Nintendo Wii (codename Revolution) revealed

[Dreddz]

How do I know? Cause this arguement has happened before in the past with the PS2 and Gamecube, and the outcome gives me the impression that its going to happen again. And at least the last Nintendo console didnt have such a stupid name.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.

[Sephex]

Mr. Common Sense saves the day again.

[Dreddz]

Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.
Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.

[Shoeberto]

Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.
Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.
Using a standard controller requires extensive usage of your fingers. People seem to get over that pretty easily.

It'd be really nice if you could contribute to this thread in a way other than blind Sony fanboyism every other post.

[MecaKane]

Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.
In commericals for normal controlered games, you always people jumping around and freaking out. That's because it looks fun. People are going to be less likely to buy a game if it's just one fricking guy sitting down looking bored playing it, whether or not he's just moving his fingers or his whole wrist.

And the hurt thing? Come on, I get by playing games with a PC mouse pretty easily

[Dreddz]

Nintendo's software will never rival Sonys. Never.
People are already saying the Controller will create a new direction in gaming, this could be true, but it dosent mean the controller will make gaming any more fun than it is now. While some are turned on by the controller, just as many are turned off. Some dont like the idea of being on your feet, jumping all over the place while playing a game. And if most of the games for the Wii will use the controllers special functions, then that will lose alot of casual gamers who like to traditionally lay back and play.You don't need to be on your feet to use the controller, nor do you have to jump or wave your arms around. The sensitivity has been reported as being perfectly balanced such that you can cover the whole length of the screen with a minor movement of your hand.
Well, in the Nintendo Controller trailer it dosent show people calmly sitting down playing. Say if you want to play a tennis game, Im sure people wont be able to just sit down and move there hand side to side slightly. In most modes of play, it all involves active movement. Im sure even moving your hand up and hand will hurt the wrist after a while.
Using a standard controller requires extensive usage of your fingers. People seem to get over that pretty easily.

It'd be really nice if you could contribute to this thread in a way other than blind Sony fanboyism every other post.
Well, I think there should be two sides to an arguement. Sorry if im being pesimistic about the Wii, but its the insane optimism that the Wii is getting that makes me feel angry, why? Cause no one has even touched a controller yet.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

The press was allowed to handle the controller and play demos of games at last year's Tokyo Game Show. That's where the reports of the controller's comfort originated.

[Maxico]

Wrong. Nintendo has ALWAYS been the innovative one of the bunch.

Nintendo=Rumble pack
Nintendo=Wireless controller
Nintendo=Gameboys
Nintendo=Kongas
Nintendo=Joystick (home systems)
Nintendo=Stylus (DS)

PS: Nintendo fail??? you gotta be kidding me


As I've said countless times before Nintendo didn't invent those. Well apart from the 'Kongas' and I'm not too sure about the Rumble Pack.

Wireless controllers have been around for ages. I remember using one for the PS1.

The Gameboy wasn't the first handheld, or even the first handheld to use cartridges.

The joystick (I assume you meant analog stick) was done by Sega on the MegaDrive first (even if it is fairly rare and exclusive to Japan)

And stylus (Styli? What's the plural for that?) have been in use for years. I've even used my tablet to play games on my PC (not to much success however).


Nintendo didn't invent any of these but as mentioned before, they were the first to make them standard in their consoles.
That doesn't make Nintendo innovative. That's just marketing.


Before those consoles, Nintendo's only real competitor was Sega, who were selling an inferior product with only a marketing-devised image of "cool" to support them.

That's a good point, however Sony still had an amazing amount of market pentration very quickly. The N64 (The decision to use cartidges in particular.) played a very large role in that.

[Dreddz]

Thanks for the Info Maxico. BLAM !

[Sephex]

Jesus ****ing Christ, some of you need to admit that you are biased for/against Nintendo already.

For the record, I remember people around here saying that the DS would go the way of Game Gear...Hmmm...

And then there were people who said the PSP would be too expensive for consumers to get into...Hmmm...

Lesson: Most gamers who express opinions online are douche bags who have no clue what they are talking about.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Rather than continueing this 'oh so fun to read' arguement... of which I see major fact errors on both sides... -_-; I'm just going to say, Nintendo is still here today, after all this time, they know what they are doing, and they're still going strong.

On the topic of the name, the longer I've known about it, the more it seems to work for me... no, I'm not really going to say I like it... but I will say its going to work just fine for the console's name.

So anyway, Anyone heard about this?
http://dsrevolution.com/article.php?articleid=1056


Friday last week, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales and marketing, Reggie Fils-Aime made a special guest appearence in New York's Nintendo World store.

Answering countless questions in the store about the Nintendo DS and the Nintendo Wii, nothing new was confirmed by Reggie. However, when asked about how a racing game would work with the Wii Controller, Reggie Fils-Aime revealed that Nintendo are currently in development of a racing game for the Wii, and they will be showing it off at E3.

"We're going to show off a racing game at E3 where you use the core controller in a very different way, that will answer all the questions about how you'll play a racing game." Reggie revealed to the audience.

So what kind of racer is in store for the Wii? A Mario Kart installment? Perhaps F-Zero? Or Excitebike? Maybe something completely new? Rest assured that Nintendo will reveal all details at the E3 expo.

Stay tuned to DSRevolution.com for more on this racer and all the coverage on the Nintendo news.

[DeathKnight]

Well, Nintendo is actually making wise decisions now by staying in a specific market niche. Instead of developing amazingly powerful impressive hardware, they are building efficient and cost-effective systems that cater to specific parts of the gaming market.

I personally think that Nintendo would die if they went directly head to head in the overall gaming market with Sony and Microsoft. It's their specialization that is keeping them strong and afloat.

In the mean time, while Sony and MS throw large amounts of money into their consoles, Nintendo sits back and conserves its resources while picking up many of the specialty areas of the gaming market. It's a wise choice, if you ask me and one that will keep them in business.

What makes you think Nintendo would EVER lose to Microsoft??? man oh man, I can't believe people would ever THINK that.

[LunarWeaver]

I like my Gamecube, and I'd never buy an Xbox, but there's no denying sales figures that say Microsoft > Nintendo in terms of business.

[Shoeberto]

Lesson: Most gamers who express opinions online are douche bags who have no clue what they are talking about.
I like you. Let's be friends okay?

[KentaRawr!]

Lesson: Most gamers who express opinions online are douche bags who have no clue what they are talking about.

That sums up my personality pretty well. o_o

Edit: Hmm... I think I have a good idea of how that racing game will use the controller. :p

[DeathKnight]

Lesson: Most gamers who express opinions online are douche bags who have no clue what they are talking about.

Thankfully there are exceptions

[Dreddz]

People with opinions are douche bags ?

[Jowy]

I had a wireless controller for my NES. ^_^

Anywho, Nintendo was the first company to mass produce it's own first party wireless controller, rather than some crappy MadCatz thing that'll break as soon as you push more than three buttons at once.

The analog stick was integral to the Nintendo 64's controller, whereas for other controllers previous, it was an alternative to a d-pad.

Vibrating controllers were another first hand idea from Nintendo, even though the Rumble Pak was kinda clunky.

The stylus working its way into the control scheme of a d-pad, four buttons, and shoulder buttons (another Nintendo first), was quite a unique and successful idea.

The way I look at it, Nintendo's got the market in the palm of their hands, Microsoft is keeping it's fanbase foaming at the mouth with the prospect of another Halo game, and Sony just seems like the kids who got stoned and forgot their research papers were due the next day, and seem unsure of whether or not they're going to pass and succeed, or go to summer school, and figure out what to do.

It's not blatant fanboyism, because I like the XB360 controller a lot, and the way they run their online service, and Sony's going to have a lot of the games I'll want to play. It just seems like Nintendo's going to come out swinging, and set the bar yet again.

[DeathKnight]

I had a wireless controller for my NES. ^_^

Anywho, Nintendo was the first company to mass produce it's own first party wireless controller, rather than some crappy MadCatz thing that'll break as soon as you push more than three buttons at once.

The analog stick was integral to the Nintendo 64's controller, whereas for other controllers previous, it was an alternative to a d-pad.

Vibrating controllers were another first hand idea from Nintendo, even though the Rumble Pak was kinda clunky.

The stylus working its way into the control scheme of a d-pad, four buttons, and shoulder buttons (another Nintendo first), was quite a unique and successful idea.

The way I look at it, Nintendo's got the market in the palm of their hands, Microsoft is keeping it's fanbase foaming at the mouth with the prospect of another Halo game, and Sony just seems like the kids who got stoned and forgot their research papers were due the next day, and seem unsure of whether or not they're going to pass and succeed, or go to summer school, and figure out what to do.

It's not blatant fanboyism, because I like the XB360 controller a lot, and the way they run their online service, and Sony's going to have a lot of the games I'll want to play. It just seems like Nintendo's going to come out swinging, and set the bar yet again.

That's what I was trying to explain earlier.

You tell 'em Jowy :mario:

[Dreddz]

Sony and Microsoft will both be around for a very long time regardless of there success in the console war. Becuase they many other profitable products they can take money from to recover from there losses, unlike sega, and the soon to be dead Nintendo.
Taken from the PS3 thread.

[DeathKnight]

XBOX more like SUXBOX hahahahah



ok that wasn't funny.



Sony and Microsoft will both be around for a very long time regardless of there success in the console war. Becuase they many other profitable products they can take money from to recover from there losses, unlike sega, and the soon to be dead Nintindo.

Nitendo will NEVER be gone. Microsoft doing so BADLY in Japan makes me believe that Microsoft's the one who will end up "dead."

*points to DS sales* :chuckle:
Soon, Wii will be selling in the same way.

pfft! Nitendo gone, give ma a break.

The old days were awesome, when SONY and Nintendo went at it. It was magical

Metal Gear VS Zelda

Mario VS Crash

ect.

Taken from the PlayStation3 thread.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Just saw this screenshot from Sadness for the Wii.

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/704/704985/sadness-20060504033205729.jpg
(If that^ link doesn't work this one next should...)
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/img_3569365.html

I don't see how anyone could doubt the Wii's visual abilities, after seeing a screenshot like that. ^_~

[Maxico]

On the April 4, 2006, NIBRIS released two screen-captures "based-on" Sadness. The two pictures were released to Revolution Report who could only confirm that the two pictures were not screen-captures from a Sadness film.

