it's a pretty good task I think:

Find the funniest Chrono Trigger or Chrono Cross (or both) fan website you can and provide the link. Please be careful to check the site for porn since the links will be posted in General Chat.

Takara (representing the BAotW party):
http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/crono/home.htm

The "about" page is pretty funny, especially this part:

Version 2 (Current):
Version 1.5 was a step in the right direction, but version 2 is a total redo. Better, faster loading, easier navigation, faster...and I finally changed that boring banner. I added a few more section. Started this new version on January 1st. I did keep the 'blue' theme however. and I think it works pretty well. I wanted this site to reborn with the new year...2005. Oh yeah, the font finnaly got bigger too.

Nice site, dude.

MecaKane (representing the #eoff party):
First I found this (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shuster/ctdance.html) but the hampster dance is old. Then we found this (http://llv.keenspace.com/) but sprite comics are lame. Then we found this. (http://clanwhitefang.org/chrono/) And it wins, because of
http://clanwhitefang.org/chrono/pics/transformers.jpg
:D

strawberryman222 (representing the Ace party):
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8311/index2.html

edczxcvbnm (representing the Anti-EoFF party):
http://members.aol.com/octsangel/frames.html

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 04:27 AM

Kane clearly wins this one.

strawberryman

03-04-2005, 04:30 AM

My link was terminated. I lose. :cry:

Edit- Awesome.

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 04:31 AM

no, I fixed it.

Del Murder

03-04-2005, 04:38 AM

he did update which one he wanted and I accidentally posted the old one first, so maybe you saw the wrong thread depending on how quickly you clicked the link. Then again, I don't think it matters so much.
I did click the wrong one. That one was much better. :) He would have gotten my vote anyway since he comes up quality threads on a consistent basis, no offense to my dawg.

EDIT:
<img src="http://clanwhitefang.org/chrono/pics/pub.jpg">
'I like to think that Magus would eventually be more of a nice guy.'

Awesome. Good work Kane.

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 04:41 AM

so who's ready for some FEEDBACK?!?!?!?!

RSL

03-04-2005, 04:42 AM

not me

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 04:47 AM

anyone else?

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 04:49 AM

Come on, let's do Feedback now! =D

Del Murder

03-04-2005, 04:49 AM

Is that the last one?

eestlinc

03-04-2005, 04:49 AM

one more person has to post asking for it.

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 04:50 AM

Where the hell is Feedback? >=o

Samuraid

03-04-2005, 04:50 AM

MecaKane wins. Hands down.

Feedback! :D

RSL

03-04-2005, 04:51 AM

Why oh why did you save feedback for last? I can't live up to this pressure.

Del Murder

03-04-2005, 04:51 AM

Oooh, main event time.

Raistlin counts as seven members. You forgot that.

Yeah, it's going to be hard to top 'Crono on a Unicycle'.

Agent Proto

03-04-2005, 04:54 AM

Oh man, I just realized redxiiii was the Ace candidate for Feedback and he hasn't got anything in. Shame on him ;_; Oh well.

Election Booth

03-04-2005, 05:08 AM

so here we come to the last of the last, the best of the best, the whiniest of the whiniest, the Raistlinest of the RSLs, the Feedback forum. We might actually get to start voting and stuff this weekend after I post this one. I hope you enjoyed the tour of 30 forums. For the record, I received 132 submissions. That's a lot and surely a participation record for the elections. Anyway...

Choose one:
a) Discuss the use of acoustic feedback in various forms of rock music. Give examples of bands that use it to varying effect.
b) Write an example of a question you will be made fun of for asking. Be creative.
c) Give Election Booth feedback on the structure and quality of the 2005 elections.

Denmark (representing the BAotW party):
b) Write an example of a question you will be made fun of for asking. Be creative.

