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Joshkabob
02-26-2005, 03:49 AM
I found Hojo to be the hardest boss...It took me a few trys, until I found out I had a ribbon.

cloud20747
02-26-2005, 04:13 AM
That Frickin door in the temple of the Ancients was an pain in the ycc (Al Bhed)

Cuchulainn
02-26-2005, 04:29 AM
In my 1st playthrough oh so many a moon ago, the Materiakeeper and that b*****d door of the TotA had me literally in tears. They were hellish.

Maya
02-26-2005, 08:21 AM
Yes, that damned door in the ancient temple.
It was the most pain in the ass. Even Sephiroth was childs play comparing to it.

TheSpoonyBard
02-26-2005, 02:15 PM
Yes, the Materia Keeper (Mt. Nibel) and Demon's Gate (Temple of the Ancients) seem to be the bosses people have the most trouble with. Another noone has mentioned yet is the Carry Armour (Underwater Reactor). These bosses are not hard, it just takes a few goes before you find out how you should prepare yourself and which attacks are the most effective.

anima977
02-26-2005, 02:19 PM
I had a pile of trouble with that two headed thing you have to fight in the cave after climbing the mountain. I also got stuck on demons gate.
grrrrrrrr

Ultimate99997
02-26-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm not sure but I think that during the period of time where you try to find your way out of the temple (the clock hands room) there is no possible way to return to a place where you get random encounters therefore you cannot level up and strenghten your characters. This means that if you are simply not up to the required levels you can find it almost impossible to beat Demon's Gate and can't carry on wih the game.

I probably found this boss the worst pain in the neck due to this reason.

Shoden
02-26-2005, 03:05 PM
i beat the door with ease it was slow and cloud had climhazzard :D

i say Diamond weapon it took me 15 attempts to kill him and i didnt have time to get a ribbon. what happens if you let him do what he wants and let him go to midgar?

Destai
02-26-2005, 03:16 PM
My first time playing the doom gate had me stuck for weeks. I had trouble with the schizo twins and still have trouble with the dock carrier. I found Diamond really easy (and really fun) He just stops and waits for you to attack once he reaches a certain point on land.

Sepho
02-26-2005, 03:26 PM
I agree that the Demon's Gate and Materia Keeper (along with the Carry Armor, to throw in another one) are the bosses that give players the most trouble.

I remember, on my first playthrough, using Finishing Touch on the boss instead of Meteorain. What a mistake.

Joshkabob
02-26-2005, 03:28 PM
I had trouble with the twins too, took me a few tries.

Heartless Shadow
02-26-2005, 03:38 PM
Demon gate and materia keeper were the bosses that got me

Ultima Shadow
02-26-2005, 05:42 PM
On my SCIENM play I had big trouble with that machine with 2 annoying arms in that underwater place.

The New Kid
02-26-2005, 05:51 PM
Demon's Gate was not nearly as hard as Materia Keeper to me. DG took maybe 5 trys. Maybe I got lucky. But Materia Keeper was so hard. It was like a brick wall. I stopped playing for a month after the 20th try. But then I had to start a new game, because there was no way I was going to beat this boss after a month of not playing.

I got Schizo, Carry Armor, and Hojo down the first time I tryed. :D

Max
02-26-2005, 06:31 PM
ugh that oss in buhguhugans temple. That thing really pissed me off.

cloud20747
02-26-2005, 08:23 PM
ugh that oss in buhguhugans temple. That thing really pissed me off.
Luckly me, I had Cure2 :)

ShunNakamura
02-26-2005, 08:34 PM
Only one boss has really stopped me and made me take a few tries at it... it was none other then carry armor.... he had a habbit of killing off my lowest hp character in the first 3 or 4 turns and then picking up both my others before I could raise the 3rd or anything... even if my bars were full. Anyways it took me a while till I got lucky and it picked on cloud rather then Yuffie(cloud had more hp thus giving me enough time to take out an arm)

MK was tricky... the first time on him he took out a good chunk of my hp and had me on the ropes for a bit... but I still beat him... the gate thing you are talking about feel with such ease it wasn't funny...... the dragon before it gave me more trouble then it.

