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Dingo Jellybean
04-01-2005, 03:25 AM
I know there's plenty of rap haters here, but what are your views of R&B?

Personally, I can't imagine my music collection without it. I love it...Next, Alicia Keys, Usher, Mariah Carey, R.Kelly, etc. It's easy listening most of the times, but nowadays R&B has some hip-hop beats to them. This trend started around the early 90's and I've never grown tired of it.

nik0tine
04-01-2005, 03:31 AM
For the most part I don't like it. I usually find myself asking "where is the melody?"

Leeza
04-01-2005, 04:05 AM
I don't like rap and I don't like R&B even more. Sorry.

Agent Proto
04-01-2005, 04:15 AM
R&B is alright with me.

Dingo Jellybean
04-01-2005, 05:33 AM
I'm kind of surprised with the responses so far. I'd figure the same people who hate rap would give R&B higher praise because R&B generally has little to no profanity and is often about soul and love.

I'm surprised people who hate rap for its lyrics would give R&B a lower rating.

krissy
04-01-2005, 06:10 AM
it's cool

fire_of_avalon
04-01-2005, 06:57 AM
I like funky stuff. I hate Mariah Carey. She's taken a gift and squandered it, I believe.

But I don't expect anyone to agree.

Dingo Jellybean
04-01-2005, 07:39 AM
I like funky stuff. I hate Mariah Carey. She's taken a gift and squandered it, I believe.

But I don't expect anyone to agree.

I agree...to a degree. She has a great voice, and most of her music is R&B, but that was early in the her career up to her album Butterfly. She's a mix of pop-R&B now.

The Captain
04-01-2005, 07:42 AM
I'm more or an old school sort of fellow, so would you consider the funk/motown era groups such as The Temptations and Earth, Wind And Fire to be R&B?

Take care all.

Dingo Jellybean
04-01-2005, 07:45 AM
I'm more or an old school sort of fellow, so would you consider the funk/motown era groups such as The Temptations and Earth, Wind And Fire to be R&B?

Take care all.

Next is kind of like that, but lean closer to hip-hop. I guess I would consider that Soul rather than R&B...kind of like Michael McDonald. I love those old school stuff.

The Captain
04-01-2005, 07:47 AM
All righty, I'm a HUGE fan of Soul then.

I've listened to quite a bit of more current R&B and most of it is enjoyable enough, but I guess my heart is just with the older bands and groups.

Take care all.

Rusty
04-01-2005, 03:25 PM
I really like R&B. Alicia Keys is probably one of my favourites. Some of Usher's songs I like. R.Kelly has a really nice voice too. If Ashanti's classed as R&B, then her as well :)

Is Destinys Child R&B?

Dingo Jellybean
04-01-2005, 06:40 PM
I really like R&B. Alicia Keys is probably one of my favourites. Some of Usher's songs I like. R.Kelly has a really nice voice too. If Ashanti's classed as R&B, then her as well :)

Is Destinys Child R&B?

Yeah, the music industry classes them as R&B, but they do have some hip-hop beats to them.

I've been meaning to get Usher's first CD too.

Cz
04-01-2005, 07:00 PM
I don't buy R&B records, but my sister is a fan of the genre, and my mother enjoys the motown groups The Captain mentioned. It's fun to listen to when we're in the car together, and while I wouldn't say I'm a fan as such, I respect and admire the artists as much as those of any genre.

redxiiii
04-01-2005, 07:15 PM
R&b is great!

MecaKane
04-01-2005, 07:45 PM
R&B is rap's wussy cousin.
Much like emo is punkrock's wussy cousin.

crazybayman
04-01-2005, 07:58 PM
I hate both Rap and R&B because of the type of music, not what they the lyrics say. Its computer generated music, or crappy music just generated by studio musicians hired by the singer.

