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sephiroth JR
03-26-2005, 10:03 PM
hi guys ive completed ff7 ??? amount of times but could never defeat the weapons ruby or emerald. ive looked at stratergys on other sites but there all to hard 2 achieve can anyone tell me a reletivly simple way 2 defeat them ive got most materia including kotr-summon, morph, w-magic,summon +item,all the ones out of northern cave.


PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tongue: :rolleyes2 ;) :) :p :cool: :D :love: :tongue: :greenie: :D

Luthien Rogue
03-26-2005, 10:18 PM
http://www.ffonline.com/media/guides/ff7/ffvii_faq_weapons_2.txt

Don't know what else to tell you... :P

sephiroth JR
03-26-2005, 10:25 PM
Thanx Alot This Is The Easiest 2 Follow Thing Eva Even I Can Do This
Thanx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luthien Rogue
03-26-2005, 10:32 PM
Thanx Alot This Is The Easiest 2 Follow Thing Eva Even I Can Do This
Thanx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

XD No problem.

Ultima Shadow
03-27-2005, 12:05 AM
The funniest way to beat them is without materia! :greenie:

Dreddz
03-27-2005, 09:40 AM
that guide is good enough advice. Doing it without Materia sounds impossible. Have you done it

Syncope
03-31-2005, 06:56 AM
Do what my friend did, just train up to level 99 on all characters. Or use my method which is max up on sources by morphing the enemies in the Gelnika and get your stats really high.

Ultima Shadow
03-31-2005, 11:33 AM
Doing it without Materia sounds impossible. Have you done it
Yes, I have. Emerald is pice of cake without materia but Ruby is hell itself without materia.

Masamune·1600
03-31-2005, 05:52 PM
Listen to Ultima Shadow. He's the best when it comes to doing creative, demeaning things to superbosses.

There a number of creative ways to beat Emerald and Ruby; no materia is one of the best. If you're going after Ruby without materia, I strongly recommend you have quite a few Dazers items in your inventory.

Including materia, of course, allows for you to do horrible things to Em and Ruby. My goal on my next FFVII playthrough will force me to leave them until I've done a lot of materia leveling, since I hope to destroy them never choosing an action (in other words, solely through countering).

Ultima Shadow
03-31-2005, 08:08 PM
Listen to Ultima Shadow. He's the best when it comes to doing creative, demeaning things to superbosses.

Thanks for those kind words! :D


There a number of creative ways to beat Emerald and Ruby; no materia is one of the best. If you're going after Ruby without materia, I strongly recommend you have quite a few Dazers items in your inventory.

And 99 X-potions. You won't survive without those. Hero Drinks are also pretty nice. :cool:

To anyone who would want to attempt this challange... be warned: This battle takes forever... :greenie:

Raistlin
03-31-2005, 08:59 PM
Emmy is cake without materia - it just takes time. Beating Ruby without materia means you must not have valued the entire summer you wasted while attempting it.

However, both of them are easier than cake with materia. Ruby just takes a strategy - Hades, w-summon, KotR, Mime are all that's needed. For Emmy, you just need to keep pounding away and healing, with out without materia.

BackRoomKid
03-31-2005, 09:37 PM
The funniest way to beat them is without materia! :greenie:

lol...that is funny but i could see Emerald being no problem...ruby would kill me and then kick me a few times when i get a game over

Ultima Shadow
03-31-2005, 09:42 PM
Beating Ruby without materia means you must not have valued the entire summer you wasted while attempting it.

The joy you feel when you finally make it is absolutely worth it! :D

Actually... it only took me about 40 attempts or something like that. Ofcourse... even the failed attempt could take about 1-2 hours... which means you'll get pretty frustrated when the game over screen suddenly appears. :)

Perducci
04-01-2005, 09:30 PM
I tried to beat Ruby without Materia... I got so close and then... It killed me. And I almost cried. But I guess it wasn't that bad...

