Armor question

[0mNiS|aSh]

I've been something of a lurker in here for a few years now, I don't suppose anyone remembers me anymore, but I have a question nonetheless.

Replaying VII once more after a long time of no access to it, I'm trying to get the Hell Knight materia combo. I'm currently just slaying Movers to up my materia, and I was wondering if there are any triple growth armors in the game, and if not, where to find some double growth ones with a decent amount of slots.

Thanks in advance.

[Cruise Control]

No, rune bracers are the bebst double growth armors, I'm in the crater and I still use them, you can buy them somewhere.

[Rengori]

If you can take the pain of two linked materia spots, one of Vincent's weapons has Triple Growth rate. I got 3 mimes that way :D.

[Cruise Control]

Or cids mop, or rune edge for cloud is good for early on. I DONT reccomend using edincoat, I was like, why isn't my materia growing?!

[0mNiS|aSh]

Cid has a mop?

also, where to buy rune bracers? Anyone?


If you can take the pain of two linked materia spots, one of Vincent's weapons has Triple Growth rate. I got 3 mimes that way .

Apocalypse has 3, doesn't it? I'm using Barret, Cloud and Cid right now, and only Cid has a triple weapon as of yet. I figured I'd take a break from the storyline and get ready for Ultima weapon before getting Apoc

[Rengori]

Sorry, did I say Vincent? I meant Cid. I don't know how taht happened.

[Cruise Control]

Buy them in Bone Village, It's actually Rune Armlet

[Kappy]

What is this Hell Knight materia combo?

[KoShiatar]

Cid's mop has no materia slots. There is a weapon for Cid that has triple materia growth, though, and it should be the Scimitar.

[Cruise Control]

Oopsy, usually the weird ones are triple growth.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Double/triple growth weapons for...

Aeris
Wizard Staff: Found on the Mt. Corel Railroad Track, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 1,800 gil.
Attack: 28
Attack %: 100
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double

Wiser Staff: Received after defeating Gi Nattack (Cave of the Gi) or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,200 gil.
Attack: 33
Attack %: 100
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Barret
W Machine Gun: Found on the Mt. Corel Railroad Track, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,000 gil.
Attack: 30
Attack %: 100
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Drill Arm: Found in Cid's House (Rocket Town), or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,300 gil.
Attack: 37
Attack %: 97
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Cait Sith
Black M-Phone: Found in the Cave of the Gi (Cosmo Canyon), or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,800 gil.
Attack: 31
Attack %: 104
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

White M-Phone: Found in a house in Gongada, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,300 gil.
Attack: 35
Attack %: 102
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double

Cid
Viper Halberd: Found in the Corral Valley, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 7,000 gil.
Attack: 58
Attack %: 102
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Javelin: Found Inside Gaea's Cliff (Disc 2).
Attack: 62
Attack %: 104
Materia Slots: O=O O=O O
Growth: Double

Scimitar: Found in the Underwater Reactor at Junon during the quest for the Huge Materia (Disc 2).
Attack: 86
Attack %: 102
Materia Slots: O=O
Growth: Triple

Cloud
Force Stealer: Given to you by Heideggar for getting 100+ points when performing for Rufus at the Junon Docks (Disc 1), or bought in North Corel for 2,200 gil.
Attack: 36
Attack %: 100
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double

Rune Blade: Found in the Nibelheim Mountains, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,800 gil.
Attack: 40
Attack %: 108
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Apocalypse: Found in the Ancient Forest (Cosmo Canyon).
Attack: 88
Attack %: 110
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Triple
Special Bonuses: Spirit +16

Red XIII
Magic Comb: Received after the first victory at Fort Condor (Disc 1), or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,000 gil.
Attack: 37
Attack %: 100
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double

Plus Barrette: Found on Mt. Nibel, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,500 gil.
Attack: 39
Attack %: 104
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Tifa
Motor Drive: Found in the Shinra Villa (Costa Del Sol).
Attack: 27
Attack %: 106
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double

Powersoul: Found in Mt Nibel, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 4,200 gil.
Attack: 28
Attack %: 106
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Platinum Fist: Found in Tifa's House (Nibelheim) or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,700 gil.
Attack: 30
Attack %: 108
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Vincent
Peacemaker: Found in a house in Kalm, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,500 gil.
Attack: 38
Attack %: 118
Materia Slots: O=O O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Buntline: Dug up in Bone Village, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 6,800 gil.
Attack: 48
Attack %: 124
Materia Slots: O=O O=O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Yuffie
Wind Slash: Found on the Cargo Ship, or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 2,000 gil.
Attack: 30
Attack %: 103
Materia Slots: O O O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Twin Viper: Found in the Shinra Mansion (Nibelheim), or bought from Inner Junon (Disc 2 and 3) for 3,200 gil.
Attack: 36
Attack %: 108
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Rising Sun: Stolen from the Diamond Weapon (Midgar Area, Disc 2).
Attack: 68
Attack %: 108
Materia Slots: O=O O=O
Growth: Double
Notes: Long-range

Double growth armour...

