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KoShiatar
04-21-2005, 10:20 AM
I saw some preview images and I found out that Mog appearance has really changed. What do you think? Were they better before or now? I thinn I'll miss classical Mogs a lot, they're the first Final Fantasy character I ever learned to recognize. I hope at least they still say "Kupo"...

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-21-2005, 11:27 AM
They still said kupo in FFTA, which is from where this game is drawing a lot of its art direction. The non-Ivalice games will certainly retain the classic design.

crashNUMBERS
04-21-2005, 09:23 PM
Could you post some pics of them. I would like to see the changes. Thanks... ^_^

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-22-2005, 01:15 AM
Final Fantasy III (1990)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffiii.gif


Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden (1991)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogusd.gif

Final Fantasy V (1992)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffv.gif

Seiken Densetsu 2 (1993)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogusd2.gif

Final Fantasy VI (1994)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffvia.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffvib.gif

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffvic.gif

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffvid.gif

Seiken Densetsu 3 (1995)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogusd3.gif

Final Fantasy VII (1997)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffviia.gif

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffviib.gif

Final Fantasy Tactics (1997)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogufft.gif

Chocobo Series (estd. 1997)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguchoco.gif

Final Fantasy VIII (1999)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffviiia.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffviiib.gif

Final Fantasy IX (2000)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffixa.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffixb.gif

Final Fantasy X (2001)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffx.gif

Kingdom Hearts Series (estd. 2002)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogukha.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogukhb.gif

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (2003)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogufftaa.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogufftab.gif

Final Fantasy X-2 (2003)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffx-2.gif

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (2003)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffcca.gif http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffccb.gif

Shinyaku Seiken Densetsu (2003)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mogussd.gif

Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special (2004)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguiss.gif

Final Fantasy XII (2005)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/moguffxiib.gif

crashNUMBERS
04-22-2005, 01:24 AM
I only meant ff12 ^^...

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-22-2005, 01:26 AM
*shrugs*

TheAbominatrix
04-22-2005, 01:30 AM
Well I thought it was great. Thanks Kishi.

PS: Meet me behind the bleachers for a reward omfg yes

KoShiatar
04-22-2005, 09:55 PM
Great work Kishi, thank you. ^__^
I tend to prefer classic Mogs for a reason though.
Two years and a half ago I met this guy who became a good friend of mine. And he gave me this pretty keychain for Christmas which I kept , hanging it on my bag even though I didn't know what it was. I just could read "Square" in katakana on the back of it so I supposed it was from Final Fantasy. And now here I am, picking up everything from Final Fantasy that could be useful for my thesis...and also all the rest of it!
And the keychain? I found out later it was a Mog. It's my talisman now!

crashNUMBERS
04-22-2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah the new ones kinda suck...

KentaRawr!
04-23-2005, 12:01 AM
I want a Chocobo Keychain now! o_O

The Classic Moogles are much better than the New Ones! At least I think so. This new design will probably just be for FFTA, FF12, and other Ivalice FF Games that come after them. o_o

Destai
04-23-2005, 12:28 AM
Thanks Kishi. Dont you just want to hug em?

KentaRawr!
04-23-2005, 12:32 AM
(Hugs Moogle)

It Died.

(Hugs Chocobo)

I choked it to death.

...I don't want to hug anything anymore...

Especially not cute little Moogles...

>_> I will hug the new ones though.

Cloud775
04-23-2005, 06:19 AM
I didn't know there were Moogles in FFVIII. I didn't get to see any of them. The Final Fantasy IX Moogles are the best looking for me. The Kingdom Hearts one, the nose is too fircken huge! I want the big furry Moogle (FF: CC) to be my pet. It's very cute looking, if I do say so myself.

Masamuneˇ1600
04-23-2005, 06:29 AM
I didn't know there were Moogles in FFVIII. I didn't get to see any of them.