Sounds like promotional material. Considering that another picture showed a woman holding the Wii controller it's probably just to demonstrate how the game would work. Not to mention that those screenshots (if that's what they are) look better than most pre-rendered CG.

http://gameinformer.com/NR/rdonlyres/2262D07E-A232-4DD4-8296-0F3D39AAC998/9149/rayman.jpg looks more on par with what I've heard of it's capabilities.


Not that it really matters, they clearly stated that they want to move away from the graphic centric side of gaming. The graphics are obviously intended to come second after gameplay.

[Samuraid]

Just saw this screenshot from Sadness for the Wii.

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/704/704985/sadness-20060504033205729.jpg
(If that^ link doesn't work this one next should...)
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/img_3569365.html

I don't see how anyone could doubt the Wii's visual abilities, after seeing a screenshot like that. ^_~
Just for reference, those are live action shots, not 3D generated graphics.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Thats funny, I was told the screenshots were part of a trailer for Sadness, which contains some live action shots of a woman playing the game, and scenes from the game.

Thus I'm just assuming that,
THIS is Live action:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/img_3568837.html

And THIS is in-game:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/img_3568839.html

Which would lead me to beleive that this too is in-game:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/img_3569365.html

Otherwise this would be a very weird trailer, with no game play, just live action stuff O_o;... And I'm sure their trailer, which they might show at E3, will have game play in it.

I could be wrong... O_o... Its just, whats the point in releasing pictures like this, if they aren't from the game...

[Nick Schovitz]

Why are they calling it wii, won't it confuse the french? oui means yes in there language.

[DeathKnight]

Why are they calling it wii, won't it confuse the french? oui means yes in there language.

They can buy the system and say "YES!" in their language:)

[Agent Proto]

A new controller has been shown! It's official!



Source (http://www.nintendogal.com)

-Miyamoto comes out in a conductor's outfit and proceeds to use the Wii controller to conduct an orchestra in real time (sadly, he has no sense of timing it seems).
- Reggie comes out and talks then confirms a speaker in the Wii controller.
- A video is played that shows Wii games: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, A flight simulator, and the new WarioWare.
- Zelda is also shown during this video which shows off the Wii functionality: i.e. fishing as well as using the hookshot.
- Another video with games: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Dragon Quest Swords, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Fire Emblem, Sponge Bob Square Pants, Cars, Super Mario Galaxy, SD Gundam G Breaker, Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, Sengoku Action, Excite Truck, Elebits, Red Steel, Rayman 4, Pangya, Sonic, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., Finalfurlong Revolution, Madden, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, and Twilight Princess.
- Nintendo confirms they will launch Twilight Princess along with the Wii.
- Twilight Princess controls for the Wii explained as well as how the speaker in the controller will react when you use the bow (you'll hear the bow pull taut).
- Excite Truck is shown, you turn the Wii controller on its side to steer.
- Along with Excite Truck are 2 more new franchises, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. and Disaster: Day of Crisis.
- More Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles shown.
- 3rd party Wii games announced: Sonic, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles., Madden 07, Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam, Rayman 4, Spongebob Squarepants.
- Reggie states there are 27 Wii games on the show floor.
- No price or date will be announced at thist time.
- Ubisoft demoed their Red Steel Wii title.
- George Harrison comes out and gives us stats.
- DS games: Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, Pokemon (red/blue Dungeon)
- Phantom Hourglass is shown.
- 100 new games from now until the end of the year says Harrison.
- More games shown: Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Starfox DS, Diddy Kong Racing, Final Fantasy III, Yoshi 2, Elite Beat Agents (Ouendan), Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon, Diddy Kong Racing, Big Brain Academy, Mario vs. DK 2: March of the Minis.
- Iwata comes out and talks about being different in the market
- Iwata announces that the Wii will stay connected online even when you power it off: "Wii Connect 24"
- Winner of the AOL contest to be the first to play comes up and plays Tennis with Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie. The avatars for the three Nintendo guys are hilarious.
- Team Miyamoto (and the winner, Scott) wins.
- Reggie thanks everyone for coming.

[Shoeberto]

I saw that earlier today, and I have to question how ergonomic it is. It seems like it might almost be a step back to Genesis - not even SNES-quality, really. But I haven't seen the back or had the chance to hold it, so I'll wait before passing judgment.

[Raistlin]

TWO ANALOGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER NINTENDO IS TOTALLY RIPPING OFF SONY

[KentaRawr!]

I just looked at a video from IGN, and I must say, I am extremely impressed. :) I know I will need practice with the controller, but mark my words, I am going to get a Nintendo Wii as soon as I possibly can!! :cool:

[DeathKnight]

A new controller has been shown! It's official!



