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lordblazer
07-01-2005, 05:19 AM
I saw this movie yesterday on wenesday and man It was pretty good if you've seen it what do you think also um I didn't get it why did they attack the earth?

The Man
07-01-2005, 05:24 AM
They wanted our über-leet planet because we hadn't completely destroyed it yet. Or something. I can't remember the book very well, which is probably because I read it over ten years ago.

I liked it, but I thought it would have been a lot better if Spielberg had focused on more than one story.

Necronopticous
07-01-2005, 05:24 AM
A lot of critics came down hard on War of the Worlds. Personally, I thought it was amazing. It's been a long time since I've seen an exciting terror film that wasn't totally cheesy. I was on the edge of my seat for most of the movie. I hated the ending, but I went expecting it (it is a Spielberg film after all) so it wasn't so bad, the rest of the movie made up for it in full.

Raven Nox
07-01-2005, 05:29 AM
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. When I saw the preveiws, I thought I wouldn't like it. Critics suck. XD

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 05:31 AM
A lot of critics came down hard on War of the Worlds. Personally, I thought it was amazing. It's been a long time since I've seen an exciting terror film that wasn't totally cheesy. I was on the edge of my seat for most of the movie. I hated the ending, but I went expecting it (it is a Spielberg film after all) so it wasn't so bad, the rest of the movie made up for it in full.
yeah it was a waste of my 5 bucks since You know I didn't need the whole seat only the edge yeah lol I thought it was pretty good but its just seemed dumb the ending that is.

Miriel
07-01-2005, 09:28 AM
I loved the movie. It was electrofying, edge of your seat goodness. Some scenes literally had me holding my breath and gripping the arm rests. No one can do a Summer blockbuster like Spielberg.

Not the that the movie didn't have it's problems. But for a pop-corn flick, it was great.

What I liked:
1) All the scenes of destruction and mayhem.
2) The scene where the crowd attacks Ray and Co. in the car. That was such a chilling sequence for so many reasons. And probably the best example of Spielberg's masterful direction.
3) The river of bodies.
4) The Ferry Boat sequence.
5) The fact that everything was seen through the eyes of Ray and his family.
6) It wasn't a war, it was an extermination.

What I disliked:
1) Robbie surviving. I understand that the ending was faithful to the book, but man oh man, It just SUCKED.
2) Mary and her family looking like they stepped out of a Sears family photo when they came out to greet Ray and Rachel. What the hell? The entire world is being covered in blood, but these people don't have a scratch on them?
3) The hide-and-seek sequences in the basement. I have a great ability to suspend my disbelief, but I'm supposed to buy the fact that a super intelligent alien can be fooled by a mirror? Please.
4) General pacing and continuity issues.
5) Robbie needing to fight with the Aliens. What? Seriously, what?

The first hour was almost flawless. Dakota Fanning made me want to strangle her, but I think making her annoying might have been intentional to add to the frustration of the situation. The second part wasn't nearly as good and most of my problems with the movie came toward the end. What I loved most about the movie was how downright depressing parts of it were. Cold, calculated murder on the Alien's part, mass panic, mob violence, and virtually zero chance for the humans to fight back. Which is why the ending was so jarring after all the wonderful grimness.

But overall the film was great fun. I don't think I've seen such a tense and compelling movie in a really long time. :up:

Necronopticous, most of the major critics have given War of the Worlds decent, if not great, reviews. Excluding Ebert of course. But La Ebert went senile a long time ago.

And on a slightly related note, the trailers attached to this movie made me go spastic. King Kong, Chronicles of Narnia, and Elizabethtown trailers one after the other? I nearly died.

Rase
07-01-2005, 09:48 AM
I could have seen it yesterday, but nooooo, I had to go see Bewitched. :(

Anyway, it sounds good, so I'll go see it sometime soon, I hope.

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 04:05 PM
I loved the movie. It was electrofying, edge of your seat goodness. Some scenes literally had me holding my breath and gripping the arm rests. No one can do a Summer blockbuster like Spielberg.

Not the that the movie didn't have it's problems. But for a pop-corn flick, it was great.

