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Sephex
05-19-2005, 08:44 AM
I just got back from the movie. It was amazing. This is the best of the prequels, without a doubt. This movie carries so much emotion in it. Pretty much everything was done right. The only problem I found in it was that some lines in love scenes were still cheesy, but not NEARLY as bad as Episode II was. Plus, the scenes were kept short.

Hayden really let loose in the role this time. This is the angry Anakin Skywalker I always envisioned ever since I saw the Original Trilogy!

All the fight scenes were amazing. I was worried that the action would be TOO intence, and the movie would come off as a lame looking action movie with a Star Wars twist, but everything was paced perfectly. I could watch Obi-Wan v.s. Anakin any day.

Overall, I had a great time watching the film. It was well worth the wait.

nik0tine
05-19-2005, 08:55 AM
Im going to see it with my sister tommorow. She thinks Anakin is hot and Im a nerd, so we both win. I can't wait!

The Captain
05-19-2005, 09:11 AM
I read a review of the film in the New Yorker magazine that compared this film to the two previous films as "dying of natural causes as opposed to crucifixion", which was, for lack of a better word, an interesting criticism.

I'll wait until a lot of lines and buzz dies down. I am interested in seeing it, but it's not something that I must at all costs do.

Take care all.

Armisael
05-19-2005, 10:31 AM
I'm going to see it tommorow with my boyfriend..From the trailers i've seen it seems great!^_^

p.s I like this scar at Anakin's eye!

Nakor TheBlue Rider
05-19-2005, 11:01 AM
I just Came back from the movie. It was exactly what i expected.

I like seeing Anikan all Evil.

Sith > Jedi Anyday.

I wished there was more Padme though, she was one of my Favorite Chars in Episode II

Leene
05-19-2005, 11:04 AM
:save: I am going to see it on Sunday...I can not wait seeing it.I have seen all Star Wars episodes and i think that Episode III is going to be the best ;) ! :save:

Chris
05-19-2005, 11:07 AM
I'm going to see it tomorrow, I just can't wait. :D

Shlup
05-19-2005, 12:00 PM
It was traumatically good. I fought tears through literally most of the movie. I don't think I'll ever be able to look at Vader without tearing up again. When we get in bed BJ and I are going to watch the last couple scenes of Episode VI just to dull the depression this movie has generated.

I can't believe Lucas would make Episode I and II the way he did when he had the capability to go as far with them as he did with III. At the risk of overhyping the movie... Ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy!

TheAbominatrix
05-19-2005, 12:00 PM
It was indeed the best of the prequels.

The bad:
-Natalie Portman is just wooden. Seriously. She doesnt emote at all.
-The love scenes are just as forced as before, and with the corniest dialogue imaginable
-Hayden has improved, but not much.
-Some serious LAME stuff. Just corny and dumb.

The Good:
-Beautiful, as always
-Obi-Wan! He's so awesome and he did really well
-The fight scenes, as always.
-The ending scenes, with the twins.
-Watching it with crazed Star Wars fans after two days of partying! <3

Shlup
05-19-2005, 12:02 PM
I'm gonna take your "The bad" and punch you in the face, Ashley!

TheAbominatrix
05-19-2005, 12:12 PM
Oh come ON. She spoke like she was bored when she was having the big scene with Anakin. And the love scenes... again, she just talks like she's a robot "Hold me. Hold me like when we were on Naboo and blah blah blah." CORNY. There was some seriously awesome stuff, but some things, particularily the love things, were corny.

Oh, and to add to the good:
-CHEWBACCA

Shlup
05-19-2005, 12:27 PM
I'm going to get you drunk and then extract and sell your kidney.

P.S. BJ and I just watched the last 15 chapters of Episode VI so I feel better now. :D

Kossage
05-19-2005, 01:01 PM
The movie is the best Prequel Trilogy movie, and it was a positive surprise. Johnny Williams's score was good as always, and all those cues were just wonderful. Force theme was used a lot, and many other familiar themes could be heard from all the five previous Star Wars movies (not to mention two bigger themes for this movie: Battle of the Heroes and Grievous's theme). It isn't as good as the Empire Strikes Back, but it was still an enjoyable movie.

*SPOILER WARNING*

The beginning with the Force theme playing and those great visuals was just fantastic, and later on the movie just became even more intense. Some battles were too short, unfortunately. I would've wanted the Grievous battle and Dooku battle take a little while longer, but they were defeated quite quickly. Oh well. A positive surprise was the Mace vs. Palpy battle, and the final battles between Obi and Ani and Palpy and Yoda were just marvellous. My dreams came true when I heard both Imperial March and Duel of the Fates during the two final duels (Ani vs. Obi and Palpy vs. Yoda), not to mention the fantastic Battle of the Heroes playing there as well.

The Jedi massacre scene (when the clone troopers kill both the Jedi in the temple and in other worlds) was very emotional and had that beautiful choral "Anakin's Betrayal" playing there. The scene when Obi-Wan tells Padmé that he has to go and kill Anakin was very heartbreaking with the latter part of "Anakin's Dark Deeds" playing, and "The Immolation Scene" was a perfect piece of music for the scene when Anakin is burning and shouts "I hate you!" to Obi-Wan after their duel.

Grievous was a nice villain although an underdeveloped one, but he made his presence known, and I liked that coughing. I was expecting his MagnaGuards (the ones with those staffs that could block lightsabres) to be more dangerous, but they were okayish nevertheless. Palpatine was just horrible in this movie, which meant Ian McDiarmid did his job well in portraying the evil Sith Lord. Anakin using Force to choke Padmé was an interesting scene, not to mention that clever idea of showing Vader on the operating table and at the same time showing Padmé giving birth to the twins. I didn't actually expect to hear the Naboo funeral theme when Vader finds out that he was responsible for Padmé's death, but that just made the scene even more emotional. And it was nice to hear James Earl Jones for that short amount of time.

Hayden Christensen actually acted better than in Attack of the Clones, at least in my opinion. Natalie Portman did a good job too, although at times she was too wooden, but for some reason Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan didn't act as emotionally as he should've in some of the scenes. For example, the scene where he finds out that Anakin was behind the Jedi temple massacre should've been a shocker, but he just had that dull expression on his face. I would've expected him to collapse or do something dramatic than just stand there, not knowing what to do. He was emotional enough during the immolation scene, though, so that was nice. Plus there are very few scenes where we see Jar Jar, and we see Lucas in a cameo role, so that's nice.

The ending was pretty much what I expected to be, and that final scene with the Binary Sunset (and Force theme playing) was a nice way of ending the Star Wars saga in a hopeful note just as in ESB, even though RotS is a very dark movie. Two scenes were missing, and I would've wanted to see them: one with Mon Mothma (the woman leading the Rebellion in Return of the Jedi) and about her not liking Palpy, and the other one was Yoda talking to Qui-Gon (it was only hinted at this movie, but I think they did film the conversation scene and might have it in the deleted scenes in RotS video and DVD).It was nice to see younger Tarkin and the construction site of the Death Star, though.

