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Dreddz
08-13-2005, 03:20 PM
well ?

Destai
08-13-2005, 06:05 PM
Because no one was interested.

Dreddz
08-13-2005, 07:15 PM
errrrmmm its Final Fantasy, lotz people would of got it. It was all over magazines, there was so much hype, then they announced that it would be released on the PC, why, there much more FF fans on the Console systems. Do they want UK feel like crap, WE NEVER GET ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet the game was on PS2 in America
Just another thing that pisses me off, I mean FFT was enough....

lordblazer
08-13-2005, 07:16 PM
I guess SE thought the brits wouldn't find interest in it. Since it isn't as sophisticated as UK tv.

Dreddz
08-13-2005, 07:18 PM
I guess SE thought the brits wouldn't find interest in it. Since it isn't as sophisticated as UK tv.
No, its because there ****s, end of....

Destai
08-13-2005, 07:23 PM
Alright Gibbi we get it, UK IS TEH SUXORS but giving out because one of the least popular FF games wasnt released on its least popular format is just being silly. Most people with PS2's who are FF fans would rather play it on a pc than going to the bother of buying the cables to enable there PS2's to function online. Majority FFXI players play on PC and only a minority of the japanese and american players play on there PS2's because it makes playing the game more inconvienient when it comes to entering text. The UK has less FF players than both of the other countries I mentioned and going to the bother of releasing it on PS2 when hardly anyone would play it would be a loss for Square Enix so they did the logical thing and didnt release it. You can still play it on the more popular and easier/better format so quit the whining.

UltimateSpamGrover
08-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Get the PC version.

Dreddz
08-13-2005, 07:49 PM
Im using a Mac....


quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over here

Destai
08-13-2005, 07:50 PM
Im using a Mac....Thats not Squares or the UK's fault.

lordblazer
08-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Alright Gibbi we get it, UK IS TEH SUXORS but giving out because one of the least popular FF games wasnt released on its least popular format is just being silly. Most people with PS2's who are FF fans would rather play it on a pc than going to the bother of buying the cables to enable there PS2's to function online. Majority FFXI players play on PC and only a minority of the japanese and american players play on there PS2's because it makes playing the game more inconvienient when it comes to entering text. The UK has less FF players than both of the other countries I mentioned and going to the bother of releasing it on PS2 when hardly anyone would play it would be a loss for Square Enix so they did the logical thing and didnt release it. You can still play it on the more popular and easier/better format so quit the whining.

Yeah pretty much releasing the PS2 version in the UK a place with less FF players is a bad move since they had more sales on the PC format.

It comes down to money.


Oh and if you use mac lol your lost but I think hold on is square selling a mac version on the net? I dunno lol. man .....lol the mac. I have two PC's one with Windows XP and the other with Linux.

Also a lot of japaneese software companies release more games in japan than any other country..lol.Its there given right to release games thats gonna give them to most sales which = profit. There are more people in the USA than tehre are in the UK. I mean the UK is the size of one of our states for crying out loud.

Dreddz
08-13-2005, 08:14 PM
I dont actually hate my Mac, it rocks for everything except for Games and ROMS, and its alot faster than my Windows XP that I dont own anymore
I will be getting another Laptop which I can use soon enough.....

lordblazer
08-13-2005, 08:15 PM
I dont actually hate my Mac, it rocks for everything except for Games and ROMS, and its alot faster than my Windows XP that I dont own anymore
I will be getting another Laptop which I can use soon enough.....
Linux pwns allll!!! linux is 1337

Destai
08-13-2005, 08:31 PM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.

lordblazer
08-13-2005, 08:35 PM
I had a chip for my playstation that allowed me to play japaneese games.Maybe theres a mod chip for american games or something.

Destai
08-13-2005, 08:37 PM
Maybe theres a mod chip for american games or something.There is by the way.

Shoeberto
08-13-2005, 08:46 PM
Just so you know, Gibbi, the PS2 version of FFXI sold so little here in the states that they took it off the shelves. In order to play it, you had to buy the $99 bundle that came with a hard drive, then you had to pay the monthly fee. Most people didn't think it was worth it.

MMORPGs are designed for the PC. Limitations on the consoles make it a bad venue for games of that sort.

Dreddz
08-13-2005, 10:05 PM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

Lionx
08-13-2005, 10:05 PM
You guys are all incorrect...

The only reason why they did not put the PS2 version over to the UK was because the newer slimmer PS2s did not support the HDD. The Slim PS2s replaced all the fat older ones before it was ready to be shipped to EU. Therefore there was no reason to put more support to the PS2 in EU when the slim PS2s do not support the HDD required to play it. It was planned i heard, but because of Sony's bright idea, it was scrapped. If you can ever find a fat PS2 and NTSC style, you can order an North American version from SE's official site that branches off elsewhere.

FFXI PROMOTES CROSSPLATFORM. They did not release the PS2 one in UK because it was pointless to do so. The same reason it was discontinued here was because of slim PS2s that did not support the required hardware.