What I liked:
1) All the scenes of destruction and mayhem.
2) The scene where the crowd attacks Ray and Co. in the car. That was such a chilling sequence for so many reasons. And probably the best example of Spielberg's masterful direction.
3) The river of bodies.
4) The Ferry Boat sequence.
5) The fact that everything was seen through the eyes of Ray and his family.
6) It wasn't a war, it was an extermination.

What I disliked:
1) Robbie surviving. I understand that the ending was faithful to the book, but man oh man, It just SUCKED.
2) Mary and her family looking like they stepped out of a Sears family photo when they came out to greet Ray and Rachel. What the hell? The entire world is being covered in blood, but these people don't have a scratch on them?
3) The hide-and-seek sequences in the basement. I have a great ability to suspend my disbelief, but I'm supposed to buy the fact that a super intelligent alien can be fooled by a mirror? Please.
4) General pacing and continuity issues.
5) Robbie needing to fight with the Aliens. What? Seriously, what?

The first hour was almost flawless. Dakota Fanning made me want to strangle her, but I think making her annoying might have been intentional to add to the frustration of the situation. The second part wasn't nearly as good and most of my problems with the movie came toward the end. What I loved most about the movie was how downright depressing parts of it were. Cold, calculated murder on the Alien's part, mass panic, mob violence, and virtually zero chance for the humans to fight back. Which is why the ending was so jarring after all the wonderful grimness.

But overall the film was great fun. I don't think I've seen such a tense and compelling movie in a really long time. :up:

Necronopticous, most of the major critics have given War of the Worlds decent, if not great, reviews. Excluding Ebert of course. But La Ebert went senile a long time ago.

And on a slightly related note, the trailers attached to this movie made me go spastic. King Kong, Chronicles of Narnia, and Elizabethtown trailers one after the other? I nearly died.
but you must rmember

by the time those things came to boston disease was plaguing those SOB's thats why they were killing humans and extracting its bloods to get an immune system but that pretty much is impossible lol.With Japan being able to take one down yeah biological warfare.In a way it was a war.Think about it.The only hting that made it seem like an extermination was because those tripods deliberartly killed civilians.BTW I think that the tripod in boston started acting encentric for a while and pretty much gave her family enough time to loook like they came out of a sears catelog.

btw WTF was up with those kids wanting to rebel in that situation(should that be in teh spoiler?)

Xander
07-01-2005, 04:18 PM
I saw it last night. I liked it a lot, although halfway through the film turned French for us cos of a problem with the reels. xD Only for like 20 minutes though. It was a really good film. I agree with pretty much the points Miriel mentioned.

TurkSlayer
07-01-2005, 07:14 PM
I saw it the other day. I though it was awesome. I laughed, I cried, and several times I screamed "HOLY:skull::skull::skull::skull:"... Well, I didn't really cry, but I did plenty of the other two.

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 07:25 PM
I thought it would be action packed and it kinda was but it was more of a horror thing due to the mass panic.Why do people panic in dangerous situations in a mass group in which they know panicing gets them killed especially when your jsut panicing and not thinking,

Thats th e only hting that kept tom cruise nadhsi family alive.

The Man
07-01-2005, 07:28 PM
I think in danger situations, instinct generally takes over, and the instinct is to get the hell out of there as quickly as possible. Which would explain the panic.

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 07:47 PM
That was scary int eh basement part I mean dang that guy was being fraeking loud sinc ethere place was already checked out they wouldn't have been found out but nooo the guuy had to make some noise.

Miriel
07-01-2005, 07:59 PM
I think in danger situations, instinct generally takes over, and the instinct is to get the hell out of there as quickly as possible. Which would explain the panic.

Exactly. The reason why I loved the Ferry boat sequence was because I've actually been in a situation where a friend's hand was ripped away from mine as a mass of people were pushing and falling on top of me and I honestly went into a frenzied panic. And so the terror of that scene was real for me.

The lengths people will go through to try and save themselves are so primal and sometimes even unreasonable. Which is why I thought the Car and the Ferry Boat scenes were so fascinating. And really, what are the obligations we have toward our fellow human beings during life and death situations? The scene with Ray being sucked into the machine was nice because it showed people banding together to save one another, but I think the more realistic scenes were the ones of mass panic and desperation.