*SPOILERS END*

All in all, Revenge of the Sith is a good movie in my opinion and the best Prequel Trilogy movie, although it doesn't stand a chance against Empire Strikes Back. RotS has a great score, wonderful and memorable scenes, tragedy and darkness all around, and nice special effects. It's a good bridge between the gap that separates Episode 3 and Episode 4, and it does its job well. I enjoyed watching this movie, and it's a nice farewell to the Star Wars saga story-wise, visually and musically.

tailz
05-19-2005, 01:43 PM
im going to see it tomorow (probably allone :( ) but hey its gonna be great anyways :D

Ouch!
05-19-2005, 06:55 PM
I think I like the movie as much as I did because of the experience of going and seeing the midnight showing. It was quite amusing at school both Wednesday and today, I was surprised how many people actually dressed up in their Jedi costumes for school.

The movie was amazing. There was barely ever a dull moment, it kept moving at all times. The love scenes did seem a little forced, but that's nothing new. I do disagree with just about anyone who says the acting sucks. It's not their acting that sucks, it was that the script was so horrible. There were too many one liners and to get a point across there was always an over-exaggeration of emotion or lack thereof.

Anakin's motives for turning to the dark side were very well done. I was half expecting it to just sort of happen without the gradual fall, like in Episode II where he flips and kills all the sand people.

I think the ending was very well done. It tied up a lot of lose ends, even down to some minute details, like C-3PO getting a memory wipe which would explain why he didn't remember Obi-Wan in Episode IV yet R2 did.

It's worth another viewing this weekend. My old man wants me to join him and I will most definitely do so.

Now I just need to find a nice place to keep this ticket stub.

SeeDRankLou
05-19-2005, 08:35 PM
I saw it at midnight last night, it was freakin brilliant. Don't let the first two movies sway you from seeing this one. This movie has what the other two movies were lacking, decent acting. Sci-Fi/Action movies don't need breathtaking oscar-worthy acting or anything, but they need something, and the first two movies were just lacking. I thought Hayden gave a wonderful acting performance with about 80% of his screentime, which was plenty for me. Ewan did excellent as well. I thought Natalie gave a rather good acting performance, she could have done MUCH better, but I thought her character called for some properness and subtely and the like (it seems Ashley and I will never agree on these sorts of things :tongue: ). It's just that Natalie gave such an awesome performance in Closer, I guess I was just expecting more out of her because I know she can act. The story of Anikan becoming Vader is truely tragic and heartbreaking, I never expected it to be like that, changed my perspective of the whole saga entirely. They had more Yoda, which I loved. I wish I could have heard more of his lines (the audience was cheering loudly during some of his lines), but I'll probably go see it again, so it's ok. The graphics were awesome, all but one of the lightsaber battles were outstanding, and the one with senator palpatine vs. the four jedi was...eh, alright. I actually cried during this movie, something I never thought I would do with a Star Wars movie. I would recommend everyone see this movie, if not for just the last lightsaber battles.

Samuraid
05-19-2005, 08:48 PM
The only problem I found in it was that some lines in love scenes were still cheesy, but not NEARLY as bad as Episode II was.

Yes. There were a few other issues with dialog and character development, but overall the movie was much better than the previous 2 episodes.

Storm
05-19-2005, 11:23 PM
I saw ROTS last night at midnight as well. It was a surprisingly great movie. I was entertained right from the beginning to the end. I nearly creamed my pants at the beginning when the camera scrolled from the ROTS yellow text to an overhead view of a passing Star Destroyer. So good....

Hayden Christianson's acting was WAY better. I actually could have cared less if he put on the Darth Vader costume because he played an evil sith to perfection.

My only complaint was that Palpatine overacted a little bit. Aside from that, it may be my second favorite of all 6 movies, behind The Empire Strikes Back.

Pauten
05-19-2005, 11:47 PM
I just got home from seeing it and it was amazing.
Far superior to the other prequels!

For those who have seen it...Yoda...so cool!

General Grevious was a little disapointing though.

Anakin's fall into the dark side is one that is filled with emotion. The final exchange of words between Obi-Wan and Anakin had me choked up.

Oh and go Chewy! :D

My faith in George Lucas has been revived.
9/10

TheAbominatrix
05-19-2005, 11:51 PM
I do agree that Natalie Portman is a good actress, but she's an actress that needs proper direction, which no one received in the prequels. She's a good actress, but she isnt a maverick like, say, Johnny Depp, who salvaged a bad script and horrible direction in Pirates of the Caribbean. Portman is good, but in Star Wars she seemed bored. I didnt feel it at all.

Destai
05-19-2005, 11:58 PM
Im not a fan of the series at all but Im very happy to hear the fans enjoyed the last movie so much.

kikimm
05-20-2005, 12:17 AM
Ooo, yay. I haven't seen it yet, but now I'm really excited. It's good to hear that everybody's liked it. :)

But I seem to be the only one who thoroughly ENJOYED the first two movies. Ah, well, I've always been weird.


:D

Lich3636
05-20-2005, 02:07 AM
this movie was great except for how grievous died. he was compleatly unstopable in the clone wars cartoons but in the movie he went down fairly easy

Sunny Rabbiera
05-20-2005, 06:00 AM
well I can tell this is going to be worth it already, the critics are iffy but the fan response is incredible.
still I am going to wait it out for a week or two, as I know the crowds are going to be monsterous.

Raven Nox
05-20-2005, 06:09 AM
In my city, it wasn't nearly as packed as we thought it was gonna be. Which is good. I saw one, only one, cosplayers, and I thought I wouldn't see any because of my area, so that made my day, I wanna to see someone is a costume so bad for some reason. I really liked it movie, when Obi-Wan and Anakin started fighing, I wanted to cry for some reason, that whole scence got to me. I really didn't think I'd like it as much as I did, I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but this movie really got me into it, and I might just watch the old ones again.

TheAbominatrix
05-20-2005, 06:19 AM
My friend had a gorgeous silk replica of the rainbow gown Padme wears in episode II. Once the photos are uploaded, I'll share with you guys. I got pictures with Palpatine, Padme, Vader (who killed me!) and Anakin. Not a lot of cosplayers (there was a Greivous as well, and that's all) but it was fun.

nik0tine
05-20-2005, 07:54 AM
This movie was great. The only problem I had with it was that there was too much story compacted into too little time. I felt like the movie could have gone on for another hour at least, to tie up the story better. It seemed unfinished, because they couldn't focus on some of the major elements of the story as long as they should have because the movie would have been a bajizillion hours long. It left room for another movie though, I thought.

TheAbominatrix
05-20-2005, 07:54 AM
Pick up the book, there's a lot of story to be had from it. Too much for a movie.

nik0tine
05-20-2005, 07:58 AM
Book? There's a book? I had no idea...

Shlup
05-20-2005, 07:59 AM
There's always a book.

TheAbominatrix
05-20-2005, 08:01 AM
There've been novels for all of them, not to mention all the extra books that go beyond the movies.

nik0tine
05-20-2005, 08:01 AM
There's always a book.

That is all too true...

Shlup
05-20-2005, 08:02 AM
I want to read the books... but I want them to end differently than Episode III. DON'T GO TO THE DARK SIDE, ANAKIN! PADME WILL BE OKAY! JUST GO AWAY TOGETHER AND LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND!

