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beema
04-14-2005, 07:19 AM
I'm playing FFV on the snes emulator, and I have a sword called the "excalipur." I'm assuming that this is a spelling error and it should be the Excaliber. So why does this sword suck so much for me? Isn't it supposed to be powerful? It says it has higher attack power than any of my other swords, but it only does 1 damage to any enemy I use it on. Is there something I'm missing? :confused:

Vyk
04-14-2005, 07:35 AM
Uh granted I never played through that game, but with just the info you've given I can see what's happening. Excaliber is most likely in that game. But that is not a spelling error. Rather it's meant to be pronounced phoneticly(sp?). Excali-POOR. As in a poor sword. It's a joke. It's supposed to suck. Don't use it =P Look for the REAL Excaliber.

Ultima Shadow
04-14-2005, 07:51 AM
Didn't you pay attention to what was said in the battle with Gilgamesh? :p

Excalipoor was supposed to be a trapp made by Ex-Death so that you would think it was the real Excaliber and use it when fighting him... just so that he could kick your ass easier and get the power of the Void and devour all all that stuff etc. However... Gilgamesh come by before the main characters did and since he was unaware of Ex-Death's trapp, HE picked up Excalipoor instead and tried to fight the maincharacters with it. :greenie:

Masamuneˇ1600
04-14-2005, 07:58 AM
This adds to the irony of GF Gilgamesh's Exalipoor attack in FFVIII, which caused 1 damage to all opponents. Of course, Excalibur caused heavy damage to all, Masamune even heavier damage, and Zantetsuken was insta-kill.

But, yes, Excalipur is not the real Excalibur (which is one of the Sealed Weapons). You will probably get the real thing fairly soon.

Ultima Shadow
04-14-2005, 08:10 AM
Of course, Excalibur caused heavy damage to all, Masamune even heavier damage

That's actually pretty strange since in almost all FF games (including FFV), Excaliber have higher attackpower than Massamune.

Meat Puppet
04-14-2005, 08:41 AM
I have two Excaliburs, and they both do 1 damage. What's wrong here? :confused:

beema
04-14-2005, 08:51 AM
ahhh, thanks for the info
I guess I skimmed over all the gilgamesh stuff earlier in the game

so basically I should get rid of this piece of crap so it doesn't keep auto-equipping all the time eh?

Ultima Shadow
04-14-2005, 07:20 PM
If you ever use the throw command, you may throw it. It does pretty much dammage when thrown.

Masamuneˇ1600
04-14-2005, 11:16 PM
Of course, Excalibur caused heavy damage to all, Masamune even heavier damage

That's actually pretty strange since in almost all FF games (including FFV), Excaliber have higher attackpower than Massamune.

Actually, it seems to be split. FFI-FFIII all had Masamune with higher attack power. FFIV saw Excalibur with higher attack; however, there is a caveat in this case. Edge's katanas were intended to be dual wielded; thus, a direct correlation between Masamune and Excalibur doesn't apply. After all, Masamune was the most powerful weapon of its type; Excalibur wasn't. In FFV, Excalibur did indeed have (slightly) higher attack power, although I still prefer Masamune because of the first strike capability. In FFVI, Excalibur is unquestionably more powerful; although the Masamune does not appear to be in the game, that's because it was mistranslated as the Aura (and the Aura was not a particularly great weapon). FFVII saw Sephiroth's Masamune, which had enormously high attack power (99) and accuracy (255). Excalibur was not featured in the game. Excalibur was more powerful than Masamune in FFT; however, Knightswords as a group were far superior to katanas in general. In FFVIII, both were Gilgamesh GF attacks; Masamune was more powerful. In FFIX, Excalibur, a sword for Steiner, was better than Masamune, a double-sword for Zidane. Both Masamune (Auron's Celestial Weapon) and Excalibur (Tidus' non-Celestial Break Damage default) were damage limit-breaking weapons in FFX, but I would take Masamune on the basis of its defense-ignoring qualities. Neither Masamune or Excalibur were the most powerful weapons of their name in FFTA; Masamune100 and Excalibur 2 were stronger. Excalibur 2, similar to FFIX, was the strongest weapon based on initial statistics.

Clearly, they are split, although it seems Masamune would be favored, if either.

~GoDD~
04-15-2005, 02:11 AM
u know wat i always thought should have been a devastation combo,
is if u had excalibur and excalipur equipped,(both) it should do massive damage!

Ultima Shadow
04-15-2005, 07:46 AM
Actually, it seems to be split. FFI-FFIII all had Masamune with higher attack power. FFIV saw Excalibur with higher attack; however, there is a caveat in this case. Edge's katanas were intended to be dual wielded; thus, a direct correlation between Masamune and Excalibur doesn't apply. After all, Masamune was the most powerful weapon of its type; Excalibur wasn't. In FFV, Excalibur did indeed have (slightly) higher attack power, although I still prefer Masamune because of the first strike capability. In FFVI, Excalibur is unquestionably more powerful; although the Masamune does not appear to be in the game, that's because it was mistranslated as the Aura (and the Aura was not a particularly great weapon). FFVII saw Sephiroth's Masamune, which had enormously high attack power (99) and accuracy (255). Excalibur was not featured in the game. Excalibur was more powerful than Masamune in FFT; however, Knightswords as a group were far superior to katanas in general. In FFVIII, both were Gilgamesh GF attacks; Masamune was more powerful. In FFIX, Excalibur, a sword for Steiner, was better than Masamune, a double-sword for Zidane. Both Masamune (Auron's Celestial Weapon) and Excalibur (Tidus' non-Celestial Break Damage default) were damage limit-breaking weapons in FFX, but I would take Masamune on the basis of its defense-ignoring qualities. Neither Masamune or Excalibur were the most powerful weapons of their name in FFTA; Masamune100 and Excalibur 2 were stronger. Excalibur 2, similar to FFIX, was the strongest weapon based on initial statistics.

Clearly, they are split, although it seems Masamune would be favored, if either.
Hmmm... seems like you're right! :p I never bothered to think that much about it. I just thought about it being more powerful (having higher attack power) in IV-VI. But still... since FFV is the game that Gilgamesh comes from, Excaliber should have been a little more powerful in FFVIII... and it should have done Holy-based dammage as well. Actually... that's probably another thing that makes Massamune become slightly more useful in FFV. It's non-elemental while Excaliber is Holy-elemental. I've always prefered non-elemental.

nik0tine
04-15-2005, 08:12 AM
Remember how you got it from Gilgamesh and it sucked when he used it? It's 'cos the thing sucks. It's Excalipoor, not Excalibur.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-15-2005, 09:06 PM
Pur.

ehsteve
04-16-2005, 01:30 PM
Take Ultima Shadow's advice and throw it at a difficult boss. It does uber-damage.

MoonZapdos
04-17-2005, 05:24 PM
Yep, no other use than that one. Sorry but that sword really sucks.

Martyr
04-17-2005, 09:07 PM
Unless you want to play a challenge game with that equipped to your best fighter.

beema
04-18-2005, 01:50 AM
well I have the real Excalibur now...so yeah...

Wayward
04-25-2005, 02:35 AM
i never thought to throw it, it's useless other than that. anyone check it's sell value? might be worth alot, might be worth 1.

it has a high attack Stat, but it doesnt do any damage. i thought for sure there would be a sidequest later in the game to activate it's potential... but i havent found.

Masamuneˇ1600
04-25-2005, 02:42 AM
There is no sidequest to enhance Excalipur, unfortunately.

eestlinc
04-25-2005, 04:21 AM
at least it doesn't suck as much as the thornlet.

Hinky the Pickle
04-26-2005, 04:28 PM
i never thought to throw it, it's useless other than that. anyone check it's sell value? might be worth alot, might be worth 1.
Yeah, I just sold mine. Didn't want anything to do with it and I ended up getting 1 gil for it. Bleh. :P

Tarjei
11-29-2019, 10:27 PM
Yep, no other use than that one. Sorry but that sword really sucks.

I disagree.

As with most obscure "junk" or "joke" items in Final Fantasy, there is indeed a valid use for even this weird sword, even if it's a niche use...

In Final Fantasy V, "Excalipur" (or Excalipoor depending on your version) always does one damage. What is not immediately evident is that it ALWAYS hits.

Always. This means that even with 255 evade anyone getting hit with this thing cannot dodge the blow and said blow cannot miss.

...

So, what do we do with this? Remember those gray squirrel-like things called "Skull Eaters" that first appear in the Jacole (or Jachol) Cave? The ones that are incredibly hard to hit and who will totally wreck the unsuspecting lowbie party? Did you know those things only have 1 hitpoint? Did you also know they're worth quite a lot of AP? 5-10 actually, depending on how many monsters are in the formation. IIRC they also split into multiple copies when hit with magic but since they hit rather hard this might not be a smart move. :)

Anyway. The Excalipur is the perfect tool to farming those little gray bags of ability points. Smack one with it and it invariably does the one damage it's supposed to and kills the enemy in swift order since their hpmax is 1. :)

In my view this is a valid use for Excalipur that you should make use of before you hurl it at Exdeath's face for 9999 damage.

...

Another glitchy use for Exalipur is to use it in combination with Goblin Punch. The coding that makes the sword (and a few simiar weapons) do a fixed amount of damage (in this case, one) is bugged when you use Goblin Punch and it instead uses the "full" attack power of the sword. I do believe that THIS particular use of the sword has been patched out in the later versions of the game, but it does work in the original SNES/Super Famicon version. The same buggy code still works with "throw" though, so feel free to chuck this at an enemy of your choice when you're done farming squirrels with it.