excalibur in DoS FFI

[YukiKiro]

okay, i get to the mermaid village, kick gilgamesh's butt, but i can never get the sword he's speaking of. if it is the excalibur (or whatever it is) how do i get it?

[Martyr]

The evil Mermaid, Zaischel, guards the Excalibur Treasure Chest. She's behind a secret on the right side.

Or it's possible that somebody in the dwarf cave will make it for you.

Of course, I never played DoS, so I'm probably making all this up.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

You get it just like you do in every other version of the game. Get the Adamantite in the Sky Castle and take it to Smith the dwarf. Gilgamesh's whole "I found/am looking for Excalibur!" thing is just part of his character.

[YukiKiro]

okay, how do i get to the castle in the sky? i'm also stuck at this part of the game. i've got all but the wind cristal, and i don't know how to get to it.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

walk9 (http://www.planetnintendo.com/ff1/walk9.shtml)

[YukiKiro]

i understand you mean well, but i don't think this helps. why? A) the shrines in DoS are just bonus grounds now, the fiends are in different places. and B) i've torn mermaid village apart looking for anything and everything to help. there's something there' i'm missing i just don't know what. let me go back and check it out.

[omnitarian]

Getting the Excalibur has nothing to do with the Soul of Chaos dungeons (or the mermaid village, for that matter). The adamantite is still in the Sky Castle, a compulsory dungeon that you go through later in the game.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

i understand you mean well, but i don't think this helps. why? A) the shrines in DoS are just bonus grounds now, the fiends are in different places.Apparently you've been misled. The Soul of Chaos dungeons are completely new and weren't present in any previous version of the game. Lich, Marilith, Kraken, and Tiamat are still in the same places they've always been.
and B) i've torn mermaid village apart looking for anything and everything to help.I've already told you that the Adamantite is in the Sky Castle. The mermaid village is not the Sky Castle.

[YukiKiro]

well i need the slabs for the language in order for me to even get to the sky castle, and they aren't in the chaos water dungeon.

[Masamune·1600]

The Lifespring Grotto, the "chaos water dungeon", was not present in the original game. Have you been to the Sunken Shrine? That's where the Item you need (Rosetta Stone, or Slab if you prefer the original name) is located.

[Dragonfire]

on the first floor of the Sunken Shrine, go the stairs on the right side not the left. once you get it, go talk to that delusional idiot Dr. Unne in melmond.

[Super Christ]

You should just read Dr. Unne's walkthrough. It should still completely apply for DoS, except that it doesn't have the new dungeons.

[YukiKiro]

i'll be damned. this was all my fault. not only was i looking for the rosetta stone in the wrong place, but i also got the excalibur..... and i already had the ragnarok, which(suprisingly)is actually stronger than the excalibur. man do i feel stupid now.
anyways, as of last night when i found all this stuff out i actually went on to beat the game. thanks for the help, and thanks for putting up with my stupidity.

[theundeadhero]

The Atma sword is really the strongest in the game.

To clarify for any other readers:

In the Sea Shrine go to the right on the first floor and there is a staircase leading to upper levels. On the top-most floor the Slab/Rosetta stone is found. Take that to Dr. Unne in Melmond to learn Lefeinish. Go to Lefien to get the chime which lets you into the mirage tower. In the top half, known as the Sky Castle, you find the Adamant. Take that to the smith in the dwarf village and you get Excalibur.

In the water grotto there is a sword called the Excalipur. It is a very crappy knock off of the Excalibur sword found in FFV. To get it go through the Water Grotto once. You will fight Gilgamesh on the way through and only get the Gengji Gloves. After completing your first run through go through it again. The door leading to Gilgamesh will be locked. You will find him in the cave-like area off to the right of the same floor. After defeating him you will see a sword laying on the ground. The Excalipur.

[Dragonfire]

but i also got the excalibur..... and i already had the ragnarok, which(suprisingly)is actually stronger than the excalibur. man do i feel stupid now.


I felt the same way when i got the masamune, i was like "Damn, you mean this is just a toy for BW to play wit now!?"

[YukiKiro]

how do you get the Atma sword... and where (refresh my memory please) do you get the masamune?

[Masamune·1600]

In the original FFI, the Masamune was the most powerful weapon, and the Excalibur was the second most powerful. However, a variety of weapons from other titles in the series were added to the DoS version, some of which exceed Masamune in power. Masamune is near the end of the game, on the same level of the Chaos Shrine where you fight Tiamat for the second time. There is no 'Atma sword', although that is a clear reference to the Ultima Weapon. In FFVI, there was a sword called the Atma Weapon that powered up based solely on HP. Atma, however, was a mistranslation, corrected here. The Ultima Weapon can be found at the end of Whisperwind Cove.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

The Masamune is in the last dungeon. The Ultima Weapon, or "Atma sword" if you like, is at the end of Whisperwind Cove, the Soul of Chaos dungeon that's near the Ice Cave, in that maze of rivers.

Edit: Dear Mr. Sixteen Hundred,

I don't know what kind of sick pleasure you get out of consistently posting immediately before I do and thereby negating my very existence, but I must say that it is totally sexy in any case.

Carry on,
The Kish

[theundeadhero]

The Ultima Weapon can be found at the end of Whisperwind Cove.Yes, after beating Omega go through the warp portal and it will be there in a chest before the second warp portal.

By now you should all know I prefer original "English" names and am therefore prejudiced in my posts.

[Skyblade]

The Ultima Weapon can be found at the end of Whisperwind Cove.Yes, after beating Omega go through the warp portal and it will be there in a chest before the second warp portal.

By now you should all know I prefer original "English" names and am therefore prejudiced in my posts.

...Please tell me you're joking... How could I have missed that? I killed Omega (he was a real pain in the butt, I had to have three characters healing while my Knight just chipped away at his HP 500 points at a time, but I did it [my team is a Knight, a Ninja, a Red Wizard, and a Black Wizard]), but I didn't see any chest there. I did see a chest between the other boss on that level (I haven't fought it yet, so I'm not sure which one it is) and the warp pad. Is there any chance that that is the chest you mean? I really don't want to fight Omega again, since the Murasame that you get from him is only good for Ninjas, and I only have one Ninja...

Also, where do you get the Ragnarok? I don't seem to have picked that one up yet either...

[Masamune·1600]

The Ultima Weapon is found in Whisperwind Cove. Omega is fought in the Lifestream Grotto. That would explain why you didn't see the Ultima Weapon.

Ragnarok is acquired after beating Shinryuu, just as it was in FFV (although the Ragnarok in DoS is statistically based on the Ragnarok in FFVI).

[Rase]

Side note: The boss right before the Ultima Weapon is Doomgaze. He gives you Lightbringer, the Red Mages strongest sword. After him is the warp portal and stuff.

[Skyblade]

Ah, thank you much.

Out of curiousity, what is the strongest weapon for each class (besides the Ultima Weapon)?

[Masamune·1600]

Ultima Weapon has strength equal to the wielder's HP divided by 10. Thus, it can potentially have an attack power of 99, which far exceeds any other weapon in purely statistical strength. Masamune, the original strongest weapon, still follows in second with an attack power of 56. However, like their counterparts in other games, a variety of weapons have additional positive attributes, like free spells or stat bonuses. Ragnarok has an attack power of 55, but I would take it over the Masamune on the basis of its additional attributes. Just as in FFVI, it adds 30 to one's Evasion, and adds bonuses of +7, +3, +7, and +7 to Strength, Agility, Intelligence, and Stamina, respectively. Ragnarok also allows one to repeatedly use Flare. Lightbringer (obviously Illumina from FFVI) has an attack power of 48, but has the incredible additional bonuses of +50 Evasion and +7 for Strength, Agility, Intelligence, and Stamina. Lightbringer also allows repeated use of Holy. Those are my four favorite weapons, although many people like to give Black Wizards the Judgment Staff, which has a +3 Intelligence bonus and repeated Flare use. Murasame, similar to its counterpart in FFIV, has +5 bonuses in Strength and Intelligence. However, it has -5 penalties in Agility and Stamina. Its attack power is 50, and related spell is Protect.

I noted these weapons, as I feel they are the strongest examples, if one's main interest is in dealing damage to the enemy. Ultima Weapon can be equipped on all upgraded classes, Masamune on all classes, Ragnarok on Knights, Lightbringer on Red Wizards, Judgement Staff on Black Wizards, and Murasame on Ninjas. Rune Staff, a White Wizard exclusive weapon, might be a nice choice if healing is a priority; it has a +10 Intelligence bonus and repeated Healara use.

[Skyblade]

Ultima Weapon has strength equal to the wielder's HP divided by 10. Thus, it can potentially have an attack power of 99, which far exceeds any other weapon in purely statistical strength. Masamune, the original strongest weapon, still follows in second with an attack power of 56. However, like their counterparts in other games, a variety of weapons have additional positive attributes, like free spells or stat bonuses. Ragnarok has an attack power of 55, but I would take it over the Masamune on the basis of its additional attributes. Just as in FFVI, it adds 30 to one's Evasion, and adds bonuses of +7, +3, +7, and +7 to Strength, Agility, Intelligence, and Stamina, respectively. Ragnarok also allows one to repeatedly use Flare. Lightbringer (obviously Illumina from FFVI) has an attack power of 48, but has the incredible additional bonuses of +50 Evasion and +7 for Strength, Agility, Intelligence, and Stamina. Lightbringer also allows repeated use of Holy. Those are my four favorite weapons, although many people like to give Black Wizards the Judgment Staff, which has a +3 Intelligence bonus and repeated Flare use. Murasame, similar to its counterpart in FFIV, has +5 bonuses in Strength and Intelligence. However, it has -5 penalties in Agility and Stamina. Its attack power is 50, and related spell is Protect.

I noted these weapons, as I feel they are the strongest examples, if one's main interest is in dealing damage to the enemy. Ultima Weapon can be equipped on all upgraded classes, Masamune on all classes, Ragnarok on Knights, Lightbringer on Red Wizards, Judgement Staff on Black Wizards, and Murasame on Ninjas. Rune Staff, a White Wizard exclusive weapon, might be a nice choice if healing is a priority; it has a +10 Intelligence bonus and repeated Healara use.

Cool, thanks. Nice info all around. But to use the Flare, Holy, etc, doesn't the weapon have to be in your inventory, not equipped? If that's not the case, how do you use it while you have it equipped?

Also, what do you guys think of the Orichalcum? I found it in a chest in the Lifestream Grotto yesterday. It is my Black Wizard's best weapon so far, with awesome attack, and the ability to drain 1/4 of the damage it does to my Black Wizard's health (although it causes damage to him instead if you attack an undead critter with it. Fortunately, it doesn't heal the undead monster, though).

[JaytodaP]

You just scroll up (all the way) and a little window comes up withh your equipment. Just select it from there. :eek:

[Fireblade13]

Great now i find it out that is just so peachy