OH GOD! :weep:

nik0tine
05-20-2005, 08:11 AM
What was so great about Episode three was that it kept you in a state of constant suspense. You knew what was going to happen, and watching it happen was almost painful. You knew what all of the decisions were going to lead to, and you (or at least I) was pleading in my head for them to do something different.

TheAbominatrix
05-20-2005, 08:13 AM
Same here. There were times when it seemed like things WERE going to change. Like things would turn out differently. Even though I know it wouldnt, I still felt like the possibility was there.

I've never been a huge fan of Anakin and Padme as a couple, though. I think he's way too obsessive personally, so I didnt mind that ending. Though it was sad what happened to her.

Shlup
05-20-2005, 08:14 AM
Well, yeah, I knew what these decisions would lead to. But after seeing all the other movies I didn't think the characters could possibly get so deep and emotional. I couldn't imagine Anakin's choices to be so meaningful and tragic.

And, lets face it, I'm a sucker. It's just my nature to be sucked in by all that hullabaloo.

TheAbominatrix
05-20-2005, 08:19 AM
xD You're just a hopeless romantic.

I was really happy to see the conflict in him throughout the film. I'd just assumed, given his angst in II, that he'd be quick to turn. But knowing how and why was really amazing.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
05-20-2005, 08:27 AM
I liked the fighting in this one better, and the whole Dark mood.

But personally... episode II was almost tied for me because of how much more Padme was involved in it. This movie didnt have nearly enough Padme.

And episode I... i hate that movie... i wont ever watch it again... once was enough...

Shlup
05-20-2005, 08:33 AM
xD You're just a hopeless romantic.
:skull3:

louby_4eva
05-20-2005, 06:29 PM
I loved it, it was so great. I nearly cried when Obi-Wan's talking to Anakin at the end. Awwww, it made me look at Darth Vader in a whole new light. Fantastic film, everyone should go and see it.

Smile and Be happy :love:

Rainecloud
05-20-2005, 07:59 PM
Anakin's charred face and body disgusted and repulsed me.

:(

Sepho
05-20-2005, 09:01 PM
It was wonderful :)

I saw it yesterday, and to say what I liked about it would just be reiterating the points already established by fans in this thread. So, I'll just say that it was wonderful.

aeris2001x2
05-20-2005, 10:05 PM
it was good and bad i suppose.

I thought the acting mostly sucked again, as did george lucas direction.

The fights were ok, but the cgi sucked...i could not help thinking (if only it was an anime).

The super hyped final climatic fight was disappointing.

The film seemed forced, like it was just going through the motions.

The dialogue varied from beautiful (sidious mostly) to horrid.


But dispite all this, i really enjoyed the film. As i expected little, i was greatly surprised.My vision was much darker and grander. maybe it was rushed but it was a good film. I wish it would have let Anakin mature alot more though...this Anakin and the one of the original trilogy are so different from each other. i Find it hard to emphasise with his fall because of Haydens awful acting and his poorly developed character.

ok i,ll stop bitching. i guess i,m just saying that it had the potential to be one of the most amaxing films ever, and it failed. but it did repent 4 ep 1 and 2 (jar jar does not say ANYTHING :cool: )

Nephiliam
05-20-2005, 10:24 PM
I saw it yesterday. I loved it, all of it. I hadn't spoiled it for me so everything was new for me. I think I might go see it again soon. :D

It was amazing.

Chris
05-20-2005, 11:15 PM
*SPOILERS AHEAD*
















I just got back from the movies and let me just tell you, I was at awe.The movie was beyond words, the visuals, the story and the amazing battles scenes. The battle between Master Yoda and Palpatine was magnificent, equally matched was the two warriors, Palpatine did NOT kick Yoda's ass some have said (Yoda certainly managed to give Palpatine a good beating or two, even though he eventually failed to kill him). Obi Wan won the battle between him an Anakin Skywalker, but we all know who had the last say in that conflict. The acting was not as bad as some have said, but the love connection between Anaking and Padmé simply wasn't there; not believable in the least. Natalie Portman did a good job, it was her quirky lines ultimately failed her (the same happens to Hayden Christensen). R2-D2 kicked some serious droid ass... HA! He's a tough little fella, a bad motha to say the least. Great ending, the connection the old moves were beyond words, and when Padmé named her two children: Leia and Luke... I must admit, I got the shivers. I was also nice to see Chewbacca. All in all: Star Wars III is the best movie of the prequels, and has a good running chance to pick up the title of movie of the year.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-21-2005, 01:41 AM
This movie was awesome....just amazing, quite emotional...every backed up yoda, the fight scenes were awesome and the acting wasnt....too bad, i saw the midnight session of it and to think that such a movie could get me worked up abit...its very well done!!
Its actually good that once in a while....the bad guys can actually win!

The only complaint was the bit near to the end was when Vader was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" people were laughin abit...

But over all this movie was very very good!

i might see that and 4 5 and 6 again...

What a great way to end an era

TheAbominatrix
05-21-2005, 01:49 AM
I definitly laughed when Vader screamed that. It was so cheesy. I think that scene would have been better if he just yelled.

Shlup
05-21-2005, 01:54 AM
I'm glad they made that part too cheesy not to laugh 'cause I was SO FREAKING SAD.

Excelsior
05-21-2005, 04:20 AM
i just got back from it, and not only was it my favorite Star Wars movie (including the originals), it also made it up into my Top 5 movies list. although, dont trust my opinion, because im probably the only person that hated The Empire Strikes Back with a passion. :D

TheAbominatrix
05-21-2005, 04:32 AM
i just got back from it, and not only was it my favorite Star Wars movie (including the originals), it also made it up into my Top 5 movies list. although, dont trust my opinion, because im probably the only person that hated The Empire Strikes Back with a passion. :D

You hated Empire? You fiend! *banishes*

xD

aeris2001x2
05-21-2005, 04:38 AM
am i the only one who thought it was an average film?

Excelsior
05-21-2005, 04:40 AM
You hated Empire? You fiend! *banishes*

yeah man, that movie was frickin boring. "OOO LOOK THEY ARE GETTING CHAESD BY TEH BOBA FETT EXCITING!!11!111" and plus, when i saw it, i already knew he was his father, so that didnt do anything for me. in fact, i dont think ive ever watched episode 5 without nodding off because of the boring-ness.



am i the only one who thought it was an average film?

yes.

Shlup
05-21-2005, 04:52 AM
The original trilogy is just not up to todays standards. There's a ton of potential lost in it, which makes all of those movies a bit dull.

aeris2001x2
05-21-2005, 05:01 AM
i dispute that with vigiour. They are some of the greatest films ever made imho, Despite them being rooted in hollywood pretensiousness and melodrama,two things i despise about most modern western cinema.

Return of the Jedi imho is possibly the greatest film western cinema has ever created.

I dont know, maybe i,m still too entrenched in nerdiness.

Shlup
05-21-2005, 05:02 AM
Probably.

aeris2001x2
05-21-2005, 05:42 AM
actually, Apocalypse now, Eternal Sunshine of the spotless Mind, Return of the King, Kill Bill 2, Shawnshank Redemption....they run the star wars trilogy close.

The Shoeless Hobo
05-21-2005, 06:33 AM
At the end, one of the characters mentions something about Qui-Gon Jim (sp?) to Obi-Won. What was it?