The New Kid
02-26-2005, 08:41 PM
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Red Dragon. He was, actually, more difficult.

Jojee
02-26-2005, 09:16 PM
*shrugs* That one boss... in that one place... y'know, the ShinRa port ish place >_> I don't even remember the game, lmao. Anyway I remember that boss annoyed me... cos' he picked people up and sucked up their HP and wouldn't put them down. Anyone know what I'm talking about? ...Or maybe I'm on another game here... :|

Sepho
02-26-2005, 09:24 PM
Yep, the Carry Armor. It gives many people trouble.

cloud20747
02-26-2005, 10:15 PM
Only problem I had with the Materia Keeper was that I had Vincent in my party with his very first limit break (Gigas or something) and the MK absorbs fire....Damn that was bad, He transforms abd Heals the monster after I damage it!!

Swordicanus
02-26-2005, 10:28 PM
i will tell u the hardest boss or rather enemy RUBY WEAPON :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :

cloud20747
02-26-2005, 10:31 PM
OH YEAH, still haven't beat Ruby (need good stragey because I'm lvl 93)

Swordicanus
02-26-2005, 10:35 PM
yeah im lvl 89 and i havnt been able 2 beat him even though ive tried for years HELP :( :(

Ultima Shadow
02-27-2005, 12:06 AM
How to beat Ruby Weapon the enjoyable and correct way: Remove all your materias, get 99 X-potions, some hero drinks, as many elexirs you're able to get and 99 Dazers. You'll fight Ruby Weapon with Yuffie (you should have her ultimate weapon) so make sure she have good equipment and also put "sadness" on her. Cast stop on Ruby Weapon with the dazers, make yuffie stronger with the hero drinks and heal with the X-potions and the elexirs. This battle may take a few hours and if you missuse as much as 1 second you may get Game Over. :)

How to beat Ruby Weapon the boring and wrong way: Equip KotR linked to HP absorb and have both W-Summon and Mime equiped. Use Hades to cast stop on Ruby Weapon and then W-Summon KotR and mime it over and over again until Ruby goes down. :(

crashNUMBERS
02-27-2005, 12:12 AM
Ruby weapon.

Zangan
02-27-2005, 12:15 AM
I would agree with the Demon's Gate and Materia Keeper assertions - but one that had me stumped not so long ago (and considering I've been playing 7 for years and no longer have problems with either of the latter) was the bird/falcon boss you fight in the Wutai side-quest. Anyone remember that one?

If you're unready, he has a wind attack (Aero I think) that takes about 2000-3000 off and poisons you. The git.

krissy
02-27-2005, 12:56 AM
Cosmo Canyon boss

i haven't levelled up since the beggingin of the game. i was on like, level 17.
two weeks
didnt know you could kill it with a phoenix down

i was 12 :{

Dr.K
02-27-2005, 01:03 AM
Carry Armour I'd say. If it catches you unawares it's rather hard not to lose. Materia Keeper takes a bit of a beating too.

Sepho
02-27-2005, 01:14 AM
I would agree with the Demon's Gate and Materia Keeper assertions - but one that had me stumped not so long ago (and considering I've been playing 7 for years and no longer have problems with either of the latter) was the bird/falcon boss you fight in the Wutai side-quest. Anyone remember that one?

If you're unready, he has a wind attack (Aero I think) that takes about 2000-3000 off and poisons you. The git.

Would you be referring to Don Corneo's pet, Rapps (or some similar spelling? Apps was the monster in the sewer after your first meeting with Corneo, I think). I remember him; Barret's Mindblow limit break - assuming it's powered up beforehand, and you can use it at the start of the battle - takes care of that problem.

Otherwise, if your party has just the right amount of HP, in general, the attack can result in 3 limit breaks.

Zangan
02-27-2005, 01:17 AM
Rapps, that's the one . . . I would use Barret, but I hate him. *sigh*

ShunNakamura
02-27-2005, 02:17 AM
I never had trouble with rapps... I just Use Cid, Cloud and some one else. With cid I cast/throw a demi effect and shave off alot of hp.. adn then I follow up with a regular attack or another demi from teh third character and cloud hits with a limit.... I think I only had climhazzard but ti was enough.

Cuchulainn
02-27-2005, 02:45 AM
Ruby & Emerald are pretty easy ONCE you know what to do & they're optional so I don't think they should count. (suppose that counts out Rapps then too, who I forgot about & yes, 1st play through=Many Game Overs).

as for Ruby, I never used W-Summon & FORGOT to put a Ribbon on Yuffie & Cid So it was Small+Frog Hell, but I beat him with the old KoR/Mime trick & endless Cornucopias (sp?) and Maiden's Kisses. (I had no other Materia equipped except KoR+HP Absorb) on Cloud and Mime alone on Cid & Yuffie...All ended well & I got the pointless Desert Rose 4 my troubles...damn that thing, Emerald was worth It though, getting the Master Materia WITHOUT Melding them all was heaven (I, for sum reason, excluding 'All' only ever want 1 of each Materia..don't ask).

So yea...Materia Keeper, Carry Armor & Demon's Gate seem to be every1s hardest fights.

cloud20747
02-27-2005, 02:48 AM
But the thing is that, I don't have to fight Him to get the Desert Rose because I already bred a Golden Chocobo (Lucky Me :) )

Cuchulainn
02-27-2005, 02:53 AM
that's why I said it was pointless, if you read how I beat him you would have figured I had 1 too :)

Slade
02-27-2005, 03:13 AM
I found this game extremely easy and the only boss i found hard was the evil wall in the temple of the ancients (im not counting the optional bosses here). He was hella annoying.......and he still sometimes gets on my nerves. The monster with the chicken head and serpent head up on the mountain just before north cave was sort of hard too.....

Jojee
02-27-2005, 06:07 AM
Ruby weapon took me a couple tries the first time. Emerald wasn't that hard... but, he scares the ASDFKJh out of me every time I go underwater and he's just RIGHT THERE @_@;;

Ultima Shadow
02-27-2005, 10:47 AM
Carry Armour I'd say. If it catches you unawares it's rather hard not to lose. Materia Keeper takes a bit of a beating too.
Yea... and on the SCIENM play you'll die if it does the catch thing even once, since it's a solo character challange.

Swordicanus
02-27-2005, 01:17 PM
yeah i got emerald weapon down on one knee but he keeps doing that move that takes 9999 out of everyone even though i have final attack attached 2 phoenix he just keeps killing me with it i heard the less materia you have equipped the less damage he takes with that attack but i havnt tried it yet :cool:

qwerto
02-27-2005, 04:24 PM
Carry armour and the two headed dragon in north cave took ages...
And Hojo was way too hard... so I got my friend who had never played FF in his life do it... and he did!
Demon gate was hard, but its best to train in the cave and get your limits up.

Sepho
02-27-2005, 06:17 PM
yeah i got emerald weapon down on one knee but he keeps doing that move that takes 9999 out of everyone even though i have final attack attached 2 phoenix he just keeps killing me with it i heard the less materia you have equipped the less damage he takes with that attack but i havnt tried it yet :cool:

Yep, you heard right. Unequip any non-essential materia before the fight.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
02-28-2005, 01:27 PM
Yeah, the last time I played, I leveled up normally, and never really stopped to level up my characters. Materia Keeper used to be hard, but I just lvled up Vincent's limit break to 2, and the MK wasn't that bad.

I thought Carry Armor was going to be hard on my not uber strong characters this last playthrough, but nobody past Schizo was that bad, for some reason.

This last playthrough Lost #, Rapps, and the Demon's Gate gave me some trouble. Hmm, I guess I shouldn't have used Cait Sith and Cid on Rapps, but I eventually beat him after I was able to use enough limit breaks. Demon's Gate's attacks are really powerful, so you are forced to use barrier materia. On Disc 2, for some reason, the difficulty went down for me. But now, I'm having trouble with Safer Sephiroth. I guess I need to be quicker using barrier, I guess. Also, I want to beat him with just two characters.

Ultima Shadow
02-28-2005, 05:45 PM
Also, I want to beat him with just two characters.
Why 2? Try a solo! :D

Cuchulainn
02-28-2005, 06:19 PM
Try Ruby Weapon, Solo with no Ribbon, there's a barrel of fun to be had....I mean cmon, your a frog or a Minime taking on Earths Defender & you can win...