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 08:09 PM
I think that this whole movie was realistic liek when they were int eh thingy majiger the machine thing and when it sucked up tom cruise and he set off the grenades those people banning together to save him pretty showed that iif they do something and ocme together and not get themselves killed they were going to have to work together and also the mass panic is also realistic.It was all realistic and it was pretty good.

Miriel
07-01-2005, 08:12 PM
I think that this whole movie was realistic liek when they were int eh thingy majiger the machine thing nad when it sucked up tom cruise and he se toff the grenades those people banning together to save him pretty showed that iif thye do something and ocme together and not get themselves killed they were going ot have to work together and also the mass panic is also realistic.It was all realistic and it was pretty good.
I have no idea what you just said.

crashNUMBERS
07-01-2005, 08:12 PM
My mom wants to see this movie so bad!! She loves tom cruise. I wanna see it aswell though. I think tom is a great actor although I dont love him like my mom does...

lordblazer
07-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Tom cruise is freaking crazy.

Dreddz
07-01-2005, 08:25 PM
I saw, We Dont Live Here anymore instead. But ill try and squeeze this one in only cause its Speilberg

Itsunari 2000
07-01-2005, 08:53 PM
What ?! The aliens wanted to kidnap Tom Cruise to create global panic and anarchy ?! God help us !!!

Sunny Rabbiera
07-02-2005, 04:30 AM
well I always say this to folks who thought that this movie was a ID4 ripoff:

you have to remember the original book wasnt really About "humans versus aliens"
sure that was the premise, but it was more then just that.
it was about survival, not from a soldiers point of view but from the common man who had no military experience or anything.
you also have to remember that the original book was the first of its kind, that before it there were no aliens to think about.

HG Wells was a man way ahead of his time, a man of the late 1800's he concidered possibilities that no one else had [except Verne and a few others]
Wells always had a very interesting way of telling things, he always thought about possibilites.

but one thing worries me is that already most concider this a typical alien invasion flic, after seeing movies like INDIPENDANCE DAY and SIGNS most may shoo this off as just another alien invasion film when the original book was the mother of all alien invasions.
hell even I have my doubts, for me Speilburg has not really had a good film since Shindlers list and whatever came in between was either okay [saving private Ryan] or didnt impress me at all [AI]

I just dont know

but in the ORIGINAL storyline the aliens did not plan thier invsion for a thousand years, it was more of a recent venture [say at least 100 years of planning]

also remember that the book was made in the 1800's [1898 to be more concise]... not in 2005, not 1995, hell not even 1953... or 1938.

this was a time of posibility, when sci fi was in its infancy...
there were no A Bombs, N bombs or even Q bombs.
there were no airplanes, no tanks... all of that had not been invented yet.

always remember that HG Wells was a man way ahead of his time, and when he wrote the original book it was a hell of a surprise to everyone.


but now lets look at today:
today movies like Indipendance day have taken the world by the balls and have shown them the way alien flicks have become after the war of the worlds, big budget films with loads of explosions.
but war of the worlds wasnt meant to be like thtat, about big explosions and such... it was about survival.
even Signs had this, no explosions... just survival.
by all costs Signs is more dedicated to War of the worlds then ID4 is, it was about how the everyday man would deal with something like a large invasion.

now to call the ending of war of the worlds stupid [the whole aliens die because of bacteria plot] kind of makes you look stupid... sorry to say.

I know you have been spoiled by ID4 and the like
but as I said there were no computers in Wells time, no magical way of killing all the aliens and have humans win by some messed up way.
if anything it was ID4 that had the stupid ending, a computer virus is fine but for the humans to get into the alien operating system so easily seems so redicculus... unless the aliens ran on windows 95 :P


War of the worlds had a secnse of realisim... well at least the book

I HIGHLY suggest you all read it before totally dismissing the movie and the name "war of the worlds"
and see the books true meaning

Craig
07-02-2005, 01:17 PM
I have yet to see this movie, but that isn't the point of the post.

