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[Vod]

This yet another one of my ever so crazy "complaint threads" much like my "101 reasons why algus needed to die" thread, this one is so that everyone can post how they liked Final Fantasy Tactics more than or equal to Final Fantasy Tactics advance.

Because i'll be honest final fantasy tactics had a much better storyline a lot of better perks. like better classes, monsters in team, and it didn't have any of that law stuff. and to add insult to injury final fantasy tactics advance got much higher ratings and sales. are we gonna stand by here and take that!?1 I know i'm not, and since I refuse to ambush or boycott my favorite game company i'm gathering all those who liked the original better and being perfectly content with that, yay!!1

[feioncastor]

FFTA wasn't nearly as good. I couldn't tell you why. FFTA just wasn't as cool. It wasn't bad, but not nearly as good. FFT is my favorite game, so I expected a lot out of FFTA.

[Despotus]

I just started playing FFTA for the first time, and I'm about 20 hrs. into my first game. So I won't say anything too critical about it yet. :rolleyes2 (yearight)
I don't much care for FFTA's juvenile storyline, FFT was so much more sinister. FFT made me say "Whooaah, no way!" :whaaa: , or "You Bastard, I'm gonna mess you up!" :hot: ; with FFTA I say "mmmm...whatever...stop gabbin' and let's fight." :blahblah:
I HATE :frust: having to equip a certain (often expensive$$$) weapon in order to learn each attack skill or spell in FFTA, and you have to fight a number of battles with said weapon in order to 'master' the skill attached to the weapon, and thus finally be able to use it without equiping the weapon. Then you can pass that weapon to another character and spend forever teaching him/her its skill. FFT's skill learning is so simple in contrast; just keep making successful actions and you'll earn plenty of j.p. and be able to get all the skills you want, no weapon purchase necessary! :thumb:
I think FFTA has more character classes available, and some are very cool looking and powerful too. But it sucks that races (tribes) are restricted to a handfull of classes each. In FFT, Squire is the only class that is subject to change; oh, and women can be dancers and men become bards. But if I want my main character to be a summoner/calculator :fpsun: on odd numbered days, a singing Lancer :fpdev: on even ones, and a ninja/thief :fpninja: every second Sunday... then dammit I just make it so. :beer:
In FFT, I really enjoy meeting new characters, because they often join the party and bring killer skills and weapons with them. :shoot: But in FFTA a lot of losers with no skills and not even any equipment want to join my 'clan'. :trout: Piss off, ya muppets! ( I hear that I won't even get any "secret" unique characters until after I finish the game! WTF you say?! ) :nonono:
FFT rules, FFTA drools.

[Khimbar2775]

....what he said...

But honestly, I never played FFTA cause I dont have a GBA and dont really care. I read the strategy guide to see how the gameplay worked, and i seriously thought it was of the homosexual orientation, cause we all have to be politically correct now-a-days....

just read my sig....

[Creeping Shadow]

and what was up with the whole juges stop death thing the last time i checked when a sword goes through you ya kinda die and also most special attacks looked the same and did less than your physical attacks

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I missed the CT, it took away a major element of strategy.

[TurkSlayer]

FFTA is an insult to FFT. Don't get me wrong, I actually kinda of like FFTA, But FFT is one of the greatest games I've ever played. FFTA is terrible in comparision. Most of my complaints were mentioned earlier, childish storyline, annoying skill system, classes only certain races can have, and of course, the laws. Actually, one of my worst Gameboy memories of all time took place because of those laws. I was in the final battle with Remedi, and I had Marche come behind her and kill her. I jumped up and started dancing around, and then suddenly I look at the screen and Marche GETS A RED CARD!!!! I kill the last boss, but then I go to jail and it acts as if I didn't win. WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? So I'm still upset about that.