The Japanese players play almost exclusively on the PS2, so while everyone else might play on PCs more, Japanese people, the majority by far play on PS2. To ignore PS2 entirely is the most stupidest move ever as a huge part of their playerbase use the PS2. However to get PS2 expansions and etc, you have to order online in SE's links/directories at their website.

Rostum
08-13-2005, 11:03 PM
Yeah, Sony don't support the PS2's HDD anymore, and Square-Enix saw this coming - so why continue to release it in other countries? Pointless.

Shoeberto
08-14-2005, 12:04 AM
The only reason why they did not put the PS2 version over to the UK was because the newer slimmer PS2s did not support the HDD. The Slim PS2s replaced all the fat older ones before it was ready to be shipped to EU.
Yeah, I forgot that the slim PS2s came out in Europe a before being launched here. That makes more sense.

lordblazer
08-14-2005, 12:42 AM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

lol that is insult to injury lol.Releasing Xenosaga 2 when they haven't even released XenoSaga 1. Dude you'll have to find Xenosaga 1 lol. I'm serious man. Theere are tons of stores that sell it. You might have to go to one of thos erare gaming stores and get an overpriced copy of Xenosaga 1.

Destai
08-14-2005, 01:28 AM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

lol that is insult to injury lol.Releasing Xenosaga 2 when they haven't even released XenoSaga 1. Dude you'll have to find Xenosaga 1 lol. I'm serious man. Theere are tons of stores that sell it. You might have to go to one of thos erare gaming stores and get an overpriced copy of Xenosaga 1.Actually theyll probably do what they did in the states and more than likely Japan and hand out a dvd of cutscenes from episode 1 for free (Well actually you had to pre order to get your hands on the DVD but still) Yes I've seen the Chocobo racing game on my FFVIII manual but I still dont see any reason that episode II wont be released here.

Lionx
08-14-2005, 01:30 AM
I do not think the Chocobo racing was out here too, and you can always download Xenosaga anime.

Well yeah no FFXI for PS2 anywhere but NTSC version >_>

Rostum
08-14-2005, 02:06 AM
Hmm, I had a NTSC english version of Chocobo Racing a long time ago. I think it was released in America.

But yeah, if you plan on getting FFXI - get the PC version, I know that came out in PAL.

DJZen
08-14-2005, 07:05 AM
Linux pwns allll!!! linux is 1337

Linux: Hey, it's not Windows!

Chocobo Racing was released in America, I played it about a year after it came out and decided I didn't really want to buy it after all.

As one of the 5 Americans who plays FFXI on the PS2, I can definitely say I like the game a lot and have fun playing it. That said, it was obviously developed with the PC in mind. Trust me, you're not missing out. The PS2 version was watered down and still runs at a choppy rate.

The funny thing is most people seem to think 32 bit systems produce worse graphics than 128 bit systems. :D

Lionx
08-14-2005, 08:39 AM
While PC might have been in mind, remember it was released to be on the PS2 first then after a while PC came out in Japan.

Dreddz
08-14-2005, 01:19 PM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

lol that is insult to injury lol.Releasing Xenosaga 2 when they haven't even released XenoSaga 1. Dude you'll have to find Xenosaga 1 lol. I'm serious man. Theere are tons of stores that sell it. You might have to go to one of thos erare gaming stores and get an overpriced copy of Xenosaga 1.Actually theyll probably do what they did in the states and more than likely Japan and hand out a dvd of cutscenes from episode 1 for free (Well actually you had to pre order to get your hands on the DVD but still) Yes I've seen the Chocobo racing game on my FFVIII manual but I still dont see any reason that episode II wont be released here.
Selling a DVD ? Cant they just give us Xenosaga I then Xenosaga II
I dont wanna watch cutscenes.., If they think that loadz people are going to buy Xenosaga II, then there wrong, who wants to play a game that they dont understand one bit, the sales of Xenosaga II will be much higher if they release Xenosaga I first, and they should also put Xenogears in the bundle too....
And LordBlazer, Ive seen nearly all the games I want in my shop down the road, Xenosaga, Xenogear, Chrono and all, but there all NTSC, so I cant play them

Destai
08-14-2005, 02:54 PM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

lol that is insult to injury lol.Releasing Xenosaga 2 when they haven't even released XenoSaga 1. Dude you'll have to find Xenosaga 1 lol. I'm serious man. Theere are tons of stores that sell it. You might have to go to one of thos erare gaming stores and get an overpriced copy of Xenosaga 1.Actually theyll probably do what they did in the states and more than likely Japan and hand out a dvd of cutscenes from episode 1 for free (Well actually you had to pre order to get your hands on the DVD but still) Yes I've seen the Chocobo racing game on my FFVIII manual but I still dont see any reason that episode II wont be released here.
Selling a DVD ? Cant they just give us Xenosaga I then Xenosaga II
I dont wanna watch cutscenes.., If they think that loadz people are going to buy Xenosaga II, then there wrong, who wants to play a game that they dont understand one bit, the sales of Xenosaga II will be much higher if they release Xenosaga I first, and they should also put Xenogears in the bundle too....
And LordBlazer, Ive seen nearly all the games I want in my shop down the road, Xenosaga, Xenogear, Chrono and all, but there all NTSC, so I cant play themIf you dontwant to watch cutscenes (or screens of text) then why on earth would you want Xenosaga I, II or Xenogears or plenty of RPG's. None of those games have slightly impressive gameplay as I understand it. If you're getting a windows laptop (I think you mentioned something about that in a post in this thread, maybe Im wrong) then you'll be able to play Chrono Trigger soon enough and if you're that bothered to play Chrono Cross chipping a PS2 or an old PS1. It'll work better than moaning over nothing online.

Mirage
08-14-2005, 03:40 PM
Hmm, I had a NTSC english version of Chocobo Racing a long time ago. I think it was released in America.

But yeah, if you plan on getting FFXI - get the PC version, I know that came out in PAL.
PC games don't have regional codings.

Dreddz
08-14-2005, 05:17 PM
quit the whining.
Do you know how many games were never released in UK
I mean I keep trying to find an RPG, but its only in America....And I cant use any ROMS so it sucks, I dont think Americans know how many games werent released..
And if the reason why they arent releasing stuff over here because theres not enough intrest, maybe theres no intrest because theres none of the games are released over hereYes I have a pretty fair idea as Im european myself and have in the past ranted about Xenosaga and Xenogears not being released here along with Chrono Cross and Trigger. In the end I downloaded a rom of Chrono Trigger and bought Xenosaga I and II on a DVD with all/most of the cutscenes. If you're that bothered then you can (easier than myself I imagine) get your PS2 chipped in a pc world or some place along those lines.

9/10 times we'll get the better RPG's around like Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia. The both sold fairly well over here and its likely theyll continue selling the series here with each new installment. Theres Baten Kaitos and Shadow Hearts around here. As well as .hack// and Xenosaga II is set for a release here also which will probably start the release of the Xeno series in Europe. Games get released later here? Yeah sure they have to be translated into several languages after all but we often get added features to our games. All in all we dont have it that bad.
Why are they going to release Xenosaga 2 here wen Xenosaga 1 never did ?
And it was only shown in the back of the Cataloge manual in the Tekken 5 box, and all it says is coming soon....
And..on one of my FF manuals, it mentioned Chocobo racing, and that was never released over here....

lol that is insult to injury lol.Releasing Xenosaga 2 when they haven't even released XenoSaga 1. Dude you'll have to find Xenosaga 1 lol. I'm serious man. Theere are tons of stores that sell it. You might have to go to one of thos erare gaming stores and get an overpriced copy of Xenosaga 1.Actually theyll probably do what they did in the states and more than likely Japan and hand out a dvd of cutscenes from episode 1 for free (Well actually you had to pre order to get your hands on the DVD but still) Yes I've seen the Chocobo racing game on my FFVIII manual but I still dont see any reason that episode II wont be released here.
Selling a DVD ? Cant they just give us Xenosaga I then Xenosaga II
I dont wanna watch cutscenes.., If they think that loadz people are going to buy Xenosaga II, then there wrong, who wants to play a game that they dont understand one bit, the sales of Xenosaga II will be much higher if they release Xenosaga I first, and they should also put Xenogears in the bundle too....
And LordBlazer, Ive seen nearly all the games I want in my shop down the road, Xenosaga, Xenogear, Chrono and all, but there all NTSC, so I cant play themIf you dontwant to watch cutscenes (or screens of text) then why on earth would you want Xenosaga I, II or Xenogears or plenty of RPG's. None of those games have slightly impressive gameplay as I understand it. If you're getting a windows laptop (I think you mentioned something about that in a post in this thread, maybe Im wrong) then you'll be able to play Chrono Trigger soon enough and if you're that bothered to play Chrono Cross chipping a PS2 or an old PS1. It'll work better than moaning over nothing online.
I dont mind Cutscenes, but I dont want to watch 3-4hrs of them in a row, I'd rather progress and have fun with the game..What possesed Namco that Releasing Xenosaga II was a good idea..
And yes, I have chrono Trigger and I am going to play it soon enough

Rostum
08-14-2005, 11:02 PM
Hmm, I had a NTSC english version of Chocobo Racing a long time ago. I think it was released in America.

But yeah, if you plan on getting FFXI - get the PC version, I know that came out in PAL.
PC games don't have regional codings.

You're right. I just meant it in a sense that it was released in Europe and Australia. But yes, I shouldn't have said NTSC or PAL.

lordblazer
08-15-2005, 04:43 AM
Why the heck do consoles have regional codings. (besides the fact that um europe runs on a different electrical current than the USA.) sorry my shift button won't work on my pc properly i might have to cleann it.


alright I Fixedd It.

DJZen
08-15-2005, 06:06 AM
Because console manufacturers hate you. That's basically what it boils down to. They want money more than loyalty. They don't want you playing games from another country because it might hurt the sales of the game if they ever bring it out. It's bull, really, but that's their reasoning. It's also the reason why many gamers have never played some of the most amazing games ever created.