I read the book a few years ago in school, and vaguely remember a point being made that although to us the Alien Invasion is horrific and terrible, to the Aliens themselves it's like killing Ants.

So I ask this, is a child purpously stepping on an ant no better than the Aliens?

Is the hunting to extinction of the Dodo the same thing?

Do you think if we were to discover new primative life on a planet, and in comparison, us humans were to these primative aliens, as the aliens in the book/movie were to us, would we invade them and destroy them given the motives, just the same as happened to us in the book/movie?

Rusty
07-02-2005, 04:58 PM
I'm going to see it tomorrow. I've read all your posts and it sounds like a good movie, worth watching. But it sounds scary. Is it scary? Like nightmare after watching it scary?

Vivi288
07-02-2005, 10:55 PM
no its not nightmare like scary... unless youre frightenened of robots... then you might have nightmares... i didnt think it was scary... made me jump a little, but not out of fear, out of suprise! the most annoying thing about this film has to be Dakota Fanning.... at first she is all smart and some of the stuff she says is sort of funny, but then she continually screams through the film.... which is really annoying... i havent ever heard a 10 year old scream so much! but you should go and see it, its not that scary, although you might jump a couple of times!

Chaos
07-02-2005, 11:32 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing it, but the things that are putting me off are the fact its set in modern day America and from what I've heard its about a guy trying to save his Kids?
And it has jets and shotguns.

So from what I've seen it doesn't stay true to the original text at all and to me seems like a comerciallised Hollywood souless picture.

Is it like this?

I wanted 1800's action!
"I say old chap, if it isnt one of those blasted Alien fiends."
"Well, that is a bit rum, isn't it?"
"Rather...he's interupted high tea. Barnabus, be a stout fellow and give the cad the thrashing of a lifetime, theres a good man."

If only....

Chaos

Vivi288
07-02-2005, 11:38 PM
urm yea, theres guns n tanks... not sure about jets though... dont remember them, ahh well! yea its basically focused on tom cruise tryin 2 save his kids from the aliens, rather than whats happening all over the world... but hey its hollywood, its what i expected... i wouldnt think its tht close to the original text, i think its definitly an updated version.. so if your a fan of the original (not that i have read it) im not sure you would be a fan....

Craig
07-02-2005, 11:41 PM
i havent ever heard a 10 year old scream so much!

Maybe not, but then it isn't every day earth gets ripped apart by Aliens is it.

And Chaos, although I'm sure there is some Hollywoodization in there, I think the idea of it being set in the present is to show how helpless we would be if it really happened.

Vivi288
07-02-2005, 11:49 PM
have you seen the film?? its the high pitched squeal of a scream.... it annoyed me anyway.... but its a good film, dont get me wrong on that, i just thought her scream was over the top...

Craig
07-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Nope, I plan on seeing it tommorow though.

Chaos
07-02-2005, 11:59 PM
Ah right, well, I may well see it. Who konws. :D

Chaos

Craig
07-03-2005, 12:07 AM
If I don't see it tommorow, heads will roll.

Deshwitat_Rudbich
07-03-2005, 12:37 AM
I saw this movie yesterday on wenesday and man It was pretty good if you've seen it what do you think also um I didn't get it why did they attack the earth?
because they planned the attack long before the humans even existed and they where harvesting them ok.

Captain Maxx Power
07-03-2005, 03:26 PM
I wanted 1800's action!


Me too. All I could think was "how would this be different in the original?"

"I say Reginald, it appears as though there was an Electro Magnetic Pulse"
"Good job we don't have any electrical products, ay Barnaby?"
"Rather, but Mr. Edison will be most vexed"

"Now look here you bloody aliens. You can't just go about tearing up Her Majesty's road like this! It's very rude!"

And of course the Crashed Plane Scene

"My word! It appears as though our gyrocopter's fallen out of the sky!"
"Well we were only two feet off the ground!"
"Quite"

Slothy
07-03-2005, 06:46 PM
And Chaos, although I'm sure there is some Hollywoodization in there, I think the idea of it being set in the present is to show how helpless we would be if it really happened.

I'd say your right on there. Let's face it, aliens invading 1800's earth wouldn't even be interesting because nothing but an act of god would be able to save them. Modern man is so secure in technologies ability to solve all our problems however that when we find that our technology can't do squat, we can realize just how vulnerable we are.

Let's face it, if someone were to build a time machine, a military force with modern technology could conquer 1800's earth in probably a matter of months, if that.

Pauten
07-03-2005, 08:32 PM
I saw it yesterday and i loved it.
The scene where they attack the boats was so sad I though.

darkchrono
07-04-2005, 12:01 AM
actually it would probably be a matter of weeks instead of a matter of months.

The film definitely does have its issues. Mainly the fact that they chose to set it in modern day earth and did not really change the 100 year old story much at all to compensate for it.

One thing I do kind of wonder though is in the original book is the reason the earth's armies could not do anything against those machines was because of some force field that they could not penetrate. Because that is the reason they gave in the movie as to why our armies were so hapless against them (which was the same reason they gave in ID4).

You'd think they would be able to come up with a different reason as to why our technology does not work against the aliens rather than just the fact that they have some force field surrounding their ships that our weapons can't penetrate.

So with the way the movies put it. I guess all we would need to do to take over an alien planet is to create a forcefield around a couple of our planes and tanks and drop them off onto the planet and have them destroy everything in sight. And the aliens wouldn't be able to fight back because they wouldn't be able to get past our forcefield.

It's just so simple ;) ;)

Craig
07-04-2005, 12:41 AM
I just got back from watching it and, man am I impressed.

Once they got into the basement it kinda slowed down, but all the destruction scenes were immense. Not because it was fun watching things blow up, but just watching how easily we were being killed.

When the first Tripod came out and started killing everyone I felt really sad, just watching everyone running for their lives in terror while this big robot ripped through them with it's heat ray effortlessly as they disintegrated.

Also, the Car seen made me sad too. When the guy stole the car and began to drove away in it and got shot by someone else, I could've cried right there.

crashNUMBERS
07-04-2005, 01:42 AM
My mom's seeing it today but Im at home. Didn't feel like going. Too much tom cruise for me, I guess. But yeah, Tom is a great actor...

darkchrono
07-04-2005, 08:57 AM
another big hole that I thought about. Which you probably do not want to read if you havn't seen it yet, so.

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The Force field which was keeping the aliens invincible throughout the entire movie. Well how and why does that force field suddenly dissapear once the aliens get sick and we are suddenly able to use our weapons against them.

Nothing in the movie was ever remotely said as to how that force field dissapeared.

Craig
07-04-2005, 11:01 AM
I guess the Aliens were too sick too keep it going, when that last Alien fell out of his tripod he could hardly move.

Itsunari 2000
07-04-2005, 02:34 PM
Scenes of MAYHEM and DESTRUCTION - :)

TERROR ie. Ferry Scene - :)

Aliens - :)

TOM CRUISE _ :cool:

Suspense :)

Dakota Fanning screaming and whining - :grumble:

Angst-ridden snot-nosed punk - :mad:

Angst-ridden snot-nosed punk getting mauled by mob :D

Relocation to present day :)

Old Manus
07-04-2005, 04:18 PM
I saw it on Saturday, and it was great. Shame about the cow's arse of an ending.

The main thing I found bad was the many questions that lay unanswered at the end.

SPOILERS

1. What were they (aliens) doing on Earth anyway?
2. Tripods buried for thousands of years? Why not invade then?
3. What was with those vein-type things that lay all over the floor in the last half of the film.
4. Son runs into warzone. Warzone explodes. SUVs go flying. Son survives. W.T.F.
5. Why oh why did he kill that old man?

That is all.

The Man
07-04-2005, 04:43 PM
He killed the old man because he was stark raving mad and probably would've given their location away to the aliens. The other stuff didn't make any sense though, you're right, though #1 and (I believe) #2 are explained by the book. As for the vein stuff, I have no idea about it. I assumed it was blood at first but blood definitely doesn't act like that.

Craig
07-04-2005, 04:59 PM
Actually, #2 doesn't even happen in the book. In the book, the Aliens and all their tripods come down from space and cause mayhem. They don't come down from space and get in their tripods which were buried underground.

