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Tidus5
07-07-2005, 01:00 AM
I found this article the other day and just wanted to see what everyone else thought of it.

Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it may not be able to recoup.

According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately 54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.

Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.

Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.

By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299 in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.

It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.

However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into development and production for the Cell chip alone.

Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no matter what."

"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."

By Staff -- GameSpot

Personally, I am still going to buy a PS3.
Now discuss!!

Maxico
07-07-2005, 01:50 AM
First of all take note that this is an estimation by a different company.

Also we've had to pay that much for consoles in Europe (Well the UK at least) for the last few generations. Get over it.

XxSephirothxX
07-07-2005, 03:37 AM
I don't see why you're telling him to "get over it" when he wasn't really complaining about the price. Anyway, that's about what I'd expect. Microsoft lost something like 100 or 150 dollars per Xbox when it was launched, so for a next-gen system that price range seems pretty reasonable.

Tidus5
07-07-2005, 03:37 AM
im not upset. I am planning on going to buy a PS3 the first day it comes out no matter what. I was only throwing this out there for discussion.

Winter Nights
07-07-2005, 03:54 AM
I'm wondering why anyone thinks Merrill Lynch would know jack about which system is going succeed? And if Gamespot honestly thinks XBox 360 is going to overtake PS3, when XBox 360 is supposed to debut later this year and has NO new 3rd-party support OR heavy hitting games lined-up.. That's pretty stupid.

Tidus5
07-07-2005, 03:57 AM
I agree. I want to know what kind of connection Merrel Lynch has with Sony... if any. I still dont think that any of us are truly going to whine about the price when the time rolls around for PS3 to come out. The excitement and the hype are going to win this one.

DJZen
07-07-2005, 04:46 AM
I'll whine about the price, but then again, I've never paid more than $120 for a console, and I think even that is climbing higher on the price ladder than I'd care to go. :D

I'm no cheap bastard or anything, I just don't see the point in paying out the a** for something when I can get it for MUCH cheaper in 6 months. *hugs Dreamcast*

edczxcvbnm
07-07-2005, 04:50 AM
Sony has proven time and time again that their first 2 years of a system SUCKS! I will wait 2 years to buy one at a cheaper price. PS2 was very troublesome in the beginning and same with the PSX. I have not heard great things about the PSP but it is still new. Maybe the PSP is actually well built but I have heard reports or weird things. No real break downs but design defects for sure.

ZeZipster
07-07-2005, 07:20 PM
The only design defect I've noticed is a couple of dead-pixels, and I do use my PSP alot.

kikimm
07-07-2005, 07:40 PM
I don't really love the price, but I'm going to get one anyway. And that's exactly what those people want, so we're all playing right into their hands! Yay.


:D

edczxcvbnm
07-07-2005, 09:51 PM
The only design defect I've noticed is a couple of dead-pixels, and I do use my PSP alot.

There have been things such as discs poping out and bad disc drives. It is their best work to be sure but that doesn't say much.

KoShiatar
07-08-2005, 01:03 PM
I'll whine about the price, but then again, I've never paid more than $120 for a console, and I think even that is climbing higher on the price ladder than I'd care to go. :D

I'm no cheap bastard or anything, I just don't see the point in paying out the a** for something when I can get it for MUCH cheaper in 6 months. *hugs Dreamcast*

Same as I'm planning to do. Also, if there is any bug or flaw in the first consoles, they'll have the time to fix it.

GooeyToast
07-08-2005, 08:01 PM
I'm in no huge rush to buy 1.

All the best games it seems come out at the end of a console's life-cycle, so I'll have plenty tp keep me busy over the next year or so.