FFIX Riddles v2.0

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

I'm thinkin that Lenna just wants us all to look stupid. "I'm as smart as I can be." Feh. There are multiple wa7s of interpreting that and I'm pretty sure all of us are not able to think them all up. I like it, really, but to have it go this far is just to much.:mad:

I would guess but all the ones I would've guessed have been taken.
If I had to guess anything...I would say...the book monster(Tantarian I believe).

And really, you are just making yourself look smarter by telling us to think like you when you should know that not many ppl can do that, since you are a complete individual than others. We can't get inside your brain and bring out the answer, or look through your eyes and see exactly what these lines mean.

[Ace14]

Is it Necron?

[Quindiana Jones]

Heero, the whole point of a riddle is for you to work it out. You need to try and see it from the writer's eyes. The harder a riddle is, the funner it is to work out in my opinion. So Lenna, don't give the answer (like they FORCED me to do with mine...).

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

That's because you made everything so complex in your mind that it came out to make no sense Pure Quin. :mad: Besides, you can't look through the writer's eyes. You can only get the gist of it. Once you find an answer for one, it contradicts another, which means you must think differently, but then again, there aren't many perspectives that you can take. And I gave my answer, I've guessed twice on this riddle so don't be tellin me to work it out, I have been and it's not because I'm wrong that I'm posting this.

[Quindiana Jones]

I bet Lenna would be able to figure out my riddles. It just shows that most people are too lazy to think complexly. Heh, say that three times.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Now, sir, don't be insulting others. You can do that at home where no one's listening. Just because you make complex riddles doesn't mean everyone can get them because it is your mind that made it, not ours. This means only oyu have complete understanding of every line and phrase. This is why if you are going make lines that you made up through a perspective you used, that doesn't mean everyone is able to see through that same perspective. And again, do not be insulting us. I haven't seen you get it right yet.

[Lenna]

Heero, I spent months trying to solve a riddle far harder than this, that even the best riddle-solvers on here couldn't solve. I, myself at that time, were quite ignorant to looking deeper than anything other than the words of the riddle. In your first post you actually said the word that links to the second line. You just don't look deep enough. There are many people on this forum who are actually looking to the right direction, but critisizing me for doing a good riddle that is challenging the mind is rediculous, as it is far better to challenge the mind than to give it something it doesn't even need to think in order to solve.

No one has got it so far but people are trying. Until everyone stops trying then they will have to stop completely before I give the answer.

Someone I know managed to get the answer straight when I showed him and he didn't want to post it because he didn't want to do a riddle and secondly he didn't want to let me down. So it isn't unsolvable.

You just need to think, look between the lines.

[Lost Number]

He is always like this. Wants the answer on the plate.
Malaris? :)

[Quindiana Jones]

Heero, I spent months trying to solve a riddle far harder than this, that even the best riddle-solvers on here couldn't solve. I, myself at that time, were quite ignorant to looking deeper than anything other than the words of the riddle. In your first post you actually said the word that links to the second line. You just don't look deep enough. There are many people on this forum who are actually looking to the right direction, but critisizing me for doing a good riddle that is challenging the mind is rediculous, as it is far better to challenge the mind than to give it something it doesn't even need to think in order to solve.

No one has got it so far but people are trying. Until everyone stops trying then they will have to stop completely before I give the answer.

Someone I know managed to get the answer straight when I showed him and he didn't want to post it because he didn't want to do a riddle and secondly he didn't want to let me down. So it isn't unsolvable.

You just need to think, look between the lines.

I love you...


He is always like this. Wants the answer on the plate.

...and I love you.

[Lenna]

nope:P

Well it's true Pure Quin, exercising the mind requires thinking. If it wasn't for Thingfish's riddle I would not be taking things alot more seriously than I do with word games etc now.

My mind was once quite blind to literal meanings and different sides to different stories etc, but now, as you can see, and even if you looked in the MORE RIDDLES! thread in FF7 you'd be able to see that I have a wider range of viewing now.

Challenging the mind is the best thing you could do. It makes you more aware and smarter at the same time. If you are ignorant to complexity then you will always remain ignorant unless you make an effort to look beyond the lines.

That's the only way you'll ever be able to understand a wider range of knowledge than you already know.

[Lost Number]

nope:P

Well it's true Pure Quin, exercising the mind requires thinking. If it wasn't for Thingfish's riddle I would not be taking things alot more seriously than I do with word games etc now.

My mind was once quite blind to literal meanings and different sides to different stories etc, but now, as you can see, and even if you looked in the MORE RIDDLES! thread in FF7 you'd be able to see that I have a wider range of viewing now.

Challenging the mind is the best thing you could do. It makes you more aware and smarter at the same time. If you are ignorant to complexity then you will always remain ignorant unless you make an effort to look beyond the lines.

That's the only way you'll ever be able to understand a wider range of knowledge than you already know.
Thingfish and Lenna are my inspiration in these riddles. MORE RIDDLES is closed now, though.

[Quindiana Jones]

I totally agree with you Lenna. Thinking exercises the mind. I love thinking things, except Sudoku's. I hate them. Though I'm amazing with crosswords and codewords :D
Suck at cryptic crosswords though....
Anyhoo! Not Malaris? Here's another thought by me.

I'm a master at arms
So I was right with the lots of arms.

I'm as smart as can be
I'm still thinking that this could mean clothing, or the way the answer talks or acts.

Though I have no good looks,
Literally? So this line implies the answer is uuuuuugly.

You can sure fight with me.
Once again. Dunno whether it's with or against. I'll go with against, because there's a higher chance it IS against.

[The Void]

Is it Cid?

1.He commands the Lindblum army
2.He's a Regent so he should be smart (intellecually and appearence wise)
3.He was a frog and oglop
4.He's on the side of Zidane and Co

[Lenna]

Again the Void - In this sense Smart doesn't mean Smart. You're actually looking for alternate ways of saying smart. That's another big hint for you. As for the ugly thing, this thing isn't necessarily ugly, it just doesn't have good looks ;) ugly is usually a term for other beings ;).

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

:whimper: Thanks for the insults. As you might be a good riddle-solver I believe you have no right to give me this wave of verbal confrontations as I have done nothing to you but give you my opinion on the riddle, not your person. I have made no atacks on anyone, just your riddle...:crying2:

[Lenna]

Critisizing a good, well written riddle is attacking someones knowledge and intelligence. Riddles are supposed to be challenging and hard, as riddles are not like General Knowledge / Forward answering questions. You are supposed to think in order to solve a riddle. A riddle is words twisted to reveal a different mind and manner of thinking. If you don't like a riddle that is doing what it's supposed to, and critisizing it, is attacking and insulting the riddle-maker. You are the only one complaining about the riddle. I am not insulting you, I am only telling you the literal truth of the matter.

For other uses, see Riddle (disambiguation).
A riddle is a form of word puzzle designed to test someone's ingenuity in arriving at its solution.
<--- see, your view of a riddle is silly. Maybe you should look at a dictionary next time. This isn't a quiz.

[The Void]

How about Zidane

1.He's a thief, so good with his arms
2.He's Quick-Minded. Anotherway of saying smart
3.He's a thief, so no-one respects him
4.He fight's all the time

[Lenna]

Still in reference to smart. This word has nothing to do with intelligence.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

So you say I am insulting you but you are not insulting me? I think you should lookat your post once again. Again, I am not saying I hate the riddle. Do you ppl even read the whole post or do you pick out things that you just want to see? I have tried your riddle so you can't say I am not trying or I am too lazy. Your even making my post into a riddle by twisting my words, like their is a deeper meaning. I suggest you just drop it.

[Ace14]

How about a hint?:D

[Avathar]

I'm a master at arms
So I was right with the lots of arms.

I'm as smart as can be
I'm still thinking that this could mean clothing, or the way the answer talks or acts.

Though I have no good looks,
Literally? So this line implies the answer is uuuuuugly.

You can sure fight with me.
Once again. Dunno whether it's with or against. I'll go with against, because there's a higher chance it IS against.

Gilgamesh?

[Quindiana Jones]

Heero, just shut up. If you don't like the riddle stop posting on the thread.

Lenna, alternate ways of saying smart? Do you mean that in "Go look in a thesaurus" kind of way?

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

DID I SAY I HATED THE RIDDLE?! I just put in my earlier post that didn't hate it. READ!!!