I think it was quite logical for the son to have survived though. He told Ray that he wanted to see it and ran up to the top of the hill. That was a pretty big explosion but I don't remember it coming past the hill. He probably got a little way in saw that something was going to cause the explosion ran for it, along with the rest of the soldiers then hitched a ride with the soldiers to Boston.

As for Boston being intact, by the time the Aliens had reached that area they were already feeling the effects of the Bacteria in the air and were probably half dead which made them lose control of their tripods, and force fields. Which is why Boston didn't take much, if any damage.

Sure the ending was quite happy and based on a large ammount of luck on Ray and his family's part. But it does make sense.

It's also true to the book which sees the Narrator being reunited with his family which he thought to be dead.

Shoden
07-04-2005, 05:29 PM
ok the movie is <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ing excellent

the SFX brilliant the story great most of it was great i must read the book.

ok those veins were human blood which was processed through the aliens so it was just parts of the aliens and hyumans scattered and the effects on the planet caused it to form i think it was to alter the atmosphere for the aliens to survive

Tricia
07-04-2005, 05:42 PM
Apparently, this movie was suppose to convert you into Scientology(ahemTOMCRUISE'SRELIGIONahem).

They want you to convert to Scientology, so when E.T.'s relatives arrives and destroys the Earth, they're gonna spare your life, because you're a scientologist.

XxSephirothxX
07-04-2005, 05:44 PM
I'm going to see it in a couple hours, but I have a feeling I'll like it a lot more than the movie they released in the 1950s or 60s, whenever it came out. Still, I'm sure the changes from the book will bug me. If I recall, the British army was able to take out a few "tripods" with simply a heavy cannon, so the Alien's power has obviously been amped up a bit.

Shoden
07-04-2005, 06:03 PM
no the force fields don't allow that they are invincible killing machines but the vulnrable thing is the alien pilots

Shauna
07-04-2005, 06:05 PM
I saw this the other day, and I really enjoyed it! I've seen the original... but I haven't read the book... I really should read the book.

I don't get why people don't like the ending...

Is it cause it isn't full to the brim of Aliens getting blown out of the sky?
Truthfully, I really enjoyed the ending. Everything the humans did to try and destroy them failed, really, they had been defeated. And, the things that they had become immune to, the bacteria that doesn't harm them, killed the aliens. I just think that is amazing.

OK, One question!

Why, when Tom Cruise was about to be swallowed or whatever by the alien, did the guy try to save him? There must have been plenty of people before then, who got 'swallowed'. I mean, 5 mins before he was taken in, a guy was taken up.
Why wasn't there any: 'HOLD ONTO ME! I'LL SAVE HIM!'? It was only when Tom was getting taken away... Blah

Craig
07-04-2005, 06:06 PM
I'm going to see it in a couple hours, but I have a feeling I'll like it a lot more than the movie they released in the 1950s or 60s, whenever it came out. Still, I'm sure the changes from the book will bug me. If I recall, the British army was able to take out a few "tripods" with simply a heavy cannon, so the Alien's power has obviously been amped up a bit.

The reason the power of the Tripods has been amped is because if they left them as powerful as they were in the book we'd have a fighting chance with our current technology.

Yuna: I think it's because he saw Ray jump onto his daughter to save her and then get sucked in himself.

Or that just gave a good reason for Ray to destroy a Tripod. Whatever takes your fancy.

Tricia
07-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Why, when Tom Cruise was about to be swallowed or whatever by the alien, did the guy try to save him? There must have been plenty of people before then, who got 'swallowed'. I mean, 5 mins before he was taken in, a guy was taken up.
Why wasn't there any: 'HOLD ONTO ME! I'LL SAVE HIM!'? It was only when Tom was getting taken away... Blah
Because it's either the guy was gay and fall in love with Tom Cruise... or because Tom was the main star of the movie. Folks, it's just a movie.

darkchrono
07-04-2005, 11:51 PM
The reason people don't like the ending is because while these aliens were supposedly so technologically advanced and had studied us for so long they still for some reason failed to realize that they would need a gas mask in order to survive. That concept would work back in the 1800's when we really didn't know all that much about germs or how to protect ourselves against them yet. But in today's technology that concept doesn't really work anymore. And they should have changed the ending around a bit when they decided to set the movie in modern day.