In FFVIII, Minimog is a Guardian Force. Unfortunately, Minimog is acquired through Chocobo World, which requires one to have a PocketStation.

Yuffie514
04-23-2005, 06:32 AM
question: i always thought Mog/Moogle were the same, but now that i think of it, Mogs don't have antennas, right?

n-e-ways. they're ok with me. i like the ones from FFXII, FFCC, FFTA, KH, FFVIII, and the classical cat-bear Mogs. i don't really like them withe their eyes shut.

Cloud775
04-23-2005, 06:34 AM
Aww man, I don't have a PocketStation. Oh well, I guess I'll never get to see a Final Fantasy VIII moogle. It looks different...

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-23-2005, 07:13 AM
question: i always thought Mog/Moogle were the same, but now that i think of it, Mogs don't have antennas, right?In Japan, they've always been called môguri, and mogu or "mog" is just an abbreviation of that used for the sake of convenience--in the interest of keeping ability names short, for example. Outside of Japan, though, they're called either moogles or mogs, depending on the game. All these terms refer to the same creature, though.

Slade
04-23-2005, 11:13 AM
Ok first up im going to say that the only thing i hate more then a moogle is a chocobo. Moogles are extremely ugly to me....but these new moogles from XII look awsome compared to the older ones. I also liked the moogles from VIII, IX and Tactics advance

Destai
04-23-2005, 01:14 PM
Thanks Kishi. Dont you just want to hug em?Yes I was talking about the moogles just so we're clear. My favs were FFVI, VIII, IX, KH and FFTA.

My name is...something..?
04-23-2005, 02:22 PM
I never really had any preferences for moogles, as long as they had a pom-pom they were cool to me.

TurkSlayer
04-23-2005, 03:13 PM
I don't like the new ones as much. I personally liked the moogles from FFVI and FFIX the best. I also wish they would do what they did in FFVI again and have a playable moogle. I really liked that.

Vaprice
04-24-2005, 05:25 PM
The evolution of moogles, ah its great. It makes me laugh cry and want to play all those old games all over agian. It nice thanks a lot ^^

Alice
04-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I lilke the new Mog look, they look really cool ^_^ its like they r evolving. Though they could get so much more credit for just saying they r a completely new species in general ^^

Dignified Pauper
04-24-2005, 08:45 PM
i liked the old moogles better.

Croyles
04-24-2005, 10:43 PM
i like the new ones much better, they dont look so clumsy lol, but i guess they have lost that sweetness about them. however, the new ones just look god damn cool!

rubah
04-25-2005, 12:38 AM
the minimog from ff8 still looks cutest. the one from crystal chronicles comes close though:D

And no one remembered teh forerunner to the moogle,

the beaver
xD

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-25-2005, 05:57 AM
Yes, the beaver.
Final Fantasy II (1988)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/beaffii.gif

strawberryman
04-25-2005, 05:59 AM
i liked the old moogles better.
As did I. :(

Masamuneˇ1600
04-25-2005, 06:47 AM
I liked the moogles in the FFV (Anthology) bonus FMV sequences, myself.

nik0tine
04-25-2005, 07:26 AM
The classic design is much better.

My name is...something..?
04-25-2005, 07:45 AM
Yes, the beaver.
Final Fantasy II (1988)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/beaffii.gif


How could we have forgotten about the beaver? It was the epitome of awesome.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-25-2005, 08:00 AM
I didn't forget it. I just didn't include it since it isn't actually a môguri.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
04-25-2005, 08:12 AM
Bows down to Kishi's Impenetrable Logic.

:bow: :evilking:

He Also Excluded Moomba :moomba: ... for the same reason.

strawberryman
04-25-2005, 08:21 AM
Yes, the beaver.
Final Fantasy II (1988)

http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/beaffii.gif

We are the beaver,
we're furry and we're free yeah,
we are the beaver,
we got two big front teeth yeah,
we are the beaver,
we can chew right through small trees yeah,
we are the beaver,
we are the beaver,
we are the beaverrrrrr.

you might think a rodent,
is a pretty lame choice,
for a national animal,
but don't you listen to that voice,

nooo, cause all them birds and predators,
just take from the land,
but the beaver,
always gives a daaaam.

Dignified Pauper
04-25-2005, 05:06 PM
I fell in love with the short white creatures, that were stout and bulky. They were adorable. Now they have lost so much weight. I like FFIX's moogles because they resembled the old moogles, who were the best kind of moogles. I think square took a wrong direction with these moogles.

Destai
04-25-2005, 05:33 PM
I like the idea of Moogles being theyre own developed race.

abrojtm
04-26-2005, 06:21 AM
The sad thing is, I've played and beaten all of those games (and seen the moogles, even Minimog) except for the Chocobo series and Ikari Street Special... I'm a sick little boy.

I didn't really mind Montblanc and co. in FFTA, but the FFXII ones look even worse.

**ShadowZone**
04-26-2005, 09:19 AM
I like the mog in FFCC, I could paint his belly, blue or green or red or whatever other colors there were.

I think there should be a moogle game, Final Fantasy: Mogs Big Adventure

KentaRawr!
04-26-2005, 06:57 PM
Final Fantasy: All your Mog are belong to us

Sorry...

o_o What we need is a Moogle Theme song. But it would not be as classic as the Chocobo theme song because the Chocobo theme song has been around since FF2 for the NES. >_<

Ouch!
04-26-2005, 09:32 PM
Moogles look too much like rabbits and not enough like moles in FFXII and FFTA. I also believe FFVI and IX had the best concept art.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-26-2005, 10:15 PM
o_o What we need is a Moogle Theme song.We have one of those. It's been in FFV, FFVI, and FFIX.

Roogle
04-27-2005, 02:21 PM
Maybe he meant a good theme song.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-27-2005, 02:53 PM
:aimmad:

DMKA
04-27-2005, 04:46 PM
I imagine the furry art that derives from them when this game comes out will be rather hot. :D

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-27-2005, 07:40 PM
Sure, a right old bunch of huge muscular môguri with a million piercings in their heads and wearing red leather pants. I want to stab myself in the throat just thinking about it.

KentaRawr!
04-27-2005, 10:10 PM
They have a theme song? o.o Cool.

Well, now that I think of it...the new Moogles are a bit better. ^_^

The old ones are still really cute, though.

Laguna
04-27-2005, 10:29 PM
I like the new moogles- they fit in the world and play an active role. All the other mogs seemed far too existential in previous games. At least Montblanc in FFTA felt like a proper character.

Dignified Pauper
04-27-2005, 11:39 PM
Mog, FFVI, was a great character, and he fit the world. These moogles just plain suck... I have spoken!

*exit Marick*

Rinoa Heartilly
05-23-2005, 09:32 AM
*points and shrieks* moooooooogles :D *dives and huggles the moogles*

Thanks for the pictures Kishi m(_._)m

Errrr, yes well I had too much cafeine -.-"""
But those are the FFXII moogles, really? Strange o.O
I like these 'new ones' but I must say that when I think "moogle" I think of the classical design.

Gwelenguchenkus
05-23-2005, 09:14 PM
No, FFXII moogles actually don't look too bad.

The moogles in Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, however...

look horrible.

Drift
06-04-2005, 11:44 AM
OMG at the ff:cc moogle, and i thought the kh moogle was the worst...

Blitzball Hooligan
06-04-2005, 03:35 PM
i like the redesign for the Ivalice Moogles. I hope one of them gets to become a party member.

Craig
06-04-2005, 08:37 PM
I think the new Moogle design is great. I just hope it stays in Ivalice.

Tidus1456
06-09-2005, 10:00 AM
we used a ronso in FFX maybe a moogle will be playable in FFXII or FFXIII.I like the new moogle I hope they get to do some a*S kickin ^^since they r now in tip top condition.