[Lost Number]

DID I SAY I HATED THE RIDDLE?! I just put in my earlier post that didn't hate it. READ!!!
Fine. Either way, stop bloody posting if not to bloody guess or otherwise enrich our understanding of the riddle! OK?

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

What are you guys doing? Huh? THE SAME THING!

Could smart be referring to a smart ass? Someone who always talks back or corrects everyone? So the person is a real smart aleck? I'm guessin on this one.

[Lenna]

Heero, just shut up. If you don't like the riddle stop posting on the thread.

Lenna, alternate ways of saying smart? Do you mean that in "Go look in a thesaurus" kind of way?

Maybe ;)

The word you find will give you a hint to what you are looking for (eg a name)

[Quindiana Jones]

You say eg. Do you mean the hint will be a hint at the name, or something like a name?

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

e.g. means example

[Lenna]

hint at the name

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

very clever...:shifty: Evil killer girl from Kill Bill Vol. 1.

[Ace14]

I still have no idea.:D

[Avathar]

GOGO!:D :D

[Quindiana Jones]

Well, I'm dead till I'm back 'ome with a decent thesarus then. Cos "smart" seems to be the key.

[martin]

Armstrong? If not was the word that Heero used in his post that referred to the 2nd line "Pretty"?

[Dell]

Quale?

I'm a master at arms
Don't know, using forks need arms, though the blue magic is strong

I'm as smart as can be
Qu's sure fun, they good in combat and I think they are more in the inside, so I think the samrt mean inside.

Though I have no good looks,
Qu's clan sure scary, huh?

You can sure fight with me.
Optional to be done.

[Lenna]

Well, I'm dead till I'm back 'ome with a decent thesarus then. Cos "smart" seems to be the key. <---- DICTIONARY DOT COM. that's just as useful, it will give you what you need.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

:laugh:

[Quindiana Jones]

Yeah I only thought of online dictionaries after I was home. Typical. Right, this may help someone:

Smart:
1.
a. Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.
b. Amusingly clever; witty: a smart quip; a lively, smart conversation.
c. Impertinent; insolent: "That's enough of your smart talk."
2. Energetic or quick in movement: a smart pace.
3. Canny and shrewd in dealings with others: a smart negotiator.
4. Fashionable; elegant: a smart suit; a smart restaurant; the smart set.
5.
a. Of, relating to, or being a highly automated device, especially one that imitates human intelligence: smart missiles.
b. Manufactured to regulate the amount of light transmitted in response to varying light conditions or to an electronic sensor or control unit: smart windows.
6. New England & Southern U.S. Accomplished; talented: He's a right smart ball player.


We already know it has nowt to do with intelligence....but, like Heero said, there's quite a few different variants.


Once again...

I'm a master at arms
Lenna's said that it's got nowt to do with weapons, so I'm guessing at lots of arms, tentacles etc.

I'm as smart as can be
Dictionary entries:
1a. Wrong.
1b. Maybe, meaning this person could be funny.
1c. Also maybe, this meaning the answer is maybe arrogant, disrespectful, impertinent and the like.
2. Meaning the answer could be quick moving.
3. Meaning the answer is good with words.
4. Meaning the answer could be well-dressed.
5a+b. (doubtful that it has anything to do with this but...) A kind of AI.
6. Meaning the answer could be talented.

DICTIONARY ENTRIES ARE POSSIBLITIES, NOT ANSWERS. THE CORRECT MEANING MIGHT NOT EVEN BE IN THERE.

Though I have no good looks,
Literally, so this character isn't good-looking. Though, this IS Lenna, and we don't know what her version of good-looking is ;)

You can sure fight with me.
Dunno whether it's with or against. I'll go with against, because there's a higher chance it IS against.

[Lenna]

Yeah I only thought of online dictionaries after I was home. Typical. Right, this may help someone:

Smart:
1.
a. Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.
b. Amusingly clever; witty: a smart quip; a lively, smart conversation.
c. Impertinent; insolent: "That's enough of your smart talk."
2. Energetic or quick in movement: a smart pace.
3. Canny and shrewd in dealings with others: a smart negotiator.
4. Fashionable; elegant: a smart suit; a smart restaurant; the smart set.
5.
a. Of, relating to, or being a highly automated device, especially one that imitates human intelligence: smart missiles.
b. Manufactured to regulate the amount of light transmitted in response to varying light conditions or to an electronic sensor or control unit: smart windows.
6. New England & Southern U.S. Accomplished; talented: He's a right smart ball player.


We already know it has nowt to do with intelligence....but, like Heero said, there's quite a few different variants.


Once again...

I'm a master at arms
Lenna's said that it's got nowt to do with weapons, so I'm guessing at lots of arms, tentacles etc.

I'm as smart as can be
Dictionary entries:
1a. Wrong.
1b. Maybe, meaning this person could be funny.
1c. Also maybe, this meaning the answer is maybe arrogant, disrespectful, impertinent and the like.
2. Meaning the answer could be quick moving.
3. Meaning the answer is good with words.
4. Meaning the answer could be well-dressed.
5a+b. (doubtful that it has anything to do with this but...) A kind of AI.
6. Meaning the answer could be talented.

DICTIONARY ENTRIES ARE POSSIBLITIES, NOT ANSWERS. THE CORRECT MEANING MIGHT NOT EVEN BE IN THERE.

Though I have no good looks,
Literally, so this character isn't good-looking. Though, this IS Lenna, and we don't know what her version of good-looking is ;)

You can sure fight with me.
Dunno whether it's with or against. I'll go with against, because there's a higher chance it IS against.

Pure Quin hunni, when I said Dictionary.com I meant the thesaurus on it, you're not looking for meanings of smart, you're looking for alternate ways of saying it. When you see that you'll see a big hint to the name of the answer. And when I said I have no good looks, no [human] would want to date or even be friends with this thing especially cause of it's intent.

[Quindiana Jones]

Learning by doing :D and the whole...mistakes thing...I hate that part.

So, it's not human, or even human-like, and we'd fight against it.

[Lenna]

;p

[Gray]

is it epitaph or valia pira? Or any of the Fiends (Guardians)

arms-Definition: crest
Synonyms: blazonry, coat, emblazonry, emblem, ensign, escutcheon, heraldry, insignia, shield, signet

Definition: weaponry
Synonyms: accoutrements, armaments, artillery, equipment, firearms, guns, munitions, ordnance, panoply, weapons

wonder if that helps anyone.

[Quindiana Jones]

Hm. I forgot about the other arms. If it were something to do with crests, then the answer could, I dunno, have more than 1 identity. In a sense. Like Epitaph. But I might just be talking....rubbish.

[Lenna]

no, what you are looking for is more forced into the storyline. Not sidequests etc.

[The Void]

Kracken.

[Quindiana Jones]

Kraken you mean ;)

[Lenna]

nope. Give some reason or I will not reply please.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm just reposting the riddle because, I dunno bout the rest of you but, I keep forgetting it. This means people can read it without changing page.

I'm a master at arms
I'm as smart as can be
Though I have no good looks,
You can sure fight with me.

EDIT: Weird. One of THE VERY VERY MANY synonyms for smart is "long-haired".

[Lenna]

Nope. It's alot more commonly used as smart, Long-haired is hardly used in reference to smart.

The word smart is in reference to intelligence, but it has nothing to do with the answer being smart. You are looking for a word that means intelligent but also has another meaning. Think of it that way

[Quindiana Jones]

Geez. You've been saying it's got nowt to do with intelligence. Women! :D

[Lenna]

No i've been saying that Smart itself in reference to the answer has nothing to do with intelligence, but the word Smart is in reference to intelligence only to help you look for the other word. Smart is a hint to part of the answer's name, you just have to know what word it is you're looking for. It's got multiple meanings anyway.

[Quindiana Jones]

Ah right, so it's more of a synonym of intelligent?

[Lenna]

It's not more of one, it is one ;)

[Quindiana Jones]

What a complicated mind you have :D

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Not a complicated mind...complicated thoughts. Her mind is pretty straight forward but her thoughts are make this so twisting. :D

[Quindiana Jones]

Now that's just nit-picking :)

I'm looking at syns. for intelligent but I can't see a connection between them and anything about FF9. Grr. So deliciously frustrating :D

Question: we are looking for a charcter right? Not a monster, ability and the like?

[Lenna]

Look at the synonyms, then think what ones have more than one meaning. From what I can see, there is only one word within the synonyms that can have any relation to an FF9 name. Remember I said, that word gives you part of the answer's name.

[Quindiana Jones]

Ah I see.