[Lich3636]

the only reason this did so well in sales was because it was the sequal to one of the greatest games of all time. This game didnt even seem like FFT to me the attacks and equipment screen look oddly like that from tactics ogre which is ok it didnt realy bother me but WTF is with the whole judges thing the ppl of this new ivalince are nothing but a bunch of pansies if the some one would have been changeing the laws of FFTs ivalince there would have been riots and wars but whats FFTAs answere? the anti law card :mad: im not even gunna touch the job and learning system of FFTA im just gunna say its retarded. they idiot proofd the turn order ( SE aparently thinks we cant tell who will go next a guy with a ct of 93 or a guy with a ct of 37) I found this entire game a insult to my inteligence my 5 year old cousin even says this game is babyish SE needs to make a good sequal to a game till theres proof they can I want them to stay as far from FFVII as they can lest the butcher that like they did X and FFT

[Khimbar2775]

YES! thank you, some one else who admonishes X-2 for the garbage that it is!

[RedCydranth]

FFT had a better story and everything. Tho only think I liked in FFTA was the various races, not the fact cetain races couldn't do certain jobs, but the fact you could have different races. Moogles rule! Kupo!

[Wiegrahf42]

FFTA and x-2 are the proof that Square has been going down the toilet . The main reason I hate Tactics repressed (I refuse to call it "advance") are that they took a great story and replaced it with a shallow, childish narrative more akin to daytime disney TV then the war epic that I'm used to. Also of course, the gameplay flaws, the pastel graphics, and the lack of good music.

[Del Murder]

The first one was much better, but TA still had its strong points.

[Khimbar2775]

FFTA and x-2 are the proof that Square has been going down the toilet.
my sig couldnt agree more....

[Alexander]

FFTA and x-2 are the proof that Square has been going down the toilet .

i've never played X-2, though.

But I HATE FFT-A. Not like I hate FFVIII. I hate FFVIII because it was a dissapointment, after FFVI and VII. But FFT-A is a piece of crap on its own. It stinks. Idiot plot, idiot classes, idiot characters. Marche is arguably the WORST lead character EVER. Not even Squall is THAT bad. And Bishop, Sage and Alchemist are an insult to FF.

Bishop stole the ONLY offensive magic from White Mages. They are hopeless now.
Alchemist and Sage stole Water, Flare, Death and such from Black Mages. Their best offense now is Blizzaga/Firaga/Thundaga. And this is BAD.
Paladins are a piece of crap. They had decent white magic, now they have... Nurse. x.x'
Assassins are overpowered pieces of crap.
Summoners restrcted to Vieras suck. And the summons. Aside Shiva (Shiva is beautiful in T-A <3), they are fugly. And they kicked Leviathan and Bahamut (UNFORGIVABLE!!!1111oneoneone), they underpowered Phoenix, Unicorn makes White Mages obsolete... etc.
Elementalist is a good class, with decent skills. But again, restricted to those damn Vieras. Seriously, Marche + 5 Vieras is the only team you need, because Vieras are overpowered. Marche can be the Black Mage Vieras can't be (not like you need Black Magic, with Elementalists and Summoners running around), and you're set.

And Tactics... <3

[Khimbar2775]

I shall say for the last time...
my sig couldnt agree more....

[bkkguy]

FFT has one of the best story for strategy-rpg if not the best for console rpg outthere. The plot, in itself makes this game an instant classic. You just can't beat a main character who is willing to risk everything for the truth. At the same time, Ramza is probably the unluckiest character in FF series in being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I would really love to see FFT trillogy coming out in 2007 to celebrate the 10th year aniversary of this great game. And btw, FFTA is an advance BACKWARD type of game.

[Vod]

I've started calling it Final Fantasy Tactics Re-used sort of an agreement with Wiegrahf42, Adavnce I know is just to say it's on gameboy advance but that does make it sound like it would be better. the reason i'm calling it Re-used it because if you look at it, thats what it is, hunting for crystals, this time there are just 5 of them and they aren't so small but if you look at the screen, they still have the zodiac symbols carved into them, what kind of crap is that!?1 also I noticed that Marche does look suspiciously (who cares if I spelt that wrong) like Ramza, because of which I even named him that to respect the first game, I was ashamed of myself when I found out what a pansy Marche was. ok now It may sound like it because of how much I complain about it being inferior to the first one but don't get me wrong, I did not hate FFTRU, I spent about a week glued to my gameboy wanting to beat it, I will say this though, the main reason why I wanted to continue playing had to be Cid, we has to be the coolest character in that game...actually has anyone noticed that in several final fantasies, Cid is one of the coolest characters, I don't think he was in 8 and 10 (10-2) ok i'm gonna stop ranting now

[Lich3636]

in 8 cid was the leader of the seed building and cid was the leader of the al bhed in 10

[darkblade117]

cid wasn't playable in 8...

[Khimbar2775]

so.. he wasnt playable in III either... or in IX, or prolly in every other FF out there... but one thing remains.. he is in some way related to the flying transport of the game... are there any interferences in the first 6? i havent played those in God knows how long....

[°¿°¿°]

yea ive never played FFT but i ahve FFTA hmm ill probaly get FFT though it sounds alot better than FFTA

[Khimbar2775]

ooh! yes, please do! youll be ashamed of yourself if you thought FFTA was even *remotely* fun, for the omnipotent power that FFT wields over it shall enthrall your mind from that day you buy it till your death! :D but thats just *my* opinion....

[Tama2]

FFT is and will always be better than FFTA. I think the story in FFTA is pretty lame too.

[Russ80]

FFT is kinda un-noob friendly though. It's hard to get into it if you happen to suck in the beginning. My brother hasn't gotten into it b/c he couldn't beat the second battle (didn't understand the adding party members thing. He was playing with just Ramza!

[Tekno Drifter]

FFTA wasn't nearly as good. I couldn't tell you why. FFTA just wasn't as cool. It wasn't bad, but not nearly as good. FFT is my favorite game, so I expected a lot out of FFTA.

I totally agree.

[ShunNakamura]

I just add in. the CT in Tactics was cool. The fact that spells weren't instantanoues was cool. The fact that you could be missed by helpful magic(life, prot, etc) was great.. though annoying at time.

Basically Tactics had more tactics in it. Though imagine tactics with something similar to the judge system. I know ya'all find it annoying but I actually kinda like it. It adds to the tactics somewhat.. however I do feel it needs refined. The no death is one thing that I find silly.. and the fact taht the judge always sees a wrong. It should be more of a rumour to castle deal where you may get cuaght.

[DocFrance]

Hmm. I've been skimming this thread, and it seems the main reason you people hate FFTA is that it's not the same exact game as FFT.

I enjoyed both games a lot. They both have their good and bad sides. I don't see any reason to get my panties in a twist just because FFTA has some elements that are different from FFT.

[ShunNakamura]

Well yeah FFTA is enjoyable.. but the instaneous magic casting wasn't as fun/challenging as before. They both had thier strong and weak points. I think a merger of the two would be great. Faith and Brave while basic added to the game... And the compatability was fun too. Add that in with a modified judge system, some of the mission importance, etc.. and well you could get one kick but game.

[Khimbar2775]

well, my personal opinion in response to DocFrance is in relation to the Bond movies. Sean Connery was the best. No contest. Then when Moore replaced him at a later date, he just couldn't reach the benchmark Connery set oh so long ago. Because it was the original, and theres no changing that. Yes Moore was a "Bond" who are all worshipped, as are Final Fantasy, but Moore isn't as liked as much as Connery or Bronson (I think thats his name, the most recent, but I hear that hes being replaced soon also)

[Vod]

Look from what i've been hearing since I started this thread, many people seem to assume that I did not like Final Fantasy Tactics Re-used. I didn't hate it, it had many good qualities. for instance I myself loved the Bangaas, and the Moogles were cool as well. but apparantly square got the idea that multiple species eliminated the ability to invite monsters. another thing I disliked and many people will agree with me here, is that there are no longer generic characters that you can name and call your own. ok enough of that. FFTR had some pretty good music, some interesting bosses and I myself loved the totema attacks (mostly adramalech because duh, he was in the first one) also I loved that FFTR has Tonberry's...even though you coulnd't invite them (grr...) but yeah both games had their ups and downs. for instance FFTR did not have nearly as many translation errors. and Khimbar...that was kind of a confusing example, though you do bring up a good point Connery was an excellent James Bond