Chrono Riddles

[Masamune·1600]

Since seemingly every other forum has a riddles thread, I thought we could do one for Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. Usual rules apply: the first person to guess the correct answer makes the next riddle, unless they don't want to do it. At that point, anyone can step in and make the next riddle.

This riddle might be a little vague, but let's see what everyone can make of it.

If "fate" had a soul, then I would be it, though a soul neither of us has.


Good luck!

[Stranger]

um...maybe lynx

[Masamune·1600]

Good guess, but not quite. Keep trying!

[ShunNakamura]

I would have to guess... Robo or his technical name whatever it is?

[Masamune·1600]

You're thinking the right way, but you're not quite there yet. Keep trying!

[Sepho]

I've no idea, so I'm going to randomly say Harle. My guess would immediately have been Lynx. Isn't he supposedly suppose to be a physical manifestation of fate, or something of the sort? It's been a good long while since I've played Chrono Cross, granted.

[Masamune·1600]

It's not Harle. Lynx makes sense in a lot of ways, but he's not quite what I'm looking for. Without giving too much of a hint, it might help to think of both Chrono games in this instance.

[Maya]

wild guess, but is it Schala Zeal?

[Masamune·1600]

No, sorry. Interesting guess, though.

You can solve this riddle having only played Cross, while you'd be relying on pure guesswork if you've only played Trigger. Trigger might help remind you of something, though.

[Maya]

ok, my next guess is Belthasar or Lucca because they designed the Fate or it could be frozen flame, but it might be too far fetched, or is it?
:D

[Masamune·1600]

In a sense, the Frozen Flame is the closest guess yet. But we're not quite there. Keep thinking about "fate" (or rather FATE, which I think most of you have inferred).

[Maya]

This is my final guess, Lavos, of course. Or was it named Time devourer in cc, what ever.

[Masamune·1600]

No, sorry!

[Maya]

well, I´ll try once more, could it be masamune? :D

[Killy]

Promethus? I know I didnt spell that right.

[Stranger]

well...the only other person i can think of is serge, is it serge?

[Masamune·1600]

Wow, the Prometheus Circuit is really close. It's the closest thing that coluld have possibly been said other than the answer itself. You guys are almost there.

EDIT: Although, in retrospect, you probably were referring to Robo when you said Prometheus. I guess I'm just hoping. Well, I guess you can take the original post as a hint, then.

[Maya]

Is it that red stone/dreamstone? Or possibly time egg?

[abrojtm]

Mother Brain.

[Masamune·1600]

Mother Brain is correct. abrojtm has it!

The use of "fate" was obviously a reference to the FATE supercomputer, which incorporated Mother Brain from CT into its circuitry. As computers, neither could have a soul.

abrojtm, you're up.

[abrojtm]

The lucid one will come to be
A burnished one that none can't see
In the keep far, far away
It is kept-day after day.

Combine it with this holy light,
And you will be able to put up a fight.


Eh, it's pretty easy, I know.

[Killy]

Wow, I have no idea, its been so long since I played Chrono Cross.

By the way, I was indeed refering to the Prometheus Circuit.

[Masamune·1600]

I could be wrong, but I think this riddle refers to CT as opposed to CC. The use of the word Keep is making me think of the Sun Keep, and by extension the answer would be the Sun Stone. It seems fairly consistent with the riddle, anyway.

Glad to know that's what you meant. Now I don't have to feel guilty about inadvertently giving out a hint.

[abrojtm]

Actually, I was thinking Moon Stone (The Lucid one will come to be), but you got the idea. I knew I shouldn't have used the word .keep :p

[Masamune·1600]

Ah. Figures. :)

Okay, let's see....

Six-faced am I, yet awed by the dark that sought me at the end. My powers grow in time, though time is all behind me.

There are two very different ways I can see this riddle being interpreted, but I'm only accepting one of them. Good luck!

[ehsteve]

I'm not really sure, but is it Spekkio?

[Masamune·1600]

Correct on the first guess! You're up.

Six-faced refers to Spekkio's six forms throughout the game. The darkness refers to Magus, whose power he finds impressive. Spekkio becomes more powerful throughout the game, but resides at the End of Time (hence, time is all behind him).

I would have expected people to also guess the Time Devourer, but wouldn't have accepted it.

[ehsteve]

I'm not really good at writing riddles, but here goes:
I am Reason's great invention, a gift of the magi safely hidden in a ruined world.

[Maya]

I am Reason's great invention, a gift of the magi safely hidden in a ruined world.

Could it be Epoch?

[ehsteve]

Drumroll please...........................Yes, it's Epoch. You're up.

[Maya]

Drumroll please...........................Yes, it's Epoch. You're up.

Hmm.....okay here it goes:
Mirror, mirror on the wall,
tell me who can pass this door?

[GibsonGoth131]

Serge.. probaly isn't him, but it's what made most sence to me since hes the arbitor of time

[Masamune·1600]

I'd have to say it's the party via Garai's Keepsake. That particular item allows you to pass through the mirrors on the Isle of the Damned.

[GibsonGoth131]

Ohhhh yeah, masamune's is better, he wins.

[Maya]

I'd have to say it's the party via Garai's Keepsake. That particular item allows you to pass through the mirrors on the Isle of the Damned.

Yesh! The answer I was looking for was Garai´s Keepsake. Was this too easy? Well, your turn.

[Masamune·1600]

For some reason, I find Chrono riddles harder to write than their FF counterparts. See what you can make of this one....

I am the hero corrupted, the master fallen, the knight errant, the love forgotten. I was twisted by the dark, that was itself once the light; but we were both redeemed, though I not yet remember.

Good luck!

[Perducci]

I'm gonna randomly say Frog/Glenn.

[Masamune·1600]

No. Keep trying.

[ehsteve]

Cyrus??

[abrojtm]

Magus/Janus?

[Masamune·1600]

No one has it yet. Good guesses, though.

[Magus]

Dario? he seem to have all the requirements. "twisted by the Dark that was once the light" is probably the Masamune.

[Masamune·1600]

Correct! You're up, MaGuS.

[Magus]

lol damn, how about you guys can make up riddles for me everytime i get something correct. i don't enjoy thinking. :D

now get to your pencils while i shout slogans at you.
FASTER!
SHOW SOME SPIRIT!
IS THAT ALL YOU GOT WEAKLING?
ONE MORE!
etc ...

[Yamate]

that jet racing after egtting the bike key(2400)Johhny?

[ehsteve]

I don't remember any of those, but it sounds like Ozzie.

[Magus]

erm ... it was a joke ... ... ... ... ... :rolleyes2 ... did anyone read the 1st part that said i don't wanna make up riddles so one of you guys we're suppose 2 make one up???

[ehsteve]

Sorry, I thought you were giving those quotes as a substitute for a proper riddle.

[Maya]

If you don´t mind I would like to make a new one.
I´ll leave this here if someone is interested:

Beautiful one, show me your power.
Reaching below zero,
even the hell will freeze.
Controller of time, show me what you got.
Release the heat,
burning, burning all.

[Magus]

:confused: the ... time devourer ? :confused:

[Masamune·1600]

Perhaps the Frozen Flame?

[Maya]

No, not even close.
I´ll help you a little. Those two things are combined.

[abrojtm]

Antipode

[Maya]

Antipode

Yesh! Your turn. :)

[abrojtm]

Water
She freezes all that block her path
Wind
Darkness consumes all
Fire
Eternally her flames will put them to death

[Masamune·1600]

I'd have to say this is another multi-tech riddle, this time being a Triple Tech, Dark Eternal.

Since both water and ice spells are considered of the Water element, "she" and "freezes" hints at Marle. "Wind" is what concerns me about the riddle, but if I take it to refer to the Dark element (and it does say "Darkness consumes all"), then we see the influence of Magus on the tech. "Fire", "her", and "flames" all point to Lucca. Dark Eternal is the only Triple Tech that involves those three characters, and each uses his or her respective element in it.

[abrojtm]

Hmm, you're about halfway there I suppose.

[Masamune·1600]

I've hesitated to reply to this riddle again, since I'm not sure where to head after my initial guess. I'm going to assume I was correct in looking to Chrono Trigger; although Wind would seem more applicable to CC, there are only two Triple Techs in the game, and neither work here.

If one assumes Wind as having to do with storms, then I could make an assumption of Lightning (replacing Magus with Crono in the execution of the Triple Tech). In that case, I would say the answer is Delta Force, a TT performed by Crono, Marle, and Lucca.

[abrojtm]

I'll give you a couple of hints:
Yes, it does have to do with CT.
Fire, Water, and Wind have nothing to do with the elements assigned to the characters.

[Masamune·1600]

I think I've identified the part of the game this references, but I'm not sure what the riddle is asking. I remember, when you first go to 12000 BC, there are books that correspond to Water, Wind, and Fire, and opening them in that order gives you access to certain areas. I'll guess the books, then.

[abrojtm]

You're getting so close, now just put two and two together.

[Masamune·1600]

I'm guessing it has to do with the Black Rock or the Nus. I'll go with the Nus.

[Llanowar]

And thats where I think you are wrong I think it is the Black rock since he seems to be referring to the books with the three lone words in the riddle.

[abrojtm]

Correct, it refers to the Black Rock.

Water
She freezes all that block her path
Wind
Darkness consumes all
Fire
Eternally her flames will put them to death

Water, Wind, and Fire refer to the order in which you have to look at the books in order to obtain the Black Rock.
The other three lines each refer to one of the users of the Triple Tech DarkEternl which it invokes. I hope this was an ok riddle and it makes sense. :(

So I guess Llanowar got it.

[Masamune·1600]

I guess Dark Eternal and mention the Black Rock and don't put them together? What was I thinking? I guess I somehow dismissed Dark Eternal all together after it didn't turn out to be the answer. Oh well. I look forward to your riddle, Llanowar.

[Llanowar]

I can restore you
but at a later expense
I appear to be untended
yet my caretaker takes note.

[ehsteve]

I forgot what they are called, but is it one of those machines that restores your HP and MP but leaves you hungry?

[Llanowar]

nope not it at all.

[Masamune·1600]

I can restore you
but at a later expense
I appear to be untended
yet my caretaker takes note.

The Frozen Flame? It is responsible for healing Serge, although the complications from this encounter are obviously enormous. Since this encounter caused Serge to become the Arbiter of Time, a number of problems would have been created for Chronopolis, and this certainly would have warranted attention.

[Llanowar]

More obscure idea than that....good guess and youre in the approximately correct way of thinking about the riddle.

[Mercen-X]

Chrono Cross or Chrono Trigger?

[Llanowar]

It's CT

[Mercen-X]

Something about that clone of Crono. I never got that far. I got to this weird point where there's this hole in the desert and you go in and fight Lavos. I got killed because I wasn't high level enough. I'm not making this up.

[Llanowar]

nope this is something VERY early in the game.

[Magus]

lmao it's so easy now that u said that -_-' you ruined the fun. its the Pink Lunchbag beside Gato's place. okay well ... I still don't feel like making up a riddle, so have fun makin up more riddles ^^

[Llanowar]

ah so sue me.....needed to get this thread running again anyhow.

[Mercen-X]

i Found it hard to believe, i found myself betRayed.
i fOund redeeminG myself to be a difficult task

[Llanowar]

the capital letters are FROG so I will make that my first guess since I am lazy

[Mercen-X]

:jap:

[Lich3636]

im cutting in line :tongue:

I am a item without use. I am guarded. You cannot prove you got me without a screen shot. there are scales and skin on me. What am i

well its nothing like Lanowars riddle but its not to bad

[Hexarar]

Naga-ette bromide.
I am a item without use.
You do nothing with it, just give it to the old man in 600 A.D.

I am guarded. When you pick it up you are attacked by three henchs or something.
You cannot prove you got me without a screen shot. It isn't shown in your inventory.

there are scales and skin on me. I am not sure what bromide is (I'm not native english-speaker) but naga-ettes look scaly.

[Lich3636]

correct a bromide is basicaly a portrait btw

[Magus]

(since this forum seems dead for already a week)
I think that means it's your turn to come up with a riddle Ace-eye.

[Mercen-X]

I go! I go!

I'm small but I shine for my creator and whisp her away

(I don't think there's anything else in the game that does this so it should be easy enough)

[Sarah Shirato]

I can restore you
but at a later expense
I appear to be untended
yet my caretaker takes note. Are you refering the " Time Egg" ? I know what it does..IT restore at later time(where chrono is restored) It appeared untended (Like it was told at kingdom of Zeal)
Yet my caretaker takes note( which it refering to Gaspar,Guru of time) I hope this right? :confused: ;)

[Hexarar]

I'm small but I shine for my creator and whisp her away
That sounds quite a lot like Schala's pendant. (I think Schala was the name)
It's small, it shines (The pendant started glowing! when you touch the sealed doors/chests) and the word HER gives hint about female owner. If that's right, someone other go instead of me.

[Mercen-X]

I was actually thinking of Lucca's Time Wand from Chrono Trigger.

[Masamune·1600]

Since no one seems interested in submitting the next riddle, I'll jump in again.

Technology makes dreaming cheap:
Instant respite all now can reap.
Yet while seconds do the work of night
Need still proves a constant blight.
Technology makes dreaming cheap:
But in these bleak times all still might weep.

What am I?

[Khimbar]

Oh i think i know that one, the machines in 2300 AD that heal you, but "leave you hungry" lol right?

[Masamune·1600]

And those machines were called....

[ShunNakamura]

Those machines were enertrons.

Mighty force,
under heaven my
strike is peerless.

nothing great but go ahead and tear it apart with the realitive ease that is its difficulty.

[Sarah Shirato]

Is it my brother Janus?

[ShunNakamura]

fraid not.. though that was good guess(and I could possibly understand it), it was the wrong one(think sequel :P)


btw, if anyone on any riddle I ever give can explain out their answers very reasonable I would be apt to just say yep you are right.

[ShunNakamura]

Mighty force,
under heaven my
strike is peerless.



Come-on fellas.. this was for all chrono games right? think it is actually very easy..."Under heaven my strike is" Peerless can stand for "Under heaven my strike is" ________. find that and you should have the answer if you are familar with CC.

[Hroth]

I think it's Lavos

[ShunNakamura]

'fraid not.

remember if you give something to explain it, as long as it was reasonable in my eyes, you would get it.

Grr.. just about rdy to just say it and give someone else a go... How hard can it be?!

Hint- Peerless can mean unequaled. so Under heaven my strike is unequaled.

Hint- Strike and attack can be interchanged as well. So Under heaven my attack is unequaled.

Hint- I am Looking for the character not the attack.

[abrojtm]

Serge?

[ShunNakamura]

nope...

Hm... this is odd.. perhaps no one else has seen the FaQ that I saw... it states clearly that this is in the final tech(and I have found nothing to refute it) of the character I am looking for.

Mighty force,
under heaven my
strike is peerless.

Hint- Peerless can mean unequaled. so Under heaven my strike is unequaled.

Hint- Strike and attack can be interchanged as well. So Under heaven my attack is unequaled.

Hint- I am Looking for the character not the attack

Hint- the first line is mostly filler, and is irrelevant for the most part.
Under heaven my strike is peerless

[Hroth]

Well, the final tech for Magus is Dark Matter I think, for Crono it's Lumina or Illumina whatever it's called... I don't know, im gonna guess Lucca cause that's who you are.

[ShunNakamura]

wow.. ppl are missing this.

Sigh.. perhaps an easier one?

Mighty force,
under heaven my
strike is peerless.


Fargo's Invincible(his "ultimate tech") is what is described. I have been told that the kanji that appears during the attack means "An attack unequaled under heaven." I have also seen this on numerous faqs.. so it the chance of it being right is slighly increased.


Lets try again.. this time lets do a CT one.

I can Change the flow,
alter the course, and I find
my use on death peak.

This should be easy enough.

[Hroth]

The Chrono Trigger. The one before I thought was from CT, not CC. I only thought about CT so that's why.

[ShunNakamura]

heh no problem. And you are right on the chrono trigger. so your turn :P

[Hroth]

Hehe, this is a CC one:

Bucket full of water
Crab of a fiddler
Things that rather
Relate to my character

[Masamune·1600]

Sounds like the Sage of Marbule.

[Hroth]

If he's the one washing the deck and that gives you the fiddler crab then you are right! I had no idea what to say so I just picked anyone I could think of, though I didn't know the name. Anyways, Your go!

[Masamune·1600]

If he's the one washing the deck and that gives you the fiddler crab then you are right! I had no idea what to say so I just picked anyone I could think of, though I didn't know the name. Anyways, Your go!

Yeah, that's him.

Let's see....

Not seen in this universe
Explains the first third of this course
Second part and third part, too
Combines contrasting red and blue
Yes: three-way course exploits this power;
Black beyond the final hour.

What does this refer to?

[Hroth]

The end of time? Or the Bend of time in CC?

[ShunNakamura]

Well whilst I am slightly off on the name.

Your riddle reminds me of the place in the ____ (Dead sea?) where you have to fight the freind of Serge's father... the place that is a copy of nadia's bell from Chrono trigger... GAh... why can't I recall the name.


I'll look it up after posting this and make an edit. but this is what I got for now.


[Edit] Right I am thinking of when you fight Miguel in the dead see. that place reminds me of your riddle.

The only other places I can think of where your riddle could be are-

The Sea of Eden when you fight those Vita things.

And Chronopolis... Chronopolis is where much is explained.

[Masamune·1600]

The riddle doesn't refer to the End of Time, the Bend of Time, any part of the Tower of Gheddon, Chronopolis, or any location at all, actually. The riddle might be a little difficult, but I'll wait for more responses before I start giving hints. Good luck!

[ShunNakamura]

no location? wowzers.. this may be tougher then I thought.

Well when I look at I can't find any way that fits all of it. but Serge seems to fit some of it.

Not seen in this universe- Depending on whom you are, the older serge is not seen in your universe.

Explains the first third of this course-not sure

Second part and third part, too-not sure

Combines contrasting red and blue- White element has both strong attacks(red) and strong healing(blue).. although blue still has the best healing element.

Yes: three-way course exploits this power;- Not sure about three but there are 2 ways "serge" goes. Dark Serge and Regular Serge.

Black beyond the final hour.- Serge gains lynx's body thus black at one point.. plus dark serge was dark serge till the end(if memory serves)...


yeah.. not right(or so I am sure of it) but good guess if I say so myself :P

[Masamune·1600]

Interesting guess, but the answer is not Serge, nor does it relate to him in any way.

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

Im going to say this is another one that alludes to a CT triple Tech.

My guess is "Dark Eternal"

It explains the Red, the Blue and the Black, and the three way course thingy.

[Hroth]

Hmm. I guess I could say Time.

[Masamune·1600]

Im going to say this is another one that alludes to a CT triple Tech.

My guess is "Dark Eternal"

It explains the Red, the Blue and the Black, and the three way course thingy.

Correct! By the way, "not seen in this universe" refers to the phenomonon whereby "Dark Matter" (a reference to Magus' role in the Triple Tech) is, in real life, invisible to science (other than the fact that gravitic patterns and so on suggest that it must be there). Red and Blue are Fire 2 and Ice 2, and "black beyond the final hour" refers to the answer itself.

Nakor, you're up.

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

yah i was kinda thinking of Dark Matter but the red, blue, and three way thing didnt fit for "Dark Matter"

~
I Lead to an outcome that you at first wish to aviod.
I am often seen but rarly used.
I reside in the center of it all.
~

I tried not to make it not too easy for Pros, but not soo Vauge that its impossible.

If you need hints i will give some.

Edit: Come-on Someone take a random guess or ask for a hint

[ShunNakamura]

go on and give a hint... I either end up with too many possibilities or none.. Likely I am just not putting my brain in the right gear.. but meh.

[Hroth]

I just have no idea.

[The Unknown Guru]

I think it is Lucca's telepod. You run by it all the time, and everybody freaks out when the gate appears. You also only use it once.

[Mercen-X]

CT/CC?

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

CT

Hint: Theres an old man that Warns you about using it.

Hint2: Even though you may wish to aviod the outcome, All paths lead to this end.

[Hexarar]

Bucket!
Uh, I'm talking about the one in end of time. Gaspar (?) warns you from using it 'cuz it leads to Day of Lavos. And the only way to beat the game is to smash The Snail. And it can be done only with Epoch, via the bucket, or through black omen (am I missing something? Hopefully not).
So, my answer is the bucket that takes you to 1999 A.D.

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

Yes, damnit! I knew those last hints were too Much.

Ok your riddle.

[Hexarar]

Hmm... Lemme see.
My dad is so kind
he's so generous, too
somebody once told me
I have said he's stingy and mean.

I am not sure if this is a proper riddle. Can't think rhyme to save my life.

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

Thats the Mayors Daughter/son speaking about the Mayor.

At first she says hes stingy and mean but once you give his ancestor the beef jerky he becomes very genourous and kind, and even gives you the sun stone that he found (which was yours anyways :( )

[Hexarar]

Yep. You're up Nakor.

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

Giving Power to the Blade of a Hero,
a dishonest youth held me once.
What am I?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Giving Power to the Blade of a Hero,
a dishonest youth held me once.
What am I?
the Hero's Medal

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

yep, your riddle now

[NorthernChaosGod]

i cant think of one. someone else take my turn

[Masamune·1600]

Let's see...

"Quid me vis" begins this "trial"
"Turmoil" transplanted from near the Nile
"Silence be" golden, "the...carpet" is red
Yet only action can answer the words that were said
"Friend of the planet," then saddening "gloom"
And his riddle, my riddle, begs green and blue doom
Finally, "the plague," then "knuckles of fear"
Craving the ending, conclusion draws near
Here wit can triumph, but if strength passes
You will leave with pride, but without the 'glasses.

This riddle refers to....

[Medi]

the criosphynx!

[Masamune·1600]

Yes, you're up.

[Medi]

I can't rhyme but I'll try:

Broken for thousands of years,
Find me in mountains and a cursed forest,
Only the sage of vitality can put me together,
But you'll need a rock that's long gone.
What am I?

[Chibi-Koneko]

Yeah, can I post the answer? Although I'm new here???






Answer: Its the Masamune. Cuz you get the Masamune broken,and you find the first piece in Denadoro Mts, I think. You need Melchior to fix it and you have to get a certain rock to fix it, I think its the Rainbow Stone but I'm not quite sure.

[Medi]

You're right Chibi-Koneko, it's the Masamune. Your turn, and the rock I'm reffering to is the dreamstone.

[Chibi-Koneko]

Ah o.k.


I'm Silent and tough,
I am lost, and this new life is rough,
I'm teamed with the others, and its unknown to our mothers.
Who am I...



Yeah, its bad I know.. anyways, it can be of a character from both CC and CT.

[NorthernChaosGod]

sounds like it could be Crono or Serge, or both. they both didnt talk. they were both tough. they both teamed up with others on their journies. both of their mothers were oblivious to what they were doing. and they both were "lost" so to say on their journies because they didnt really know what to do.

[Chibi-Koneko]

Serge is one. but the other is not Chrono.

[NorthernChaosGod]

is the other one from CT then? i would assume yes. then i would guess Magus. altho he wasnt really silent. he was the only other one with a mother in the game.

[Chibi-Koneko]

Technically, its Janus; Magus when he's younger. But, yeah, your right.

[NorthernChaosGod]

well i was thinking of Janus, but put Magus caz Janus never really teamed up with anyone.

so anyways, im not good at rhyming or making riddles so someone take my turn.

[Chibi-Koneko]

I just realized that. Thanks for pointing it out. so the answer changed, lol, it's a summary of his life. lol...

[NorthernChaosGod]

so the answers not Magus/Janus? if its not, wanna give out some hints?

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

it was the answer

he wants someone else to make a riddle now.

[NorthernChaosGod]

yes, someone make a riddle then.

[Lord Xehanort]

Azure and shattered
The six cry around
After the crash
Only half can be found

A journey to thither
and hither again
Use it whole to recieve half
Animals become men

What is it?

[Hroth]

The dragon kings? Or the artifact thingies?

[Lord Xehanort]

What 'artifact thingies'?

[Hroth]

I can't remember the names, it's in CC. You need them to get the dragon tear or something. There is a fire and ice and green one and black. They're like elemental artifact things.

[Lord Xehanort]

You mean the 'Relics'.

But that's wrong. It's Dragon Tear. You said it in your last post, so I'll give it to you.

Azure and shattered- blue and broken
The six cry around- six dragons... cry=tears
After the crash- crashing sound of Lynx shattering it
Only half can be found- Tear of Hate

A journey to thither
and hither again- bouncing between worlds
Use it whole to recieve half- you get the entire dragon tear, use it, and then only recover half... Tear of Love
Animals become men- Lynx and Serge switch roles again

[Hroth]

Oh ok... I got mixed up with the 6 things, it was for the dragons but I thought it was all it meant, that is was about the relics and dragons. Anyways, here goes:

Innocent and pure
Lonely in the future
Child of the past
Woman of the present
Seeking revenge
Taking nest in the evil's body

[Lord Xehanort]

Kid?

[Hroth]

No, unfortunately not.

[Chibi-Koneko]

It sounds like serge. I think, cuz of the line 'Taken nest in the evil's body' and Serge was suck in Lynx's body.

[Medi]

Schala!!

[Hroth]

Good job medigo, your turn!

Innocent and pure = Little Blonde girl in a white robe and daughter of an evil woman
Lonely in the future = She is no longer with Janus in the future, she is "trapped" inside of the Time Devourer
Child of the past = She used to be a child along with Janus back in 12000 B.C.
Woman of the present = She is now a woman
Seeking revenge = Didn't Lavos or something kill her evil mother? The Mamon Machine right?
Taking nest in the evil's body = ****SPOILER**** When you do the Chrono Cross ending using the Chrono Cross and the colour combo with the music and all that, she appears out of the Time Devourer in some kind of shell thing.****SPOILER****

[Medi]

ok, here i go:

ancient hands created me
to draw out great power
the power i draw out
can make the most sensible rulers
lose all sanity

what am i?

[abrojtm]

The Rainbow Stone? ?

[Hroth]

The Frozen Flame?

[Medi]

neither, hroth is closer

[Hroth]

The Dragon Tear then?

[Magus]

errr ... the Masamune?

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

The Mammon Machine

Makes Queen Zeal lose all sanity and it draws power out of Lavos

[Medi]

good job, nakor, your turn

[Masamune·1600]

It's been several weeks, so I'm going to assume that Nakor doesn't intend to come up with a new riddle. As such, I'll step in and post another one.

Messengers of God...misguided?
(When Time and Space are undecided)
Are people, then, people misguided too?
(Well, one loses all beside the Blue)
Who suffers then, errors celestial?
(One who split timelines terrestrial)
Then, can this one restore his Space?
(The answer lies quite near this Place)
But why do these answers so confuse?
(Because we're never told what she did choose)

What does this riddle refer to?

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

Opassa Beach?

[Nakor TheBlue Rider]

1st off I'd like to apologize for not returning sooner :cry:
Got caught up in FFXI :greenie:

2nd I don't think you should Give anyone mor ethan 4-5 days to return before you jump in and take thier question. your just condeming this wonderful thread to an early grave if you wait for poeple.

3rd and Finally the Riddle.
I'm pritty Sure this riddle inclues things from Both CT&CC
Now I only Played CC once, and I rushed, But i'd like to think im one of the many CT Guru's

Im not sure this Riddle refers to any one person or thing, so i'll do a piont by piont to see if i can see what parts refer to what.

Messengers of God...misguided?
(When Time and Space are undecided)
Are people, then, people misguided too?

This could refrence the Ghosts of the CT characters you see in CC.
Seemingly this would fit, but the 3rd line doesnt sit right with me. So i think im wrong at least on these Verses.

(Well, one loses all beside the Blue)
Who suffers then, errors celestial?
(One who split timelines terrestrial)
Then, can this one restore his Space?

this to me deffinatly Refers to Schala. She Lost everything in CT except the world, she was sent somewhare in time. seemingly the 2nd line blames God/some Celestial for her Suffering. Possibly Lavos, because the 3rd line reffers to a terrestril, which to me could be Lavos.
This Last Line to me, is asking if Schala will be able to reunite/restore Janus.

(The answer lies quite near this Place)

wow, to me this could be so many places. "IBCrayZ" said "Opassa Beach?" thats one possibility. Schala & Janus are Deffinetly tied there somehow. Also could be someplaces from CC that im not really familar with.

But why do these answers so confuse?
(Because we're never told what she did choose)

Once again I'd say deffinatly refferenceing Schala here. The Answers to these other Questions Confuse us, because even in the end of CC we never really find out what Schala chose to do. (I'm not confidant of this because of my unfamilarity with CC) We don't know if/how she chose to save Janus.

Anyway thats what i Gather'd so i guess my Answer would be this Riddle Refers to Schala and the Parts of the Story Lines of CT&CC that involve her (wow, that sounds like a very General Statment).

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

I would like to add my interpritation to yours Nakor.I believe this is from CC. though I do like the way you think.

Messengers of God...misguided? The Place Where Angels Lose Their Way?
(When Time and Space are undecided)Possibly the two split dimensions
Are people, then, people misguided too?Referring to Lynx maybe?
(Well, one loses all beside the Blue)Serge is lost into the ocean(blue)
Who suffers then, errors celestial?Lavos is errors celestial, everyone suffers
(One who split timelines terrestrial)serge split the timelines with his life/death
Then, can this one restore his Space?again referring to Serge and his quest to fix stuff
(The answer lies quite near this Place)Only place where you can cross timelines
But why do these answers so confuse?
(Because we're never told what she did choose)Unsure about these last to but I think it has something to do with FATE or Schala

[Masamune·1600]

Okay, down to cases. :)

Opassa Beach is very close, but is not the exact answer I am looking for. The imagery should suggest something slightly different. You're correct in assuming, IBCrayZ, that this riddle is from CC. The last line does refer to Schala, but only within the context of Cross, not Trigger. I'm not sure if any of the line interpretations from the last post was an answer to the riddle, but I need an explicit answer in order to credit it.

Nakor, good suggestion about the four to five days. I would have stepped in sooner, but I didn't want to take the riddle away from you.

Good luck.

[G SpOtZ]

hi, i'm gonna try joining in on this haha..

umm...for some reason i had a feeling that Leena took a part in this riddle, but i'm not sure why lol. i mean, Leena didn't take that huge of a part but in the beginning, and the first 5 lines seem to have nothing to do with her lol. and u said the Opassa Beach guess was close, and Leena was with Serge there...anyways ionno how to explain what i'm thinking lol but thas all i got for now.

[Masamune·1600]

The riddle has nothing to do with Leena, actually.

Good luck!

[G SpOtZ]

wow what was that called... interdemensional vortex? i'm not sure at all if that has anything to do with it, but i'm gonna say it anyway lol. xD

saying big words makes me feel smart. :D

[Masamune·1600]

If you're referring to the Dimensional Vortex, where Serge (in the form of Lynx) meets Sprigg, then that's not what I'm looking for. The answer does involve the fluctuations of dimensions, though.

Keep thinking about Opassa Beach. You guys are close.

[G SpOtZ]

actually idunno what i was referring to when i said that. i think i was referring to the battle area that u travel to when u use the time egg at opassa beach when u fight the time devourer

[Masamune·1600]

You fight the Time Devourer in the Darkness Beyond Time, which unfortunately is not what I'm looking for. You're close, though.

[assemblage]

excuse the intrusion, but i just had a thought....you said "what does this riddle refer to," right? and it has to do with Opassa Beach...? wild guess - it's not Kid's Astral Amulet, now, is it...?

[Masamune·1600]

The Astral Amulet can be interpreted to be involved with the answer, but it is not the actual solution to the riddle.

I'll be gone on vacation until August 13, so feel free to continue to guess, or to submit a new riddle. I'll bring this one back up when I return.

[NorthernChaosGod]

could it have anything to do with Terra Tower and the dragon gods and/or Harle?

[Masamune·1600]

I'm back. In any case, the riddle has nothing to do with Terra Tower, or the Dragon God/s, or Harle.

[ShunNakamura]

It is a CC riddle.

It has to do with Opassa Beach.

It has to do with the Astral Amulet.

It is not the portal you use the time egg on.


Only thing that comes to mind is the "where angels lose their way" location. Or the portal you use to travel back and forth between worlds.

[Masamune·1600]

It is a CC riddle.

It has to do with Opassa Beach.

It has to do with the Astral Amulet.

It is not the portal you use the time egg on.


Only thing that comes to mind is the "where angels lose their way" location. Or the portal you use to travel back and forth between worlds.

"Where Angels Lose Their Way." Yes, Angelus Errare is the answer to the riddle. Angelus Errare is a dimensional distortion allowing movement between the parallel realities of Home World and Another World. You're up, ShunNakamura.

For anyone that's curious, here's a breakdown of the riddle.

Messengers of God...misguided?

The word "angel" basically means "messenger". Messengers of God are clearly angels, and misguided angels might have "lost their way."

(When Time and Space are undecided)

Home World and Another World are parallel realities; essentially undecided time and space.

Are people, then, people misguided too?

A reference to the overcontrol of FATE, whose influence has been altered in Home World by Serge's survival.

(Well, one loses all beside the Blue)

The Angelus Errare phenomenon is accessible at Opassa Beach; Serge travels to Another World next to the ocean.

Who suffers then, errors celestial?

Kind of a filler line, really. "Celestial" is another hint that I was looking for something "angelic," though.

(One who split timelines terrestrial)

Serge, the Arbiter of Time, obviously.

Then, can this one restore his Space?

Can Serge get back to Home World? Alternatively, can Serge bring about the restoration of Time-Space?

(The answer lies quite near this Place)

Depending on how one read the previous line, this deals with either Angelus Errare directly or with the Darkness Beyond Time.

But why do these answers so confuse?

Why is the ending (and the Darkness Beyond Time is in close proximity to the phenomenon that is the answer to the riddle) so ambiguous?

(Because we're never told what she did choose)

A reference to the contested view of the ending where Schala bears the responsibility of dictating the "correction" of time. I really just included this to end the riddle.

[ShunNakamura]

Well lets see.. this may be a bit easy but heh...

From the dark it crashes
Deep down does it sink;
fated to rise again.


As I said easy enough... If it was harder I may have said which one it was from.. but heh.. if you don't get this.. well maybe it was harder then I thought :tongue:

[Medi]

Ocean Palace/Black Omen?

[Mercen-X]

Lavos?

[G SpOtZ]

Lavos?
i agree.

[Aidan]

Lavos?
i agree.

i agree to his agree.

[ShunNakamura]

Lavos it is. told ya it was easy :P

[G SpOtZ]

Mercen-X ur up

[ShunNakamura]

Well seeing as how 6 days have passed. And I would rather not this thread die out lets see if I can fire up another easy one.

Three versus one,
With a cordinated raid
we strike them down.

Go... another easy one. But perhaps Mercen can get his turn back. Still feel bad about ursurping ya.... :mad:

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

Well seeing as how 6 days have passed. And I would rather not this thread die out lets see if I can fire up another easy one.

Three versus one,
With a cordinated raid
we strike them down.

Go... another easy one. But perhaps Mercen can get his turn back. Still feel bad about ursurping ya.... :mad:
Triple Raid, Crono Frog and Robo. Its a triple tech

[ShunNakamura]

Yep. Your turn.. and don't take to long! ;)

edit- if you are wondering would have accepted either or.(who makes it up.. or what it was).

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

hmmmm.

Twisted by fate,
I was born,
I grew and changed,
became deformed,

I live on,
to grow each day,
I change and change,
many a way,
who am I.

hope that wasnt too easy.

[G SpOtZ]

ct or cc or both?

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

oh come on, make an effort, I wont tell what game (or both) until more guesses are made.

[G SpOtZ]

serge. lol

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

nope, keep trying

[G SpOtZ]

PIP! he deforms! hahah

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

yep, your up. told you it was easy.

[G SpOtZ]

that was totally a guess and i was joking LOL, but oh well

n i dun have one, so i'll jus pass. i'm no good wit riddles.

[ShunNakamura]

If someone doesn't grab it soon I'll just pop up another easy one(or maybe not so easy.. all depends on how my mind is working), but I gotta get ready for college classes soon.. would hate to be late on my first day.

[G SpOtZ]

somebody go, i suck at riddles. anybody.

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

I got nothing right now, you go Shun

[ShunNakamura]

Three are adept,
the rest work in vain; only they
have the nimble hand.

There are two parts. I can prolly accept either answer.. but I will have you give me both just to increase the difficulty.. still easy but maybe a guess or two will be made fore the answer comes all the way out.


[edit] cleared the riddle up somewhat.. didn't like how it sounded

[Masamune·1600]

It refers (taking both parts of the riddle into account) to the entire playable cast of Chrono Cross. The nimble three are those that can steal (Kid, Fargo, and Mel); the others are everyone else.

[ShunNakamura]

well I was looking for the three that could steal and that the riddle was about stealling. but that works...(you had it all).

Dang.. all well your up.

[Masamune·1600]

Let's see...

Four selected at a time
All four begin this simple rhyme
Four there were, but then mischance
Forced one from our lyrical dance
Or perhaps zero is more true
(Don't challenge Death beyond the blue)
Yet Somwhere else, three may still live
And fourth may yet have time to give
But does this time still bear mischance
Do past sins demand another glance?
Four there were, and four there are
If you purify that which was marred.

Who or what are the four?

[G SpOtZ]

hmmmm.... i was gonna say the four devas just because you said 4, and
"yet somewhere else, three may still live,
and fourth may yet have time to give"
radius was the only 'missing' deva, i guess you could say. don't have that much to back up my answer, but just getting a start at it i guess.

[Masamune·1600]

Actually, you're right; I was referring to the four Devas. The riddle was meant to suggest the current generation (the fourth and missing one being Dario, of course), though. You could say there was a missing Deva for the previous generation as well, but we never find out who it is (we only know of Garai, Radius, and Zappa). The big hint regarding the current generation was the Dead Sea reference, where Home World Karsh, Zoah, and Marcy would not have returned from.

In any case, you're definitely correct in saying the Devas. You're up, G SpOtZ!

[G SpOtZ]

sweet. first guess, i feel special XD

here i try:

I guarded the doors of the oyster's treasure,
the entrance to a cold forbidden body...
i've not been demolished by my own enemy,
but rather moved to another entity...
wielding fierce darkness at my edge,
it was only a matter of time that the twins' light awaken.
so that i could finally take a pledge
to my new beholder, the arbiter, the kaden.

what am i?

should be easy enough. btw, don't try to look up kaden anywhere. it's a word from another language, but i'm not sure which one. it doesn't have much to do with the riddle, just to make it rhyme, so i'll let ya know now that it simply means "fighter"

[Medi]

The Masamune, in chrono cross?

[G SpOtZ]

yerp. someone go.

[Medi]

A being from the past
Once warped into the future
Only to be warped back to the past
And become a prophet

Who is the riddle talking about?

[assemblage]

Magus

[ShunNakamura]

I concur. Magus/Janus is the only one I think it could be.

[Medi]

Yep

[assemblage]

woot. i suck horribly at riddles, so since you agreed with me, Nakamura, you go ahead and post one :D

[ShunNakamura]

With the power of
seven; deciding the path
of fate itself.


It ain't the best riddle. But i am fairly tired now and I get to work a good amount on tommorrow(stupid 5:30 in the morning.. or earlier) and the day after. Won't be able to check till about 5-8pm on either day(depending on how long it goes).

[G SpOtZ]

the only thing i can think of is the ct crew... there's crono, robo, marle, lucca, frog, magus, ayla. seven. unless i'm missing someone... i haven't played for awhile. the riddle is pretty vague...

[ShunNakamura]

I intentially did that so that it may take more then one guess. If no one else gets the answer I was thinking of by tomorrow night, then you get it. Afterall it does fit. Though I was thinking of something else.

And as I said it ain't the best worded riddle. Depending on how you read it can be taken several different ways. Just remember it can be from both CT or CC.

Oh yes the reason why I did not use that as THE answer to the riddle is because you do not need to get magus in your party. Thus in CT it can be 6 or 7. Keep in mind this riddle is a bit on the nasty side. Not a good one. But I was afraid I would have to keep you guys guessing for about 24 hours.. unfortunately I was unable to sleep.. so here I am again :mad:

[G SpOtZ]

i have another answer. the dragons from cc?

there are seven total dragons. they change and create terra tower after you defeat FATE

also, it could be the elements. there are 7 element colors, and then there is the Chrono Cross. i would think the chrono cross as the "power" of the seven.

you use the chrono cross to get the better ending for fighting the time devourer.

[ShunNakamura]

Yep the Chrono Cross is it.. but jeez you found two other answers that are at least applicatable.. dang. Anyways I think I will have to double check my riddles somemore before posting them... that is why you don't write riddles when 3/4 of the way asleep.

[G SpOtZ]

i got nothin. someone go. someone good go.

[Masamune·1600]

Let's see...

Past, Present, and Future
Time's three unseen ghosts
Yet they guard the true answer
(The one that matters most.)

Past, Present, and Future
Home to that life which tests
those that rail against fate,
those the Dragon God "blessed."

Past, Present, and Future,
Three views of the Thread,
Which then grants us entry,
Or leaves our three dead.

To what does this riddle refer?

[ehsteve]

Obviously something to do with the Sea of Eden. Is it Vita Uno, Vita Duo and Vita Tres?

[Masamune·1600]

Yes. You're up.

[ehsteve]

Sorry for not posting for so long. Could someone else come up with the next one? Thanks!

[Ralph]

I was nothing but a snack, meant to be roasted on fire.
But I grew.
I changed.
I am a master swordsman. But not in the usual package...

[druinmaster]

I can only think of frog if I'm right someone else make a riddle

[Ralph]

he wins. The snack thing was about Cyrus saying to mini-Glenn: "You're a marshmallow."

[druinmaster]

anyone with a riddle post mine will no doubt suck ALOT

[G SpOtZ]

"i guess i've faced the facts.
he's never coming back.
i've wanted to see his succession,
of what i heard in the letters.
but the letters stopped coming,
and i've gotten slightly lonely,
but i have one person living with me,
and i'm becoming old.
my memory is fading."
little does she know, the search will unfold.

i'll accept 2 answers, because there's 2 people that this is related to.

EDIT: actually, i want both answers. lol.

[druinmaster]

lavos and schala or however you spell magus's sisters name and I think the person the person is speaking of is magus/janus

[Bowser]

Queen Leene? :-/

[G SpOtZ]

nooope..

[?????]

Sounds like that one chick from FFVI that Cyan was writing all the letters to. If I didn't know better I'd say that.

[G SpOtZ]

well, i guess it could work, if this riddle was in an ff forum. but this is cc and ct so obviously it's not from any ff games ^_^

[Masamune·1600]

I think he was just saying that the riddle could have been used like that for FFVI.

Anyway, I believe the riddle refers to Skelly and his grandmother.

[G SpOtZ]

masamune's turn!

[Masamune·1600]

Let's see...

Guidance, placebo, or even worse?
Simple dependence, or still deeper curse?
Lives thus directed, and free will abolished
System perfected, Regulation polished
Still, fate would conspire against the fate of fate
(Formation of death does all things negate)
Yes, we see that in two timelines' division
One world can try to make its own decision.

What does this refer to?

[abrojtm]

I guess it refers to the Electric Storm that allowed FATE to be penetrated?

[Masamune·1600]

Not quite, but you're on the right track.

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

my guess would be FATE

[abrojtm]

How about the Records of Fate? It really makes pretty good sense.

[Masamune·1600]

Records of Fate it is! You're up, abrojtm.

[MEF]

Hmmmmm. Guess I'll have to play the gaem again, if I can still find me SNES and game. You guys really know your CT don't you...

[abrojtm]

An enigma I am
Shrouded by night.
Look into the sky
And watch out for a fright.
On all layers of space, time, life-you will fight.

An abhoration I am to the trio of men-
Only after you defeat me will the true fight begin.

[G SpOtZ]

the time devourer? (the multiple dragons into one)

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

It the Black Omen

An enigma I am- why does it float
Shrouded by night.-cant be seen at night, cause its black
Look into the sky- its floating in the sky
And watch out for a fright.-its scary
On all layers of space, time, life-you will fight.-found in all timezones

An abhoration I am to the trio of men- -you characters hate it
Only after you defeat me will the true fight begin.- beat it and then fight lavos.

[abrojtm]

Nope.

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

The six elemental dragons in cc then. maybe.