Source (http://www.nintendogal.com)

-Miyamoto comes out in a conductor's outfit and proceeds to use the Wii controller to conduct an orchestra in real time (sadly, he has no sense of timing it seems).
- Reggie comes out and talks then confirms a speaker in the Wii controller.
- A video is played that shows Wii games: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, A flight simulator, and the new WarioWare.
- Zelda is also shown during this video which shows off the Wii functionality: i.e. fishing as well as using the hookshot.
- Another video with games: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Dragon Quest Swords, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Fire Emblem, Sponge Bob Square Pants, Cars, Super Mario Galaxy, SD Gundam G Breaker, Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, Sengoku Action, Excite Truck, Elebits, Red Steel, Rayman 4, Pangya, Sonic, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., Finalfurlong Revolution, Madden, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, and Twilight Princess.
- Nintendo confirms they will launch Twilight Princess along with the Wii.
- Twilight Princess controls for the Wii explained as well as how the speaker in the controller will react when you use the bow (you'll hear the bow pull taut).
- Excite Truck is shown, you turn the Wii controller on its side to steer.
- Along with Excite Truck are 2 more new franchises, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. and Disaster: Day of Crisis.
- More Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles shown.
- 3rd party Wii games announced: Sonic, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles., Madden 07, Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam, Rayman 4, Spongebob Squarepants.
- Reggie states there are 27 Wii games on the show floor.
- No price or date will be announced at thist time.
- Ubisoft demoed their Red Steel Wii title.
- George Harrison comes out and gives us stats.
- DS games: Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, Pokemon (red/blue Dungeon)
- Phantom Hourglass is shown.
- 100 new games from now until the end of the year says Harrison.
- More games shown: Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Starfox DS, Diddy Kong Racing, Final Fantasy III, Yoshi 2, Elite Beat Agents (Ouendan), Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon, Diddy Kong Racing, Big Brain Academy, Mario vs. DK 2: March of the Minis.
- Iwata comes out and talks about being different in the market
- Iwata announces that the Wii will stay connected online even when you power it off: "Wii Connect 24"
- Winner of the AOL contest to be the first to play comes up and plays Tennis with Iwata, Miyamoto, and Reggie. The avatars for the three Nintendo guys are hilarious.
- Team Miyamoto (and the winner, Scott) wins.
- Reggie thanks everyone for coming.


So now Nintendo has 2 GREAT controllers..............man that looks SWEET! even better tha SONY's DualShock controllers.

*dies just imagining playing all those great SNES games*:D

[Tidus Andronicus]

I have to say, I'm VERY hyped about Zelda on the Wii... not only does the new controller work VERY well with the gameplay... but OMG the Speakers on the controller are going to totally OWN! XD

Imagine hearing the sound of a bow being pulled back in your hands, or the sword hitting its target, or even the sound of the arrow, as u let it go, wizzing from your hand to the screen... thats just going to be ...drooltastic! XD

Darn this reminds me... I need to go back to GameStop tomorrow, and check on my Zelda PreOrder... I need to make sure they give me the Wii version, not the gamecube version... XD

[DeathKnight]

I have to say, I'm VERY hyped about Zelda on the Wii... not only does the new controller work VERY well with the gameplay... but OMG the Speakers on the controller are going to totally OWN! XD

Imagine hearing the sound of a bow being pulled back in your hands, or the sword hitting its target, or even the sound of the arrow, as u let it go, wizzing from your hand to the screen... thats just going to be ...drooltastic! XD

Darn this reminds me... I need to go back to GameStop tomorrow, and check on my Zelda PreOrder... I need to make sure they give me the Wii version, not the gamecube version... XD


hehe you're awesome!

and yes the speakers on Wii's controllers are gonna kick major ass! take that SONY!:cool:

and not only that.........but the CLASSIC controller looks just as amazing! :love:

[Psychotic]

TWO ANALOGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER NINTENDO IS TOTALLY RIPPING OFF SONYHere are three words I never thought I would say to you, Raistlin, but here goes: I love you. :love:

[Shoden]

Nintendo must be sued for their poxy biased controller.

It's biased to people with midget hands! The PS3 controller will at least have space to hold the actual controller easily. I could probably fit that Wii controller in my hand.

I aint touching any gaming product with a name like wii. Not even with a 40ft pole with a prodder on the end. No way, it sounds as gay as the word gay itself.

[Agent Proto]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eQiJLokuUSQ&search=nintendo%20wii

[KentaRawr!]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eQiJLokuUSQ&search=nintendo%20wii

o.o I saw that on IGN yesterday. Here's the first one which is 16 seconds shorter but has a few more games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73yDRm8KaWY&search=Wii

[bipper]

TWO ANALOGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER NINTENDO IS TOTALLY RIPPING OFF SONY

only fair after sony ripped off nintendo's shoulder button design.

[Lakenbelle]

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6150205

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/Zapper-Prototype-Wii3.jpg


Today, in the Wii section of Nintendo's booth, a new, unannounced peripheral was shown off in a display case. Dubbed "The Zapper," the new addition to the Wii family is a casing that houses the Wii-mote and the analog joystick in a configuration that looks like a gun.

The purpose seems simple--instead of holding both attachments in one hand (the analog joystick controls movement and the Wii-mote controls aim), one hand can control both.

Old school gamers will recognize the Zapper name. In 1985, the Nintendo Entertainment System was sold with a light gun named the Zapper, which was used to shoot hapless ducks and snickering dogs in Duck Hunt.

[Raistlin]

TWO ANALOGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER NINTENDO IS TOTALLY RIPPING OFF SONY
only fair after sony ripped off nintendo's shoulder button design.
... *sigh*


Here are three words I never thought I would say to you, Raistlin, but here goes: I love you.:love:
<3

[KentaRawr!]