Platinum Bangle: Bought from Inner Junon and Costa Del Sol for 1,800 gil.
Defence: 22
Defence %: 0
Magic Defence: 12
Magic Defence %: 0
Materia Slots: O O
Growth: Double

Rune Armlet: Bought from Bone Village for 3,700 gil.
Defence: 43
Defence %: 5
Magic Defence: 24
Magic Defence %: 0
Materia Slots: O O O O
Growth: Double

Hope that helps.

[chadwixx]

http://www.ffspirit.net/ff/7/armor

to see all the armors. what is the hell knight combo?

[Cruise Control]

Way to be off topic! (I have no clue)

[Rengori]

Actually, 0mNiS|aSh brought it up in the first post.

[Masamune·1600]

The Hell Knight materia combo refers to a materia set-up that requires 16 slots (the maximum possible), at least 14 of which must be linked.

It looks somehting like this, as I recall:

(Fire)=(Quadra Magic) (Fire)=(HP Absorb) (Fire)=(MP Absorb) (Fire)=(Added Cut)

(Fire)=(Magic Counter) (Fire)=(Steal as Well) (Fire)=(MP Turbo) (W-Magic) (Magic Plus)

The Fire materia are assumed to all be mastered, of course, since this would allow for repeated casting of Fire3. Ultimately, this set-up allows for Fire3 to be cast 8 times, each in conjunction with Steal as Well (8 steal attempts). Two physical attacks (Added Cut, with additional effect from W-Magic) are also included. Finally, the character absorbs HP and MP while going through with the combo.

Basically, its a common example of how using multiple types of Support Materia on a single type of Magic or Summon Materia allows for a character with excessive abilities. I'm not sure why the person who created this combination was so enamored with the Fire materia, but the overall intent and effect of Hell Knight is clear.

[Rengori]

Does Quadra Magic use MP?

[Masamune·1600]

No. Just as it doesn't cost extra MP to hit every enemy when linked to an All materia, it doesn't cost extra to replicate the spell with Quadra Magic. The effect of each of the four castings is weaker, but since it occurs four times, the overall damage is much higher. W-Magic does require you to pay for both spells, but again, Quadra Magic incurs no extra MP cost. Ultimately, you would get eight spells for the price of two, so to speak.

[Rengori]

So, assuming you've gone insane in the process, you could use this with KOTR as well.

[Masamune·1600]

Yes, with one major caveat. Quadra Magic does not work in conjunction with Knights of the Round. In other words, you would only be able to cast KotR twice. This also means you would only get two steal attempts. Nonetheless, the overall damage dealt would be much higher than the Hell Knight combo.

[ff-fanatix]

i vote we replace fire with ultima.....or death....call it a death knight.... :D

[Ohhh]

So is ther no weapons or armor that has triple growth? or any accessories with triple or double growth? *sigh* confuzzlin stuff...

[Rengori]

The Apoclypse for Cloud and the Scimitar for Cid both have triple growth rate. And accesories don't have materia slots so it would be a waste to put double or triple growth on those.

[Cruise Control]

Where do I get magic counter, and how do I get W-Magic, and where can I buy fire, in disc 3.

[BG-57]

Magic Counter: win as a prize in chocobo racing
W-Magic: treasure chest in the Northern Crater (final dungeon)
Fire: Mideel

[Cruise Control]

Can I dig up w-item in bone village, if I missed it?

[0mNiS|aSh]

as I recall, there are some missed items that can be found (very rare) in bone village. I grew very tired of BV when looking for the harp though, so I never bothered to return.

[Cruise Control]

I got it, dirt X, under mop.

[Cruise Control]

What would be better than ultima would be comet 2, couple this with a multi hit magic

[0mNiS|aSh]

there are many variations to the hell knight, but the basics are some fairly high-level, rare materia