Okay, so when I first received the Private Message from the ever intriguing Election Booth, I was...not so much intrigued, more disappointed. But let's not think about that. The reason I'm here is to ask a question I will be made fun of for asking, right? Well, at first I was going to ask one of the old standards, namely "how do you revive Aeris?" But then I thought, Hey, I can do better than that. I wanted to come up with a question so unique, so utterly stupid, that I would be remembered forever at EoFF as "the guy who came up with that really stupid question in that election thing". But then again, how hard is it to say something at EoFF that you could get made fun of for asking? I mean, with disgruntled old men like Bleys and Raistlin around, it's almost impossible to not be made fun of. But little me, I had big dreams. I wanted to be made fun of by some stupid newbie. Lofty expectations, right?

Rydia's Secret Lover (representing the #eoff party):
C.

The 2005 election is quite possibly the most involved and complex election yet. I can't say this with 100% certainty as this is only the second election that I have ever paid attention to, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one.

There are only a few things I would have changed. First, the time period between announcing the rules and closing party registration was pretty long. I don't know exactly how long, but it seemed like a long time. While this gave people the chance to throw parties together at the last minute (like the anti-eoff party), it has also made me lose a little interest in the whole thing. But this is minor.

Another thing is the "no staff can lead a party" rule that was sort of thrown out the window anyway. The reason for this is that everyone knows that the staff are clearly the only ones capable of running a party. They are also the only people capable of programming a VCR, running a marathon, and batting .400 for an entire season of baseball.

The last thing is even more minor. 30 forums seems like a lot. It might have been easier on everyone (especially Election Booth) to have combined a few of the forums. But I can also see the positives in this. It gave more people a chance to join in on the fun. However, only a few parties were capable of getting 30+ members, giving them an advantage. Or is it an advantage? Only time will tell.

The organization of the elections this year is top notch. You can tell that Election Booth put a lot of time into this. It just feels a lot more official than in the past. Having certain requirements for each party was great. I like how this resulted in a fair amount of parties, but also a managable amount. Having each party pick an official slogan, mascot, and banner was nice as well.

In conclusion, you really should vote for me because Raistlin sucks.

Raistlin (representing the <s>crotchety old geezer</s> Unne Avatar party):
b) Write an example of a question you will be made fun of for asking. Be creative.

Hey, all, I just have one question - Can you make a Newbie Forum to get enough members to make a Food forum to create the interest for a Birthday forum to make people happy enough for a Leaving/Returning forum to get enough geeks to make a Computer/Web Design/Technical Forum for which we'll then need a Spam forum to then get enough cool people for a Flaming/Battle forum to get enough of Bleys to make a Swearing forum in order to get me for a Oldbie Forum(R.I.P Eeyore's) in order to get even more of Bleys for an Anime Forum for which we'll then need a Music forum and then when I leave make an ORPG forum and then to release all this competitiveness we'll need an Event/Competitions Forum, and then we'll need forums combining all of the above forums, so then we'll need a Forums Suggestion Forums for suggesting forums like Xenogears(<3), and for all these newbies we'll need bigger avatars and since this question is so cool you'll need to archive this thread, and since we'll have all these cool people can you bring back post counts and then immediately make me a Cid's Knight and/or administrator?

Thanks for any and all answers.

Del Murder (representing the Elitist Party):
Sure I could choose option b and say something like 'Is Raistlin annoying/Does RSL crap in the woods?' or come up with some sort of question involving a crotch or ShlupQuack's buttocks, but instead I decided to be serious for a moment and talk about my good personal friend, Election Booth.

Election Booth was born the lovechild of an elevator and a pencil sharpener. His father was an alcoholic and his mother used to turn tricks down on old JFK Drive, a block past Maple. At 16 he had enough and left home, and that was when he started to get into politics. He was a gopher for Gore 2000 but the controversial Florida vote caused him to begin to lose his faith in democracy. That was when he discovered Eyes on Final Fantasy. He joined the forum in 01 to take over as the leader of the forums elections, and what an elections they were. The next year he (or she, rather) returned for another campaign, but the interest was not as great as before. In the 03-04 season the format got a massive overhaul, resulting in a return to the popularity it once had, and saw it achieve new heights. Now, in the 05 campaign, EB has outdone himself again, and we have the most popular elections to date. Here are testimonials from some of his closest friends:

Award Guy: EB and I dated for a while in late 02. It was the same old story. Trophy meets recycle bin. Trophy and recycle bin fall in love. Recycle bin catches trophy with his sister. Other than that, our professional relationship has been quite strong, and I respect what he does.

