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Tidus Andronicus
03-14-2005, 04:46 PM
http://p2pnet.net/story/4205

What a dark day for AIM users... (including me, but I encrypt my conversations in gaim when I talk to other friends in Linux xD)

Monday 14th March 2005 - p2pnet.net News:
You no longer have any right to privacy if you use America Online's AIM software downloaded on or after February 5 last year.

AOL has re-written the terms of service which apply to the application giving itself the right to, "reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote" all content distributed across the chat network by users.

By, “posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium,” it says.

“You waive any right to privacy. You waive any right to inspect or approve uses of the Content or to be compensated for any such uses.”

And, “You Must Agree to these Terms of Service to Use AIM Products,” it dictates.

That about says it...
So what do you think this means for AIM users? What could possibly come out of this?

I'll say that I'm not gonna be saying anything of importance on there anymore, I'll use things like ICQ, or Yahoo, or MSN... whatever is safer/popular. XD

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Slight update XD...:
http://p2pnet.net/story/4216

Jojee
03-14-2005, 05:17 PM
I might have to move to MSN after all :(

Galadrius
03-14-2005, 05:38 PM
It's not like were talking about WMDs or matters of national security on AIM or anything, so who cares if people can read your convos... you should save the super personal stuff for phone calls anyhow.

Psychotic
03-14-2005, 05:39 PM
Good luck to them if they want to wade through the crap that most AOL users produce.

Strider
03-14-2005, 05:40 PM
I'm pretty sure there's some First Amendment issues there. "You lose your right to privacy"?

At least they don't beat around the bush.

Jojee
03-14-2005, 05:49 PM
It's not a right to privacy if they say you don't have it ;) It's public, now.

Oh shieee... they're gonna find out I'm actually a man :(

kikimm
03-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Eh, I hate AIM to begin with, but it's a silly idea.


:D

DMKA
03-14-2005, 07:17 PM
You mean AIM had some form of privacy?

I could care less, just like if they tapped my phone or anything else. So long as they aren't accessing info like my Social Security number, anyone can look through any of my conversations they want, so long as I don't know the person personally and have to face them the next day about something I didn't really want them to know I did with someone at a party last Saturday Night. :D

But yeah, like Psy said, good luck (and wtf) to going through all the "OMFG WHTSF LOLZ SARS OMFG GOTE SECKXS UR GAY LOL LOL LMAO" that me and PeeGee produce pages worth of in our aim conversations. :D

And all those AOL users too.

Endless
03-14-2005, 07:32 PM
The date on the ToS is Feb 5, <b>2004</b>. Everyone already knows about you trading pictures now. :p

Erdrick Holmes
03-14-2005, 07:38 PM
Why do they do this to me?

Carnage
03-14-2005, 07:41 PM
There never was any privacy on AIM. Every single conversation is scanned for keywords such as bomb, kill, stuff like that.

DMKA
03-14-2005, 07:44 PM
There never was any privacy on AIM. Every single conversation is scanned for keywords such as bomg, kill, stuff like that.
Seriously? Why haven't they came and hauled me and nik0tine off to the questioning compound yet?

Rye
03-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Eh, I hardly use AIM anyways.

Behold the Void
03-14-2005, 09:12 PM
I'll have to stop talking about plans for various works of writing and art then.

Shlup
03-14-2005, 09:45 PM
Damn. This puts a kink in my plans. I will have to notify Big Boss of this.

Ouch!
03-14-2005, 09:57 PM
Another reason why MSN Messenger > AIM

Halan
03-14-2005, 09:57 PM
Spiff and I conspired to kill the president and his secret service people today over AIM. Maybe this is why Spiff got shot in the face by some men in black suits.

m4tt
03-14-2005, 09:59 PM
I'm sure AOL really cares about what me and my girlfriend and me and Danny talk about.

Rye
03-14-2005, 10:00 PM
Maybe this is what the l33ters were preparing for? xD

-N-
03-14-2005, 10:00 PM
I read this on Drudge. Seems it'll be the worst for businesses who use AIM. I don't really carry out sensitive conversations over AIM anyways.

Halan
03-14-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm sure AOL really cares about what me and my girlfriend and me and Danny talk about.
Probably talk about the same sort of stuff with both of em, eh eh? EH? ;)

m4tt
03-14-2005, 10:13 PM
Probably talk about the same sort of stuff with both of em, eh eh? EH? ;)
Oh you know it. ;) ;) ;) ;)

rubah
03-14-2005, 10:29 PM
Ha. I knew there was a reason I've kept aim in disgrace for the last several months.

It's not like I talk to anyone on there anyways.

amratis
03-14-2005, 10:38 PM
Good luck to them if they want to wade through the crap that most AOL users produce.

But Psy I'm sure MSN .etc produces just as much crap per user :p

Mindflare
03-15-2005, 03:13 AM
Privacy is overrated. God forbid anyone know about my piddly life.

IRC is still good. *shrug*

Belethdolien
03-15-2005, 03:17 AM
I still swear to MSN....

Luc
03-15-2005, 03:22 AM
I thought they always did that. Oh well, it's not like the stuff I talk about on AIM is important anyway.

DMKA
03-15-2005, 04:39 AM
Oh you know it. ;) ;) ;) ;)
HAWT.

Mr. Graves
03-15-2005, 05:00 AM
I'm not on AIM enough to really worry about it. Although I think this is realy bogus. Gay-oh-ell sucks a boatload.

What I'm wondering is, if two Trillian users are using AIM via that, are they still suseptable to being pryed on?

Tidus Andronicus
03-15-2005, 03:10 PM
I'm guessing AOL doesn't like that people know about this. XD

http://p2pnet.net/story/4223

Endless
03-15-2005, 06:17 PM
No, the p2p site doesn't like that they made a mountain out of a molehill. Almost every big (corporate) site will have similar privacy clauses (MSN Groups for example, and Yahoo! Groups/Boards).

Jojee
03-19-2005, 06:52 PM
Apparently it's <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=142203&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=120&tid=158&tid=17&mode=thread&cid=11928284" target="_blank">false</a>.

Endless
03-20-2005, 09:52 AM
http://www.aim.com/tos/tos.adp is updated now to exclude private communications and clarify what rights you give to AOL concerning stuff posted in public areas. See also http://www.aim.com/tos/tos2.adp