Shouldn't your little under-name say "What cheese is made backwards?" :D

[Lenna]

yeah but I cba ;p back on topic keep guessing!

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Oh, so you want us to guess now? ;)

[Lost Number]

Oh, so you want us to guess now? ;)
Dont be bloody contrary and think.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

I am dude. I don't see you contributing either so you have no room to talk, pal. :D

[Lost Number]

I am dude. I don't see you contributing either so you have no room to talk, pal. :D
One of us has already got the riddle right. And it aint you.

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

Your point is? :mad:

[Lenna]

Heero, Lost Number already told me the right answer to the riddle on msn, he decided not to post it to let others have a shot and secondly because he didn't want to write a riddle whilst he's already got one going on FF7. So instead of getting other people to contribute, why don't you have a shot? or stop posting.

[Quindiana Jones]

*applause*

I'm going for Quina.

I'm a master at arms
He's a good fighter (at times),

I'm as smart as can be
A syn. for intelligent is quick-witted, so, Qui.

Though I have no good looks,
Well, if anyone considers him attractive...

You can sure fight with me.
You eventually have to fight with him (on your side), so you sure (definitely) have to fight with him.

Doesn't make so much sense now it's written out....

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

You're all cold. I've given my shot, twice. So don't say I didn't do anything. :grumble:

[Lenna]

*applause*

I'm going for Quina.

I'm a master at arms
He's a good fighter (at times), <--- again we are not looking for weaponry terms. I believe I've answered this section before?

I'm as smart as can be
A syn. for intelligent is quick-witted, so, Qui. <--- you're getting mislead again, the word you want is another word for smart but in reference to the riddle it's nothing to do with smart. It's a word game. Think of synonims

Though I have no good looks,
Well, if anyone considers him attractive... <---- I've said this before, when I say no good looks, I mean that no human would ever be with them. If you think carefully Quina isn't human, but he/she is still has the same skills as a human. What you are looking for is only alive, it doesn't have the ability to move like humans or speak like them.

You can sure fight with me.
You eventually have to fight with him (on your side), so you sure (definitely) have to fight with him. <---- Are you fighting with him? or fighting them? That's what you're going to have to determine.

Doesn't make so much sense now it's written out....

[Quindiana Jones]

Yeah. All that's why it didn't sound so good afterwards. Right...so, it's got nothing to do with fighting-ness...I reckon it's either got alot of arms, or multiple looks.
The smart clue means that the synonym of smart is also a synonym of another word. The other word gives the clue to the name?
It doesn't move like humans. I'm guessing that it slithers or summat, instead of walking. It doesn't talk like humans, so it's a sort of animal thing. Or it could just not move at all, and make no sound at all.
Yeah. I'm just gonna ignore the last bit.

Hmph. I feel like a right idiot :) Ah well, when I get it, I'm gonna make an uber-hard one for you :D

[Old Manus]

Sephiroth

[Heero Yuy NWZC]

I have some reasons for this guess but I don't know if he fits all the lines, but I'm gonna go for...I don't know his name but I'm guessin that Tree looking Boss you fight in the Iifa/Lifa Tree.

[Twilight Edge]

I have no decent explanation but looking at it from another point of view,it makes me think of the flower boss you fight in the Evil Forest.

[Lenna]

I want names of things, I don't want "I think it's something like a flower", the whole riddle is to answer the question of what/who it is. Not guessing what it MIGHT be. And without an explanation I will no longer comment. Give reasoning and a NAME. Or you will not see me commenting on your post, whether you get it right or not.

[Twilight Edge]

Well I looked up the boss' name,Plant Brain.Is it?

[Lenna]

Draco, read the above post.

[Dell]

OK, I give explanation, if it not right I have another answer and its explanation.
I will say the monster that keep trying to attack you after you win against Plant Brain

I'm a master at arms
Strong arm to hold the ground and deadly attack.

I'm as smart as can be
Doing Pincer Attack by asking the others to attack from the opposite side.

Though I have no good looks,
He is discusting and he is weak

You can sure fight with me.
Well, if you're fast you can avoid it but if you're slow they'll catch up to you.

I'm reallly sorry, I don't know the monster name but please consider reading it.

[Lenna]

I'm afraid you are wrong either way Vivi, but please do some research, if you know where the monster is or whatever, it'd take two seconds to look up an enemy list and find the name for it. All you'd have to do is know where it is.

As I've constantly said Smart is in reference to the answer's name
although Smart isn't the word used

[Lenna]

Draco, you were right with Plant brain, give an explanation as to WHY though please.

[Ace14]

Can anybody answer how it's Plant Brain or just Draco (Just wondering, I'm not going to answer it if I can.); and Vivi Ultima the name of that monster is Plant Spider.:D

[Twilight Edge]

I'm a master at arms--->he has tentacles

I'm as smart as can be--->he can use magic,which usually can only be used by mages.(?)

Though I have no good looks,--->look at his face.

You can sure fight with me.--->He's a boss,you MUST fight him.

This is the best explanation I can get.Altoughthere might be a few mistakes...

[Lenna]

Draco you need to think a little and refer back to the hints I gave you.

I'm a master at arms - yes he has tentacles but he uses them as weapons aswell.
I'm as smart as can be - if you read my hints you'd see that this line was in reference to "BRAIN" hint of the name. Smart is a synonym of Brain/Brainy. That is the purpose of that line.
Though I sure have no good looks - it is not human, never has been never will be. It's not something you'd want to look at.
You can sure fight with me. - yes you have to fight him.

Think a bit more next time draco, and READ hints.

[Twilight Edge]

So...is it officially my turn?

[Dell]

Lenna said you got it correct, so it is your turn.
Unless you want to give someone else a turn.

[Quindiana Jones]

Like me.

Typical. I'm gone for a second and the buggers solved.

[Twilight Edge]

OK....

I am as arrogant as I can be
I am as confident as I can be
You can fight me with moderate ease
You can never avoid me.

TOO EASY.

[Rantz]

The only one that immediately springs to mind is of course Kuja...

I am as arrogant as I can be - Well duh.
I am as confident as I can be - Well duh.
You can fight me with moderate ease - Yeah, in my book he's quite easy to battle.
You can never avoid me. - He appears / you battle him several times.

A bit fuzzy, but worth a shot =)

[Twilight Edge]

There's another possiblility though.Someone almost similar to Kuja.

[Rantz]

Zidane then, I guess. He's arrogant, confident, and you can definitely not avoid him. Can't fit in the third line though. =)

[TheSpoonyBard]

Beatrix?

[Dell]

Garland?

[Twilight Edge]

You know you don't FIGHT Zidane,right?

ET,there's still other possibilities.Try to think a little on the other side...

Hint:It's a guy.

[Dell]

Draco, have you checked my post? I say Garland. Or if it's wrong, I think Amarant?

[Twilight Edge]

Well,I was writing my reply when you posted but nah not Garland.But you got right anyway,it's Amarant.

I am as arrogant as I can be--->amarant's arrogant
I am as confident as I may be--->he's confident of his strength
You can fight me with moderate ease--->he's quite easy,no?
You cannot avoid me.--->It's compulsory that you fight him.

[Quindiana Jones]

Once again, I'm gone for a short period of time and WHAM! new riddle.

[Dell]

Scattered throughout the world
Place for weirdo
Left two of unsame
With the shining one

tell me the place and what the riddle is talking about.
Easy!

[Rantz]

This is very iffy, but it's worth a shot:

My guess is The Qu's marshes / The Qu clan

Scattered throughout the world - The Qu's marshes exists on three continents out of four

Place for weirdo - Self-explanatory =P

Left two of unsame - We have (had) Quan and Vivi, who are not the same race but were living together

With the shining one - Vivi has shining eyes

Damn, that sounded so much better in my head. :mog:

[Dell]

Indeed it is the Qu's Marsh but you miss something, what is the riddles talking about other than Qu's Marsh? No, it's not Vivi or Quan story.

[Quindiana Jones]

Could it be the two moogles then? They're unsame to the characters or anything else in the marshes, and the child moogles "shining eyes"could be a metaphor for it's innocence and naive-ness.

[Dell]

Rantzien is right with the first two line, it refer to Qu's Marsh, the third and fourth line refer to something in Qu's Marsh.

It is not an Items or Weapons.

[Quindiana Jones]

Frogs! Leave a male and female, and the shining gold one.

[Dell]

Pure Quin14, it's your turn.

Scattered throughout the world - Qu's Marsh is scattered throughout Gaia.

Place for weirdo - Qu's Clan really look weird.

Left two of unsame - Leave Male and Female.

With the shining one - Together with the gold one.

[Quindiana Jones]

Wow, I'm like God, but better. Alright, I'll just think of a quick one...

This is an event that you have complete control over. Kind of a mini-quest, but without the quest part. Seeing as it only takes a while...

To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees.

The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault.
Be true with your arsenal,
or the money will moult.

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille.

Bit iffy, but still easy enough to get. Remember, you won't find the answer in the first, second, or third verse, you need to put them all together to get the full answer.

Don't moan, or I'll set Lenna on you :radred:

[Dell]

I'm going to say Festival of The Hunt

To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees.

This maybe the heritage of that festival or Zaghnol?

The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault.
Be true with your arsenal,
or the money will moult.

Don't know, The Ogre or Synthesis Shop?

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille.

well, maybe the rule:
Target enemy with good points
Do in times
Get the prize.

Or is it; Ragtime Mouse? (Second Choice)

To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees.

Don't know about this, maybe talking about Ragtime Mouse's Life

The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault.
Be true with your arsenal,
or the money will moult.

Well, you can obtained great EXP, AP and Gil, you must do it in step, follow your heart or the money flies away.

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille.

Target either X or O
Be in time, or he'll run away
Get the prize

[Lost Number]

It definitly seems to be Ragtime Mouse, as the decem mille means Ten Thousand, according to my latin.

Ah yes, *moans*

[Ace14]

I really don't want to explain 'cause it's just a guess, I will guess the sword fight in the begining between Blank and Zidane.

[Quindiana Jones]

Sorry V_U and Lost Number, wrong answers. Ace, I woulda thought that you knew already: I ignore answers unless given with reason.

[Lenna]

Pure Quin :P @ setting me on people.

I'd think from first impressions that it was talking about the friendly monsters, it's hard to tell which as there is nothing that specifies which one. The decem mille indeed means 10 hundred, and if not ragtime mouse then it has to be a friendly monster but that's the confusing part.


To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees.
^ You get into a battle with a friendly monster the battle is a fight/war but the friendly monster is not your enemy. You think it will be as it's a battle you're in, and if you didn't have the knowledge about friendly monsters you would of course attack, then the friendly monster would be emptyhanded and leave.


The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault.
Be true with your arsenal,
or the money will moult.
^ now after researching this line a little bit, arsenal means stock or supply the other meanings didn't fit. So this does indeed reference to the friendly monsters. "Be true with your arsenal" would most likely mean, keep up with your stock and supply, or you will not have the items to gain the prize/money you wish to recieve.

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille.
^ The ragtime mouse could be in this bit, only as he is also part of the friendly monster race. But if he isn't the actual answer then I think it's probably Friendly monsters in general.

[Quindiana Jones]

You need to spend mopre time in Latin class ;).
Good shot, but fortunately you are incorrect. Very much incorrect I have to say. The first verse is not in reference to any friendly monster, nor are the other two.

It's incredibly difficult to give you hints without handing you the answer on a plate.

A slight hint (sorry) would be that you chose the wrong synonyms of words.

[Dell]

I don't know if it has been said already but: Blank and Zidane swordplay in 'I Want To Be Your Canary'

To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
Try to act normal so that Brahne won't know it.

Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees.
Well, act for a while until it end with Garnet runaway.

The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault.
Be true with your arsenal,
or the money will moult.
To obtain Moonstone (If I'm correct), it must be done without any mistake, becareful or the prizes dissapearred.

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille.
If you enter the right pad and do it fast, get the prize
I don't know what Decem Mille is?

[Quindiana Jones]

Correct answer. But I'd rather not take it because your reasons are completely wrong. No really, every single word is incorrect. Sorry.

[Lenna]

OMG I UNDERSTAND MORE. Ok I'll attempt the reasoning for this, Zidane & Blanks fight then.
To cease a false war,
the bad union must be.
<-- The play talks about war, if the princess doesn't marry the prince then there will be a war. In order to stop this war, the princess has to marry someone she doesn't want to be with, and is not her true soul mate. / The bad union (badly paired up) must be.
Struggle for a while,
till the Vacant One flees. <--- you have to keep in time with every button and make sure that you're pressing the correct ones until Blank decides that they will carry this on later. Blank is the vacant one, as vacant means empty, and Blank is another work for empty.

The recipe for gold,
must be done without fault. <---
If you do every move possible without any faults you will gain the top prize which is a certain amount of money.
Be true with your arsenal, <--- Be true to your sword/weapon or the money will be less than what you can achieve.
or the money will moult.

If your targeting's good,
and timing is filled.
Then your prize will be,
the decem mille. <--- again if you have great skill with your reflexes and you can do it perfectly you will gain up to 10,000 gil.

[Quindiana Jones]

Perfect. Though I feel bad for V_U :(
Ah well. Sorry V_U.

[Lenna]

ok here goes:

A baby of this kind you find,
when searching high and low,
but in a special place, it's hidden,
only one place you will know.

Of many talents, does it take on board,
from the innocent and the kin,
but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,
if you complete the tasks within

[Quindiana Jones]

I think it's Choco. Or whatever the name of the Chocobo you ride on is called.

First verse: Line 1: You find Bobby Corwen, ickle baby chocobo.
Line 2: Hmm...not sure about that one. The BMV is in a canyon...
Line 3: This line refers to Big Fat Chocobo in the sky.
Line 4: It's only one place =/

Second Verse: Line 1: Choco learns lots of talents from Chocographs.
Line 2: Hmm...innocent little moogle runs the place where you find chocographs, and Choco's kin are in the sky place with BFC.
Line 3: Some people find finding chocographs annoying, and also, Ozma's a real git, so after struggling with all the 'graphs, you might get owned. But the treasures you get from 'graphs are very nice. Very nice indeed.
Line 4: If you find all the chocographs.

It sounded less likely as I went through, but I'll stick with it.

[Lenna]

nope sorry ;(

[Quindiana Jones]

Ok, how about Summoners?



A baby of this kind you find, Referring to Eiko.


when searching high and low, You have to go through Conde Petie Mountain Pass.


but in a special place, it's hidden, Madain Sari's pretty special. And it's all but destroyed, so in a way, hidden.


only one place you will know. It's the only village of Summoners.


Of many talents, does it take on board, Summoners can summon lots of eidolons.


from the innocent and the kin, I'd say they were innocent when they were wiped out.


but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be, About Thorn and Zorn ripping the power out of you if you are a Summoner. But it's also a gift being able to summon in the first place.


if you complete the tasks within Nope. Stumped.

I think it's wrong but I still post it. I'm mad!

[Lenna]

you're right in thinking baby as small and not necessarily a baby itself, but what you are looking for isn't human xD hence "it"

[Rantz]

I'm guessing Chocograph:


A baby of this kind you find,
when searching high and low,
When searching in Chocobo Hot & Cold, you may find this "baby", referring to the preciousness and relatively small (I guess) size of it.

but in a special place, it's hidden,
only one place you will know.
It can only be found once per game.

Of many talents, does it take on board,
from the innocent and the kin,
Some of the chocographs leads you to the Fat chocobo (the innocent and the kin), who grants Choco new talents (cross ocean, cross mountain).

but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,
if you complete the tasks within
Chocobo Hot & Cold costs a bit of money, so it's not completely a gift, but if you find the treasures which the Chocographs refer to, it kinda pays off =)

I have many other guesses, but this is the one that made most sense to me.

[Lost Number]

Ill go for the black mages.
A baby of this kind you find, - Vivi, he is small and not human...well, arguable...
when searching high and low, - Alexandrias streets and rooftops.
but in a special place, it's hidden, - he lives in Quans dwelling.
only one place you will know. Treno

Of many talents, does it take on board, - The various skills black mages have
from the innocent and the kin, - Vivi learns from his friends, Quan etc.
but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be, - Quan has plans for Vivi
if you complete the tasks within - Ok..this has gotten steadily worse and i cant think of anything.

[Lenna]

You're definitely thinking right about small, Rantzien is right about the last part of the first verse too.

the hidden bit is a hint to both where it is (the place) and that the answer is hidden.

the many talents is literal, you need to think carefully about that bit, but the innocent and the kin is more in reference to a link to the answer.

everything else is wrong I'm afraid

[Quindiana Jones]

It takes me so much concentration to read your posts. That monkey massacre is awesome and keeps dragging my attention towards it :D

I'm just thinking through everything that can only be gotten once. (i.e. the Dali Treasure chest, Ancient Aroma etc)

[Lost Number]

The only place you will know could refer to only a couple of places. Zidane would know his hideout in Lindblum Freya would know Burmecia. I think it must be some sidequest which takes place there or the prize is gotten there.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The Jump Rope with ViVi.
A baby of this kind you find,
ViVi's small and young like a baby, maybe not human

when searching high and low,
Gotta jump high and low?

but in a special place, it's hidden,
only one place you will know.
Can only be done once in a game, in only 1 spot.

Of many talents, does it take on board,
Gotta be good to get all 100 jumps

from the innocent and the kin,
At the time you do it, ViVi is innocent, and a kid like the girls?

but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,
It takes a long time, so it's not a gift, but you get some really good stuff!

if you complete the tasks within
DUH! If you jump all 100 times.

I'm not too sure, but it fits

[Lenna]

Choco boy.

Think about what Kin means, and who is most likely to have kin whether it being by birth or just by life.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Zidane and Kuja!
A baby of this kind you find,
Not 2 sure...

when searching high and low,
Kuja + Zidane were both high in Terra, and down on Gaia

but in a special place, it's hidden,
Terra

only one place you will know.
They both were made to take over Gaia

Of many talents, does it take on board,
They both know many skills? Not 2 sure...

from the innocent and the kin,
Zidane became innocent and didn't destroy Gaia, and they r brothers

but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,
?

if you complete the tasks within
?

Still prolly not right...

[Cid Vicious]

What about The Theater Ship.




A baby of this kind you find,You can pick up a smaller version, from Morrid.


when searching high and low,You've got to search for the coffee bean's that Morrid want's.


but in a special place, it's hidden,You find it in Tantalaus hideout in Lindblum.


only one place you will know.Urm.. Zidane's only home?


Of many talents, does it take on board,It's a Theater Ship, so the people on board have a talent for acting.


from the innocent and the kin,Innocent-Vivi arrived in Lindblum on it.
Kin-Zidane's brothers in Tantalaus.


but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,It's a gift for Cinna?


if you complete the tasks withinThe search for the Coffee Beans?

[Quindiana Jones]

That makes sense to me. Though I think the "special place it's hidden in" is Morrid's home, and the "one place you will know" refers to the fact that you can only go on it once: in Alexandria.

[Lenna]

What about The Theater Ship.




A baby of this kind you find,You can pick up a smaller version, from Morrid.


when searching high and low,You've got to search for the coffee bean's that Morrid want's.


but in a special place, it's hidden,You find it in Tantalaus hideout in Lindblum.


only one place you will know.Urm.. Zidane's only home?


Of many talents, does it take on board,It's a Theater Ship, so the people on board have a talent for acting.


from the innocent and the kin,Innocent-Vivi arrived in Lindblum on it.
Kin-Zidane's brothers in Tantalaus.


but a gift it is not, or a gift it may be,It's a gift for Cinna?


if you complete the tasks withinThe search for the Coffee Beans?

You are half right. But the theatre ship itself isn't the answer, plus I want the name not the name of it's kind.

[Quindiana Jones]

So it's a figurette?

[Lenna]

maybe. maybe not. you're solving the riddle here Quin :P not playing 20 questions.

[Quindiana Jones]

The questions add up to the solving :D

[Lenna]

I'm going to have to give Vandal the answer, 1 because everyone given up despite the biggest hint that it's the smaller version of it's kind. The Mini-Prima Vista is what I was looking for, Vandal got the reasoning right, just the wrong version of the answer. But oh well he got it.

[Cid Vicious]

One of your clues said "A baby of this kind you find", you don't find a Mini Mini-Prima Vista. The clue was misleading.

Anyway here's mine-

I am a Monster
I am a Weapon
I am a Region
I am Everywhere

I can be found and won
I am known across the world
Even in the depths of your memory
Where I am at my strongest

[Lenna]

The clue wasn't misleading, the answer was of it's KIND, it was the baby, it was a hint to the answer.

[Quindiana Jones]

But you don't find it. You more...earn it. If I remember correctly. But still, good riddle. Be proud that nobody got the answer :D

I'll start thinking about Vandal's riddle later. I'm too knackered right now.

[Ace14]

This is probobly so wrong, oh well. I guess the ship the Invincible:
1.It's a monster for taking over summons.
2.It's a weapon 'cause it can destroy Madin Sari.
3.You can go inside it and walk around in it so it's kind of a region.
4.It can go everywhere really fast so it's in a way everywhere.:riiight:
5.You can find it in Terra and it's your prize if you beat the three bosses in a row.
6.Everyone knows about it, for example: Garland, Kuja, Main Characters, Summoners.
7.It's the strongest when you get to Memoria.:sweat:

[Lenna]

But you don't find it. You more...earn it. If I remember correctly. But still, good riddle. Be proud that nobody got the answer :D

I'll start thinking about Vandal's riddle later. I'm too knackered right now.

No PQ, You EARN the chance to FIND it. Which is why it's a gift maybe maybe not etc. You complete morrid's quests and it's available, but you have to go find it in order to get it.

[Cid Vicious]

This is probobly so wrong, oh well. I guess the ship the Invincible:
1.It's a monster for taking over summons.
2.It's a weapon 'cause it can destroy Madin Sari.
3.You can go inside it and walk around in it so it's kind of a region.
4.It can go everywhere really fast so it's in a way everywhere.:riiight:
5.You can find it in Terra and it's your prize if you beat the three bosses in a row.
6.Everyone knows about it, for example: Garland, Kuja, Main Characters, Summoners.
7.It's the strongest when you get to Memoria.:sweat:No.
Good guess though.

[Lenna]

I am a Monster <---- It develops monsters therefore is the mother of all monsters.
I am a Weapon <---- it is used to create monsters therefore could be classed as a weapon.
I am a Region <--- It covers regions aswell as has it's own continent (mist continent)
I am Everywhere <-- it is mostly everywhere you go

I can be found and won <--- In this term it may not be won as in can be captured, but it can be found in the Iifa tree and can be defeated/
I am known across the world <--- known everywhere, most commonly talked about.
Even in the depths of your memory <---- you would remember it as it was part of life growing up for them.
Where I am at my strongest <--- Unsure about this last line but I think it may be to do with the fact memories can haunt, and until they defeat it, they will be haunted by it? perhaps.

I think it's the mist.

[Cid Vicious]

It's not the Mist.

[Angel Heart]

I think it's a Summon.

I am a Monster - Ark is a summon and a monster you fight in Oeilvert.
I am a Weapon - Bahamut was used to destroy Cleyra.
I am a Region - Alexandria.
I am Everywhere - No-matter where you are you can call a summon.

I can be found + won - You can get Ramuh if you find the piece's of the Hero's story. You can win Dark Matter for Odin at the treno auction house.
I am known across the world - Everyone knows about summons.
Even in the depths of your memory, where i am at my strongest - You can get Ark in Memoria who is the strongest summon.
:p

[Cid Vicious]

I think it's a Summon.

I am a Monster - Ark is a summon and a monster you fight in Oeilvert.
I am a Weapon - Bahamut was used to destroy Cleyra.
I am a Region - Alexandria.
I am Everywhere - No-matter where you are you can call a summon.

I can be found + won - You can get Ramuh if you find the piece's of the Hero's story. You can win Dark Matter for Odin at the treno auction house.
I am known across the world - Everyone knows about summons.
Even in the depths of your memory, where i am at my strongest - You can get Ark in Memoria who is the strongest summon.
:pThat's Wrong Angel Heart.

I'll give a clue.

The answer Is connected to Treno.

[Quindiana Jones]

Pretty vague, but I think it might have summat to do with cards, or be cards.

You can get monster cards, weapon cards *voice fades out*
You can find cards and win them, every body knows about Tetra Master *voice fades out again*

Well, that's wrong :D

[Angel Heart]

CARDS. Why didn't i think of that :mad: , that's probably right, although i think summons would of been better.

[Dell]

Odin?

[Rantz]

Well, that's wrong :D
I'm actually quite sure it's right ;)

I am a Monster - Monster cards
I am a Weapon - Weapon cards
I am a Region - Region cards
I am Everywhere - Cards are wide spread around the world

I can be found and won - They are.
I am known across the world - They are.
Even in the depths of your memory - Even in Memoria, you can play cards...
Where I am at my strongest - ... against the phantoms, who are (arguably) the strongest card players.