Nice gun attachment. However, it seems to be 2 handed, as the trigger appears to be the B Button on the Wiimote, which is a bit far from the Gun Handle.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Nintendo must be sued for their poxy biased controller.

It's biased to people with midget hands! The PS3 controller will at least have space to hold the actual controller easily. I could probably fit that Wii controller in my hand.

I aint touching any gaming product with a name like wii. Not even with a 40ft pole with a prodder on the end. No way, it sounds as gay as the word gay itself.
:twak:
That was for judging something by its name. oh and also for using 'gay' in that way...

Honestly, its not a great name, but dont let that stop you from at least trying it dude... You might actually like it, and learn to look past the name.... never know, the controller really might just click with u.


Nice gun attachment. However, it seems to be 2 handed, as the trigger appears to be the B Button on the Wiimote, which is a bit far from the Gun Handle.
Actually ^_^ look a little closer at the pic... see that hole in the side of the gun? thats got the trigger in it! Its setup that way, so you can use one hand, and have your thumb on the joystick while your finger is near the trigger. I'm sure it will feel better than it looks though. XD Then again, u might still want 2 hands on the gun, just so you can push the other buttons on the controller... not really sure how that will work btw xD

[KentaRawr!]

Actually ^_^ look a little closer at the pic... see that hole in the side of the gun? thats got the trigger in it! Its setup that way, so you can use one hand, and have your thumb on the joystick while your finger is near the trigger. I'm sure it will feel better than it looks though. XD Then again, u might still want 2 hands on the gun, just so you can push the other buttons on the controller... not really sure how that will work btw xD

*Rant removed due to sheer stupidity*

Oh... It's not a little black thing! It's actually a hole with a trigger in it! >_> Boy do I feel stupid.

[Tidus Andronicus]

hehe, I was just watching an interview with Reggie on G4... he loves the fan-given name Wiimote! XD

In an odd marketing move, Microsoft suggests people get their 360 as well as a Wii, rather than spending $600 on just 1 consoles (PS3).
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707831p1.html
XD hey, at least they are being nice about it for now... guess they want to help Nintendo to get bigger, to get rid of Sony? XD

BTW, anyone else catch the comment in the Nintendo press conference, "Ask anyone if they've seen a movie, or listened to music, and you'll never find someone that hasn't done those things... but ask anyone if they've ever played video games, and chances are you'll find a lot that say no. Nintendo hopes to change this with Wii!"

I sure hope that changes soon! Interactive entertainment deserves just as much mindset for people as movies and music do! But as Nintendo has talked about, its the barriers like the controller, and the difficulty that needs to be changed. Nintendo's Wiimote does offer a simpler way to play, while still giving a lot of advantages to the 'hardcore' group.
Well if Nintendo wants to gain more players, their 'inclusion' plan will do the trick, long as they make the right moves (as they seem to be doin).

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

.....the controllers not wireles?? ;_;


any idea when the wii b released?

[Tidus Andronicus]

o.O... who said the controller wasn't wireless? *missed that O_o*
Of course its wireless!
If they are basing that on the fact that they had wires at E3... then hah... that was just a security feature, And also so they didn't have to recharge the controllers durring the middle of the day... or something like that.
Don't worry, Nintendo's controllers are confirmed wireless. (except for the wire between the Wiimote and the nunchaku.:p)
Also, if they were referring to the vconsole controller, thats just wired to the Wiimote as well, nothing else.

Technically, the release date hasn't been announced yet. Nintendo could launch in October, in my opinion, since they've done that in the past.
But they could also be waiting for Sony's release date, to be 'set in stone', so they can plan their release date around Sony's. lol

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

k awesome..... and all the controllers will b bundled in one box right? would b annoying if it was sold seperatly

[Shoeberto]

I'd imagine that at least the nunchaku attachment will be bundled, since it's so heavily integrated in a lot of games.

There's been no official announcements, however. None that I've heard, at least - someone else can confirm if they'd like.

[Tidus Andronicus]

I'm pretty sure that they've said, yes the nunchaku would be included with the system in box...

But in the most recent interview with Perrin Kaplan, she said that Nintendo is still unsure what exactly they will give us right out of the box.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/708/708093/vids_1.html

[Ashley Schovitz]

Will this system finally be capable of playing DVDs?

[Tidus Andronicus]

Will this system finally be capable of playing DVDs?
Yes, but not exactly out of the box... its likely you'll have to buy a cheap usb dongle to plug into the back of the Wii... or just download a program off Nintendo's network service... or something.

Meh, with DVD players now like $30... its just not as important of a feature anymore.

[Fantasy Fan]

the new SSB is going to be so cool!

[Tidus Andronicus]

Playing = Believing (http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=1089278)
Very good post on the Nintendo forums. ^_~

[ljkkjlcm9]

Playing = Believing (http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=1089278)
Very good post on the Nintendo forums. ^_~
I thought that was good, but was kinda upset about this part


Peter Molyneux: Loves it.
Famous for: Black & White, Fable, Theme Park, The Movies
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=11002

"There is a line at the end of the book 'Game Over' and it is: 'Never underestimate Nintendo'"

because the quote is, "It would be a fatal mistake to underestimate Nintendo."