Sepho
05-21-2005, 06:48 AM
Yoda was talking about teaching Obi-Wan how to contact the consciousness of Qui-Gon using the Force, much like how Obi-Wan converses with Luke, after he dies, several times during the original trilogy.

TheAbominatrix
05-21-2005, 06:52 AM
Qui-Gon learned how to become One with the Force, and teaches it to Yoda and Obi-Wan, that's why their bodies disappear when they die, and why they can appear to Luke.

Lone Wolf Leonhart
05-21-2005, 02:51 PM
I own this movie

tailz
05-21-2005, 06:19 PM
omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg

it was b-e-a-utifull

only i think anakins transformation to the dark side went to fast

anakin how dare you slay the little ones

Seto Fett
05-21-2005, 06:28 PM
I don't why so many people depise that. You don't even actually see it. Oh well, I wished they would of showed it...

Croyles
05-21-2005, 06:47 PM
I never really liked star wars, but as i always do, ill go to see it anyway.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
05-21-2005, 11:01 PM
i cried..............i hate plan 66............i wanna c it again..........the movie was too short tho........y did general grevous cough so many time??? is he sick???????

TasteyPies
05-22-2005, 03:32 AM
Despite my stances on homosexuality...

I'M GOING TO MARRY GEORGE LUCAS!!!!

XxSephirothxX
05-22-2005, 03:50 AM
I saw the movie last night. To quote Kevin Smith, ""Revenge of the Sith" is, quite simply, fucking awesome. "Sith" doesn't happen; "Sith" rules."

The battles were amazing, the journey was emotional, and everything was good enough to make me overlook a few flaws in acting and dialogue. And though I absolutely loved the film, I also found it extremely depressing. Maybe that's what made it so great.

radyk05
05-22-2005, 05:57 AM
now i know that episode V is the best, ep ii is the worst and ep iii is almost as bad.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 06:04 AM
now i know that episode V is the best, ep ii is the worst and ep iii is almost as bad.
How do you look at yourself in the mirror? HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF?

Excelsior
05-22-2005, 06:25 AM
i used to just think episode 5 was ok, but after seeing that movie, i decided that:

episode 1: pretty good (qui gon jinn is my favorite character)

episode 2: ok (the acting was bad, but it was funny bad, plus there were cool action scenes)

episode 3: OMG TEH FRICKIN AWESOMEEST MOVIE EVAR!!1! (no need for explanation)

episode 4: pretty good. (im to lazy to write something for this)

episode 5: TOTALLY SUCKED ASS!! (this movie was soooo boring, the biggest snorefest ive ever seen.)

episode 6: pretty damn awesome (i dunno, its my second favorite now.)

Shlup
05-22-2005, 06:45 AM
I'm almost going to have to agree with Excelsior, except I think V is still pretty good, and I makes me stabby with rage. Mostly 'cause of kid Anakin like wow bugs me.

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 06:51 AM
I still think the original trilogy is worlds better. My order; V, VI, III, IV, II, I.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 06:54 AM
That's because you're a nostalgic retard and think everything older is better. *punch*

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 07:06 AM
I do not! I didnt like I as much because of that stupid little kid, though Qui-Gon is indeed awesome, and II is lower because of that forced and stupid love story. You're just a romance-freak!

radyk05
05-22-2005, 07:12 AM
did i write ep ii is the worst? i ment ep i

Excelsior
05-22-2005, 07:29 AM
yeah, episode 1 wasnt that great, but i still pretty much loved it just for qui-gon. or i should say, qui-gon and obi-wan together. there probably one of my favorite duo teams of all time, and i really like remembering when i was little reading all those jedi apprentice books about qui-gon and obi-wan. but yeah, other then them (and the fricking awesome lightsaber fight at the end) that movie wasnt that good.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 07:38 AM
You're just a romance-freak!
It was a grrrrreat love story! :skull3:

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 07:41 AM
You're just a romance-freak!
It was a grrrrreat love story! :skull3:

*stab*

The Shoeless Hobo
05-22-2005, 07:52 AM
Qui-Gon learned how to become One with the Force, and teaches it to Yoda and Obi-Wan, that's why their bodies disappear when they die, and why they can appear to Luke.

The how come Qui-Gon Jim's body didn't dissapear when he died? He was burnt...

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 08:00 AM
He didnt learn until after his death.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 08:06 AM
'Cause he was a rebel. Go Qui-Gon Jin! Stick it to that Jedi counsil!

Excelsior
05-22-2005, 08:06 AM
but what about anakin? not only did his body not disappear, but when did obi-wan or yoda ever have time to teach him how to become a ghost?

Shlup
05-22-2005, 08:10 AM
He was clearly a rebel as well. The Force is strong with that one! He figured it out on his own.

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 08:10 AM
We dont know if his body disappeared or not. The clothing, the armor, and all the cybernetics would not have disappeared. For all we know, his body is gone, and only the shell remains. Anakin may have learned in another way, or perhaps Qui-Gon taught him quickly, or even after death. Since Qui-Gon learned after death, why not Anakin?

tailz
05-22-2005, 10:19 AM
yes i wanted to know that what would qui gon be teaching obi-wan its not becoming one with the force if u payed close attention every jedi would but they would not have the ability to take any shape now if qui-gon was going to teach that to obi-one i think they should have shown him in epi III at the end or something

(btw didnt the end (the part where luke was giving to owen and whats her name) remind you of epi IV)

oh the order of the best should be like this

IV III VI I V II

you know im right just admit it

TheAbominatrix
05-22-2005, 10:30 AM
No, ever Jedi does not have the ability to manifest themselves, and to die without leaving a body. That is what Qui-Gon was teaching them. When anyone dies, they become part of the Force, but they do not become One with the Force, able to communicate and interact with the living world as spirits.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 10:48 AM
I'm pretty sure all the direction during the scene where baby Luke is given to Beru and Owen is geared toward being remniscent of IV. That was, like, the point. -_-;

NM
05-22-2005, 11:01 AM
y did general grevous cough so many time??? is he sick???????

If you watch the Clone Wars, cartoon series, you'll see why General Grievous has a cough in the film.

Shlup
05-22-2005, 11:40 AM
y did general grevous cough so many time??? is he sick???????

If you watch the Clone Wars, cartoon series, you'll see why General Grievous has a cough in the film.
Or you could just say it right now since I don't remember seeing that in Clone Wars. ;__;

NM
05-22-2005, 01:06 PM
Fair enough if you want me to. :D

As Grievous is escaping Coruscant with Senator Palpatine, Mace Windu crushes his chest using the force. It's only a small scene at the end of chapter 25, but you see Grievous fall to his knees and start coughing.

muchacho
05-22-2005, 01:52 PM
this movie was awesome, but it had some parts i didnt like.

i didnt like that grievous had 4 lightsabers, it seemed like lucas was like "hhhhm last film anikan used 2 lightsabers, so this time lets make someone use 4!"

i also didnt like the ending with vader crying, it reminded me of a scene from something like frankinstien. vader is the most badass villan EVER, from any movie, and he's crying? that scene was stupid and they shouldn't have had him crying.

ok last thing i didnt like. mace windu vs. palpatine fight scene. i am a mace windu fan, and since episode 1 i wanted to see him fight someone. episode 2 was ok cause he saw some action, but still no lightsaber duel. this one it started happening and i was like "OMFG!#$!% IVE ALLWAYS WANTED THIS#@$~!@#%#$" then it ended in about 5 seconds after that. should have been alot longer...... i mean come on its the highest sith lord vs. the best jedi lightsaber duelest.

p.s dont think i didnt like this movie, cause i thought it was one of the best, there were just some parts.