Ultima Shadow
04-02-2005, 09:06 PM
I tried to beat Ruby without Materia... I got so close and then... It killed me. And I almost cried. But I guess it wasn't that bad...
Did you count your hits? Don't forget that Ruby have about 1,000,000 HP. Because of her extreme defense, you'll have to hit her a hella load of times. :cool: Don't cry. You should laugh instead, like I did when I got game over after 1-2 hours of fighting! :D Seriously... one time i just couldn't stop laughing. :greenie:

Shoden
04-02-2005, 09:42 PM
i first tried ruby when i saw this cute little red thing near the golden saucer i went to touc and it roared the ground shook and out he popped i was massacred by his malevolence

that Damn Red Bastard garrrrr

Ultima Shadow
04-02-2005, 10:17 PM
that Damn Red Bastard garrrrr
Don't you mean: "That lovely hot chick"? :D

Shoden
04-04-2005, 09:50 PM
Ruby was a no gender at first but decided to get a sex change to man then found out men to women get more famous so therefore ruby is not a he or she

it's a heshe

lmao

Tigmafuzz
05-29-2005, 04:22 AM
hehe...
she/him=shim.
ruby's a shim!
kill!kill!KILL!!!

redxiiii
05-29-2005, 12:46 PM
I tried to beat Ruby without Materia... I got so close and then... It killed me. And I almost cried. But I guess it wasn't that bad...
Did you count your hits? Don't forget that Ruby have about 1,000,000 HP. Because of her extreme defense, you'll have to hit her a hella load of times. :cool: Don't cry. You should laugh instead, like I did when I got game over after 1-2 hours of fighting! :D Seriously... one time i just couldn't stop laughing. :greenie:

Anyone know if their is a way to nullify ruby`s defence and do more damage because the most damage i can do (and this is with hero drinks) is around 800 and thats wit cloud aswell. (thats 800 per hit by the way)

JulioA
05-29-2005, 06:18 PM
Get the Final Attack-Revive combination and thats it youll never die.

Lord Magician
06-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Sooner or later it will run out and you will die.

AND WHO SAID THEY COULD BEAT EMERALD WEAPON WITHOUT MATERIA!!!!!?????

Raistlin
06-05-2005, 11:46 PM
Me. It just takes a while.

Now Ruby, on the other hand, takes 57904750423 times and long as is HARD without materia.

Erdrick Holmes
06-05-2005, 11:56 PM
Put Cait Sith in your party. Get his Slot limit break all ready to use, then save your game right before you fight him. Fight him and fire off that Limit Break, try and time it so it gets all 3 slots showing Sith's face. When they do they die immediatly. If you fail just try again. I defeated Emeral Weapon like that in three tries.

Raistlin
06-05-2005, 11:58 PM
Note that Joel's way saves the bother of actually playing the game.

Carl the Llama
06-06-2005, 12:56 AM
The funniest way to beat them is without materia! :greenie:
you beat them without materia and it took more then 20 minutes.... ya damn lia, there is a time limit of 20 mins (which is easyly doable with materia) unless you have the underwater materia which means you didnt kill him without materia :p oh and btw the easyest way to kill emmy is to have KotR+HP Absorb Mime+MP Absorb Final Attack+Revive = invincible Cloud have the others equiped with Mime and Final Attack+Revive that way it is imposible to loose

Raistlin
06-06-2005, 01:12 AM
I've been saying the same thing for years now(since I first did it), and no one ever thought of that, KD. Yes, I did have the Underwater materia equipped.

Erdrick Holmes
06-06-2005, 01:26 AM
I actually have a system for it. Needs only one character equiped with KOTR, some really good defensive magic, alot of elixers, a Mime Materia, and karma. Simply have that one character cast KOTR, then use an elixer on him, repeat a total of ten times and Ruby should die.

ff-fanatix
06-08-2005, 03:35 PM
heres a good strategy to fight ruby...have magic counter equipped with full-cure..and have a very extensive collection of elixirs....and obviously pheonix with final attack....this pretty much makes you invincible.....just make sure to take out the tentacles before they suck your mp away.....omnislash does the trick here.....then just plough ruby away with your KOTR.....peice o cake....

oo make sure 2 of your people are dead when you go into battle....or hell more than likely suck away the good one....