[Quindiana Jones]

Yes!!! That's exactly what I meant! I thought of a good riddle today so I hope it's right and I get to do one :D

[Cid Vicious]

Your right Pure Quin. And so Is Rantzien on the reasons.

Your Go PQ.

[Quindiana Jones]

Wow.

Here's my riddle, I am rather proud of it:
"!tuah sap tse'n lI"

There are reasons for that and I'm telling you now, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be quite a toughy ;)

EDIT: Oh yeah, Vandal: Good riddle :D

[Twilight Edge]

Wo0t?What alnguage is that?

[boys from the dwarf]

id this a riddle or an anagram? either way im pretty stumped on this one. id think its al bhed but that wouldnt be allowed because is in the FF9 forum.

[Lost Number]

"!tuah sap tse'n lI
Il n'est pas haut!
Is that french?

[Ace14]

It's probobly some phrase, just scrambled.

[Rantz]

"!tuah sap tse'n lI
Il n'est pas haut!
Is that french?
It is =)

I know the translation(s), but I haven't thought of a guess yet :greenie:

Edit: It's not Vivi, right?

[Quindiana Jones]

Indeed it is French. HINT: A translation would help for half of the answer. I'm so chuffed with this riddle :D:D:D

Sorry, Vivi is incorrect.

[Lost Number]

i take it no one will be kind enough to give translation?

[Quindiana Jones]

www.freetranslation.com will. :D

[Lost Number]

it is not high!

dont know wht to make of that

[Quindiana Jones]

Not quite. "He is not high!"

Though, as I said. Take into account the "!tuah sap tse'n lI". Everything has a reason.

[farplaner]

...You don't give us much to go on.

So are you meaning to be ironic by writing it backwards?

And high has more than one connotation...

I can't even venture a guess...

[Quindiana Jones]

Hmm...I'm trying to think of hints that won't tell you the answer. Hmm...

It's written in French for a small part. It's written backwards for a clue to two parts. For one part it needs to be translated.

For the "high" part, think basic.

[Rantz]

Hilgigars?

I'll tell you my reasoning if it is correct ^^

[Quindiana Jones]

It's wrong, but I'd still like to hear your reasoning :D

[Fantasy Fan]

He is not high! Backwards in French. hmm, Zidane, IS a french name. So I'll guess Zidane.

[Quindiana Jones]

That has nothing to do with backward-ocity :D

Even though it is very short, the answer is given in two parts. You won't find it all in one.
The answer is a name though, but not an important one.

[Fantasy Fan]

Cid!

that was stupid guess I know.

[Quindiana Jones]

Yeah it was. Try thinking about the riddle.

[Rantz]

It's wrong, but I'd still like to hear your reasoning :D
Well, I thought something like this.

"He is not high!", but backwards. This could mean that it means the opposite ("He is high!"), which was what made me think of Hilgigars in the first place. Then you said that there was two meanings of the riddle being backwards, so I thought it might be because Hilgigars is somewhat of a reference to the Hill Gigas of earlier FFs (backwards).

For the french, I'm not sure what I thought.

As always, it sounds better in my head than it does written out. =P

[Quindiana Jones]

This riddle has no references to any other games. You're on the right line with opposites, but you took a wrong turn.

[farplaner]

thanks for the clarifications, unfortunately I still have no idea. I was going to guess something to do with the development of chocobos until you said "think basic" referring to "high"....you know, strange gas...enlightenment by chubby chocobo... otherwise, ya' got me.

[Quindiana Jones]

Heh. Not that kind of high :D

As I said before, you were on the right lines with opposites.

[farplaner]

the backwards thing makes me think of Ipsen's castle...but I can't think of any unimportant name that has anything to do with being high up...

[Doomie]

Wow, I haven't posted here in a while. Ipsen makes sense, considering it is an upsidedown castle. (Backwards proof #1) Weaker weapons also work as stronger weapons. (Backwards proof #2) As for the french, I have no clue. THe only character that I remember coming in contact with Ipsen was Colin. Colin is derived from Nicholas, which is a name of French origin. Aaaand that's it.

[Dell]

I think it's the boy in Alexandria. He hide his card and his mother ask Vivi to race with him.

[Quindiana Jones]

Ipsen is.....wrong. As is Hippaul. The backwards part doesn't mean backwards in the game. Think of the whole line: "He is not high". What is he then?

[Fantasy Fan]

He is not high backwards means he is high.
It's in French so he has something to with France.

Zidane is a french name and he's tall!

Steiner's also tall, but isn't French.

It's too hard :(

Wait, moogles send letters, and letters are French. Moogles aren't high. And they're always backwards.......

So I'm guessing moogles!

[Quindiana Jones]

Very wrong. The backwards doesn't apply to the phrase, only some words in the phrase.

[Fantasy Fan]

ha, I know, I just like making stupid guesses :laughing:

[Lenna]

Alot of you are going in the wrong direction. He continually says that the backwards part is related to the phrase we see not the meaning of the phrase. What we need to figure out is, is the backwards part in both the backwards phrase, the phrase forward, the translated phrase, or is it in both the french and the translated.?

[Lost Number]

Gah, this seems more word games...I cannot follow you at all.

[Lenna]

Alot of you are going in the wrong direction. He continually says that the backwards part is related to the phrase we see not the meaning of the phrase. What we need to figure out is, is the backwards part in the backwards phrase, the phrase forward, the translated phrase, or is it in both the french and the translated.?

This is all of what I have so far

Il n'est pas haut

tauh sap tse'n li

hgih ton si tI

It is not high

Thats every possible way backwards and forwards.

Pure Quin has mentioned only 2 parts are backwards and a small part needs to be translated. As we can see, he's mentioned High is correct as he said to think basic about it. So High is the translated word if I'm correct. So ignore translating everything else.

High could mean, of great importance, of higher development/complexity (meaning evolved basically) or genuinely elevated.

the only word I can see backwards in any of those phrases is Tons/Ton everything else would have to be an anagram rather than backwards in itself. Although looking in the french part, Il n'est = Nest? perhaps.

Am I close with any idea's from this PureQ?

Right what I'm confused about, Is the NAME of the answer actually in this riddle or is only part of it?
Is it clues to the answer otherwise? If it is a name, is there an anagram in there or is it backwards as you said.

Now if all of that is a possibility, I'm going to say Frederick Ash. When you do not translate the first part yet keep High (doesn't matter works either way) Il n'est pas High, if you look closely you get the word Ash. Ash was of high importance, he was an Archaeologist compared to alot of people in the game that could either be a higher job than most others, or if he isn't high, he could be compared to royalty saying he is not in power therefore he has no high-qualities about him

[abrojtm]

Ille n'est pas haut = He is not high
Opposite He is not high = She is low
Where to go from here? No clue. Wol si ehs? ehs si wol?

[Lenna]

abrojtm, he said that there is only a small part which needs to be translated, then 2 parts are backwards. So the full sentence will not need to be translated. Only concentrate on the word High, as he has said that high is required in this, therefore it means that this must be the word he wanted translated. Ignore the he is not when translated.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm afraid you're thinking far too complex there Lenna.

abrojtm is actually painfully close with one line of his post, but missed half.

The answer is one word, and is a name.

[Cid Vicious]

Eiko?

[Rantz]

The actor, Lowell?

"tauh sap tse'n lI" = "Il n'est pas haut"
Since it's backwards, "She is low" as abrojtm pointed out.
"she" in french = "elle", hence "Low" + "elle" ~ "Lowell".

[Fantasy Fan]

:D:up: but my guess is (and it's not a stupid one this time):

"tauh sap tse'n lI" out from French is "hgih ton si eH"
"hgih ton si eH" is the opposite of saying "He is not high" which is also the opposite of sssaying "She is low"
"She is low" into French is "Elle est basse"

so now it's "He is not high" backwards in french like before (only decoded). But it's one word. So "Elle est basse" as one word. What could that be? I think I'm on the wrong track.

Something tells me it's Beatrix. Is it Beatrix?

[Tainted Angel]

---waiting---

[farplaner]

Tainted: wait your turn!

[Quindiana Jones]

The actor, Lowell?

"tauh sap tse'n lI" = "Il n'est pas haut"
Since it's backwards, "She is low" as abrojtm pointed out.
"she" in french = "elle", hence "Low" + "elle" ~ "Lowell".


