*gasp* Don't hurt my masculinity!

[Yuzuki130]

Okay, I was just browsing around and spotted a "Who's the hottest character?" thread in the FFVIII forum and I think it's hilarious that us girls have no problem talking about both guys and girls that we think are "hot," but guys are the opposite. If you ask a guy what they think of another guy, JUST ABOUT HIS CHARACTER, NOT HIS LOOKS, they'll say something like, "I don't know, I'm not gay!" Just something to think about...

:<3:

[krissy]

this is not true

maybe i am gay

[Agent Proto]

Girls are more comfortable identifying other girl's hotness. As for guys, most are uncomfortable with that. I mean, look at me. I don't really care, but I can say which guy is hot, or not. xD But I really don't do it very often. I just avoid the subject altogether.

[Ichimonji]

If a guy freaks out when you ask him a question like that, he's obviously not comfortable with his sexuality. If he was, he wouldn't have to stuggle to prove the face that he's straight.

[Yuzuki130]

That just proves how comfortable you are with yourself Agent Proto. Congratulations! As your reward, I bestow you with Mr. Nibbles! :nibbles:

BTW, do you think Tom Welling is hot? jk :D

[eestlinc]

I am on record saying Beck is hot. Someone else I know expressed this recently and I was pleased.

[DMKA]

Kimahri is freaking hawt. :<3::<3::<3::<3::<3::<3::<3:

[DaremihC]

Hey I'm straight and comfortable!

Hey!! ME! Over here!!!

...


I WANNA FREAKIN' MR. NIBBLES!!!!!

[strawberryman]

I tend to never be specific, and I don't care about much.
Insecure people freak out. I do not. :cool:

[Martyr]

It isn't about being comfortable with my manhood or my sexuality.

The fact is simply that it isn't a guy thing to do.

Girls like to make each other pretty. They like to play dress up, and they like to play house, and they wear acrylics and shop together and compliment each other on dresses etc.
They're also far more competitive for men, and have an inner desire to ridicule and ostracize ewach other. So they must understand fashion, and they must be able to criticize dress and hotness etc.

Men don't have this problem. Generally, we work in sweaty, filthy environments. We only look nice when girls are dressing us. We don't care what we all look like because the girls are too busy competing over us these days for us to be concerned. (We'll just take whichever girl hurls herself at us, and then the next and the next. Whatever.)
Frankly, we have nothing to do with how good looking we are.

Then, when you ask me if one guy is better looking than the other, I'm forced to look and say... Say what? Heck, I don't know!
I mean, if the dude doesn't have zits, is dressed up, has white teeth, and doesn't have bald spots, then I'm really at a loss to determine anything about how good looking he is.
I'll say that I don't know. On a forum, I won't respond. It isn't my business to know. Even if I really needed to figure it out, my guess would be totally wild, or else entirtely innacurate.
I mean, get off my case.
I don't know. I sure as heck don't care. And I think that I can speak for most men when I say that I really have better things to do with my time than look at guys to determine which one is better looking. (And that's even if I knew how to make such a daring assumption)

As far as girl hotness... Well, that's the other side. We'll all compliment and criticize girls. But we're still mostly primal and immature about it. Plaster yourself with make-up! Wear the hippest, most in-style stuff! Do your hair! Get on those tight jeans! Wear your pink high heels! I'll be busy judging your breast size against faceless chick # 3, 4, and 5 over there.

[DMKA]

It isn't about being comfortable with my manhood or my sexuality.

The fact is simply that it isn't a guy thing to do.

Girls like to make each other pretty. They like to play dress up, and they like to play house, and they wear acrylics and shop together and compliment each other on dresses etc.
They're also far more competitive for men, and have an inner desire to ridicule and ostracize ewach other. So they must understand fashion, and they must be able to criticize dress and hotness etc.

Men don't have this problem. Generally, we work in sweaty, filthy environments. We only look nice when girls are dressing us. We don't care what we all look like because the girls are too busy competing over us these days for us to be concerned. (We'll just take whichever girl hurls herself at us, and then the next and the next. Whatever.)
Frankly, we have nothing to do with how good looking we are.

Then, when you ask me if one guy is better looking than the other, I'm forced to look and say... Say what? Heck, I don't know!
I mean, if the dude doesn't have zits, is dressed up, has white teeth, and doesn't have bald spots, then I'm really at a loss to determine anything about how good looking he is.
I'll say that I don't know. On a forum, I won't respond. It isn't my business to know. Even if I really needed to figure it out, my guess would be totally wild, or else entirtely innacurate.
I mean, get off my case.
I don't know. I sure as heck don't care. And I think that I can speak for most men when I say that I really have better things to do with my time than look at guys to determine which one is better looking. (And that's even if I knew how to make such a daring assumption)

As far as girl hotness... Well, that's the other side. We'll all compliment and criticize girls. But we're still mostly primal and immature about it. Plaster yourself with make-up! Wear the hippest, most in-style stuff! Do your hair! Get on those tight jeans! Wear your pink high heels! I'll be busy judging your breast size against faceless chick # 3, 4, and 5 over there.
Speak for yourself. PLEASE speak for yourself. :)

[Dingo Jellybean]

Speak for yourself. PLEASE speak for yourself. :)

Why? He's right for the most part. Besides, you act as if no guys act like what he described. A lot of guys do that.



As for the subject at hand, I don't have any problems talking about good-looking guys, online at least. Usually guys are too insecure about their sexuality.

[Squall04]

Speak for yourself. PLEASE speak for yourself. :)
Oh he can speak for me better than I can myself.

I really don't see why people link being comfortable with your sexuality to doing homosexual stuff like talk about whether or not other men are hot. Is there any scientific reasoning behind that? Or are you people just deciding that because we refuse to take part in something that most people would deem gay, we are unsure of our own sexuality?

I don't judge other guys' looks, not because I'm straight ... ok partly because I'm straight ... but because as Martyr said, it's a waste of time.

[Yuzuki130]

Sorry If I said something to offend you, Martyr... :(

Anyway, DaremihC, Dingo Jellybean, and DMKA, I bestow upon you each a... MR. NIBBLES!
:nibbles:
:nibbles:
:nibbles:

[DMKA]

Why? He's right for the most part. Besides, you act as if no guys act like what he described. A lot of guys do that.
For the most part. I don't like being thrown into a generalize pile that doesn't fit me. If you don't mind that's fine.

But this is GC so I won't bother trying to be anymore serious.

[Del Murder]

I find eestlinc's character to be very attractive.

[strawberryman]

Anyway, DaremihC, Dingo Jellybean, and DMKA, I bestow upon you each a... MR. NIBBLES!
I can get my own Mr. Nibbles. :tongue:
:nibbles:

[Dingo Jellybean]

For the most part. I don't like being thrown into a generalize pile that doesn't fit me. If you don't mind that's fine.

But this is GC so I won't bother trying to be anymore serious.

Who said he generalized you? If I say guys drive trucks and are rednecks, are you going to throw a temper at me? Of course not. It doesn't apply to you so you just ignore it. Your whole reaction was as if he somehow defaced every man alive. He didn't...it was his opinion and I'm sure he's well aware that not all guys are like this. So thanks for assuming.

[Del Murder]

Guys, calm down. Can't you see that you love each other?

[Dingo Jellybean]

Guys, calm down. Can't you see that you love each other?

I've always loved DMKA. I'm just helping a brotha out.

[Squall04]

Guys, calm down. Can't you see that you love each other?
It's all because they're really insecure about their sexuality [/sarcasm].

[Cless]

OMG, like Squall is like sooo hot! :love: :D :love: *orgasms*

Or maybe, I'm just saying that to hide the fact that I'm uncomfortable with my sexuality. :cry: (Or to trick Yuzuki130 into awarding me a mister nibbles :p )

But seriously, do I feel I can tell if a guy's attractive? Yes I do, just like I feel I can tell that a women's attractive. And I would be comfortable talking about it. The key difference is, though. Do I actually find myself being attracted to guys that I think are attractive. Nope. Well, 99% of the time anyway! ;)

[Quina]

I am quite comfortable with your sexuality.

[*ETERNAL FANTASY*]

Im a firm believer in the whole personality over looks....the look thing is a bonus imo...the girls that i have gone out with over the years arent exactly lookers but i have a good night out with em' its not exactly awkward...as for someone asking me if a guy was hot i usually just say "go up and go for it"....usually they're just too shy to talk....its kinda funny cause even if you approve of someones "hotness" guy or girl another issue rises up and thats going up and talking to them lol...

sometimes i dont have a problem going up and talking to a girl but usually i have a mindset on them being out of my league....kinda sad really (for me that is) lol!

[boris no no]

I am quite comfortable with your sexuality.
:p :p :p :p :p :p :p
heeheehee
we were trying to get my friends husband to tell us which guys were hot in the room. he got all shy bless him!

[Dr.K]

A male I know has his belly button pierced, but he maintains he is heterosexual. Now THAT'S being comfortable.

[DMKA]

Who said he generalized you? If I say guys drive trucks and are rednecks, are you going to throw a temper at me? Of course not.
Actually yes, I would.

It doesn't apply to you so you just ignore it. Your whole reaction was as if he somehow defaced every man alive.
He said guys, therefore it does apply to me.

He didn't...it was his opinion and I'm sure he's well aware that not all guys are like this. So thanks for assuming.
You haven't read many of his post, have you?

[Ichimonji]

Sorry If I said something to offend you, Martyr... :(

It wasn't what you said, it was how you said it.

[Spuuky]

I am on record saying Beck is hot. Someone else I know expressed this recently and I was pleased.
Was it Nicky? I sincerely hope not.

Brad Pitt is hot. So is Johnny Depp. So is RSL.

[Jojee]

I don't see what's so offensive about what Yuzuki said, so if someone could fill me in...

Anyway, I think it's because society accepts female homosexuality more than male homosexuality. :} You go up to most guys and they'll say "Yeah, lesbians are hot." You go up to a lot of girls, and they'll say that they are willing to kiss another girl just to experiment, regardless of whether they are straight. The same doesn't apply to guys ^^

Also, what Matyr said may apply to a lot of guys, but those aren't the kind I go for ;) And there are a hell of a lot of guys who aren't like that.

[Chemical]

perhaps on a general (mass) level what was said is true.

However, a mass is more like an entity. It's theoretical but it doesn't exist. People are too different from one another...

so you'll have guys who talk about how hot other guys are with no problem... and you'll have girls who don't even bother replying to a "who's hot thread" because it seems like an utterly rediculous waste of time.

[Lindy]

I would bang all of OK Go if I had the chance.

[Ouch!]

It's not hard to admit a guy is good looking. "Hey, he's a pretty good lookin' guy." Saying that doesn't make me any less masculine.

However, I still avoid the subject. I don't want to compare how guys look because honestly I couldn't care less. It's not important to me. Sure, I'll compare some females but that's because I'm actually, y'know, attracted to females.

I'm comfortable with my sexuality, which is why I joke about it. That doesn't mean that I'm going to go around comparing males.

Except for my friend Hans. Hans has so much raw manliness that his raw sex appeal transcends gender preference. I mean, seriously, his name alone has to be the hottest thing ever. Hans! You can shout it Die Hard style to greet him (which I always do) and it just makes you go weak in the knees.

[Flamethrower]

I am not afraid at all to act feminine or to admit which guys are good looking (Proof (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showpost.php?p=991350&postcount=7)). I do it all the time around my friends, it's fun. I think it's funny how some guys would rather die than to act feminine.



BTW, do you think Tom Welling is hot? jk :D

Yes, only because a lot of girls have told me I look like him. :p Just a much less muscular version of him. :(

[DaremihC]

My girlfriend wants Tom Welling...

That is so depressing.

[Flamethrower]

I heard he's a prick in real life, too. Not that it matters to any girls who drool over him. :P

[Psychotic]

I can't rate how attractive males are because I don't find ANY males to be attractive. It's as simple as that.

[Harvest Moon]

If a guy freaks out when you ask him a question like that, he's obviously not comfortable with his sexuality. If he was, he wouldn't have to stuggle to prove the face that he's straight.
<b><<b></b>I disagree with you.><b></b></b>

<b>Edit by Kishi: Another post like this will get you banned. This is your warning.</b>

<oh yes, cause Lord knows society's demands play absolutely no role in it. -_- It's ignorance like your's that get gay people hasseld, straight people confused, and Michal Jackson off the hook.. God I can't wait for Koriea to blow our asses to smitherings. Just to know craptacular peoples like you are heaping glowing bodies without a mouth to longer spew crap out of. And because i am so pissed off right now i don't frankly give a damn WHAT people think so i will say it, i do think Vincett is cute. Every other character though is just crap.. but then again that might have something to do with the fact that they whine so fricking much..>

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I've found that I just don't know what an attractive guy looks like. I can use the generalizations and then go from there (Brad Pitt or one of the Backstreet boys or whatever), but they're varied so I don't know. I seem to have noticed that a lot of girls seem to like effeminate guys, maybe that's the standard we should look at. If a guy looks like a girl, he's by definition attractive :D

[Miriel]

I always ask my guy friends what they think about guys in magazines and on TV and they always say something like, "he's alright I guess" and other vague noncommittal answers.