Really, the movie would have been much more believable and not nearly as many people would be griping about it if they just changed two things around. The ending and the fact that they hid those machines underground for so long and for some reason we never discovered them up to that point.

If they did not have it that way in the book I wonder why in the world Spielberg decided to have it that way that the aliens hid them underground. I'm sure he knew that that would not be believable in modern times and would detract alot of people from seeing the movie once they found out how silly some of the plot holes are.

And just on a side note. The alien technology really isn't all that advanced in the movie. The only thing that really makes them appear so powerful is that force field that they have surrounding them that our weapons of today cannot penetrate. But I will bet in a good 100 years (maybe less) we will have weapons that are just as powerful as the weapons the aliens used in the movie.

I would guess that there is about the same amount of difference between the alien technology and us in the movie. As there would be between our technology of today and the technology of World War I.

Shoden
07-04-2005, 11:56 PM
well Ray had grenades he had a plan and daughter and theres a thing about main chars almost never die

Sunny Rabbiera
07-05-2005, 04:50 AM
man stop complaining about the ending folks....
what did you want another stupid ID4?
a big american "come up from behind" victory?


GAH!

Miriel
07-05-2005, 08:05 AM
I really didn't mind the deus ex machina ending. What left me unsatisfied was the fact that Robbie (a 14 year old boy) was able to not only survive walking into a freakin' firestorm of destruction, but was able to then perform the same extraordinary superhuman feats of survival that Ray was able to pull off. He even manage to do it faster than his father and beat him to Boston. What, how?

It seems almost like a compulsion with Spielberg to resolve every story with sickeningly happy endings. I don't care if that's how the book ended, it completely voided the impact of Ray's choice to let his son go in order to save his daughter. Total cop-out.

Jack
07-05-2005, 09:48 AM
I hated Robbie living too. I actually shouted at the end when that happened I was so angry because it makes Ray's struggle utterly meaningless and him foolish comapred to his son which I loathed since the start because he was stereotypical broken home teen, which I dislike on a good day.

In good news, the film was action-packed and the aliens were scary and the siren striked fear everytime you heard it. The fact we only saw what Ray saw, and that was the utter destruction of everyone. The bit on the ferry was excellent.
I thought Dakota was good in her role, out acting the Cruiser at times.

A great film, but that ENDING... Arghhhhh.

Boosk
07-05-2005, 11:13 PM
I have just got back from seeing it....OMG OMG OMG!!! I was so in awe over this film....It was soooo intence! not by the fact it was scary or emotionly moving but just how it was filmed!! It captured EVERYTHING!! And the little girl!! (i forget her name but shes the girl in Speilburgs Alien series Taken and she ROCKS!!!!!!!!!) man she can act! Cant wait 2 see her in future films! and tom cruise!! Can he get any sexier?!
And did anyone else find the noise they made reeeeeaaalll freaky? It was a bit like close encounters...when the ship lands...

Yeah the ending did suck but ive seen worse!
I LOVED it all 2 gether and im sooooo going to see it again! and if you havent seen it...What are you thinking?! Go! Go and see it now!!!

Kagga brrrrrrrrrbrrrrrbb!!

Old Manus
07-06-2005, 07:30 AM
Was every sentence there an exclamation?

Rase
07-06-2005, 07:45 AM
Was every sentene there an exclamation?


I have just got back from seeing it....OMG OMG OMG!!! I was so in awe over this film....It was soooo intence! not by the fact it was scary or emotionly moving but just how it was filmed!! It captured EVERYTHING!! And the little girl!! (i forget her name but shes the girl in Speilburgs Alien series Taken and she ROCKS!!!!!!!!!) man she can act! Cant wait 2 see her in future films! and tom cruise!! Can he get any sexier?!
And did anyone else find the noise they made reeeeeaaalll freaky? It was a bit like close encounters...when the ship lands...

Yeah the ending did suck but ive seen worse!
I LOVED it all 2 gether and im sooooo going to see it again! and if you havent seen it...What are you thinking?! Go! Go and see it now!!!