Raistlin: I've been a member of this board for 18 or 19 years now, and I must say that our current election format is the best ever. Well, not as good as it was back in the EZboard days, but we can't expect that from someone with a member id over one thousand.

EoFF Sniper: [not available for comment]

Del Murder: The elections have always had a special placce in my heart. In 01 it was the thing that kept me going to this website, and if not for them I likely wouldn't have came back and a lot of things wouldn't have happened. Nait did a good enough job, but let's face it, I don't even think he knew how his voting system worked, so it wasn't the mechanics that made that event so special. The next time it was taken over by DC, aka Sakura Yume, and while her system at least made sense, it was too straightforward. It's not that she did a bad job, it was just that her job wasn't very memorable. I can remember some of the parties but not much from the event itself. eest changed all that when he took over. Last year I didn't like the grouping of the forums, but once I found out what he had in mind it made sense. Coming up with specific tasks for the candidtates was brilliant, and likely time consuming. The elections stopped being about making a couple original and a couple unoriginal parties and spamming up the joint; there was an actual event and structure to it. He even came to me for the idea of a secret party and I thought that was really fun. This year he took it a step further. Each freaking forum has it's own question, and they range from the simple to the detailed. I like how some of the questions are completely straightforward, forcing the candidtates to use their own creativity in answering them, but on the other hand some of the answers can be boring when that happens. The best part about this method is that now we can vote for who came up with the best answer, rather than just voting for our party resulting in the party with the most members always winning. Quality over quantity! The tasks along with the official FF mascot put some much needed FF back into this FF board. And who knows, maybe he has something else in store for us. It's the little things, too, like random 'no staff leaders' rules, or 'you can start your thread in whatever forum you like' comments, and of course the Ultros theme. In the future I'd like to see more wacky and subtle rules and maybe a couple really bizarre questions, like 'what did you think of General Leo's hair style' or 'dress up as your favorite ffx character and take a picture of it'. Then again maybe those are there, I haven't seen all of the questions. I can imagine how much work it would take to make up an original task for 30 forums and then keep track of it all, so I'm not sure if he can continue that output on his own without dying, but if he can, great. Otherwise he knows where he can get help. In conclusion, eest saved the elecions much like Josh Smith saved the Dunk Contest.

repo man: *throws wrenches*

And for the hell of it, here are some more 'make fun of' feedback questions:

Can we have a repo man forum?
Why can't Linus make threads but Joel can?
Can we have a Monty Mole avatar?
The staff made a slight mixup and rather than politely and civilly point it out I'm going to make some kind of sarcastic and boastful post and expect to be taken seriously and at the same time bask in my 'wit'.
Can we have a Rad Racer forum?

redxiii (representing the Ace party):
http://www.yolatengo.com/sellout/beanbath310.jpg vs http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/tootlben/banda01.jpg

Wow, these bands have been around a long time, which makes them perfect for feedback because everyone knows only partially rotten corpses hang out in the feedback forum.

Anyway, both Yo La Tengo and Sonic Youth rock out to some serious acoustic feedback. You should check out the SYR series of self released album from Sonic Youth which are the feedbackiest. They pretty much have to win over Yo La Tengo just because like, no reason man except feedback is all about arbitrary decisions and I just made one.

There are plenty of other bands that throw around the crazy noise but these are crappy poseur death metal bands and crap. I mean, if you are really into death, why don't you just kill yourself and save me the trouble of doing it? There's some feedback for you, you sorry no-skillz-having losers.

Also, Kim Gordon is hot. Now excuse me while i go stare at my shoes...