I base my appreciation for music on the music it self, not what the lyrics actually say. I love rock, metal, and alternative, to generalize. I appreciate the power chords, cool base lines, cool guitar licks, and style of singing in these types of music, especially where I play the guitar. And I also like the energy, and intensity associated with this music. :D

Rap, R&B, Pop, Hip-Hop, techno, just does NOT do it for me. :mad:

I really don't pay much heed to what the lyrics are saying. Heck, its almost impossible to understand what the singer is saying a lot of the music I listen to. Somet of it is hate and anger music, and I'm a very happy person. I just like the energy, and intensity that comes with this music. :D

Uh......yeah........uh....yeah.....know wha' um sayin'...word up, home-boy.....yuck ;)

Chris
04-01-2005, 07:58 PM
The greatest r'n'b album of all time, listen to the sound clips. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001FT2/qid=1112385474/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/002-6307050-6088842)

Rye
04-01-2005, 08:08 PM
I don't like R&B music all that much, besides Alicia, but I like the R&B sorta beat in some songs, like Christina Aguilera songs.

Chris
04-01-2005, 08:19 PM
To say the least, I like the old-school r'n'b better than todays.
R'n'b used to be about connecting with your soul or the soul of a lover, r'n'b reflected the soul of black people.
In my opnion r'n'b, soul, rap & gospel belongs to us, not to sound racist or anything.

The Captain
04-01-2005, 11:16 PM
I've always viewed great music as breaching the racial gap: great jazz, great funk, great blues, great R&B, etc, all can blur the lines that might come up.

Take care all.

Skogs
04-02-2005, 12:48 AM
Modern R&B is the biggest misnomer in the music industry.

Rythym and Blues.

Look at the words.

Modern hip-hop/soul artists wouldn't know a blues riff if it hit them in the face.


RHYTHM AND BLUES

A term used for different post-war American popular music forms derived from Blues and characterized by an upbeat and good vibe. This term was coined by Billboard magazine's journalist Jerry Wexler in 1947, and it was the consequence of the transformation of the rural culture to the urban culture. Rhythm and Blues stands for Blues with a faster rhythm and introduced a the most danceable and popular side of the style to the audiences.
Some of the pioneers of the genre where Louis Jordan, Amos Milburn, Floyd Dixon, Charles Brown Howlin' Wolf , Count Basie, Jimmy Witherspoon, T-Bone Walker, and Joe Turner.
During the 60's Rhythm and Blues arrived to the UK, and a "white" new scene was born with artists like The Rolling Stones, Spencer Davis Group, The Yardbirds, Van Morrison, Alexis Korner, Manfred Mann, and The Animals.

In conclusion, rhythm and blues rocks. R&B sucks.

Palindrome
04-02-2005, 01:32 AM
I think i agree with skog. I used to like R&B. The lyrics didn't bother me at all and the music was alright. Now the artist have just stopped trying. most of them don't even write there own music and lyrics (not that this is new to the music industry ::cough:: Munkies ::cough::) R&B is becoming too much like rap in the sense that there is no originality to it. All the artist just use the same basic beats and rythms and dub there own lyrics over it.

Dingo Jellybean
04-02-2005, 01:50 AM
I think i agree with skog. I used to like R&B. The lyrics didn't bother me at all and the music was alright. Now the artist have just stopped trying. most of them don't even write there own music and lyrics (not that this is new to the music industry ::cough:: Munkies ::cough::) R&B is becoming too much like rap in the sense that there is no originality to it. All the artist just use the same basic beats and rythms and dub there own lyrics over it.

You can say the same thing about rock, alternative, punk, country, etc. With over a million albums released, there is not one group or artist that is truly original.

As for the lyrics, Usher, Alicia Keys, etc do write their own songs. They'll always have some help for some of their songs, but they do write most, if not all, their music, just check the credits in their albums. You'll see "Written by: Usher."

R&B needs a strong voice, you can't just rap over R&B and call it R&B. If you placed Jay-Z in one of Usher's songs it would never work. R&B singers actually sing. Most other mainstream genres can't boast that.

Breine
04-04-2005, 05:30 PM
I'm very much into R&B, soul and Funk... These three genres are one of the genres in music that I listen to the most.