Pauten
05-22-2005, 03:16 PM
Vader was not crying. He was angry and full of hatred towards himself.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
05-22-2005, 08:10 PM
yea c'mon........he thinks he killed his own wife

Old Manus
05-22-2005, 10:37 PM
Pussy.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
05-23-2005, 02:33 AM
<ul type="square"><li>I love that C3P0 gets his mind wiped but R2D2 doesn't, meaning R2 basically knows the whole story but is just holding out on 3P0 in Episodes IV-VI.
<li>I love General Grievous. I was actually expecting to see more of his blatant badassery on display <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba01.gif">as</a> <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba02.gif">seen</a> <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba03.gif">in</a> <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba04.gif">the</a> <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba05.gif">Clone Wars</a> <a href="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ggba06.gif">series</a>, but as long as he had those four lightsabers in full effect for even one scene, I was happy.
<li>I love Wookiees. And no Ewoks in sight.
<li>I'd forgotten how much of a creepy bastard Anakin is when he grabs his woman by the head and stares into her eyes like some kind of mouth-breathing serial rapist.
<li>Ewan McGregor was stunning was Obi-Wan. I could easily have believed that was a younger Alec Guinness playing the part.
<li>Yoda's assassination attempt. You know the only reason he didn't come out on top there was because it would have caused a paradox.
<li>The scene where Mace was at odds with Palpatine and Anakin had to decide to whom he'd give his allegiance broke my heart. I mean, that was the crucial moment where, if Anakin had decided differently, everything would have gone differently. Watching everything go down the drain in that one instance was almost unbearable, and Palpatine's deception of Anakin--with that "I'm so <i>weak</i>" garbage, plus all his Force lightning and gummy cackling--instantly made him the most dastardly villain of all time in my book.
<li>I hadn't really thought about it beforehand, but as the movie was getting towards its end I began to think about what it would have to show in order to perfectly lead into Episode IV--Yoda on Dagobah, Ben on Tatooine, the construction of the Death Star, and the twins on Alderaan and Tatooine. There was no Dagobah scene, but they set up Yoda and Ben's exile well enough, and it showed the other things just as I was expecting. Besides being great in general, the movie really did its job of tying the saga together. No loose ends to speak of.
<li>All in all, I was happy to see Lucas and company got their act together after Episodes I and II and finally made a classic Star Wars prequel; I'd certainly put it up there with Episode IV and Episode VI. Of course, nothing could ever equal The Empire Strikes Back, but it came close.</ul>

Shlup
05-23-2005, 02:37 AM
I don't get the hype about The Empire Strikes Back. Return of the Jedi was better.

Fair enough if you want me to. :D

As Grievous is escaping Coruscant with Senator Palpatine, Mace Windu crushes his chest using the force. It's only a small scene at the end of chapter 25, but you see Grievous fall to his knees and start coughing.
Ah, I saw that but didn't catch that referrence. Thanks.

Excelsior
05-23-2005, 06:49 AM
We dont know if his body disappeared or not. The clothing, the armor, and all the cybernetics would not have disappeared. For all we know, his body is gone, and only the shell remains.


hoh hoh! but having re-watched the scene in Jedi when Vader dies, i just realized, his helmet is off, and his head is exposed. when a Jedi fades, its instant, and he obviously didnt fade, as you could see his head the whole time.

Sefie1999AD
05-23-2005, 10:59 AM
The scene where Mace was at odds with Palpatine and Anakin had to decide to whom he'd give his allegiance broke my heart. I mean, that was the crucial moment where, if Anakin had decided differently, everything would have gone differently. Watching everything go down the drain in that one instance was almost unbearable, and Palpatine's deception of Anakin--with that "I'm so weak" garbage, plus all his Force lightning and gummy cackling--instantly made him the most dastardly villain of all time in my book.

I totally agree with Kishi here. That's why I made a parody scene to StarCraft where Anakin doesn't kill Mace Windu at that point, but Palpatine gets beaten up there.

About Anakin fading: According to Lucas, he did fade, and Luke just burned his armor. I don't know where Anakin learned to fade, but he sure faded or he couldn't have appeared as the Jedi Spirit/Ghost in the end. I watched Return of the Jedi yesterday, and I think it goes this way:

DARTH VADER: "You were right about me... Tell your sister... you were right..."
(Anakin loses his consciousness.)
LUKE: "Father... I will not leave without you!"
(Anakin's dying.)
(The camera shows Luke's face, and he's crying. I think this is when Anakin faded because the camera doesn't show his face after that moment until the ending scene.)

Since I didn't grow up with either OT or PT, I feel kind of like an outsider since I loved Episode II as well. Most of the Star Wars movies have loads of great moments though none of them is perfect as a stand-alone. Story-wise, Episode VI would have the best features, such as the Emperor being shown again, some more of Obi-Wan and Yoda, Luke and Leia revealed to be twins, the Rebel Alliance having probably the most amount of characters ever (Han Solo, Lando, Admiral Ackbar, Mon Mothma, Chewie, Wedge and loads of other people), Jabba and Boba making a final comeback and whatnot. However, as a movie, I prefer Episodes like IV and V.

bigbri2k5
05-23-2005, 11:04 AM
i went to see it with three of my friends. it was great and we spent all dat arguing over the greatest fight. i picked yoda vs darth sidious and they picked obi-wan vs anakin. can someone tell me where the sad part was coz a man near me on the back row was crying like a little girl

NM
05-23-2005, 12:11 PM
can someone tell me where the sad part was coz a man near me on the back row was crying like a little girl

How about Obi Wan having to fight someone he's known and trained for 13 years who he cares about like a brother. Seeing that he's turned to the Dark Side and having to leave him for dead, having cut of both his legs and an arm, and seeing him burnt by lava.

TheAbominatrix
05-23-2005, 12:14 PM
A man losing his soul for the woman he loves, and winding up damning her in the process, and himself. Losing everything he had. Two close friends, brothers, having to fight, one having to destroy the other... seems pretty sad to me.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
05-23-2005, 09:23 PM
A man losing his soul for the woman he loves, and winding up damning her in the process, and himself. Losing everything he had. Two close friends, brothers, having to fight, one having to destroy the other... seems pretty sad to me.

right thurr

Necronopticous
05-23-2005, 09:39 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who thought the movie was charmless and just about as cheesy as the last two installments, though I cringe at the thought of considering them installments to the series. I will admit that I enjoyed the movie more than the last two because the cheesy scenes were more comical than annoying (e.g. "Younglings" and Vader's Frankenstein impression "nooo...")

Everything in the film seemed incredibly obvious, forced, and driven, like Lucas just covered what needed to tie the films together and it's like you're just kind of waiting for him to hit each of the scenes you full and well know are coming. The movie had 2 or 3 cheesy scenes every 15 minutes and the fact that the entire theatre was bursting out in laughter to the 60% of the dialogue that was just plain awful made it hard to actually feel for.