Crop
06-08-2005, 03:56 PM
I defeated them both but id say the easiest way to beat ruby weapon is to use knights of the round with w-summon 4 times.

ff-fanatix
06-08-2005, 04:07 PM
what you mean theres another way of doing it?????

thop i did take out emerald withotu KOTR just for fun....took a while but i got the bastard done.....

lots of highwinds, Omnislash, and /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif i forgot it now...yuffies multia hit limit level 3....

twas huge fun tho...

Ultima Shadow
06-08-2005, 05:12 PM
AND WHO SAID THEY COULD BEAT EMERALD WEAPON WITHOUT MATERIA!!!!!?????
I have and Raistlin have. Like he said, Emerald is no big deal without materia, really. But Ruby is a hell.


you beat them without materia and it took more then 20 minutes.... ya damn lia, there is a time limit of 20 mins (which is easyly doable with materia) unless you have the underwater materia which means you didnt kill him without materia :p
Yes, RUBY WEAPON took more than 20 min, of course. But there's no time limmit in the battle against Ruby! I actually managed to beat Emerald before the time ran out, thanks to the "Fury" status which allows you to get Limmit Breaks much more often. You can still have powerful equipment and use Megaelexirs, so it's really not that hard to survive. I also had the battle speed at max, or pretty close to max. It's completely possible to beat Emerald without materia in 20 mins. Ruby Weapon, on the other hand takes about 1-2 hours... if you're lucky. :p

Lord Magician
06-08-2005, 07:30 PM
you beat them without materia and it took more then 20 minutes.... ya damn lia, there is a time limit of 20 mins (which is easyly doable with materia) unless you have the underwater materia which means you didnt kill him without materia :p oh and btw the easyest way to kill emmy is to have KotR+HP Absorb Mime+MP Absorb Final Attack+Revive = invincible Cloud have the others equiped with Mime and Final Attack+Revive that way it is imposible to loose

Crap!! I never knew about that!!!! Now I feel slow and stupid!!!! :mad:

Carl the Llama
06-08-2005, 08:02 PM
you beat them without materia and it took more then 20 minutes.... ya damn lia, there is a time limit of 20 mins (which is easyly doable with materia) unless you have the underwater materia which means you didnt kill him without materia :p oh and btw the easyest way to kill emmy is to have KotR+HP Absorb Mime+MP Absorb Final Attack+Revive = invincible Cloud have the others equiped with Mime and Final Attack+Revive that way it is imposible to loose

Crap!! I never knew about that!!!! Now I feel slow and stupid!!!! :mad:
hey!!! Ultima Shadow didnt write that stratagy i did!! oh and btw dont feel sad about not knowing... i am a Final Fantasy Master

Lord Magician
06-08-2005, 08:12 PM
I thought I had all the power I needed but, I did not know how to use it well. :mad:

Ultima Shadow
06-08-2005, 11:39 PM
hey!!! Ultima Shadow didnt write that stratagy i did!! oh and btw dont feel sad about not knowing... i am a Final Fantasy Master
That's right! I would never come up with such a easy and cheap strategy! :p

Final Fantasy master? Proof, please! :p

ff-fanatix
06-09-2005, 12:21 AM
it annoys me when people say they are a final fantasy master...no one person knows every final fantays inside out....cept maybe squall of Seed....that guy has my infinite respect as far as his knowledge of final fantasy goes....

everyone has their own methods and i think you'll agree that everyone here has or will develop more interestign ways of beating emerald and ruby....but the most generic and safest way to beat the bastards...is with KOTR and Phoenix, Final Attack combo......

beating Ruby and Emerald is one heck of an achievement whatever way you do it.....anyone who has done it will tell you that...so anyone who can do it without materia....without KOTR....or without The phoenix solution.....then hey consider yourself good, great maybe ...but master...NO.....

No-one will ever know final fanatsy so well they are unmistakably The Master.....

but you can all try.....dont let me stop you :p

Lord Magician
06-09-2005, 02:27 AM
hey!!! Ultima Shadow didnt write that stratagy i did!! oh and btw dont feel sad about not knowing... i am a Final Fantasy Master

My bad I misplaced your name with the other since both names were in the quote. I fixed it.

P.S. What proof you have of bieng a final fantasy master. Go through my Trials of truth and you will be an official final fantasy master. :mad:

Carl the Llama
06-09-2005, 03:23 AM
it annoys me when people say they are a final fantasy master...no one person knows every final fantays inside out....cept maybe squall of Seed....that guy has my infinite respect as far as his knowledge of final fantasy goes....

everyone has their own methods and i think you'll agree that everyone here has or will develop more interestign ways of beating emerald and ruby....but the most generic and safest way to beat the bastards...is with KOTR and Phoenix, Final Attack combo......

beating Ruby and Emerald is one heck of an achievement whatever way you do it.....anyone who has done it will tell you that...so anyone who can do it without materia....without KOTR....or without The phoenix solution.....then hey consider yourself good, great maybe ...but master...NO.....

No-one will ever know final fanatsy so well they are unmistakably The Master.....

but you can all try.....dont let me stop you
jees chill i was only jokeing XD...... but i am the master XD


P.S. What proof you have of bieng a final fantasy master. Go through my Trials of truth and you will be an official final fantasy master. trials of truth... where?

Lord Magician
06-09-2005, 06:43 PM
trials of truth... where?

Right here. I will ask you 10 questions to prove you are a final fantasy master. And to go easy on you, they will be all from Final Fantasy 7. The bigger the number, the harder the question. The bonus is if you get one wrong.

(1) To get a gold chocobo you must mate a black chocobo with what?

(2) If you beat ultimate weapon, ruby weapon will not appear. What else do you need to do?

(3) If you fail to save Barret's home town form the runaway train, How much do you need to pay for the ultima materia then?

(4) What is all of Aeris limit breaks?

(5) What character you get in your party but cannot control? What level was he/she?

(6) What's another name for calling the ancients?

(7) How much HP does Ultimate weapon have in total?

(8) If you sell the "ALL" materia at MASTER AP, how much money do they give you?

(9) What is the fourth main boss you fight you fight in the start of the game?

(10) What is least HP safer sephiroth starts with and what is the highest possible for it to start with?

(BONUS) How old is Sephiroth?

GOOD LUCK!!!! :D

Ultima Shadow
06-10-2005, 09:44 AM
And anyone who can answere those easy questions will be considered a Final Fantasy Master by you? :p

*insane laugh*

Lord Magician
06-11-2005, 12:03 AM
Are they too hard for you? Want me to make them easy for you? :lol: :joker:

Ultima Shadow
06-11-2005, 12:36 AM
Actually... I can answere them all (except the last bonus question). But if you want me to do that, I'll do it by PM. Let's not go off-topic anymore. The topic is about Emerald and Ruby Weapon. :greenie:

Lord Magician
06-11-2005, 12:41 AM
Ok. Back on topic. There is Emerald weapon and ruby weapon. But where is sapphire weapon?(Emerald and ruby are starting to sound like the pokemon games, don't you think?)

The first weapon you see the juno killed, I think that was sapphire, or at least it looked like it. :mad:

ff-fanatix
06-11-2005, 01:35 AM
ya that was sapphire...diamond was killed by you and the midgar cannon.....

and ultimate...we all know about him...

Fire_Drake
06-23-2005, 01:57 PM
I have a question (I'm new so thats why you wouldn't have heard from me before) - If you have Ruby, Sapphire, Diamond, Emerald and Ultimate Weapon, then why isn't Ultimate Harder to beat than Ruby and Emerald?

Cruise Control
06-23-2005, 02:45 PM
cuz it's ultimate weapon, just like omega, it's supposed to suck and be incredibly easy to beat!

Peter_20
06-23-2005, 02:55 PM
I think I used this strategy against Ruby Weapon:

Apocalypse
Mystile Armor
Ribbon

Knights of Round--HP Absorb, W-Summon
Knights of Round--MP Absorb, Master Summon--MP Turbo, Command Counter--Mimic

BusterSword777
06-24-2005, 03:06 AM
I've killed Ruby Weapon only once before (And that night I think I was having loads of luck, as I killed Emerald Wepon just an hout before without KOTR, W-Summon, or anything, mainly with Omnislash, Highwind, and many 4x-Cuts) and I've forgotten how ever since. That was about three years ago. Now, I've just given up. I got so very, very, very close... and then the power cut off. I nearly broke my PSone because of it... >.<