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Strider
03-28-2005, 03:41 AM
Yes, this is a discussion on white rappers. Mainly, who is the best white rapper ever? I present to you the contenders (at least those I could think of):

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Vanilla Ice
Sure, he stole most of his thunder from David Bowie, but who can dismiss Ice, Ice Baby and Cool as Ice?

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Snow
Some amount of words for ya: "I lick ya boom boom down". That's all you need to know about Mister Informer.

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Everlast
He got his first dosage of fame as part of House of Pain, but he hit it big in the late 1990s with his album Whitey Ford Sings the Blues.

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Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit); Mike Shinoda (Linkin Park)
Love 'em or hate 'em, these two were at the forefront of the rap-metal storm that swept through the music scene at the turn of the century.

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Eminem
Probably the most controversial rapper ever, but also one of its best.

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Mike D, MCA and Ad-Rock: The Beastie Boys
Mostly harmless, but numerous catchy tunes have withstood the test of time.

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Zack de la Rocha (Rage Against the Machine)
The voice of the most politically charged band in our generation.

Phil
03-28-2005, 03:46 AM
I dont like most of Eminem's songs, but Lose Yourself is pretty good, and for that, I'll vote for him. I like that song because its talkin about his personal struggles of being a star and yet being so spiritually depraved at the same time- good message, and it'd be even better if he didnt cuss in it. However, I still enjoy listening to the song.

Flamethrower
03-28-2005, 04:00 AM
Mike Shinoda isn't white.

I'll go with the Beastie Boys.

Strider
03-28-2005, 04:05 AM
Well, then, someone can edit the poll. It just shows you how much attention I pay to Linkin Park.

Agent Proto
03-28-2005, 04:16 AM
Mike Shinoda is Japanese/Russian in ethnicity. So, technically, he's half-white.

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 04:20 AM
What about M-Buster, Teksus Rainja, and their Wutai Clan?

Skystone
03-28-2005, 04:36 AM
Bah, where's Sole? And to a lesser degree, Eyedea? Not that anybody here's probably heard of them, but they are the best (white) rappers.

Kirobaito
03-28-2005, 05:55 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Da Teksus Rainja.

Crazy the Clown
03-28-2005, 07:29 AM
For me, it'd have to be Joe "Violent J" Bruce of the ICP.

Rye
03-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Fred Durst is a mockery of every living being on this planet... :)

I'll just say Everlast, because I really love "What It's Like" by him.

Oh yeah, and Mike Shinoda killed Linkin Park. They weren't bad before he started being the rap nazi (the first album was great because he was barely rapping) and killing the rest of the albums.

Chris
03-28-2005, 01:34 PM
I chose Vanilla Ice, mainly because of "Ice, Ice Baby" you can hate the song to death, but the fact remains, it sold over 3 million copies.
I personally don't like Vanilla Ice, but he's one of the best sellin' rappers of the 90's.

omnitarian
03-28-2005, 02:40 PM
The only rap songs I've ever liked came from Eminem.

But I voted for Snow, because a white Canadian guy rapping utter nonsense in a raggae accent is clearly a sign of the apocalypse.

nik0tine
03-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Vanilla Ice makes me laugh more than any of the others, so I choose him.

Resha
03-28-2005, 03:17 PM
M & M[s]. He has some nice raps with some cute ditties as the chorus.
:( Not the appropriate thing to say, though.

Aurey
03-28-2005, 04:19 PM
I voted other.

Because Buck 65 isn't on that list, and he's the only white rapper I can stand.

Spammerman
03-29-2005, 02:17 AM
isnt it kinda obvious for me???

Meat Puppet
03-29-2005, 03:43 AM
I'm sure Yella was white before he joined NWA.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-29-2005, 03:50 AM
You can't, you won't, and you don't stop.

Ryth
03-29-2005, 04:36 AM
Emeinem is the best rapper IMO. I love his raps and they sound good. He's the best rapper IMO.

Meat Puppet
03-29-2005, 04:39 AM
But can he wrap?

Rye
03-29-2005, 11:58 AM
But can he wrap?

That's a skill few possess.

I Don't Need A Name
03-29-2005, 12:00 PM
None really cos rap is awful anyway but i like linkin park so i went for him

Skogs
03-29-2005, 12:27 PM
It's gotta be the Beasties or Zach.

Crazy the Clown
03-30-2005, 12:06 AM
The only rap songs I've ever liked came from Eminem.

But I voted for Snow, because a white Canadian guy rapping utter nonsense in a raggae accent is clearly a sign of the apocalypse.

Did you hear Jim Carrey's parody of that song on the classic series, "In Living Color?" That was funny as hell. Especially the part where he did an impression of Popeye.

-N-
03-30-2005, 02:52 AM
I don't think he's the best rapper ever, but he showed up at one of my parties last year. I think he's back in jail right now though, because his website expired. :p

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/tvandradio/dside14_20030414.htm

I have his CD available on IRC if anyone's interested - there's quite a few gems on his CD Mr. Holland's Opus.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 06:36 AM
M.C. Chris, dammit.

Loony BoB
03-30-2005, 12:13 PM
1. Eminem
2. The Streets
3. Beastie Boys

Hooray!

crashNUMBERS
03-30-2005, 12:39 PM
Eminem. No question...

YukiKiro
03-30-2005, 12:55 PM
if you ask me, the whole rap scene is jacked up. but mike shinoda is at the top of my list, why? because he doesn't rap his lyrics, he rocks to them.

mateoff8
03-30-2005, 02:59 PM
I.C.P are the best white rapers

Dixie
03-30-2005, 10:23 PM
Emeinem is the best rapper IMO. I love his raps and they sound good. He's the best rapper IMO.