While I accept that guys won't talk openly about the attractiveness of other guys, do they at least think it? I find it hard to believe that they can look at a someone like Brad Pitt and think absolutely nothing about his physical beauty. I mean, good looking people are good looking people right? So how can a guy look at another guy and not even do a little bit of evaluating?

Meh, it's just outside my realm of understanding I suppose.

[DaremihC]

I don't look at guys and think "Man they look good." I usually just note their presence and maybe notice their build and height, not much more.

But then, I kinda do that with girls too.

Meh, I'm just wierd.

[Squall04]

While I accept that guys won't talk openly about the attractiveness of other guys, do they at least think it? I find it hard to believe that they can look at a someone like Brad Pitt and think absolutely nothing about his physical beauty. I mean, good looking people are good looking people right? So how can a guy look at another guy and not even do a little bit of evaluating?

Meh, it's just outside my realm of understanding I suppose.
That is because you are looking at it from a girl's point of view of having to criticize and evaluate everyone and everything. I do not look at some one and immediately think whether or not he is hot. If a girl asks me to, I try to see a guy from a girl's perspective, but I don't usually do so otherwise.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

While I accept that guys won't talk openly about the attractiveness of other guys, do they at least think it? I find it hard to believe that they can look at a someone like Brad Pitt and think absolutely nothing about his physical beauty. I mean, good looking people are good looking people right? So how can a guy look at another guy and not even do a little bit of evaluating?

Not at all. Personally I can't even tell beyond the "I think he's famous for some reason or another".

Of course I'm utterly oblivious to Hollywood so that might be part of it.

[Jojee]

@_@;; Wow, I wanna be a guy.

*swacks self* No, no I don't. I appreciate manly aesthetic beauty. ^_^

That's hard to believe, though.

[Shlup]

I don't really have many guy friends who wont admit another guy is attractive. They wont say "He has a tight ass" like I'll say "She has great tits" but, eh, doesn't really bother me.

[Miriel]

That is because you are looking at it from a girl's point of view of having to criticize and evaluate everyone and everything. I do not look at some one and immediately think whether or not he is hot. If a girl asks me to, I try to see a guy from a girl's perspective, but I don't usually do so otherwise.

I don't criticize. :)

When I see a girl with beautiful eyes, I think "hey that girl has beautiful eyes." And I think that's perfectly normal.

I can look at an elderly woman in the park and think, "my god, she's gorgeous" because I don't equate appreciating someone's beauty with wanting to "hook up."

I think human beings in general are beautiful. Scars, lumps, bumps and all. So I appreciate the beauty in both men and women, old and young.

I'm betting that once you guys have sons, you'll notice how strong his jawline is and how lovely his eyes are. My Dad randomly tells my brother that he's beautiful. So yeah, I do think it's a bit odd that some guys can't appreciate the beauty in other guys.

[Mr. Graves]

I thik several softcore porn actors are not. I'm withholding their names as you wouldn't know them.

I want one's bod. (Not like that. As in, I want to look like him.)

[SeeDRankLou]

Oh I really don't see why people link being comfortable with your sexuality to doing homosexual stuff like talk about whether or not other men are hot.
Attractive, not hot. And it's not so much if a straight guy does this activity, it's if he would do this activity. It's more willingness, like if a guy is not even remotely willing to say that another guy is attractive or not. I mean, no one is asking if you want to have wildy monkey sex with Brad Pitt, they are merely asking what you think of his looks. I mean, Brad Pitt has good hair, a great smile, a nice jawline, nice eyes, and a swimmer's body, he's an attractive guy. For a male to note that about another male does not imply anything. And if you can't even make a comment on the subject, well.....

I comment on guys' looks all the time. Oh wait..... :D :love:
In fairness to the theory of the subject, I do comment on how girls look as well. Not as often though because it's not what I usually look at, but I would if the comment were appropriate.

[ughhis]

I completely agree with Miriel.

If I understood her correctly, that is. My english is a bit of an "instinct" thing. It feels like I understand, but sometimes, I get everything all upside-down and just oh-so-wrong. :confused:

[DMKA]

I don't really have many guy friends who wont admit another guy is attractive. They wont say "He has a tight ass" like I'll say "She has great tits" but, eh, doesn't really bother me.
But wouldn't you laugh if they did? xD