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Syncopationist
07-02-2005, 12:38 PM
When Cloud lands in the cathedral after the fight with the techno-soldier in reactor 5, he has a conversation in his mind with someone. Does anyone have any theories on who this person is? I have thought it through and can't think of any candidates at all. The person obviously knows Cloud (back then, you could get away with just scraped knees.) and is obviously a friend, so it's not Sephiroth or Jenova speaking through Jenova's cells. Anyone care to theorise?

Kawaii Ryűkishi
07-02-2005, 12:45 PM
It's Cloud's true self. Pretty obvious, really, especially considering all the scenes where you can plainly see him talking to a transparent version of himself.

Syncopationist
07-02-2005, 03:09 PM
I see. Thankyou!

Holy_Aeris
07-02-2005, 03:15 PM
Yea, apart from Aeris talking, you coud say its the 'real Cloud' talking to him

boys from the dwarf
07-02-2005, 07:59 PM
its definetly clouds true concience and all that stuff.

MAS82587
07-02-2005, 09:16 PM
lets wait for squall of seed to respond to this ;)

Ageless_Bum
07-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Heh, are you trying to say SoS has some kind of reputation?

Masamuneˇ1600
07-02-2005, 09:30 PM
The question's been analyzed (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60170).

boys from the dwarf
07-02-2005, 10:18 PM
yes SoS does have a rep for knowing everything and making long posts which i can hardly ever be bothered to read.

Saiyan Knight
07-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Its his mind i'd say.

blackchocobo9999
07-03-2005, 09:04 PM
its cloud true self (or his jimmani krikit)
Also in the conversation there is aeris and clouds outter body sort of

Teek
07-03-2005, 10:49 PM
It's Red XIII. His race is telepathatic.

-N-
07-03-2005, 11:56 PM
>_<

Ohhh
07-15-2005, 07:16 PM
Thx for clearin that up, i thought it was his mom! dnt ask how i got that conclusion....

Sword
07-15-2005, 07:25 PM
It is actually Jenova. This happens because Cloud was injected with Jenova's cells. It is clearly given away when it says something (cant remember what) at the part where Aeris dies.

General-Beatrix
07-15-2005, 08:10 PM
It is actually Jenova. This happens because Cloud was injected with Jenova's cells. It is clearly given away when it says something (cant remember what) at the part where Aeris dies.

Wouldn't Jenova then try to mess with his mind?

Ohhh
07-15-2005, 08:22 PM
Come to think of it, didnt (if the grey voice is jenova) she try to mess with his head at the promised land when hojo was talkin to him and cloud was floating around in the air?

It would make more sense for it to be the "real" cloud talkin to him... by the way there is no clone of cloud is there? because at one point (at the promised land) he tells Tifa "Im sorry. I hope one day you can meet the real Cloud" so does that mean... omg im spinnin myself out *shuts up*

nik0tine
07-15-2005, 09:29 PM
It's Red XIII. His race is telepathatic.
This is correct.

sayen
07-16-2005, 12:28 AM
the voice is jenova when. aeris dies jenova/sephiroth goes "because you " then after the jenova death fight jenova says "are a puppet". at north crater jenova is controlling cloud because cloud dosent know he can float/flie like sephirtoh/jenova can.

Squall of SeeD
07-16-2005, 05:38 AM
It's not JENOVA or Sephiroth. They -- or at least Sephiroth -- would want to destroy Cloud's mental stability, not reinforce it, which is what his subconscious wanted. The voice tells him to do things like ask Tifa about what happened five years ago. It wanted him to remember the truth. Remembering the truth made his mind stronger, something Sephiroth wouldn't want.

The voice is his subconscious. This has been proven beyond all argument:

http://www.geocities.com/ff7analysis/Voice.html