Well, in my opinion Episode III was undoubtedly the best and most enjoyable of the three prequels but not in any right a good movie.

Shlup
05-23-2005, 10:23 PM
Jeremy... you're on my list.

Halifax Housewife
05-23-2005, 10:28 PM
Thought it was an awesome movie.

I'd love to find out what happened inbetween Episodes 3 and 4, 'tho, since there is about a 20 year gap inbetween. A lot of things must of happened, such as, for example, how Chewie and Han Solo got together. Maybe it was explained in 4, 5, or 6. I missed that part, I guess.

Also, there must of been some Jedi that tried to fight Darth Vader and the Sith Lord in that 20 year gap.

I hope Lucas considers making another movie or a television series that explains what happened in that time gap.

TheAbominatrix
05-23-2005, 11:25 PM
Chewie and Han met in the spice mines of Kessel, if I remember right. I dont remember how they both got there, though, or how they escaped.

RSL
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
How come I've never heard of these clone wars cartoons?

Shlup
05-24-2005, 01:06 AM
Because you're a poop.

I downloaded them off mininova.com :p

When the text was scrolling at the beginning of RotS I was like "Hey! That was on Clone Wars yesterday!"

fire_of_avalon
05-24-2005, 02:02 AM
:<3: Obi Wan. So much :<3:

And how hot is Anakin in the black leather, I mean REALLY?

Kossage
05-24-2005, 10:40 AM
RSL: Clone Wars chapters 21-25 (small size) can be viewed on SW.com website under the Clone Wars section.

After seeing Clone Wars I was expecting Grievous to be a total killing machine, but he wasn't like that in the movie. In a way I felt sorry for him because of his constant coughing and such: he just seemed so miserable in the movie when compared to the Clone Wars (although Grievous did have his moments in the movie, like when he used four lightsabres at the same time).

bigbri2k5
05-24-2005, 01:56 PM
Also, there must of been some Jedi that tried to fight Darth Vader and the Sith Lord in that 20 year gap.
there are no jedis apart from yoda and ben who go into exile and Luke who doesnt know. remember all the council were killed and anakin attacked the temple and killed all the younglings

TheAbominatrix
05-24-2005, 02:02 PM
There are no Jedi that we're told about. But countless Jedi were on missions, and I doubt all of them were killed by Clone Troopers. Even Obi-Wan and Yoda acknowledge it, when they change the broadcast message to tell any other Jedi to stay away from the temple. Not to mention we only see a few Council members killed, not all.

I believe in the books, there's mention of other Jedi who survived and tended to the Jedi holocrons. edit: And I am aware that Yoda tells Luke he's the last of the Jedi. That is, however, 20 years later. Anyone else who had survived the initial purge could have been caught later, or died of age, or whatever.

And by the way, Jedi is the plural of Jedi.

Drift
05-24-2005, 07:19 PM
did anyone else go blind when the two lightsabre fights started? so many flashing lights!

nik0tine
05-24-2005, 11:50 PM
did anyone else go blind when the two lightsabre fights started? so many flashing lights!
No.

Itsunari 2000
05-25-2005, 04:51 PM
Yeah , I saw it last night - and I loved it.The action was , in typical Lucas form , absolutely spectacular , the drama was intense and dark and some stunning performances from the main characters.This was a vey emotional element in the Stars Wars saga - something I've not seen in any great extent since the original trilogies.Lucas has almost certainly delivered a fitting final instalment in his epic saga.Seeing it rekindled good memories of my childhood experiences with the franchise, and this has really led me to rediscover the on-screen magic which captured my attention as a boy.

FF Junkie
05-25-2005, 08:23 PM
ok last thing i didnt like. mace windu vs. palpatine fight scene. i am a mace windu fan, and since episode 1 i wanted to see him fight someone. episode 2 was ok cause he saw some action, but still no lightsaber duel. this one it started happening and i was like "OMFG!#$!% IVE ALLWAYS WANTED THIS#@$~!@#%#$" then it ended in about 5 seconds after that. should have been alot longer...... i mean come on its the highest sith lord vs. the best jedi lightsaber duelest.


I felt the same way as you did, in wanting to see Mace mix it up. We Windu fans have to take solace in the fact that the very reason this battle didn't last that long is that Mace was just head and shoulders above Palpi when it comes to lightsaber use. You had already given yourself the reason why it was so brief... Palpatine and Yoda are both amazingly talented when it comes to the mental aspects of the force, while Mace and Darth Maul are the two most physically talented force users (aka most skilled with lightsabers). The wild card here is of course Anakin/Vader, as he had the potential to be the best at everything. You could argue that by this movie he was actually the most gifted Jedi fighter, as recall he even tells Windu that his help will be needed to take down Palpatine (perhaps it's Anakin's arrogance, or perhaps it's just true that he's supposedly a better fighter by this point... I mean, he DID wipe the floor with Dooku).
But that withstanding, when you look at the Palpatine versus Windu duel, it was simply no contest due to Windu's superior fighting abilities. Sidious didn't really ever have to use the lightsaber in the past, as his mental powers were quite formidable.
But 100% agreed that Mace was the man!


There are no Jedi that we're told about. But countless Jedi were on missions, and I doubt all of them were killed by Clone Troopers. Even Obi-Wan and Yoda acknowledge it, when they change the broadcast message to tell any other Jedi to stay away from the temple. Not to mention we only see a few Council members killed, not all.

I believe in the books, there's mention of other Jedi who survived and tended to the Jedi holocrons. edit: And I am aware that Yoda tells Luke he's the last of the Jedi. That is, however, 20 years later. Anyone else who had survived the initial purge could have been caught later, or died of age, or whatever.

And by the way, Jedi is the plural of Jedi.

Yeah, there were other Jedi who survived the Purge. That series that Lucas is supposed to come out with is going to tell some of their stories, as it takes place in the period between Episodes 3 and 4.
The Lucas camp even tells us about the fate of these other Jedi. If anyone has the VHS of Episode 2, it tells you right at the beginning, in that little segment with R2 and 3PO, how Vader hunts them all down. I don't know if it's on the DVD version as well, as I haven't bought it yet.. I'm waiting 'til there's a package deal with all three of the new trilogy ones.
Not to get off topic, but I REALLY wish that Lucas'd devote some episodes of the tv series to telling some stories of the heroic Jedi we've seen throughout the movies.... a few Mace Windu tales would be much more entertaining than telling of some Jedi who couldn't hold a candle to any of the ones we meet in the movies.

Also a quick note...that scene of the Jedi Purge was AMAZING! The music flowed so well with it... I actually got teary-eyed, and the entire theater was absolutely hushed and motionless through the whole thing.

Please don't double post.-- foa

Seto Fett
05-25-2005, 09:13 PM
There was a handful of Jedi that did survive the Jedi Purge, as it's officially titled. Most, as Obi-Wan and Yoda, went into hiding for years. Some died naturally, while others were killed by Darth Vader. One famous one was the Dark Woman, who was killed a few months prior to A New Hope.

Del Murder
05-27-2005, 02:12 AM
I was impressed with the movie, but then again I am impressed with most movies after I see them in the theater the first time. I'll have to see it again before I get a clear read on how good I really think it is. It took me a few viewings for me to realize that Phantom Menace was the worst one and that Attack of the Clones was hindered by its poor dialogue.

For what it set out to do it delivered very well. Everyone was in their right spots for part IV, the Organa-General Kenobi relationship was established, and even that little problem of 3PO knowing too much was taken care of with one simple line. I really like Bail Organa. He sure has an important role in both series for someone who didn't get much screen time. Got to love the brief Chewbacca cameo.

The only inconsistency I can still think of was Leia's memory of her mother. I'm pretty sure when Return of the Jedi was first made that quote was meant to refer to her real mother, and that it implied she had knowledge of being adopted. Obviously she can't have any memory of Padme, and I think this is just something that has to slip by. Sure, you could argue that she was referring to her adopted mother, and maybe that's what it was the whole time.

I didn't like the way Padme was treated in this film. She had really established herself as a strong-willed character in Episodes I and II, but in this one she was just sort of there. I guess it makes sense that she would take a back seat since this was supposed to be the Anakin/Palpatine show. I like how his vision of her death is what led him to the dark side, but the reason she died was because he abandoned her for the dark side. Good stuff.

Palpatine was awesome. Playing possum with Windu was great, as well as the fight scene with Yoda in the senate arena. He is easily one of the best villains ever. He had everything planned and everyone in his pocket from the start.

The most important thing was that the way it all went down was pretty believable. Anakin's passion for Padme led him down the dark path, and his mind was easily warped into thinking the Jedi were responsible for everything, since they hadn't given him what he wanted most, the power to save her. The clones turning on all the Jedi made sense and was a great scene. I was wondering how Anakin and the Emperor were going to kill them all, but this made it so they didn't have to, and partially explained some of Palpatine's motives behind the clone army and the war in the first place.

Kirobaito
05-28-2005, 06:50 AM
OK, I saw it today with my friends. I am not afraid to say that I enjoyed this movie more than I enjoyed even The Empire Strikes Back, which if you know me as a Star Wars fan, is really something.

Just about everything was perfect in this movie...the way in which Anakin was led to the Dark Side was a very plausible one, to say the least. I watched Episode I tonight with my dad (I'm gonna go see RotS again with him this weekend, like a good son), and just watching it again made my heart hurt for two reasons.

1) The Phantom Menace was a terrible, terrible movie.
2) Watching everything work out the way it did made me so sad. :(

There was one thing that was weird...were the two droids animated in? It appeared that way, because some of the ways in which they moved were nothing similar to the ways in which they should have, primarily when Threepio was boarding the Naboo shuttle...it just seemed weird to me. I also find it funny, knowing that Artoo, throughout the entire original trilogy, knew everything. What a little stud.

Chewie KNEW Yoda? That seems a bit weird to me. Of course, they never meet in the original trilogy, but suddenly Chewie seems to have a much more important role to me in the originals. Heh.

You know what's going to happen, yet, you were still on the edge of your seat, praying that maybe, just MAYBE, the movie would screw up and Anakin would let Mace kill Palpatine. Just like in Titanic. She always lets go, every time you watch the movie. That fact alone showed just how incredibly good RotS is.

Having never even heard of these Clone War comics until reading this thread, General Grievous seemed like a very random and very weird enemy. Not really cool at all. I must now see these comics.

Though this movie was in all INCREDIBLY FREAKIN' AWESOME, there were a couple of things that were too corny. Primarily the final scene with Vader. Geez, I was half expecting to see a bolt through his head and for Palpatine to scream out "IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIIIIVE!!!!" Oh wait, Vader probably did have a bolt through his head. :p

See this movie and witness its awesomeness.

Shlup
05-28-2005, 06:55 AM
You know what's going to happen, yet, you were still on the edge of your seat, praying that maybe, just MAYBE, the movie would screw up and Anakin would let Mace kill Palpatine.
I felt the same way. In my mind I was just BEGGING for it to turn out totally different, even though there's no way it could have. xD

:weep:

And, BTW, Clone Wars is a cartoon.

Kirobaito
05-28-2005, 06:59 AM
Comics, cartoons, close enough.

Shlup
05-28-2005, 07:15 AM
Well good luck when you go to a comic book store and ask for Clone Wars. Hope you come out alive. xD

Kawaii Ryűkishi
05-28-2005, 07:16 AM
Fair enough if you want me to. :D

As Grievous is escaping Coruscant with Senator Palpatine, Mace Windu crushes his chest using the force. It's only a small scene at the end of chapter 25, but you see Grievous fall to his knees and start coughing.Ah, I saw that but didn't catch that referrence. Thanks.<img src="http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/mwba01.gif" alt="SHUT YO MOUTH">

Shlup
05-28-2005, 07:18 AM
Well that takes care of that then.

eestlinc
05-31-2005, 04:48 AM
I just now finally saw this movie. Wow.

edit: I think Kishi is right on in all his points. That's basically my feelings, too.

eden knight
05-31-2005, 09:36 AM
Yesterday(hurray!i couldn't find a single seat the other days) i saw the movie with my girlfriend.I have to say that i consider it the best episode of the saga.It had some really epic battles.
Lucas you rock!

Old Manus
05-31-2005, 09:39 AM
Anakin: "You're so beautiful."
Padme: "It's because I'm in love with you."
(Anakin then laughs, and I think then he was actually laughing at how bad the script in this part was.)
Anakin: "No, It's because I'm so in love with YOU!"
Padme: "Damn. PWN3D."

Armisael
05-31-2005, 01:37 PM
I just watched it yesterday too..God Anakin was so man!^_^
It was really nicely done,surely a great way to complete the series!

Battousai62
05-31-2005, 10:42 PM
Yes I agree this was the best Star Wars movie of the first three. I was very sad at the end because the story was finally over and i had nothing else to look forward too.

Shoden
06-02-2005, 08:51 PM
heres a picture http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Shoden/Others/benedict.jpg

XD

so thats why Grievous seemed so frale

Blackmageboi
06-02-2005, 09:45 PM
i recently saw the film the lightsaber fights hurt my eyes because of all the flashing

Old Manus
06-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Lightsabre fights were good, but it could have done some more backed-away shots to show what was actually happening, because there were a lot of shots that were right close up on somebody's face. That way you couldn't see what was happening and lightsabres would just flash across the screen at random.

Psychotic
06-02-2005, 11:49 PM
Lightsabre fights were good, but it could have done some more backed-away shots to show what was actually happening, because there were a lot of shots that were right close up on somebody's face. That way you couldn't see what was happening and lightsabres would just flash across the screen at random.Exactly what I thought. Especially in Mace v Palpatine and for some of Anakin v Obi.

Still, the Dooku fight didn't have too many, so that was nice.

kikimm
06-03-2005, 12:36 AM
I thought the Dooku fight was done rather poorly. Hmph.

But yeah, saw this last Saturday. I loved it, and now I can safely say that I love the new ones much much more than the old ones. >=D!


:D

Spiffing Cheese
06-03-2005, 05:37 PM
I loved Revenge of the Sith. It was awesome. The only problem I had with it was Natalie Portman and Hayden Christenson's acting, but aside from that it was great.

