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claw
03-21-2005, 01:21 AM
32,000 BP is jus to much isn't there an easier way?

udsuna
03-21-2005, 02:57 AM
Sorry, it's that or cheating.

Rinen
03-21-2005, 03:05 AM
Or if you are on disc 1, you can get it for 64k.

Masamune·1600
03-21-2005, 05:52 AM
Actually, Omnislash needs "only" 51200 BP on Disc One.

redxiiii
03-21-2005, 09:22 AM
Or if you are on disc 1, you can get it for 64k.

Isn`t that for w-summon :confused:

Shoden
03-21-2005, 04:57 PM
i thought it would be alot lower to get on disk 3 such as 15k not 32k im gonna cheat for once cheat my BP

on my cpu move i slowe ddown the speed to 1/4 and i counted over 30 how is that? i counted 3 times and only counted how many times damage appeared so that means it does more than Renzokuken and Lionheart together
intruiging

Rinen
03-21-2005, 11:10 PM
I knew it was around there. I haven't played VII in a while, so I've started to lose track of the numbers. If I remember, Omnislash hits around 14 or 15 times, somewhere around there. Lionheart hits for 19-21 times, again, around there, and Renzokuken hits from anywhere form 4-7 times, and again, something around there.

Shoden
03-22-2005, 06:28 PM
well omnislash is 4 times faster than lionheart so its hard to count it varies from 15-19 slashes in fast motion

actually Lionheart varies from 15-23 slashes

depends on dexeterity stat

Rinen
03-23-2005, 04:03 AM
Then what I counted on mine, my dex is good then. Should you count Renzokuken with Lionheart, Lionheart would obviously do great, but if your dex is low, then Omnislash would be better. But, lets see if it was in real life, you'd be dealing with Cloud's giant swords compared to Squall's gunblades, still hard to compare.

Sephex
03-23-2005, 06:11 PM
The battle place isn't that hard. Go find a guide on www.gamefaqs.com so you can rule!

UltimaLimit
03-24-2005, 09:48 AM
32,000 BP is jus to much isn't there an easier way?150,000 damage is just too much, isn't there an easier way? Trust me, Omnislash is well worth it.

Polaris
03-24-2005, 10:05 AM
what's that 64k?

Sword
03-25-2005, 08:02 PM
Actually Omnislash is easy to get. You can get over 11,000 BP for winning 1 group of fights in the battle square.

Masamune·1600
03-25-2005, 11:29 PM
64000 BP is the amount needed to receive a W-Summon materia. You can only trade in for the W-Summon on Discs 2 and 3.

Shoden
03-26-2005, 03:21 PM
is there any way to get ez BP and fast?

i recorded Omnislash off the final battle and played it in slow motion coz you can barely see how many times it hits whilst with Renxokuken and Lionheart which i also recently recorded its maximum total was 25 in slow motion

Squall of SeeD
03-26-2005, 03:45 PM
is there any way to get ez BP and fast?

i recorded Omnislash off the final battle and played it in slow motion coz you can barely see how many times it hits whilst with Renxokuken and Lionheart which i also recently recorded its maximum total was 25 in slow motion

Omnislash hits 14 times.

Shoden
03-26-2005, 05:06 PM
Omnislash varies in hits like Lionheart there no definate number it usually goes from 15-25 depending on how many enemies your facing dexeterity strength and lukc (not the stat luck) its strange coz its over in 10 seconds

Sepho
03-26-2005, 05:44 PM
You can acquire a greater amount of BP during each trip through the series of fights in the Battle Square by intentionally giving yourself a handicap. That may or may not help, depending on whether you can handle the handicap.

If you're good at "slowing down" the reels by repeatedly tapping the square button, then 'breaking' all of your materia individually can easily net you over 11,000 BP in a single series of battles.

Shoden
03-26-2005, 08:33 PM
inetersting but what about the do 7 battles leave the arena then go back in dont leave the room though

Sepho
03-26-2005, 09:04 PM
Race chocobos a lot. The thing to do is ensure you have enough GP to continually fight in the Battle Square and raise your BP without having to leave (as a result of using up all your GP).

I'd think that if you complete the chocobo breeding sidequest, all the while racing each chocobo to S class, you should have plenty of BP to be able to fulfil your quest for Omnislash and W-Summon. There's also the guy who randomly shows up outside of the Gold Saucer entrance, but that could be a frustrating method to use.

Shoden
03-26-2005, 09:10 PM
if only you could take BP with you like GP

ShunNakamura
03-26-2005, 10:30 PM
actually I think I got both with only around 200-300gp... I mean it isn't hard, wiht Yuffie and her conformer I would net anywhere from 10000-17000 in a round... easily. On occasion I would hit as low as 8000.

All you need is her conformer, the Enemy skill Big Guard, a Ribbon, time materia linked wiht added effect on the weapon. Also it can help if you have morph or something similar linked to HP absorb.

Unfortunately I never get to use the materia for long... I usually end up breaking all my materia before the last round, getting my ribbon broken, not to mention defense and attack.... so I guess I am REALLY unlucky... or lucky depending on point of view.

the 200 gb was a close one though... I got knocked out multiple times thanks to that ghost ship and his stupid pick you up and throw you out of the ring attack. :mad2:

BackRoomKid
03-26-2005, 10:36 PM
Please someone explain "BP" for me...i kinda get the concept but i'd appreciate sum details...lol...i'm no newbie with VII, just the terminology i never use

Sepho
03-26-2005, 10:52 PM
BP is a currency that's exclusive to the Battle Arena of the Gold Saucer - it stands for "Battle Points". When fighting in the Battle Arena, you're awarded a certain amount of BP after each series of 8 fights, and the amount you get depends on the handicap. After each round of fighting, a slot wheel appears, and each face of the slot faces holds a different handicap, ranging from disallowing certain types of materia to cutting your HP in half. The tougher the handicap, the more BP you get, assuming you overcome the handicap.

With the BP you gain from fighting, you can exchange it for items inside the Battle Arena, many of which are exclusive to the Battle Arena. Each series of fights costs GP (the overall currency of the Gold Saucer, not to be mistaken with Gil, the universal currency of the world), and all BP you gain during your time in the Battle Arena is reduced to zero once you leave. This is why it's recommended that you come in with a lot of GP, so you can in turn fight many battles and gain a lot of BP (and have the ability to exchange it for some of the more valuable items without running out).

The two most BP-expensive Battle Arena items are: the Omnislash manual, which teaches Cloud his strongest (level 4) limit break, Omnislash - it costs 32,000 BP, generally; and even more expensive is the W-Summon materia, one of the strongest command materia in the game, which allows you to summon a combination of any two (instead of the usual one) Summon materia in one command - it costs 64,000 BP, generally.

Squall of SeeD
03-27-2005, 06:24 AM
Omnislash varies in hits like Lionheart there no definate number it usually goes from 15-25 depending on how many enemies your facing dexeterity strength and lukc (not the stat luck) its strange coz its over in 10 seconds

Omnislash and Lionheart both have a set number of hits. Omnislash always hits 14 times. Lionheart always hits 17 times. It's Renzokuken that leads up to Lionheart that varies in the number of hits.

(Note: I slowed the videos of the attacks down in Windows Movie Maker and viewed them frame-by-frame to be certain.)

Shoden
03-27-2005, 11:22 AM
so did i in Nero player 5 ok each time you use lionheart it either hits from 17-20 times Renzokuken varies from 3-7 times Omnislash i havent got precise numbers as i cant be bothered to get 32,000 BP :D but if you say so then thats it i hate arguing with someone who has huge evidence but its just the people who wont let me back out the arguement i dont like

Squall of SeeD
03-27-2005, 05:54 PM
so did i in Nero player 5 ok each time you use lionheart it either hits from 17-20 times Renzokuken varies from 3-7 times Omnislash i havent got precise numbers as i cant be bothered to get 32,000 BP :D but if you say so then thats it i hate arguing with someone who has huge evidence but its just the people who wont let me back out the arguement i dont like

Feel free to back out.

RIP Dime
03-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Erm....Heres another Question, how many hits does Omnislash do, around 25 right?

Sepho
03-29-2005, 10:29 PM
Often times, you'll find that reading the thread may already answer your question.

RIP Dime
03-29-2005, 10:34 PM
Ahh, thank you, I am a very lazy Reader!

Sepho
03-29-2005, 10:56 PM
It happens to the best of us :p.

Shoden
03-29-2005, 11:07 PM
depending on how you count varies from 14-25

slow motion on a media player makes it seem endless in slashes and fast motion jesus you see hardly anything