Ultima Shadow
02-28-2005, 08:46 PM
Try Ruby Weapon, Solo with no Ribbon, there's a barrel of fun to be had....I mean cmon, your a frog or a Minime taking on Earths Defender & you can win...
Ruby without materia is much more fun. :cool:

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
02-28-2005, 09:28 PM
Man, that sounds ridiculously hard. Only if I could survive all his attacks, and he can't kill me after one hit, and my elixers last longer than his HP. If something doesn't hold, I think it would be impossible. This is actually how I fight Zeromus in FFIV. All my characters keep dying except for Cecil, so I just attack and use elixers.

Joshkabob
02-28-2005, 11:40 PM
I don't remember MK, carry armor was a cinch for me...fluke?

Chopseuy
03-01-2005, 12:15 AM
My first time through: The Wall Monster. Why? Cause I never bothered to level up Aeris. I mean, shes weak as hell! And I didn't know what was to come. So I had to make a new game, since I tried everyway mortality possible. This time, I stayed in Wutai and leveled up to level 45. Whose laughing now, bastard?

(Emerald Weapon and Ruby? Hah, what kinda http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif? Too easy. Now if it was Nemesis type hard from FFX, then we'd have a prob here...)

Ultima Shadow
03-01-2005, 11:38 AM
Man, that sounds ridiculously hard. Only if I could survive all his attacks, and he can't kill me after one hit, and my elixers last longer than his HP. If something doesn't hold, I think it would be impossible. This is actually how I fight Zeromus in FFIV. All my characters keep dying except for Cecil, so I just attack and use elixers.
Well... it's completely possible. I've defeated Sephiroth on the SCIENM play... which means I play with a solo character, the first and crappiest equipment and no materia at all. That's pretty hard. I've done it with both Vincent and Cloud. The wallring is very useful, a few hero drinks helps alot and 99 X-Potions is a must-have. I did this at level 70... however... with materia and good equipment it should be possible on lower levels. Sadness + backrow help you survive.

Sepho
03-01-2005, 12:09 PM
The trick to beating Demon's Gate (the wall monster) is to work on a strong defense before going at him with your offense. I'm accustomed to assaulting my bosses and taking them out in a round or two, if at all possible, but it would take some mighty leveling to be able to do this with the 'Gate (unless your Cloud happens to have Meteorain, and that's entirely possible).

Barrier & MBarrier help tremendously, and Haste also takes away some of your disadvantage - the 'Gate sometimes likes to attack several times in a row. The Mighty Guard Enemy Skill is perfect for this fight.

Chocobilly
03-01-2005, 03:59 PM
I know Rapps was an optional boss, but I thought he was super hard... I just kept dying with Aero 3. Anyway, of the not optional bosses, I'd say Carry Armor and Lost #. I died a few times with each of these guys. And Materia Keeper was no cake-walk either: TRINE SUCKS! For a lot of stuff I just use the Big Guard enemy skill and wail on them while I can and when it runs out, cast again if need be. Its seriously been a life saver on many occasions.

Joshkabob
03-01-2005, 04:58 PM
I didn't have a problem with rapps at all, nor lost # or carry armor.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-01-2005, 05:45 PM
They tend to be difficult if you don't have really strong characters. If you don't hardly fight battles just to level up, Rapps is haaaard. But, on earlier playthrus I had either omnislash or meteorrain by then instead of Climhazzard, I think, so Rapps was easy. Also, this time I decided to use characters I haven't used much in earlier playthrus, like Cait Sith. I also used Cid. Well, that's hard, b/c it will take 4 limit breaks to kick Rapps's ass. Cid somehow lasted enough and was also able to use Booster and just barely beat him. Took me like 5 tries.

Chocobilly
03-01-2005, 06:06 PM
One reason I say that Rapps was hard is because I rely on Materia a whoooole lot. I don't attack much during battles unless its with Cloud.

So I am not used to battling with just attacking and using those crappy items on it.

Cuchulainn
03-01-2005, 06:16 PM
I completely forgot about Lost Number...yea in my virginal playthrough he not only caused me trouble but made me Shii myself. The WORST boss (in relation to difficulty coupled with Level) was Proud Clod, what a big white elephant & just exactly WHAT was that Materia Jammer supposed to do? I never noticed it jamming anything...

Swordicanus
03-01-2005, 06:34 PM
how many people here have beaten emerald weapon and how did you go about it cause ive been trying for ages and i really need 2 beat him 2 gloat 2 a friend of mine :cool:

Ultima Shadow
03-01-2005, 06:53 PM
how many people here have beaten emerald weapon and how did you go about it cause ive been trying for ages and i really need 2 beat him 2 gloat 2 a friend of mine :cool:
Make sure all character are at level 80+, make sure they have maxed HP+ materia and 4-cut + ultimate weapons equipped. Also make sure to un-equip all un-neccecarry materia. Then just enter the battle, haste your party, protect with barriers, heal when needed and slash away with 4-cut and limmitbreaks. It's just as simple as that. :cool:

Swordicanus
03-01-2005, 07:30 PM
thanks dude

Sepho
03-02-2005, 01:32 AM
Beating Emerald and Ruby is just a matter of mass preparation (but some, like Ultima Shadow, can kick their arses with even an extreme handicap)

For both of them, my materia setup looked like this:

- Knights of the Round (at least level 2 - mine was mastered) + MP Absorb in a linked slot. (one character)
- Phoenix + Final Attack in a linked slot (both of which at at least level 2 - both of mine were mastered) (one character)
- W-Summon (equipped on the same character with Knights of the Round + MP Absorb)
- And I had every character equipped with a Mime materia (I fought a lot of Magic Pots) (all characters)

I also had each character equipped with two mastered Magic Plus materia, so each Knight did 9,999 damage, and when I W-Summon KOR and mime it twice, I dish out just under 750,000 damage in one round (and take down Emerald in under two full rounds; but Ruby likes to interrupt with a counter to KOR). However, in the case of Emerald, those two extra materia per character may be the thing that pushes Air Tram Stomp to cause enough damage to kill your characters. I'm not sure, because I kill him before he uses it. The extra 2,000 - 3,000 damage per Knight may not be worth it, because Emerald will fall relatively fast, anyway.

biff0465
03-02-2005, 01:37 AM
i think that carry armor (just before you get the submarine) is the hardest mandatory boss. and i think that emerald weapon is unbeatable

Sepho
03-02-2005, 01:42 AM
Ruby and Emerald can be tough, but they just take a lot of preparation to be able to beat.

And I always get more irritated by Ruby. Emerald has more HP, but you can't just start up the battle with a fully healed and prepared party against Ruby. That, and the fact that he likes to counter Knights of the Round and break your rythm makes him a tougher opponent, I think.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-02-2005, 01:51 AM
Try equipping (Phoenix)-(Final Attack). That should take care of that 9999-all attack. At least until you run out of stars.

Joshkabob
03-03-2005, 10:54 PM
I tried emerald at level 30 some.

ScottNUMBERS
03-03-2005, 11:17 PM
ami i the only one who didnt find demon gate hard? :confused: the hardest boss for me by a longshot was safer sephiroth that took me about 5-7 trys was very fun :p

DMKA
03-06-2005, 06:54 PM
For some reason, Demon's Gate was sooooooooo hard my first playthrough...now it's so, so easy. O_o

Umm, since apparently we're only talking about manditory bosses, I'd have to say Hojo's third form...it's just so annoying when he hits you over and over and he does every damn status effect on you.

Luthien Rogue
03-06-2005, 07:07 PM
For some reason, Demon's Gate was sooooooooo hard my first playthrough...now it's so, so easy. O_o

Same here. I couldn't beat him first time. Now I know to level up first. >.>;

Ultima Shadow
03-06-2005, 07:13 PM
but you can't just start up the battle with a fully healed and prepared party against Ruby. That, and the fact that he likes to counter Knights of the Round and break your rythm makes him a tougher opponent, I think.
He? HE!? Ruby is a SHE! A female! After all we've been trough... don't tell me that she just made a sex change... :(

Try equipping (Phoenix)-(Final Attack). That should take care of that 9999-all attack. At least until you run out of stars.
Emerald have no 9999-all attack. Like people have already said, it just depends on the amount of Materia equipped.

gil-galad
03-07-2005, 03:35 PM
the Materia Keeper (Mt. Nibel) and Demon's Gate (Temple of the Ancients) were certainly the two bosses that gave me the most grief

CloudStrife48
03-07-2005, 09:59 PM
The hardest boss is simple: The Final Battle in Cloud's Mind against Sephiroth! :p

TheSpoonyBard
03-07-2005, 10:08 PM
The hardest boss is simple: The Final Battle in Cloud's Mind against Sephiroth!
Please say you are joking!

CloudStrife48
03-07-2005, 10:12 PM
Please say you are joking!

Yes my response is a joke. The true toughest boss I've EVER faced is Ruby Weapon. I simply hate him. Any other boss is a piece of cake! (Emerald is a joke but tough still)

Ultima Shadow
03-07-2005, 10:22 PM
Please say you are joking!
Really... none could say that without joking, so if you even doubt that he was joking... then you're scary. :cool:

The true toughest boss I've EVER faced is Ruby Weapon. I simply hate him=he, not female. Any other boss is a piece of cake! (Emerald is a joke but tough still)

He? HE!? Ruby is a SHE! A female! After all we've been trough... don't tell me that she just made a sex change... :(

CloudStrife48
03-07-2005, 10:33 PM
Really... none could say that without joking, so if you even doubt that he was joking... then you're scary. :cool:

:eek: I learned something new.

Shoden
03-07-2005, 10:36 PM
ok Ruby= he for now

Ruby is a really difficult and annoying boss Emerald is slightly easier because he doesnt kill 2 ppl at the start of battle and prevent your escape

Swordicanus
03-12-2005, 03:46 PM
i fought emerald with about 4-5 materia per person and he still took 9999............I give up im obviously not good enough even though ive had this game ever since it came out and done everything else oh well :cry:

The Triumphant Hero
03-12-2005, 03:58 PM
Ruby & Emerald are tied. Only two I got killed by.

qwerto
03-12-2005, 04:11 PM
I find the 5 pyramid thingies really difficult and have not defeaten them yet...

second are the Emerald and Ruby weapons... its unfair...

Shoden
03-12-2005, 04:23 PM
probably by storyline bosses i'd say Diamond weapon it took me 11 tries to beat him 1st time through next time i'll remember the ribbon

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-13-2005, 12:48 PM
I find the 5 pyramid thingies really difficult and have not defeaten them yet...

You mean the pyramids in the debug room? Just attack the one in the back, and you automatically win.

Shoden
03-13-2005, 04:00 PM
pyramid thingies?

Swordicanus
03-26-2005, 10:26 PM
the hardest boss would have to be the demon door in ancient temple it took me about a week to kill that pain in the ass on my first time playing :freak:

BackRoomKid
03-26-2005, 10:41 PM
I've played over VII so many times...but out of all those times...I only beat Ruby once, i never wanna play him again

Shoden
03-26-2005, 11:39 PM
i beat Demon Gate in 30 mins Materia Kepper was a bigger bitch

Joshkabob
03-27-2005, 12:20 AM
I killed demon gate in about 7 1/2 mins.

Masamune·1600
03-27-2005, 01:07 AM
i fought emerald with about 4-5 materia per person and he still took 9999............I give up im obviously not good enough even though ive had this game ever since it came out and done everything else oh well :cry:

Everyone prior has undoubtedly been referring to Aire Tam Storm. You'll notice that 'Aire Tam' spelled backwards is 'materia', which hints at the technique's actual effect. It does 1111 damage for each piece of materia a character has equipped. Therefore, it will deal 9999 damage to a character with nine or more pieces of materia. In your situation, the move should have caused 4444 or 5555 damage. Are you referring to something else?

BackRoomKid
03-27-2005, 07:37 AM
was it called materia keeper? the wierd robot before getting the Junon Huge Materia? That guy was so annoying...especially when he grabbed your character (of course Cloud, your strongest) and then used Lapis Lazer....got me so mad

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-27-2005, 08:09 AM
No, Materia Keeper is the large arachnid boss at Mt. Nibel.
Carry Armor is the mechanical creature in Junon who grabs your characters.

Swordicanus
03-27-2005, 12:57 PM
Everyone prior has undoubtedly been referring to Aire Tam Storm. You'll notice that 'Aire Tam' spelled backwards is 'materia', which hints at the technique's actual effect. It does 1111 damage for each piece of materia a character has equipped. Therefore, it will deal 9999 damage to a character with nine or more pieces of materia. In your situation, the move should have caused 4444 or 5555 damage. Are you referring to something else?

no i'm saying even with only 4-5 materia per person he still took 9999 with aire tam storm.... i thought he'd only take 4444 or 5555 like you said but it still took maximum damage it seems to work for everyone else apart from me

BackRoomKid
03-27-2005, 08:46 PM
No, Materia Keeper is the large arachnid boss at Mt. Nibel.
Carry Armor is the mechanical creature in Junon who grabs your characters.

thanx for clearing that up...materia keeper wasn't that bad...have Cloud go crazy with limits, protect aeris, and I had vincent beat the crap outta him

Itsunari 2000
03-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Carry Armor ... took me at least 10-12 tries before I sent him to hell ...

limallama
03-28-2005, 10:45 AM
rapps with aero3, haha seems easy looking back.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-28-2005, 09:57 PM
Yeah, if you take time to lvl up. Not, if you don't. He'll take 4 limit breaks to beat, but unfortunately you only have 3 members, so you somehow have to survive enough for someone limit break to fill from scratch, then you win. Of course, maybe this had to do with my crappy team (Cloud, Cid, and ack Cait Sith). I also forgot about Barret's Mindblow.

limallama
03-28-2005, 10:03 PM
if i remember rightly, i believe i won through great gospel, and using it alot. but training up aeris to get her lvl4 learnt only to have her murdered is the most heart-breaking thing i've ever experienced.

Masamune·1600
03-28-2005, 10:19 PM
Given that Rapps had Aero3, I have to question Square's decision not to include a Wind materia. For that matter, since Gi Nattak had Drain and Aspil, an Absorb materia also would have made sense. Just an opinion.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
03-28-2005, 10:25 PM
Yeah, instead of a lot of items that I never use. How often do people almost never use items? I'll use a little curative, and I'll also use the lv4 lims, but that's pretty much it.

Nanakiroth
03-28-2005, 10:45 PM
Materia keeper and the Carry Armour thing in the Underwater Reactor...

I hate those two... so much. Oh well.

Sword
03-29-2005, 11:09 AM
Materia keeper and Hojo were a bitch

limallama
03-29-2005, 08:32 PM
am i the only one that found hojo easy?
4xcut was the key

FiragaBreak
03-29-2005, 08:49 PM
The weapons would be the hardest to me. The ruby weapon took me 20 TRIES to beat!

RIP Dime
03-29-2005, 09:16 PM
Who Doesnt agree Ruby Weapon, or Carrie Armor, He will use Lapis Laser like 10 times in a row

ehsteve
04-01-2005, 08:59 PM
I thought Hojo was pretty easy, considering that he is really the game's main villain. The hardest for me were, of all things, the Turks. They were pretty easy early on in the game, but when I fought all three of them at the end of disc 2, well, let's just say that I've memorized the little scene that precedes the fight.

Perducci
04-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Hojo WAS easy... At least when I fought him... Carry armour was a tough one, though... It's one of the bosses that I usually don't train enough to beat, so I end up having to go back and gain a couple of levels...

Also, Godo at the top of the pagoda can be pretty hard, especially since I hardly train Yuffie up...

Syncope
04-02-2005, 02:02 AM
The Ultimate weapon is the hardest cause it took me hours to find that guy. It gets really annoying.

Palindrome
04-02-2005, 02:19 AM
Ruby weapon was the only one i didn't beat. How could you have trouble with Hojo :confused: ? I beat him so fast i would barely consider him a boss.