Bingo. Congratulations :D. Your go Rantzien. Unless you enjoyed my riddle so much, that you want me to have another go? :D

[Rantz]

Bingo. Congratulations :D. Your go Rantzien. Unless you enjoyed my riddle so much, that you want me to have another go? :D
Yay, and I would give you another go, but I already had a riddle prepared in the case that I would be right :D
Your riddle was awesome though ;)

So, here comes a tough one!

Putting my breath to rest
anticipating twilight's end
in hope of finding love
fighting sickness

Void was my brawl;
it drenched me.

Hopefully, this will be a hard nut to crack, so whatever first comes to your mind is probably wrong. :p

EDIT: Oh yes, and it is the 'me' in the riddle that you are to figure out, if that wasn't clear.

[Quindiana Jones]

Have you seen the answer to this riddle in this forum anywhere?

Dunno why I asked, but I just noticed (Endless) twilight and Void, and the answer might be in posts that they wrote. Probably just coincidence.

[Rantz]

Dunno why I asked, but I just noticed (Endless) twilight and Void, and the answer might be in posts that they wrote. Probably just coincidence.
That is a pure coincidence, yes, but well spotted anyway :)

[Quindiana Jones]

I think it's someone in Terra. I'll go Kuja, and tell you reasoning if it's right :D

[Rantz]

I'll go Kuja, and tell you reasoning if it's right :D
Sorry, it's wrong :D

[Quindiana Jones]

Arsehats. I still think it's got summat to do with Terra. Am I on then right tracks with that one?

[Rantz]

Arsehats. I still think it's got summat to do with Terra. Am I on then right tracks with that one?
I am afraid you're not :p

[boys from the dwarf]

zidane or garnet. im bad at these and never really think at them for too long but some of the things fit.

[Fantasy Fan]

I would have said Garnet too.

Putting my breath to rest Garnet's resting because she's sick of the castle
anticipating twilight's end twilight is sparkly white, and Garnet is a white mage
in hope of finding love Garnet loves Zidane
fighting sickness Garnet can heal people and that's what she likes

Void was my brawl; I don't know what to make of this bit.
it drenched me. as in, she was disapointed which she was throughout the game.

so is it Garnet?

[Rantz]

It is neither Zidane nor Garnet.

[Fantasy Fan]

Freya!

[Rantz]

Nope ;)

[f f freak]

Vivi or the black mages u know fighting sickness they have a shortened lifespan? i dont know.

[Lenna]

Putting my breath to rest
anticipating twilight's end
in hope of finding love
fighting sickness

Void was my brawl;
it drenched me.

Somehow I feel that the breath to rest is literal. Who died in the game? Even past characters who only existed in memory, or those who were not as important.

I also believe that they may have had some sort of spotlight shining on them, someone who is not necessarily famous to us in the game, but famous to those around them?

My theory revolves around the role of Marcus in I want to be your canary.

After Marcus kills his beloved Cornelia when she tries to protect her father, Marcus realises what he has done and stabs himself (taking his own life), anticipating usually means to do/cause before it's time. His light was Cornelia, and he took her life before it was meant to be gone or the twilight could mean the spotlight on the stage, He took his life to end his role leaving the audience moved by the story. He takes his life as punishment and as hope that he will soon be reunited with her in the heavens. Guilt being the sickness. Void was my brawl most likely means that his brawl meant nothing, as it was for cornelia, but it destroyed her. She was all that was in his life, that "brawl" took it away, leaving him with nothing.


The word brawl also got me, you never see the word Brawl anymore, it was mostly used in the west or in the older days. Which is why I feel that the use of brawl refers to the play due to it's time-set. It was set in medevilish times, which is when brawl would have been more used. Void was my fight would have been just as good in sound wise, but I still feel brawl was put there for a reason.

[Rantz]

Vivi/The black mages are wrong.

Lenna, as much as I like your reasoning I'm afraid I have to tell you that you're on the completely wrong track. It's (unfortunately) far less symbolic than that.

You will also have to take into consideration that English is not my native language, so my exact wording is not as related to the answer as it might seem. It's rather the full sentences that are to be analyzed than the words.

[Fantasy Fan]

Steiner!

[Quindiana Jones]

Charles Dickens!...oh sorry, I thought we were just shouting names for fun.

Putting my breath to rest
anticipating twilight's end
in hope of finding love
fighting sickness

Void was my brawl;
it drenched me.

I reckon it's Brahne. She dies, before the destruction of Terra (I'll link this riddle to Terra somehow if it's the last thing I do, damnit!). Before she dies, she talks to Garnet and they're all happy, and she had probably hoped that Garnet would forgive her for being a real :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:. Death would in that case be the sickness.

Her brawl...hmm...she was waging war on everything using summons, then the Invincible came along and completely nullified that, as it set the summon Bahamut against Brahne, blowing up her ships and drenching her.

It sounded good in my head, but the more I wrote, the less convincing it became to me....

[Lenna]

but what about finding love?

[Ace14]

but what about finding love?
She wanted Garnet's love and found it when she died.

If Pure Quins is wrong then I'll guess Beatrix. She put her breath to rest when she was in Alexandria ,when Garnet was Queen, because she thought everything was over. Twilight was almost gone and it was night when Bahamut attacked. She hoped steiner loved her. Fighting the sickness of her past before she was good. The fight against her past in vain and she was drenched in saddness until Stiener got to her.
I don't think it's right but it's worth trying.

[Tainted Angel]

Wait.. could it be Freja?


Putting my breath to rest
~~~~~~~~~~
Freja finally can rest at the end of the game,, iirc she retired to love a man who can't remember his past.
~~~~~~~~
anticipating twilight's end~
~~~~~~~~~
Well unless LOTS of Burmecians got away there is the death of the species.
~~~~~~~~~
in hope of finding love
~~~~~~~~~
Freja surrendered to fate before geting her love back... I can't think of anything for this one.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
fighting sickness
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Homesickness.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Void was my brawl;
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Her brawl was for no reason I can see at the end, she should have just retired.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
it drenched me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
She was overwhelemed when the game was over.

Keep in mind all I know of Disc 3/4 is what I've read in the interweb. I havn't ever finished FF9 all the way.

[Quindiana Jones]

but what about finding love?

Yeah, like Ace14 said. She wanted Garnet to forgive her for her actions and to love her like a mother again.

[Fantasy Fan]

so what is it?

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm waiting for Rantzien's reply.

[Fantasy Fan]

Keep in mind all I know of Disc 3/4 is what I've read in the interweb. I havn't ever finished FF9 all the way.
then you're definately missing out! :D And I already guessed Freya.

[Rantz]

Sorry for taking so long. All the answers posted so far were wrong, but most of you have good reasoning. However, you probably need to think less metaphorically with this one. In fact, it's very literal. There is one word in the whole riddle that is strictly metaphorical.

[Fantasy Fan]

Putting my breath to rest: If it's not metaphorical, then it's a character who's very talkative.
anticipating twilight's end: I would say, lust for glory or power.
in hope of finding love: pretty straight forward.
fighting sickness: someone who is sick.

Void was my brawl;: emptiness was my noise. So it's something he/she said.
it drenched me.: I assume 'drenched' was symolic for disappointment. 'It disappointed me.'

So it talks a lot, wants power, wants love, is sick, says the wrong things and was disappointed.

Steiner? I think that 'love' bit throws people.

[Rantz]

So it talks a lot, wants power, wants love, is sick, says the wrong things and was disappointed.
Out of 6 you got 1 thing right :p


Steiner?
Nope.

[Quindiana Jones]

So it's all literal? Apart from one purely metaphorical word? Hmph.

Putting my breath to rest --- Could be dying, or just shutting up.
anticipating twilight's end --- Looking forward to the end of something. Can't think for twilight.
in hope of finding love --- It hopes to find love. Could be one love, or just to be loved by people in general.
fighting sickness --- It's ill. Or possibly just messed in the head. Probably ill.

Void was my brawl; --- It fought, but it's efforts were...can't think of a word. Just pointless in the end I guess.
it drenched me. --- "it drenched me"? If that's grammatically correct with the previous line, then the "it" must be the brawl.

[Rantz]

So it's all literal? Apart from one purely metaphorical word?
Indeed, metaphorical may not be the right word though. Let's say: one of the words gives a clue to another word, not the answer itself, but a word that would quite quickly lead you to the answer.


Hmph.
Don't you dare hmphing me. Anyway, parts of your analysis is completely correct, other parts are completely off. :choc2:

[Quindiana Jones]

Hmph hmph hmph. "Parts". Hmph parts. *walks off in a huff*

[Rantz]

The riddle
Waiting here
anticipating twilight's end
in hope of finding love
fighting sickness

Void was my brawl;
it drenched me.

====

Wrong guesses
Kuja
Zidane
Garnet
Freya
Vivi
The black mages
Marcus from "I want to be your canary"
Steiner
Charles Dickens :D
Brahne
Beatrix
Steiner
Garland
Eiko
Cid
Blank
Alexander
Vivi
Moguta
Sir "Irontail" Fratley
Amarant

====

Hints / other notes
Find the 'me'
No direct connections to EoFF forums
No direct connections to Terra
Analyze the sentences rather than the words
The riddle is very much literal
Only one word is strictly metaphorical
The second verse is sort of "linked to" something from the first
Try to connect the verses
"Putting my breath to rest" is not referring to death or destruction of any kind, but it isn't the metaphorical word earlier hinted about either.
The answer is not a main character
The answer is not crucial to the main storyline

[farplaner]

this is probably wrong, but "twilight's end" makes me think of Treno where you begin the search for the 13th stelazzio, and don't two of them "kiss" after you find it (referring to searching for love).... I don't know...

[Ace14]

Is it a he, a she, or an it? Example of it: Non human or Brahne.:D

[Rantz]

Is it a he, a she, or an it?
Sorry, but answering that would narrow it down too much. That's like excluding 2/3 of possible answers in one hint =)

[Quindiana Jones]

Depends how big the last third is ;)....

I still think that if one can get the "anticipating twilight's end" part cracked, then the rest will be easy.

You've said before that the grammar may be wrong, or summat along those lines, so by "anticipating" do you mean "looking forward to" or just kind of "before". Because it could mean either that the character is looking forward to the end of something, or that the character is just one that happens before something.

If it's looking forward to then I'm guessing Garland. He makes sense to the riddle occasionally, but I'm pretty sure that the reasons for that are too deep in thought. As you've said, it's very literal. But yeah, I'll go Garland.

[Rantz]

You've said before that the grammar may be wrong, or summat along those lines, so by "anticipating" do you mean "looking forward to" or just kind of "before". Because it could mean either that the character is looking forward to the end of something, or that the character is just one that happens before something.
It's kind of both I guess, but mostly it's in the "before" meaning as you call it. :D


If it's looking forward to then I'm guessing Garland. He makes sense to the riddle occasionally, but I'm pretty sure that the reasons for that are too deep in thought. As you've said, it's very literal. But yeah, I'll go Garland.
I can definitely see how you think that, but I'm sorry to inform you that once again, you're wrong :cry:

The second verse is sort of "linked to" something from the first.

[Quindiana Jones]

So people should concentrate mainly on the first verse I guess?

[Rantz]

So people should concentrate mainly on the first verse I guess?
Not really. Try to connect the verses! ;)

[Fantasy Fan]

Eiko

[Rantz]

No. Please reason more, you wont be able to get it by just shouting names.

[kain_ex]

Cid's a guy looking for his love, so I'll try him ^^

Cid

[Rantz]

Nope, wrong

[Ace14]

Blank because of the stone covering him "it drenched me" "void was my brawl" he couldn't escape it. It's probobly wrong and plus I'm too lazy to give the rest of my explanation."Please reason more" You never said give all reasonings.:D

[Rantz]

Blank because of the stone covering him "it drenched me" "void was my brawl" he couldn't escape it. It's probobly wrong and plus I'm too lazy to give the rest of my explanation."Please reason more" You never said give all reasonings.:D
Sorry, wrong. You're still stuck on metaphors here :)

And don't reason for my sake, the reason I want you to reason more is to help you on the way. You won't be able to get it without reasoning, but if you know that you have a good reasoning to back your guess up and you just don't feel like writing it all out, then by all means don't.

[Lenna]

Remember, Rantzien is not an Native English person, so as he said, metaphors etc aren't going to be the case here. Every line is literal, but only one word in particular is metaphorical.

I know it's most likely wrong, but Alexander?

Putting my breath to rest - Alexander is destroyed by the Invincible.
anticipating twilight's end - I feel that twilight is the metaphor here, and it may relate to glory and hope. When Alexander appeared, it was to defeat bahamut.
in hope of finding love - unsure of this line, Garnet and Eiko were the ones who summoned him, therefore Garnet could have wanted to keep love and peace in the kingdom.
fighting sickness - sickness can mean to destroy ones healthy condition. The invincible took away that from Alexander.

Void was my brawl; - He was destroyed while fighting to protect the kingdom
it drenched me. - Removed his powers

[Rantz]

Sorry, wrong... Guess I'll give ya a "Putting my breath to rest" is not referring to death or destruction of any kind, but it isn't the metaphorical word earlier hinted about either.

[Fantasy Fan]

Vivi.

My reason was already posted until my computer fucked up and I had to repost my answer. So my guess is Vivi!

[Rantz]

Vivi.
Nope. It's not any of the main characters. The answer is not crucial to the main storyline.

Damn, there goes two more hints. I feel like I'm giving them out too often. :mad:

[Lenna]

so the answer basically is in a panic but then calms down?

[Rantz]

so the answer basically is in a panic but then calms down?
Not exactly, but not too far off ^^

[Lenna]

well putting breath to rest doesn't mean much else other than dying, or excited/in a panic then calming down. unless it's more relief but that is still a type of calming down.

[Ace14]

I don't know why but I want to guess the moogle in Bermecia trying to get the other moogle from under the bell.

Putting my breath to rest- Sighing because it thought getting the other moogle was hopeless; that or calming down 'cause Vivi had the Kupo Nut.

anticipating twilight's end- It thought it was the end for the two.

in hope of finding love- It was trying to get his love.

fighting sickness- He was trying to fighting getting sick to his stomach 'cause he knew it was the end.

Void was my brawl- Trying to lift the bell was hopeless.

it drenched me- Sadness drenched him
________________________________________
Probobly really wrong but I like to post a guess. :D

[Rantz]

Ace14, you're wrong...


well putting breath to rest doesn't mean much else other than dying, or excited/in a panic then calming down. unless it's more relief but that is still a type of calming down.
If that is so, I will have to reword it and apologize for my lacking english. It means something else directly translated to swedish, see.
Sorry for misleading you :(
Edit: Well, it doesn't sound as good as it did before, but I replaced that line. At least it should be clear what I mean. :p

Waiting here
anticipating twilight's end
in hope of finding love
fighting sickness

Void was my brawl;
it drenched me.

[Lenna]

It makes more sense now Rantzien :P thanks :)

*gets thinking*

[SHin_KOZuya191]

umm.....could it be Sir Irontail Fratley?
Waiting here: Thinks he is on a world of his own because he remembers nothing
anticipating twilight's end: The day when he came back to Freya
in hope of finding love: Wanted to be with Freya when he came back
fighting sickness: Trying to regain his memories

Void was my brawl;Fighting was what stripped him of his memories and soul
it drenched me.:ditto.

Its probably horribly wrong but it doesnt hurt to try

[Fantasy Fan]

Ace14, I was going to guess that! But good thing it was wrong :p and I thought "putting my breath to rest" means stop.

amarant

[Fantasy Fan]

umm.....could it be Sir Irontail Fratley?
Waiting here: Thinks he is on a world of his own because he remembers nothing
anticipating twilight's end: The day when he came back to Freya
in hope of finding love: Wanted to be with Freya when he came back
fighting sickness: Trying to regain his memories

Void was my brawl;Fighting was what stripped him of his memories and soul
it drenched me.:ditto.

Its probably horribly wrong but it doesnt hurt to try
I think it is wrong.

[Lenna]

I agree with Fantasy Fan. there is only one word that is used metaphorically in that riddle and waiting here is not what Fratley did, if anything Freya waited for him, while he travelled the world. He was not waiting for anything.

[Rantz]

It makes more sense now Rantzien :P thanks :)

*gets thinking*
Awesome :D


umm.....could it be Sir Irontail Fratley?
Nope, the guess isn't too bad though, at least if it weren't for the hints you've gotten :p


amarant
No.

[kain_ex]

Hmm... after reading with more attention :D I'm sort of thinking that this ENIGMA is related somehow to Burmecia or Cleyra... just dunno if it's the cities itself, or someone inside them.

Or if it's wrong, maybe it have something to do with Treno? :eek: