Hip Hop>Rock

[Dreddz]

*Prepares to get abused*

[Psychotic]

...so the whole point of this thread was to bait rock fans?

Alright. OMG U SUK TEH ROCK IS TEH BETT0RZ HIP HOP IS LYKE TTLYZ GAYS!!!!!!!11

Good now?

[Dreddz]

...so the whole point of this thread was to bait rock fans?


hehehe sure was
And to point out that I think Hip Hop is better than rock
Im looking for a meaty arguement as most of the population on here are rock fans who i have nufin agaisnt by da way

[Dr.K]

I prefer not to compare/contrast musical genres in terms of their superiority. It makes me itch.

[Shoeberto]

Care to specify what generation/style of hip hop? I'm all for the oldies and some nerdcore hip hop, plus turntablism or stuff that's just kind of ambient beats but no lyrics.

The mainstream gangster bull<img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> sucks, though. Especially with all the white suburbanites that take it as gospel.

[Sepho]

I have a wide variety of genres occupying my playlist - I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to music, and I don't really pay attention to genre too much. I listen to whatever sounds good to my ears.

[Necronopticous]

Here's one for you:

Experimental Folk > You

[Pure Strife]

No.

[-N-]

How about * > You?

[Skogs]

I'm with Pure Strife on this one...

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Classical > Rock > Country > Trash > Lice > Bacteria > Intestinal Infection > Death by Strangulation > Hip-Hop

[Kamiko]

Um... DUH!!
ROCK
Dude, this question should be illegal.

[Cuchulainn]

This whole argument is objective. I Love REAL Hip Hop and I love Rock. By REAL Hip Hop I mean underground hip hop, where cash doesn't control output, same as rock really.
Hip Hop Like, Jedi Mind Tricks, Atmosphere, Sage Francis to Notorious BIG. There is fantastic hip hop out there. Unfortunately most people who are new to it or just haven't bothered TRYINg because all they see is the Fake Thug Bling Bling B**ches n Pimps Garbage you see on MTV.
But yea you can't really have a better>worse argument on this.

[lordblazer]

The thing about hiphop and rock is the fact that they both have the same orgins.The Blues.In which the blues originated from spiritual songs slaves use to sing.Now we consider them church songs lol.They are both goo dgenres i hate mainstream rap and R&B and mainstream rock mainly because it has apop sound to it.I like stuff that rarely get sheard.

[escobert]

Nas > hip hop :p

[Rye]

Pretty much ANYTHING > hip hop. Hip hop > Avril Lavigne though. :)

[XxSephirothxX]

Calling virtually any Hip-hop or rap music is an insult to the medium as a whole.

[Shlup]

The Wiggles > Hip Hop

[eestlinc]

This whole argument is objective. I Love REAL Hip Hop and I love Rock. By REAL Hip Hop I mean underground hip hop, where cash doesn't control output, same as rock really.
Hip Hop Like, Jedi Mind Tricks, Atmosphere, Sage Francis to Notorious BIG.
My good friend dated the DJ from Atmosphere. Anyway, I agree with you.

[lordblazer]

Tupac>The Pillows>pop music

[Cuchulainn]

This whole argument is objective. I Love REAL Hip Hop and I love Rock. By REAL Hip Hop I mean underground hip hop, where cash doesn't control output, same as rock really.
Hip Hop Like, Jedi Mind Tricks, Atmosphere, Sage Francis to Notorious BIG.
My good friend dated the DJ from Atmosphere. Anyway, I agree with you.

Mr. Dibbs or ANT?

[eestlinc]

Dibbs. He might not be the DJ anymore, actually.

[Cuchulainn]

Still is, he's not actually 'in' Atmosphere, Atmosphere is Slug & ANT (used to be Slug, Stress, Spawn & ANT) with Mr Dibbs taking the Tables as ANT doesn't Tour or perform he just drops the beats. They're all on Rhymesayers label though. <3 Rhymesayers

[krissy]

"Rock helped influence Hip-Hop, Hip-Hop helped influence the world."

[eestlinc]

Still is, he's not actually 'in' Atmosphere, Atmosphere is Slug & ANT (used to be Slug, Stress, Spawn & ANT) with Mr Dibbs taking the Tables as ANT doesn't Tour or perform he just drops the beats. They're all on Rhymesayers label though. <3 Rhymesayers
ah ok, I thought it was something like that. cool.

[Raven Nox]

I can't stand rap nor hip-hop, but if you like it better, whatever. I barely condiser rap music though, it's just fast talking with some beat, doesn't matter what it is, some people in my class were listeining to a hip-hop song with the ice cream truck song... :sweatdrop It doesn't doesn't seem like they even try with their music, sorry,


Classical > Rock > Country > Trash > Lice > Bacteria > Intestinal Infection > Death by Strangulation > Hip-Hop

Except for the classical before rock, I agree with this.

[fire_of_avalon]

I agree with Neel.

[-N-]

I'm posting because you copied this link in IRC. Damn you, foaffles! >_<

[Meat Puppet]

hip > hop

[Excelsior]

depends on what kind of rock your talking about. if your talking about gay ass emo rock my chemical romance or the used, then yes, hip hop is better. however, i tend to lean more towards rock, but theres nothing wrong with hip hop either.

[CloudSquallandZidane]

ME > Everyone else.

But yes its better. Most of the time.

[Lankyman]

hip hop = musical genre
rap = bunch of neanderthals with microphones
prove me wrong

:D

[Dreddz]

yer rap is not really my thing but saying there just a bunch of 'neanderthals with microphones' is just wrong.
DNB ( drum and bass ) which none of you would know of is mainly people with microphones and its great.

[BackRoomKid]

By REAL Hip Hop I mean underground hip hop, where cash doesn't control output, same as rock really.
Hip Hop Like, Jedi Mind Tricks, Atmosphere, Sage Francis to Notorious BIG. There is fantastic hip hop out there. Unfortunately most people who are new to it or just haven't bothered TRYINg because all they see is the Fake Thug Bling Bling B**ches n Pimps Garbage you see on MTV.
But yea you can't really have a better>worse argument on this.

i'm with Cuchulainn on this one...other peeps like dead prez, non phixion, and k-os can really rock a mic...crap you see on TV is just commericial, they'll be gone in a year

but i listen MORE to rock music/alternative/indie...that's just my preference (radiohead,interpol,cardigans,bright eyes,coldplay,weezer, yeah yeah yeahs, le tigre, m83) and more and more

genre's can't be superior to each other (technically)...rock and hip hop both have their history...i find the history of hip hop more interesting, guys like kool herk, jazzy jeff, pete rock, cl smooth....very cool people to learn about

[kikimm]

DNB ( drum and bass ) which none of you would know of

Oh?

Anyways, I'd have to say that I disagree. :) I used to almost sort of not really like it, and I used to be really open-minded when it came to music, but over the past couple years my tastes have narrowed, and it's only rock now. And I'd like to keep it that way. The way it sounds is overall much more pleasing to my ears, as are the lyrics, and the actual people in the bands themselves.

Go rock.


:D

[Rini]

Led Zeppelin > all other real rockbands > hiphop > nu-rock like Maroon 5, Green Day etc > mass-hip-hop & rap.

I prefer a much rougher style, but when it comes to rock, Led Zeppelin is unbeatable. And that's it.

[Blackmageboi]

you used the wrong sign silly
Hip Hop < Rock better now

[Dreddz]

Well this thread is going to be Locked now.
As a matter of fact, I didnt get the sign wrong
Hip Hop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rock

[Lindy]

yer rap is not really my thing but saying there just a bunch of 'neanderthals with microphones' is just wrong.
DNB ( drum and bass ) which none of you would know of is mainly people with microphones and its great.
...By definition of it being <b>Drum</b> and <b>Bass</b>, shouldn't it mainly be you know, Drums and Bass Guitars rather than vocally heavy?

[Dreddz]

DNB isnt really Bass guitars at all, the music is definatly less appreciated than other Genres. But this thread is old, so Ive changed my style and I prefer Grime music now.
anywayz DNB = Drum and Bass, but the bass dosent mean guitars

[Shoden]

wtf? really hip hop is just asnnoying rhymes about cars, women drugs, jewelry and other random crap. the only hip hop artist i like is eminem.


hip hop is responsible for charvas/chavs!

[Dreddz]

hip hop is responsible for charvas/chavs!
What a load of crap..

[Craig]

hip hop is responsible for charvas/chavs!
What a load of crap..

I'm actually going to agree with you there.

But I don't even have an opinion when it comes this stuff. A year or 2 ago I would've said "Hip Hop sucks" but now I just listen to whatever I think sounds good, although that is mostly rock I guess.

[Rye]

No.

Can't put it any better than that.

I think a majority of things would own hip hop, but that's just me. Rock is my favourite genre.

[Lindy]

DNB isnt really Bass guitars at all, the music is definatly less appreciated than other Genres. But this thread is old, so Ive changed my style and I prefer Grime music now.
anywayz DNB = Drum and Bass, but the bass dosent mean guitars
Then what does it mean? Is it music consisting of people playing the Double Bass?

[Shoden]

well do you see charvas imitating pop artists? no you see em imitating rap and hip hop artists using the language from songs and making even worse songs at hi speeds to good music it's horrible

[ZeZipster]

I like how you don't say WHY you think Hip Hop is better than Rock, you just say it is. Call me old fashioned, but I like music that requires talent. I enjoy synth-pop like Depeche Mode, but that's about as poppy as my tastes run (with an exception for really good singers). I don't like rock bands that don't have a good talented vocalist, which means I don't like any Hardcore or Metal.

[Rye]

I like how you don't say WHY you think Hip Hop is better than Rock, you just say it is. Call me old fashioned, but I like music that requires talent. I enjoy synth-pop like Depeche Mode, but that's about as poppy as my tastes run (with an exception for really good singers). I don't like rock bands that don't have a good talented vocalist, which means I don't like any Hardcore or Metal.

Oh my god. I found someone a lot like me. I crave good vocal talent, since I love to sing. That's why I love Christina Aguilera, even though her music isn't that great.

[Lindy]

It seems very much like people don't like to read topics these days and just bite on any bait that's thrown out, I'm disappointed.

[ZeZipster]

I like how you don't say WHY you think Hip Hop is better than Rock, you just say it is. Call me old fashioned, but I like music that requires talent. I enjoy synth-pop like Depeche Mode, but that's about as poppy as my tastes run (with an exception for really good singers). I don't like rock bands that don't have a good talented vocalist, which means I don't like any Hardcore or Metal.

Oh my god. I found someone a lot like me. I crave good vocal talent, since I love to sing. That's why I love Christina Aguilera, even though her music isn't that great.

:D
Yep... If someone isn't going to compose anything, and is just going to sing to prerecorded sounds, they better be a REALLY good singer. It just makes sense.

[jrgen]

I don't like rock bands that don't have a good talented vocalist, which means I don't like any Hardcore or Metal.
You teh win. :up:

[KuRt]

There is only one good hiphop song in the world and it´s also not that hiphop. It´s Eminem - Sing for the Moment

Rock rocks over hiphop anytime!!

[Shoden]

Evanescence are better than any hip hop band good vocalist music and stuff like that even Guys like Alice Cooper are great metallica good


but Eminem is alos very good

[Rye]

Evanescence are better than any hip hop band good vocalist music and stuff like that even Guys like Alice Cooper are great metallica good


but Eminem is alos very good

This has pleased me greatly. Amy Lee has an amazing voice, which to me, more than the great piano, and the rest of the instruments (which to be perfectly honest, the guitarists in Evanescence aren't great. 'Tis the truth. I'm hoping now that Evanescence has a new guitarist, they get better in the guitar area. We'll see on November 5th, the release date of the new Ev CD) because the main focus in the band is Amy's beautiful voice.

[GooeyToast]

Classical > Rock > Country > Trash > Lice > Bacteria > Intestinal Infection > Death by Strangulation > Hip-Hop

I agree.


~Keep it gooey~

[The Anarchy Angel]

*waves small emo flag* w00t

[Meat Puppet]

hip-hop > rock WOULD be true, that's if hip-hop wasn't hip-hop and rock was the "chewed up" grumblings of a strangely fertile and toothless old man in a wheelchair

oh wait

[crashNUMBERS]

I say they're even though I have been with hip hop longer. Actually I say rap/ hip-hop beats rock by 4 hairs...

[Lon611]

some1 clarify for me the subtle differences between rap and hip hop.

also, when 2pac was still around ruling the music scene (God rest his soul), his albums won awards for r &b AND rap. how is this possible?i never heard an ounce of r&b in 2pac. maybe the beat..but that doesn't constitute the genre...

basically, people have different moods and different emotions at different times. when im depressed or i feel overly aggressive, i tend to listen to hip hop/rap. when im in love or have been hurt emotionally, its emo/rock for me.

oh yah. hip hop>rock. tho im into the whole emo thing prolly almost as much. hip hop and rock are basically teh same thing, whether ppl like to acknowledge it or not....especially emo;they just use different mediums....

ie:hip hop:killing other ppl
emo:killing themselves.

:rolleyes2

[Pure Strife]

well do you see charvas imitating pop artists? no you see em imitating rap and hip hop artists using the language from songs and making even worse songs at hi speeds to good music it's horrible

If it wasn't rap it'd be something else, the large majority of these people are idiots and they need something to follow. And if rock had become the favour of choice of the violent idiot, what's to say the rest of us wouldn't be listening to hip-hop because we wanted a change from that which was flooding the mainstream?

I don't have anything against rap or hip-hop as genres, it's just there's a lot of people around at the moment who do it really, really badly.

[Zeldy]

Everyone has their own Opinions. Yes, to me, Rock > Hip Hop. But Thats what i think. It dosn't make it true

[fire_of_avalon]

Don't revive dead threads