Kagga brrrrrrrrrbrrrrrbb!!

Nope. :D

Anyway, I thought it was a great movie, and I liked the whole thing. I was still wondering about some things afterwards, but my friend who's read the book explained it all so I was happy. :)

Tricia
07-06-2005, 08:37 AM
War of the Worlds' beginning was good. Then, War of the Worlds' ending was crap. It's ending was unreal. That's a positive, and a negative... equals... a negative. :(

Necronopticous
07-06-2005, 08:44 AM
That's a positive, and a negative... equals... a negative. :(I would say something like this would be an additive property rather than multiplicative. In your logic, a movie with two horrible things and no saving grace would be a positive. Now that we've established that, it lies on whether the positives are greater than the negatives, which I think they full and well are. Beside, when I said I hated the ending, I didn't mean the way the aliens died, since that is consistent with the book and fine all the same, but rather the way that everyone who should have been dead was alive and how the family looked like it just woke up on Christmas morning when everything around them was trashed.

I really loved the movie, there were very few things that I thought needed improvement.

Shauna
07-06-2005, 10:30 AM
but rather the way that everyone who should have been dead was alive and how the family looked like it just woke up on Christmas morning when everything around them was trashed.

Yea, I mean, that bit confused the hell outta me. I mean... The whole of Boston was totally wrecked, and they look like nothings happened to them. And how the son survived...

Yea, I hated that too... :D

Boosk
07-06-2005, 05:21 PM
Was every sentene there an exclamation?

nope but i am very excited about the film!(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Kagga :love:

Sunny Rabbiera
07-07-2005, 02:58 AM
Okay just got back from the film and I must say that I liked it for the most part... but it was lacking something that the 1953 film had...

as a person who has not only read the book, but also have an audio of the Orson Welles 1938 broadcast, seen the 1953 film and proudly owns a copy of Jeff Wayne's awesome Musical I must say that this film was good... but it was missing something: a better lead up to the invasion and not end it on such a happy note...

In the ORIGINAL story the aliens arrived in large cylinders and we got to see how they arrived here...
but we are supposed to believe they hid their ships beneath the ground and they arrived in lightning?
I think Spielberg should have given more elaboration.
now true to the book Spielberg did end the film with the aliens dying of viruses, but its after this is where I think most people were teed off...
that Tom Cruises "son" [Robbie] miraculously survived the ordeal on the hill during the middle of the film, it was like "oh joy the aliens died of a virus, and look Robbie survived!"
GAH!

was this a good film though? yes
was it true to the book? a bit more then the 1953 film
did it have good special effects? yes
was it better then the 1953 film? no

sure the 1953 film had its flaws, but what makes it better is the lead up to the story and it handled the ending better as well, also the blasting of the tripod at the end of the film seemed too ID4 in the new Spielburg film.

was the 1953 film true to the novel? not 100% but I can understand that
did it have good special effects? for its time, yes
was it better then the new film? you bet your ass, though it still had its flaws.

still in the end I say this: if you dont like the new film or the 1953 fim, then pick up the book... it is lightyears a lot better then anything Hollywood can <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> out

Shoden
07-08-2005, 05:17 PM
the 1953 version bored me too much sure it followed the story but the character and alien images were all wrong and again the setting was wrong

Sunny Rabbiera
07-08-2005, 06:52 PM
well is almost the same thing with the new film...

and nither film was set in victorian England, or did the aliens looked like what they did in the book...

I am sorry but what you said is a poor excuse for disliking the 1953 film, outside it was made before 1990 as I KNOW most people of this age dislike the films of old

Shoden
07-08-2005, 07:21 PM
i've sat through it all the images of the setting and the aliens were rubbish it was all old fashioned terror you just didn't seem to be lifted by it i'm saying it's only fairly good i'm reading the book and the 1953 version had the better intro of the aliens but wasn't as traumatic. I can only comment on a film i've seen all the way through

GooeyToast
07-08-2005, 07:49 PM
Hmmm....

I still wanna check it out.

Maybe I'll see it when it goes to the dollar theater.