Yes I have the book, and it's quite good and informative actually.

THE JACKEL

[Tidus Andronicus]

Playing = Believing (http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=1089278)
Very good post on the Nintendo forums. ^_~
I thought that was good, but was kinda upset about this part


Peter Molyneux: Loves it.
Famous for: Black & White, Fable, Theme Park, The Movies
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=11002

"There is a line at the end of the book 'Game Over' and it is: 'Never underestimate Nintendo'"

because the quote is, "It would be a fatal mistake to underestimate Nintendo."

Yes I have the book, and it's quite good and informative actually.

THE JACKAL
hehe :rolleyes2
A friend of mine was really doubting how the motion detection would catch on... so I showed him that post, which basically shows how many devs Nintendo is attracting, and how much everyone that tries it, loves it. and he's much more, at ease now... lol
But of course, this probably wouldn't convince anyone against it all together... >_> still its nice to know people like it so much.

[ljkkjlcm9]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11628


Nintendo says Wii's price "will not exceed $250". The company plans to ship six million systems between fall and March 2007, along with seventeen million games.

Nintendo News: Nintendo Announces Wii Information, Worldwide Shipments

REDMOND, Wash., May 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Following its overwhelming debut at E3 2006, Nintendo today announced the current fiscal year unit shipment forecast for its new home game system, Wii(TM). Nintendo also confirmed that the price of the Wii system, which incorporates unique freehand control, will not exceed $250 in America, or 25,000 yen in Japan. The company plans to ship 6 million systems to retailers around the world between its launch in the fourth quarter of 2006 and the end of its fiscal year on March 31, 2007.

The projections are part of a full-year financial forecast that sees growth of 18 percent in sales globally, based on anticipated continuing strong demand for the Nintendo DS(TM) portable game system, as well as a successful launch for Wii.

The company also said it expects to sell 17 million Wii games in the period. Exact launch dates, identification of the launch library of titles and details on the unique Virtual Console aspect of Wii will be announced soon.

Daniel says: My guess is that Japan will get the system for 25,000 yen and the US will get it for $199.

David says: I believe that they are considering a package with two controllers and a pack-in game like Wii Sports. That would cost $249.99. The intention would be to make things simpler for non-gamers who would be wary of adding additional games and controllers. The alternative is to stick with a traditional bare-bones system with just one controller and no game for $199.99. I'm fairly certain they don't want two retail packages though, so they will have to choose one or the other.

Well, sounds great to me, especially if what David says is true for the 250 package...

THE JACKEL

[Agent Proto]

$249 for a Wii, two controllers, and Wii Sports? Sounds like a very good deal to me.

[Crossblades]

$249 for a Wii, two controllers, and Wii Sports? Sounds like a very good deal to me.

Correction. It's an awesome deal:)

[KentaRawr!]

Well well well... It's already sounding like a good price. I wonder if they are just waiting for the right time to announce it? Maybe they are saying it won't exceed $250 so that when they do announce the price, it will be cheaper, and we'll be all "OMGWOW!!!"

Of course, $250 is a good price to me. :rolleyes2 But I hope I get to actually use the controller before I buy it, just in case it actually stinks. :O

[Rase]

But I hope I get to actually use the controller before I buy it, just in case it actually stinks. :O

I was just thinking, it'll be interesting to watch people play the Wii at those demo stands in Target or wherever. But yeah, hopefully there will be ample opportunities to try out the controller, and if not, well, that's where friends who will buy it "no questions asked" come into play. :p

[NeoCracker]

The Wii seems to have the best launch titles of any system.

[KentaRawr!]

I wonder though... will the Wii offer a really exclusive experience? If developers just use the controller in ways that can be done already with normal controllers (Such as Excite Truck, using the remote as a Steering Wheel), the Wii might not have as much magic as we'd hoped. Of course, the controller itself really does offer a new experience. True, you could use an analog stick for excite truck, but a steering wheel really does offer a different experience. Or at least, I'd imagine it would.

I hope Target has demos. >_>

[Tidus Andronicus]

Found some interesting... leaks/rumors. Now remember they are just rumors at the moment.

Source:
http://www.2amupdate.com/readarticle.php?article_id=3


Wii Rumors Abound
These were originally on Nintendo's forums but were quickly deleted.

-First off let me say that the full scope of the Wii controller details has yet to be revealed by PixArt and Nintendo. Although I cannot elaborate any further let me say that the Nintendo should show that the movement in 3D space will allow experiences outside of just the TV screen. And its not 3D projection related.

-The official launch date has yet to be set in stone but will indeed launch before Sony’s PS3.

-Ironically enough, the first game that will be shown to the public that demonstrates the full scope of Wii controller potential will be Dragonball Z Budokai 4.

-When Nintendo first showed the controller at Tokyo Game Show late 2005 they were very hesitant to show it full usage. I will allow one more clue to my finding that the Wii controller can function exactly as we all have seen demonstrated WITHOUT the sensor bar. So ask yourselves, why need a sensor bar?

-The sensor bar was in all actuality in no use at E3 2006. What is will allow hasn’t been shown yet.

-According to people who are working close to everyday events at Nintendo R&D, Nintendo Wii specifications were far and away developed solely for that machine.

-IBM and ATI have been working on Broadway and Hollywood for quite some time now. And according to many people Wii’s specs could go up or down at this point in the CPU/VPU departments. Apparently Nintendo has spent quite a lot of money having IBM and ATI fabricate many iterations of Broadway and Hollywood. Which range from a 3.4GHz-730MHz Broadway CPUs, and 1.2GHz-553MHz custom ATI/Nintendo Hollywood VPU. From what we hear Hollywood is key to the Wii’s power. The architecture is all about eliminating bottlenecks and maximizing performance, upgrade of the CPU with the slight downgrade of the graphics processor compliments this philosophy, striking a great balance for Wii. However, it was also indicated that since Hollywood is a truly extreme “Flipper II” and Broadway is a massively upgraded “Gekko II” at least in architecture. That early on Nintendo R&D took a good look at what GameCube did good and what it could have done better. It was mentioned that GameCube’s Flipper was an extremely powerful chip far more capable than even the Xbox’s. The Gekko design meant for balance, though was not able to support but about 50% of the ArtX’s Flipper’s power. This particular bottleneck has been ironed out allowing Broadway to fully complement Hollywood to its maximum potential and vise-versa. The initial estimates we got concerning final hardware spec was Broadway at around 1.5GHz and Hollywood at 555MHz.

-There is also word that Nintendo in private sessions has big plans for the Wii headset. Talk is, that Nintendo wants to lean away from having the headset only for online capability. They are wanting to go further. Having the headset of course include a microphone for use in games is a given. But there was also talk of a late to launch release of this “gyroscopic headset” that would be supported by the sensor bar as well. To sum up the theory we were privy to. The headset would be somewhat sensitive to movement that could be translated into the game. Such as if you get up and move to the right of your television something might correspond for that in the game. Such as dodging things, looking around corners etc. It was also mentioned that it might have a unique look and non-obstructive lightweight design.

-Our latest discovery concerning Wii software is that developer Nibris (Raid Over the River, Sadness) has received Wii development kits and has partnered with publisher Majesco.

[JKTrix]

Wow, I wonder how real this will turn out to be. Ubisoft has already hinted (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=88789) that Red Steel's multiplayer won't be taking place 'only on the screen', and I've seen the DBZ game demonstrated in images by the developer. Exciting stuff

[Dreddz]

Oh lordy, the PS3 is coming out last, not good....

[KentaRawr!]

There are a bunch of rumors on the Wii Release date. The biggest one right now being October 2nd, due to Nintendo saying that the release date might be encoded into their announcement of games coming out for their systems. Here's an article about it:

http://www.wii-play.com/nintendo_wii_news_view.asp?news_item=52

Nintendo updated their release list for the fourth quarter of this year. The list is ruled by DS games with only 1 GBA game and 1 GC game being released this year.

Fourth Quarter Release List:

Oct. 9: Clubhouse Games (DS)
Oct. 16: Nintendogs: Dalmatian & Friends (DS)
Oct. 23: Magical Starsign (DS)
Oct. 30: Pokémon Ranger (DS)
Oct. 30: Children of Mana (DS)
Nov. 6: Elite Beat Agents (DS)
Nov. 6: Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA)
Nov. 13: Yoshi's Island 2 (DS)
Dec. 4: Custom Robo Arena (DS)
Dec. 4: Kirby: Squeak Squad (DS)

Note: The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC) Will Be Released On The Same Date As The Wii In The Fourth Quarter Of This Year.

Nintendo did include this line at the end of their announcement:
"Perhaps the secret to the launch information for Wii is somehow encoded in the text of this news item."

Gaming Target Writes:
"The fourth quarter begins on October 1. Now look at the list. At least one game is released every Monday in the fourth quarter except for the following dates: October 2, November 20 and November 27.

November 27 is after Black Frida, so it's out of the possibilities. November 20 is after the launch of the PS3, so that's out, too. That leaves us with October 2. "

So Will The Wii Be Released On October 2nd? The release date seems to be too early according to some people, but since the wii is already in production, it is possible that Nintendo plans to get a headstart on the PS3.

We Can Hope To Find Out Soon...

[jj984jj]

Most of those 2amupdate rumors are hard to believe.

[kawakami Gensai]

Anyone know of a set us release date on the wii?

[Samuraid]

Fourth quarter 2006 is about the best anyone can say right now. (unless I'm completely in the dark on this one)

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Nintendo is expected to announce the release date during this year's Tokyo Game Show, which is being held on September 22 through the twenty-fourth.

[Yamaneko]

A few weeks ago on the 1up Yours podcast, Shane Bettenhausen of EGM speculated that Nintendo would announce and soft launch (meaning two or three first party games) the Wii in Japan the week of TGS. Imagine that.

[Rostum]

$249 for a Wii, two controllers, and Wii Sports? Sounds like a very good deal to me.

And if you put a $50AUD deposit on it now (in Australia), you get a free launch title (as well as the Wii Sports. :)

[JKTrix]

Keep an eye out for news from the Liepzig conference next week (Aug 23rd) as well. Nintendo will be there and making a speech entitled "Wii prove our promise". Apparently they won't be at TGS. Which sucks for me, cuz I was looking forward to seeing it happen while I'm there.