Swordicanus
04-02-2005, 04:20 PM
I just beat the two weapons two nights ago and if you have three mime materia and have knights of round at about level 3-4 you or at least i found them both extremely easy but have patience and train a LOT

Shoden
04-02-2005, 04:32 PM
i beat Gi Natak in 1 minute

[Spoiler] Use an X potion or a phoenix down [/spolier]

Demon Gate was a hard /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif so were Materia Keeper Carry Armour and Diamond weapon (i challenged myself to beat him without a ribbon)

Mercen-X
04-05-2005, 11:38 PM
There was a Japanese Re-RE-release, right?
I want to make a Re-re-RE-release. But I don't just want to remake the game, I want to up the ante on the battle-system and install better graphics. I want to add in all the monsters, bosses, spells, summons, items, and weapons that people wished had been.
I also want to put in better mini-games. I'd like to up the graphics of that submarine battle.

Every boss was simple when the right strategy was used. The only bosses I can't beat are the Emerald and Ruby Weapons.

Ultima Shadow
04-06-2005, 07:00 AM
The Ultimate weapon is the hardest cause it took me hours to find that guy. It gets really annoying.
:love:

Lenna
04-06-2005, 07:09 AM
Demon gate in Temple of the Ancients was really hard for me. Especially when I first tried to beat him.. I mean. It literally took me weeks to kill him.. and when I finally did, the ELECTRIC cut out. Man I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gutted. Felt like throwing the psx out the window. Managed to defeat it straight after tho :D

*Mumbles curses for electricity and its flaws*

Meat Puppet
04-06-2005, 07:58 AM
That scorpion on the first mission. I killed Barrett before we got to the place where the scorpion comes but.. He still made the scorpion come. I haven't gotten past there yet.

Lenna
04-06-2005, 11:53 AM
lol The Scorpian Guard comes regardless of characters being dead or not. Tis whole point of game :P To kill that boss, AVOID hitting him while his tail is in the air. So I'd advise hitting it one at a time and waiting rather than hit it as many times as you can.

Drift
04-06-2005, 12:12 PM
depends on how ur feeling wen u fight the scorpion rly...suicidal? attack!!! dnt wanna die? poke it :D

my hardest boss still is emerald n ruby weapons *sigh*

Lenna
04-06-2005, 12:30 PM
I think Emerald and Ruby are everyones worst boss at some point in time. I mean.. Did anyone ACTUALLY beat them first time they played the game. WITHOUT cheating?

Mercen-X
04-06-2005, 10:16 PM
I've beaten the game itself several times and have seen all the sidequests and "easter eggs" as some call them. Every time I'm at the end of the game, I can't beat the Ruby or Emerald Weapons. I think by this point, I'm so tired from leveling up my characters for the storyline, I don't want to put anymore effort into it. Especially having to equip that Underwater materia just to remove a timer? What's that?

FiragaBreak
04-08-2005, 06:32 PM
If you don't beat the Emerald Weapon before the time goes out you lose. Also I learn that having the Underwater Materia equipped to a certain character allows he/she to do more damage.....I think......?

Masamune·1600
04-08-2005, 10:17 PM
Also I learn that having the Underwater Materia equipped to a certain character allows he/she to do more damage.....I think......?

Since the Underwater materia has only one level, it is automatically "mastered", so to speak. Therefore, it cannot give birth to another Underwater materia. As such, however, the Underwater materia can continue to hold AP beyond the point at which it divides, because it doesn't divide. The materia can therefore hold the theoretical maximum 16,777,215 AP before it resets. Logically, it can be given to Barret to dramatically increase his damage, since his ultimate weapon, Missing Score, powers up based on AP in the weapon.

Weimar Pluto Knight VII
04-11-2005, 01:40 AM
How much AP do you need to get him doing 9999 damage? I'm sure all that AP would be overkill since you can't do more than 9999 per regular attack, or each hit of Catastrophe.

Masamune·1600
04-11-2005, 01:45 AM
It seems likely that it would be most useful in actual application against Ruby Weapon.

Final Illusion
04-11-2005, 04:36 AM
Personally, I think that hojo and the gatekeeper from the temple of the Ancients was rather easy. Emerald weapon is the hardest I belive in the whole game.