Necronopticous
03-30-2005, 10:42 PM
Out of this list, I choose Beastie Boys.

eestlinc
03-30-2005, 11:17 PM
You can't, you won't, and you don't stop.

yes!

Spammerman
03-31-2005, 12:08 AM
None really cos rap is awful anyway but i like linkin park so i went for him


ARE U SMOKIN???rap is lke 1 on the musics that let u forget wrds and improvise

Rye
03-31-2005, 12:18 AM
ARE U SMOKIN???rap is lke 1 on the musics that let u forget wrds and improvise

If you can't remember the words to your song, you're obviously not a good stage performer, nervous, or kinda dumb.

Clouded Sky
03-31-2005, 12:29 AM
can i pick me? i have TWO whole singles. someday, they'll be worth more than nothing... oh wait, that's not a good thing. so i don't pick me - heck i don't pick anyone, cuz I don't like rap, not even my own.

Polaris
03-31-2005, 09:40 AM
It'd be Mike from LP if Eminem wouldn't be on the poll, but he is so it's Eminem! He's really godd making rap, 'Like toy soldiers' is very good, 'Lose urself' is a bit annoying'...

DMKA
03-31-2005, 09:49 AM
This whole thread is just....funny. Before I came in I thought it would piss me off, but it' suceeded in making me grin alot. :D

I have to say the Beastie Boys, because they're awesome and I like them. :D I'm still not sure if Vanilla Ice was serious or not. xD

Strider
03-31-2005, 06:17 PM
Yo, Vanilla, kick it one time, boyyyyyyyyyyy.

crazybayman
03-31-2005, 06:41 PM
Rap..........yuk........

But I guess I gotta say the Beastie boys :rolleyes2

Brass Monkey! That Funky Monkey!! :tongue:

I think I dislike every band/rapper on that list, except the Beatie Boys.

Linkin Park aren't that bad, but I don't like the rapping aspect of their music.

Fred Durst is a tit

Eminem is just a big sook, who does nothing but complain

I liked Vanilla Ice as a kid, but then grew up

Never, EVER liked Snow, even when I was a kid - Informer?? WTF??

The only song I ever listened to by Everlast was "What Its Like", but that's not even rap, its actually a nice acoustic tune.

I don't think I'd classify Rage as rap, IMO (unless the singer has gone on to do his own rapping thing). That's like classifying Anthony Keidis of the Chili Peppers (greatest band ever) as a rapper (think of his lyrics in Give It Away), but that just is not right.

Just my 2 cents.........but I'm usually very opinionated when it comes to my thoughts on music. :p

Loki
04-01-2005, 02:07 AM
I agree with mateoff8 ICP is this Best thats all their is to say

Dingo Jellybean
04-02-2005, 02:30 AM
If you base it on album sales, Eminem wins.

But I won't...so Eminem wins. Really though, rap is mostly about re-telling a life from the ghetto, which is why Eminem wins over so many of these other white rappers. I'm not the biggest fan of Eminem, but he does have the most talent out of any of these other rappers.

Besides, Eminem can wrap too.

muchacho
04-02-2005, 02:42 AM
you forgot the rapper lil' wyte, i think he's my favourite...... eventhough i dont like rap.

if you dont know who he is, download the song "oxycotton" by "lil wyte"

TidaRalique
04-02-2005, 02:51 AM
Eminem is definitely the better out of the list. Better than most mainstream bull crap, I still don't like him though, not my style.

Swordicanus
04-16-2005, 11:34 PM
Eminem even though it don't listen to rap

Cuchulainn
04-17-2005, 12:05 AM
there are a plethra of better white rappers that youy haven't listed which leads me to think you don'y know a great deal about hip hop.
1. Sage Francis
2. Vinnie Paz
3. Aesp Rock
4. Apathy
5. Esoteric
6. Cage
7. Sole
8. LMNO
9. Block McCloud
10. Doseone

There a LOT more that are excellent, I suggest trying to explore the underground scene & avoid hip-pop chart garbage.
I was unsure what the definition of 'white' was, one of the greatest ever, Slug of Atmosphere is mixed-race with a white complexion, if that qualifies, he'd be 1.

Gollum
04-19-2005, 05:35 AM
Emeinem is the best rapper IMO. I love his raps and they sound good. He's the best rapper IMO.

Perducci
04-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Zack De La Rocha.

If he wasn't on there, I would've voted for The Beastie Boys.

Shoeberto
04-19-2005, 05:21 PM
M.C. Chris, dammit.
For serious, yo. MC Chris in the place, with a mouth full of toothePASTE.

Flying Mullet
04-19-2005, 05:29 PM
We're the Beastie Boys not Cheech and Chong!

Crazy the Clown
04-21-2005, 06:18 PM
I agree with mateoff8 ICP is this Best thats all their is to say

Hell yeah, cuz!

SadisticStreetSoldie
04-22-2005, 12:53 AM
Best:
1. Eminem
2. Beasties
3. Oteph from Oteph
4. Zach de la Rocha
5. Everlast

Worst:
1. MIKE SKINNER - how the hell is that rapping?!
2. Mike Shinoda
3. Fred Durst

TheAbominatrix
04-22-2005, 01:02 AM
I was a Beastie Girl in high school. I still adore them, they're wonderful. Their older stuff mostly, but I love them.