As for the Darth Vader shouting thing,

http://vadercoaster.ytmnd.com/

Armisael
06-03-2005, 07:52 PM
The only problem I had with it was Natalie Portman and Hayden Christenson's acting, but aside from that it was great.

What do you mean?That Hayden and Natalie didn't play well or that they didn't have chemistry?

Blackmageboi
06-03-2005, 10:51 PM
Lightsabre fights were good, but it could have done some more backed-away shots to show what was actually happening.
that would of taken more time and cost those lazy bums more plus it would require the jedi to be able to use the lightsaber properly

TheAbominatrix
06-03-2005, 11:42 PM
The actors trained for quite some time with professional sword-fighters before the duels. They had a lot of training, and knew what they were doing.

SomethingBig
06-04-2005, 12:35 AM
I didn't bother to read the first 4 pages of this thread, so my apologies if these things have already been brought up.

I liked the movie, save for these details:
- Nathalie Portman's miniscule role - After the very big role that she played in Episode II and especially the huge role that she plays in Anakin's life, I expected to see Padmé for at 10% of the movie.
- The dialogue between Anakin and Padmé made me cry - Not in a good way.
Padmé: Anakin, I'm pregnant.
Anakin: *Grimaces for a good 10 seconds* This.... is the most amazing day of my life.

Anakin: I'm going to conquer the universe. You and I together! We can make everyone think the way we do!
Padmé: Ani...
Me: *Waiting for Padmé to say something big*
Padmé: YOU'RE BREAKING MY HEART!
Me: What.

- Some of the dialogue:
Vader: Where is Padme? Is she all right?
Sidius: You... You killed her in your rage.
Vader: What? No... That's impossible.... NOOOOOOOOOOO!

- General Grievous - What in the bloody hell did they do to him? In the cartoon, he was such an amazing character that owned 7+ Jedi. In the movie, he had heart problems and lost so very easily. I also hate how they just added him in the movie for the sake of him being there. They didn't give a background story of him at all. He was just there.
- Padme went through 2-3 trimesters in a matter of a week.
- Anakin's transition from good to evil - It was done so very poorly. He was so annoying in the movie. Here's Obi Wan who has trained, looked over, and has pretty much been a father to Anakin for a good decade or so. Enter Sidius, who's known Anakin for less than a year. With talk of saving Padme, he somehow wooes Anakin into joining the Dark Side within a couple days. Anakin, who was a righteous Jedi just a few days ago. Anakin, who even said that Obi Wan was a father to him.
*After cutting Mace Windu's hand off*
Anakin: What have I done? *Wheeps*
Sidius: I now dub thee, Darth Vader.
Anakin: Oh, okay. I'm here to serve you, master.

I liked the movie. I really did. It just could've used a bit more work.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-04-2005, 02:31 AM
They gave Grievous all the background he needed--top dog of the droid separatist army.

Del Murder
06-04-2005, 02:33 AM
I think it is pretty obvious that the movie didn't take place in real time. I'm pretty sure that there were a good couple of years between the two movies and obviously nine months passed between Palpatine's rescue and Anakin's betrayal. It wasn't transitioned smoothly but I can understand it since they had a lot of material to cover.

Anakin knew Palpatine for a number of years. Even in Attack of the Clones they acted as though they were close and that the Chancellor had a mentor role with him.

Kirobaito
06-04-2005, 02:40 AM
I believe that Anakin said that the Chancellor had always been a mentor to him "as soon as [he] arrived here [Coruscant]," which I would assume means when he was 8 years old.

Shlup
06-04-2005, 04:03 AM
Palpatine had been twisting Anakin since he was a child, and new how to play on his ego and his emotions. I thought Anakin's fall was perfect.

TheAbominatrix
06-04-2005, 11:41 AM
Anakin was 9 when he came to Coruscant, and no doubt Sidious saw the opportunity then... the Chosen One would fit perfectly into his plans. He started working then... and episode III takes place quite some time after episode II. The fact that Anakin is a Knight says a lot... how old was he in AotC? 20 or thereabouts? Most Jedi take the Trials and become Knights around 30, give or take a few years and barring special cases, so Anakin was probably in his late 20's/early 30's (I'm sure Clone Wars expands on the time line). Sidious had a lifetime to manipulate him. Plus, Sidious played on something very important; Anakin's downright obsession with Padme.

We see it in AotC, where he talks about how he's never stopped thinking about her. He lays it on thick the whole time, he's completly infatuated with her. So when he's faced with the prospect of losing her, it's enough to make him do just about anything. Padme is more important to Anakin than Palpatine, Obi-Wan, and the entire Jedi Order. The mere thought of losing her is enough to make him sell his soul to save her.

Armisael
06-04-2005, 03:18 PM
So when he's faced with the prospect of losing her, it's enough to make him do just about anything. Padme is more important to Anakin than Palpatine, Obi-Wan, and the entire Jedi Order. The mere thought of losing her is enough to make him sell his soul to save her.
Yeah you are right..And the irony is that his actions actually lead her to death..

TheAbominatrix
06-05-2005, 12:38 AM
Yep. That whole thing was a shining reason of why the Jedi Order doesnt allow such relationships. But if Anakin had followed Yoda's advice, or Padme's, and simply allowed things to come as they would, she'd be alive and he'd be the happy father of twins. Oh, and Palpatine would be dead and the galaxy would be at peace.

*kicks Anakin*

T-MaN
06-05-2005, 05:26 AM
The movie was an awesome film. They should have made General Grievous a bit more powerful or stronger at least. My little brother's favourite character in Star Wars was Mace Windu (Don't even know if I even spelt it right xD), and when he got his hand sliced by Anakin, my brother said, " What the F***ing hell is this? Anakin, you're a cheap B****!" From that day on, my little brother hated Anakin with a passion. (The little guy is only 10 years old. I didn't even know he had such outstanding vocabulary. xD)

Fireglass
06-05-2005, 05:03 PM
I believe in the books, there's mention of other Jedi who survived and tended to the Jedi holocrons.


Yeah I read about one who escaped the initial slaughter; he was a librarian (wow) for some super Jedi space station.
But I'm not sure if the book was Okayed by Lucas; it may have just been some published fanfic.

tailz
06-05-2005, 05:14 PM
wasnt the surviving jedi callista???

btw one thing that anoyed me to no end

EPI 2 obi-wan: This weapon is your live try not to lose it next time

epi 3 not only did obi-wan lose his lightsaber even friging windu and yoda lost thieres

TheAbominatrix
06-05-2005, 11:06 PM
Obi-Wan has to say those sorts of things, he's a teacher. Besides, it isnt like Anakin got in trouble for it.

Anyway, Callista didnt survive persay her soul was trapped in the Eye of Palpatine or whatever that machine was called.

And thanks for the enough, FireGlass :skull3:

Seto Fett
11-05-2005, 04:31 AM
Whoever wanted to know when Revenge took place, it was approximately three years. On to the important, the DVD is out! Anyone who is a fan should do themselves a favor and buy it! :D

Azure Chrysanthemum
11-05-2005, 04:53 AM
This thread is several months old. Please don't revive old threads.