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claw
03-17-2005, 02:22 AM
:moogle: sweet did u know that there are 2 ragnoroks in final fantasy 7 cloud has a weapon
called ragnorok :moomba: :moomba: And then in final fantasy 8 theres the ship called ragnorok. :choc: :choc2: :choc:

rubah
03-17-2005, 02:26 AM
and there's an esper in ff6, or a sword in ff6, and the ragnarok in ff8 has like two other dragonships just exactly like it.

<3ragna<3

(not to mention norse mythology)

udsuna
03-17-2005, 03:05 AM
Ragnarok was also present as a weapon in FF5, I believe. Square is VERY fond of borrowing mythologies to for names and characters and items.

DaremihC
03-17-2005, 10:59 PM
There are TONS of refferences to Norse mythology in many of Square's games.

Ragnarok, Odin, Freya, Gungnir, Asgard, Midgard, Yygdrassil, Niflheim... tons of them...

Camanche
03-18-2005, 12:10 AM
I remember almost all of those references in FF games, but not Yygdrassil. Is that not the world tree? Where do they make a reference to it, or its name even?

Sepho
03-18-2005, 12:37 AM
I've played through most of the numbered series, and I don't remember a reference to the life tree, either. Ygdrassil is a reference you'd sooner see being made in a Breath of Fire game.

rubah
03-18-2005, 04:26 AM
I thought it was cool in ffx-2 that they obviously got tired of using up norse myth and went on to persian.

makes for a lot more cool names.

Squall of SeeD
03-18-2005, 05:03 AM
I remember almost all of those references in FF games, but not Yygdrassil. Is that not the world tree? Where do they make a reference to it, or its name even?

Final Fantasy III (Hyne's Castle) and Final Fantasy: Tactics (mentioned as part of three of the Propositions, once with the spelling of "Yugdrasil" and the other time with the spelling of "Yugudoracil," and called "the World Tree" both of these times; the third time it was just called "the World Tree"). Depending on the translation you're looking at for III, it might be called "the Elder Tree."

AkiraMakie
03-18-2005, 07:17 AM
Final Fantasy III (Hyne's Castle) and Final Fantasy: Tactics (mentioned as part of three of the Propositions, once with the spelling of "Yugdrasil" and the other time with the spelling of "Yugudoracil," and called "the World Tree both of these times; the third time it was just called "the World Tree"). Depending on the translation you're looking at for III, it might be called "the Elder Tree."


Also in Xenogears Barts ship is named Yggdrasil.

prh99
03-20-2005, 07:02 AM
There are also references to mesopotamian mythology, specificly Babylonian in the form of Tiamat (one of themonsters in Ultimecia's Castle) and Gilgamesh (The GF that replaces Odin).

Skyblade
03-21-2005, 03:10 AM
The Ragnarok is also a weapon in FFTA, and is one of Tidus' weapons in FFX. The name is one of the ones that Square uses in almost every FF game they make, along with the Masamune, Murasame, Ultima, Biggs, Wedge, Ifrit, Shiva, Bahamut...

nik0tine
03-28-2005, 04:19 PM
I remember almost all of those references in FF games, but not Yygdrassil. Is that not the world tree? Where do they make a reference to it, or its name even? Yygdrassil is from Xenogears.

redxiiii
04-02-2005, 07:04 PM
There is also a Ragnorak acsessory in X-2, I think you get it from Rin!

Mittopotahis
04-03-2005, 06:43 AM
The Ragnarok is also a weapon in FFTA, and is one of Tidus' weapons in FFX. The name is one of the ones that Square uses in almost every FF game they make, along with the Masamune, Murasame, Ultima, Biggs, Wedge, Ifrit, Shiva, Bahamut...

Don't forget Cid! He's probably in more games then all of them put together!

eestlinc
04-03-2005, 04:47 PM
Yes, many ff games use the Ragnarok.

Masamuneˇ1600
04-05-2005, 07:19 AM
There are also references to mesopotamian mythology, specificly Babylonian in the form of Tiamat (one of themonsters in Ultimecia's Castle) and Gilgamesh (The GF that replaces Odin).

Enkidu and Humbaba, additional Babylonian mythological references, also appear in FF.

Delta
04-22-2005, 12:41 PM
Ragnorok is also a weapon in FF1.

Masamuneˇ1600
04-22-2005, 05:42 PM
Ragnarok did not originally appear in FFI; it was a transplant from FFVI for the DoS edition.

Ragnarok first appeared as a sword in FFIII. It reappeared as the most powerful weapon in FFIV; here, it is sometimes called the Crystal Sword. Ragnarok was again the ultimate weapon in FFV, and was an either a useful Esper or an extremely powerful weapon in FFVI, dependent upon the player's choice. In FFVII, Ragnarok was a powerful sword, Cloud's second strongest. In FFVIII, as mentioned, it was the airship equivalent. In FFIX, Ragnarok was Steiner's second best weapon, surpassed only by Excalibur II. In FFX, Ragnarok was a sword for Tidus; it had the modifications of Overdrive → AP, Triple AP, and Triple Overdrive. In FFX-2, Ragnarok was an accessory that reduced MP cost to zero (Spellspring effect). In FFT, Ragnarok was the second strongest Knightsword, and automatically imbued its wielder with Shell status. In FFTA, it was a rather mediocre Knightsword. In FFCC, Ragnarok was a powerful sword. It did not appear in FFMQ.

Captain Maxx Power
04-22-2005, 06:01 PM
For the record, Ragnarok is the Norse equivalent of Armageddon, thusforth:

In Norse mythology, Ragnarok ("fate of the gods") is the battle at the end of the world. It supposedly would be waged between the gods (the Aesir, led by Odin) and the evils (the fire giants, the Jotuns and various monsters, led by Loki). Not only will the gods, giants, and monsters perish in this apocalyptic conflagration, but almost everything in the universe will be torn asunder.

In the Viking warrior societies, dying in battles was a fate to admire, and this was carried over into the worship of a pantheon in which the gods themselves were not everlasting, but would one day be overthrown, at Ragnarok. Exactly what would happen, who would fight whom, and the fates of the participants in this battle were well known to the Norse peoples from their own sagas and skaldic poetry. The Völuspá (Prophecy of the Völva (shaman)), the first lay of the Poetic (or Elder) Edda, dating from about 1000 AD, spans the history of the gods, from the beginning of time to Ragnarok, in 65 stanzas. The Prose (or Younger) Edda, written two centuries later by Snorri Sturluson, describes in detail what would take place before, during, and even after the battle.

What is unique about Ragnarok as an armageddon tale is that the gods already know through prophecy what is going to happen: when the event will occur, who will be slain by whom, and so forth. They even realize that they are powerless to prevent Ragnarok. But they will still bravely and defiantly face their bleak destiny.

The word Ragnarok is derived from the Old Norse word Ragnarök, which consists of two parts: ragna is the genitive plural of regin ("gods" or "ruling powers"), while rök means "fate", etymologically related to English "reach".

-Wikipedia.org

Further reading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarok)