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Agent Proto
03-02-2005, 11:48 PM
Ok, after looking at some sprites, I am now confused about the true gender of the black mage in Final Fantasy I. Now, to prove my point, I'll provide some images.

First, I'll provide the image of the Black Mage from FFI

http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy/Party/Black%20Mage.gif

Now let's look at the Black Mages from... FFV

Bartz
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Bartz%20-%20Black%20Mage.gif

Reina
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Reina%20-%20Black%20Mage.gif

Galuf
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Galuf%20-%20Black%20Mage.gif

Faris
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Faris%20-%20Black%20Mage.gif

Krile
http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/Krile%20-%20Black%20Mage.gif

Now, after looking around, I have decided that the gender of the black mage is female. Look at the male characters in FFV. As a Black Mage, each male character was shown wearing pants, and the female characters with just the robe. The black mage in FFI has no pants, and thus is female.

But what do I know? The black mage is probably male after all, but that may be wrong. What do you think? Male or female?

I bet all of you are going to say male. 8-)
Xalioniaf
03-03-2005, 12:02 AM
If it is a female, then it must undergo a sex change after the upgrade. In either one(DoS or NES), it portrays him as a male. NES has him with his hat off, showing a masculan face, and DoS, shows him with pants, and males have pants like you sayz.
Chris
03-03-2005, 12:18 AM
Let's compromise and say its a Shemale

:D
Monol
03-03-2005, 12:28 AM
Well i admire your excellent theory even though im saying black mage is a guy....i mean have you ever seen the black wizard?
Full Moon Coyote
03-03-2005, 01:33 AM
YOU ALL ARE WRONG!

Its plain and simple, the Black Mages are ewoks :D
DocFrance
03-03-2005, 01:34 AM
I'd say the Black Mages are an asexual species of their own, like in FFIX.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-03-2005, 02:24 AM
They couldn't show Lenna, Faris, and Klulu wearing pants as Black Mages, because it's backwards and wrong for women to do such things. Therefore, instead of giving them some weird Black Mage skirt, they simply went back to the old way of just giving them a big robe. It hardly means the robe-wearing Black Mages in any other game are female, though, especially since all the heroes in FFIII are stated as being boys and in FFI the Black Mage goes from no-pants to pants.
strawberryman
03-03-2005, 05:58 AM
I say that they're just the reincarnation of evil, and therefore need no gender.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-03-2005, 05:59 AM
A reincarnation of evil can't be a Warrior of Light.
strawberryman
03-03-2005, 06:01 AM
A reincarnation of evil can't be a Warrior of Light.
Maybe he was bribed.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-03-2005, 06:49 AM
Even if he wanted to, he wouldn't be allowed.
DocFrance
03-03-2005, 07:10 AM
They're the Warriors of Light, not the Warriors of Good. Not necessarily the same thing.
Dignified Pauper
03-03-2005, 07:11 AM
you didn't put an image of FFIII's bm
Sefie1999AD
03-03-2005, 10:50 AM
The Black Mage could be either gender, really. I always thought BM was male and WM was female, though maybe that has something to do with how the 8-Bit Theater shows the two. However, if you press Auto-Select on the names in FF1 DoS, the game can come up with both male and female names for the Black Mage. As for other classes, I think White Mage had mostly female names, Thief and Red Mage had at least one female name (Daryl and Lola), and neither Warrior nor Monk had any female names.
DarkLadyNyara
03-03-2005, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I think it's open to interpretation.
omnitarian
03-03-2005, 04:13 PM
you didn't put an image of FFIII's bm

Since 'Kishi beat me to the FF3 reference...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/omnitarian/cbmage.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/omnitarian/cwarlock.gif
Squall of SeeD
03-03-2005, 04:35 PM
An argument formed on the basis of the clothing can't stand, anyway. Both Male and Female Black Mages wear pants in Final Fantasy: Tactics:

Linkage to the concept art of both Black Mage genders (http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/psx/fft/pictures/wizard.jpg).
Female Black Mage Sprite (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/FemaleBlackMageTactics.gif).
Male Black Mage Sprite (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/MaleBlackMageTactics.gif).

Besides, the Black Wizard (more powerful form of the Black Mage) in Final Fantasy I is obviously Male:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/BlackWizard.gif
DJZen
03-03-2005, 07:48 PM
Oh... I dunno.... I've seen plenty of women who look just like that.
Squall of SeeD
03-03-2005, 07:55 PM
Oh... I dunno.... I've seen plenty of women who look just like that.

Obviously intended to be Male, then.
Xalioniaf
03-04-2005, 03:42 AM
I guess then that if it has no long hair comming out of the bottom of the hat, we can assume it's male? And, I thought Daryl was a guy name. Anyway, since FF1, we have never really gotten a look at the face behind the cleverly-placed shadow.
Crossblades
03-04-2005, 04:05 PM
I believe it's a male
Ultima Shadow
03-04-2005, 06:11 PM
There's alot of females who dress up as males. I would go for female even if it had beard.
Flashback007
03-05-2005, 09:14 AM
Well, I can even tell beter. All the charachters in FF I are ment to be males. Look it up in the game guide you get with it. Even at the White Mage it says "he". So Black Mage is obviously male. And by the way, didn't anyone notice neither of the charachters says what, while normally women would talk the ears of your head, so they are male.
Creeping Shadow
03-05-2005, 07:26 PM
I say that they're just the reincarnation of evil, and therefore need no gender.
so true :cry: these are tears of joy
Fire_Emblem776
03-06-2005, 07:22 AM
male
8 bit theater man!!!
BuzzSaw
03-06-2005, 10:13 AM
I think it's an Orco
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/orco.jpg
Creeping Shadow
03-10-2005, 01:46 AM
I think it's an Orco
http://www.subvulture.com/archive/orco.jpg
what the **** is an orco
Snap Jumper
03-10-2005, 01:54 AM
I think it's an Orco

Yea, but Orco could float, so he must have been a red mage, or Rosa was helping him. Black Mage vs. Bone = Orco vs. Skeletor???
abrojtm
03-10-2005, 04:11 AM
Black Mage is such a blatant rip-off of Orco, it's not even funny. And for all of the unenlightened, Orco is a mage character from He-man.

On topic, BM is clearly a male.
Creeping Shadow
03-10-2005, 01:57 PM
Black Mage is such a blatant rip-off of Orco, it's not even funny. And for all of the unenlightened, Orco is a mage character from He-man.

On topic, BM is clearly a male.
thank you for clearing up who orco is and b.mage is a male :D