Also, more rumours on possible functionality in the Wii (though this one is somewhat substantiated)
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/15/wii-rumor-voice-to-text-chat/
Nintendo has a patent for Voice-To-Text technology to be used for video games. Full details can be found at the patent site (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=nintendo.AS.&s2=voice.TTL.&OS=AN/nintendo+AND+TTL/voice&RS=AN/nintendo+AND+TTL/voice). Nintendo hasn't announced where this will be used, but it's still possible.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Waiting for the 23rd is killin me with anticipation... only 24 hours left!! XD

I really hope hey announce something worthwhile... not only good for them, but also good for the Leipzig Games Convention, might put them more on the map. Hey we need all the GCs we can get now that E3 is going to be shrunk...

I just hope for anything more than "Blue Ocean" strategy descussions... thats getting old, and I want new information!
I want a release date/price... thats all... Here's to hoping! *hyper all day till tomorrow... and probably let down... =/*

Heh, I'm also looking forward to any tidbits of info surrounding Twilight Princess... I can't wait to play with that new controller, especially if we can swing it like the Master Sword! Hope its fun anyway, and not tiring... lol

[JKTrix]

Meh... turns out there wasn't much that was announced at the Liepzig Games Conference.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153065

They announced Mario Strikers Charged and Battallion Wars 2 (BWii?) for the Wii. Perhaps more will be known as the convention goes on, but the speech is done.

[Tidus Andronicus]

Meh... turns out there wasn't much that was announced at the Liepzig Games Conference.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153065

They announced Mario Strikers Charged and Battallion Wars 2 (BWii?) for the Wii. Perhaps more will be known as the convention goes on, but the speech is done.

Yah that turned out to be a little disapointing...but oh well... We'll get a launch date soon enough anyway.

[JKTrix]

Battalion Wars 2 Hands-On report from 1up.com

http://38.99.15.82/do/previewPage?cId=3153075

It's sounding pretty good. They mention that the Jumping (flick the nunchuk up) didn't seem so hot, but I don't recall many areas in the previous game where you needed to jump anyway. Tactical Unit control seems "fantastic", and there is online multiplayer.

BWii is now added to my 'Wii Get' list.

[Cid]

*unsticks*

[fantasyjunkie]

Well, let's take it from my perspective, being a married man with a wife and kid to take care which results in limited finances. PS3=$600. That's $600 before taxes too, and no game. The Wii with 2 controllers and possiby a game=$250. And I am part of a LOT of gamers in the same boat.
It's not a matter of which is best but what I am able to get with my money.

[KentaRawr!]

Why was the glue removed from the thread? o_o

[Samuraid]

Equal topic opportunity. :D

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

tht xbox live thing needs to be unsticked

[Roto13]

tht xbox live thing needs to be unsticked

Why?

[Sylvie]

tht xbox live thing needs to be unsticked

Why?

...Yeah. >_> Why?

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

same reason why this was unsticked

[JKTrix]

It's a different kind of topic. This topic (and the PS3 topic) was originally made to announce the new system, and is over a year old.
The Xbox Live Gamertag topic is just like the Nintendo Wifi Friend Code topic: Put your online ID in there and people from EoFF will add you. That's a lot more sticky-worthy than this is.

[Cid]

tht xbox live thing needs to be unsticked

I'll tell ya what bud. I'll unstick the xbox one in 15 months, just like I did with this one.

P.S. I may have created the xbox 360 gamertag one, but I didn't sticky it. I didn't sticky this one either. I hate sticky threads.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

what about the chess tournament :p

[~SapphireStar~]

I was meant to be getting one with my ex and spend Christmas in our apartment playing it. But I wont be able to afford one on my own, but his new flat mate will most probably chip in and help my ex get one for them both to play on.

[JKTrix]

Not important enough to have its own topic, cuz it's 99% fake. Still fun to think about, and see if any of this is actually true once the console launches.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/27/big-wii-news-truth-in-trash-or-elaborate-hoax/

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Go Nintendo sure is rife with rumors this weekend. The latest fakery involves a speech transcript allegedly intended for use by Reggie Fils-Aime at the big Nintendo event to be held in NYC on September 14.

Here are a few of the Wii fantasies embedded in the document:
Hint at possible Apple partnership
$175 U.S. price
Launch date of Oct. 2
1.5 million units shipped to U.S.; 1.5 million units shipped to Japan; 1 million units shipped to Europe
Wii package includes: Black or white Wii console; one Wii remote; one nun chuck device; one classic controller; copy of Wii Sports; built-in WiiConnect24 service; voucher for 1,000 coins for Virtual Console; built-in Web browser; remake of Duck Hunt; 512MB SD card.
21 launch titles
New Kid Icarus game for Wii


Free ice cream
One unicorn

[Yamaneko]

All I'm hoping for is a $199 pricetag.

Btw, I stuck the Live Gamertag thread since having it on top will give people an easy way of finding out other people's gamertags. The same goes for the DS friend's code and I'll make sure to stick whatever Sony plans on doing for gamertags on their network. This thread is merely discussion about an upcoming console. It has no real point in being stickied.

[KentaRawr!]

Apple Partnership? Reminds me of the fake commercial AOTS made, and before showing it they said that Nintendo teamed up with Apple. :shifty: