FFIX Riddles v2.0

[Aerith's Knight]

its too hard.. isnt fun anymore.. im not gonna guess anymore

[Quindiana Jones]

eiko guy's riddle:

For now I'm gone
But never forgotten
Once used for protection
But no longer so
I am never seen while im alive
But I still move but with help from my master.

What am I?

Hints:
Gets replaced before the game ends.



Reposted for simplicity's sake. And stop whining about it being "too hard :crying:". I'm fed up with these rubbish get-it-in-three-post riddles. Good work, eiko guy. Don't tell them the answer. And stop guessing everyone. It clearly hasn't helped anyone. If you post your reasoning then eiko guy can tell you where you've gone wrong and hint at what you should think about.

Not having played the game for a good year or so doesn't help with this. What's got me stumped is the "For now" part. That suggests the answer disappears or something at a single point in the game, but unfortunately I can't remember enough of the game to think where.

I'm gonna go with Hilda Garde 1. I know 2's been said, but meh. It's a start.

For now I'm gone - It gets stolen.
BUt never forgotten - Cid never forgets it and is always trying to rebuild her.
Once used for protection - Wasn't it Linblum's attempt to gain dominance in the skies? Alexandria had the Red Rose, which was awesome, and Cid wanted a ship that could travel anywhere blah blah blah. Whatever. ;)
But no longer so - It got nicked, and eventually used to transport Kuja around, and he's not a nice man. :(
I am never seen while im alive - *whole idea crumbles* ummm....urhhhh....It's a ship. It's not alive.
But I still move but with help from my master. - Pilots.

What am I? - Hilda Garde 1. I just bloody told you!

[Eiko Guy]

heheh noone is right.

hmm Well Quin this thing is willingly given up. Hmm given up isn't the right word. BUt basically it goes because of its owners actions.

The second lines reasoning isn't clos sorry.

By once used for protection i mean a long time ago. Before even the characters grandparents could be alive. Way before then.

In this day in age it isn't used for protection...leaving it at that

This object is never seen while alive....leaving that at that

It moves and doesn't exactly needs it's owners will to move.

It isn't a machine

[Quindiana Jones]

And it isn't eidolons?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I'ma say the Game Over screen, it makes alot of sense. Mostly in the never seen while alive part.

[sillybuttons™]

Im wanting to say Necron but i cant really explain why.

For now I'm gone
But never forgotten
Once used for protection
But no longer so
I am never seen while im alive
But I still move but with help from my master.

I dunno, it just seems to be a description of Necron to me.
Ill try to add some reasoning to this post soon.:mog:

[Eiko Guy]

Nothing so complicated guys.

You see the answer on disc one for the first time.

[Rantz]

I can't seem to find anything that fits all the lines! :)

It's not General Madelene is it? She fits all lines except for the last one. (Damn the last line)

[Aerith's Knight]

theater ship?

[Quindiana Jones]

OMG PANTZ IZ BAK.

[Rantz]

Hey, I haven't been gone much longer than you :tongue:

[Quindiana Jones]

Yeah, but shut up. :love:

I've decided I'm just gonna have to play through Disk 1 again (omg tragedy) if PANTZ or Mr. 47's answers aren't correct.

[Eiko Guy]

Nothing elaborate.

The answer is all over the game. ALL over the game.

Hint: The answer is only half gone when it leaves.

[Caveroamer]

Evil Forest?

or Clerya Sandstorm?

[The Unknown Guru]

The jewels that summon Alexander? I dunno.

[belkor_teh_magnificent]

I would say the Crystal. Almost certainly wrong, and i can't make it fit all the reasoning yet, but it's a hunch. And it's on the games cover!

[Eiko Guy]

haha no guys.
If we reach page 60 and noon has guessed it I will say its color. whoo...

[Quindiana Jones]

Haha, dude, for me page 60 is another 29 pages away. :D

[Caveroamer]

I'm gonna guess the item that the moogles use on the Machine in Mognet Central, Superslick

[Caraliz]

the mist??

[Eiko Guy]

no to all.
Not an item

[Ace14]

page 60?! thats like another...9 pages away and about 270 posts. You're gonna give more hints before then right?

[Quindiana Jones]

Hints:
Gets replaced before the game ends.
Is given away freely.
Seen first on Disc One.
Colour is an important factor.

[sillybuttons™]

My next guess is Vivi

For now I'm gone (Dies)
But never forgotten (Of course net, who could forget Vivi)
Once used for protection (Spells perhaps)
But no longer so (Because of the whole being bereft of life thing)
I am never seen while im alive (Technically not alive because he is made of mist, the souls of the people of gaia)
But I still move but with help from my master. (The mist is maybe Vivis master)
Hints:
Gets replaced before the game ends. (Lots of little Vivis in the end FMV)
Is given away freely (on Disc 1) (Got me beat this line it throws the whole Vivi guess away)
Colour is an important factor. (Black - He's a Black Mage)

Oh wow this is really hard. I love this riddle. The hints have made it even harder and made me want to solve it even more. :mog:

[Eiko Guy]

This thing int given away freely on disc one. It's given away freely. And is first seen on disc one. You lso see This characters master very early as well.

Noone is correct.

[Quindiana Jones]

Have we been through the Black Waltzes? I reckon 3.

First and second lines: Vivi kicks his ass but he comes back.
Third and Fourth: The Waltzes were, in a sense, made for the "protection" of Garnet from those "evil kidnappers". They repeatedly say that they're there to safely return her to the castle I think. Or maybe not. But whatever. 3 goes barmy and tries to kill everyone.
Fifth and sixth: Once again, they're are machines really. Never truly alive, as they must obey they're masters Zorn and Thorn (or maybe Kuja?).

That's your lot for now. :bigsmile:

[Rantz]

You're probably right, you bastard.

[Quindiana Jones]

I don't think so. It has holes that I can't fill, but that could just be the differences in how eiko guy and I think. Fingers crossed though, eh? :D

And suck it, Rantz.

[Caraliz]

it's hair! garnet's hair! she cuts it all off. and hair is never alive!!!

i dunno. i'm being creative. :(

[Eiko Guy]

HAHAHHAHHAHHAHH
Feel the illinoise is correct.

For now I'm gone It's cut away
But never forgotten You can't forget her hair
Once used for protection hair used to be for protectio from heat and cold and stuffs
But no longer so We have clothes now
I am never seen while im alive Hair is dead once it leaves the follicleBut I still move but with help from my master. It moves when garnet moves.

[Quindiana Jones]

Wow. Me and eiko guy think REALLY differently. Haha, good riddle. Good answer too. Congrats to feel the illinoise!.

[Caraliz]

what do i do now?? :o

[BG-57]

You can make up a riddle of your own.

If you'd rather not, just leave it up for grabs.

[Caraliz]

I am neither the alpha nor the omega, but I am between them both.
I was born to rule.

There! Two hints.

[Rantz]

The enemy Mu? It's one of the middlemost letters in the greek alphabet :) I don't know about the second hint though.

[Caraliz]

The enemy Mu? It's one of the middlemost letters in the greek alphabet :) I don't know about the second hint though.

they go together! :love: oh, and no.

[BG-57]

Mace of Zeus? It's Greek and symbol of Zeus' power, the ruler of the gods.

[Ace14]

Bahamut?

No idea what he could have to do with the omega and alpha stuff but he's the ruler of dragons or king or something so yeah. :D

[Aerith's Knight]

Alexander?

[Caraliz]

Nope. I might have to think of more hints...

Hint: Think LARGE, but not as in size. :love: That doesn't mean think small in size, but maybe large could have a different meaning?

[Rantz]

The crystal? In the Final Fantasy IX logo, it's amidst a group of letters :p And of course, it's large in meaning for the game, while not exactly small in size.

[Caraliz]

nope! ;_;

[Aerith's Knight]

Zidane's ego? :D

[Rantz]

Ohoho, very witty. :p

[Ace14]

Necron? His power is large and so is he :D

[Caraliz]

Zidane's ego? :D
So close. So so so close. xD

[Ace14]

Zidane's love for women?

[Caraliz]

Zidane's love for women?
No, not a trait about him...

[Caveroamer]

Ultima Weapon?

[Rantz]

Uhm, Zidane himself? :monster:

[Caraliz]

Uhm, Zidane himself? :monster:
Bingo! Kuja is the first, and Mikoto is the last! :jess:

[Aerith's Knight]

his dagger?.. cause it seems very large for a dagger

[Quindiana Jones]

Rantzien's a hunk.

[Rantz]

Awesome. :jess:

My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

[Aerith's Knight]

black mages?.. maybe Kuja controlling them?

[Rantz]

No sir.

[leader of mortals]

is it vivi?

[Caveroamer]

Geonomes?

[Rantz]

Neither.

[Aerith's Knight]

A hunk of blue cheese?

[The Unknown Guru]

Garland?

[Caraliz]

Garland?
I was considering this...

[Rantz]

The riddle:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

Incorrect answers:
Black Mages
Kuja
Vivi
Genomes
Blue Cheese :-)
Garland

None right so far.

[Quindiana Jones]

I fucking hate you for this riddle, Rantz. :mad2: I haven't the ruddy foggiest, so I'm gonna have to go play the game again. :)

[demondude]

Necron? xD

[James Leopold]

Regent Cid?

[Rantz]

No to both. :)

I'm not gonna be anal about reasoning for your guesses, but it does help me help you. Picking the riddle apart and thinking aloud about each line will get you more feedback than fifty guesses.

And Quin, replay the game by all means, but I don't think it's going to help you much ;)

[Quindiana Jones]

Is it the game itself?

My calling now is not too far from what it was before - Maybe you've started playing it more often, like when you first got it?
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist? - This contradicts the first line of reasoning but whatever: you don't play it as much as you first did?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist! - It's a ruddy obsessive game.
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand - You control different characters, but they all think they're acting of their own accord. They don't know they're in a game.

I just guessed that from the "playing the game won't help" clue.

[Rantz]

Good thinking, but it's not an abstract answer in that way. What I meant was rather that you're unlikely to take notice of the answer in the game.

[Caraliz]

Stiener? :o

[Rantz]

Nope ;D

[Quindiana Jones]

If it's Lav Layderce again I'm gonna kill you. :D

[Rantz]

It's most certainly not Lavvy ^^

Edit: I may just as well be generous with hints. The answer is not anything inanimate.

[Aerith's Knight]

The lice that jumped off of Zidane's head when he entered evil forest?

[Ace14]

Queen uhh...something, I can't believe I forgot her name! :( I need to replay this game, it's the fat one ya know?

[Aerith's Knight]

queen stravagotzia or something.. the one that collects the stellagio

[Rantz]

It's not Queen Brahne, Queen Stella or any parasitical lifeform ;)

[Caraliz]

I've got it! It's... Rantz!

[Rantz]

I wish! :jess:

[Caraliz]

I wish! :jess:
is it the pointer on screen? :greenie:

[Rantz]

'tis not! The answer to this riddle is something that the characters may be aware of (i.e. it's not part of the user interface, the game case or anything like that).

[Quindiana Jones]

Could it possibly be the Card Master Phantom thingy bloke. I know you know what I mean. I'm too tired to give my reasoning. If it's right, I might haha.

[Rantz]

It's not correct, but I'll help more if you post your reasoning. Do as you wish! :monster:

[Ace14]

Is it the player of the game??


My calling now is not too far from what it was before

though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore- The player of the game won't hang out with their friends as much and will be a loser if they do nothing but play final fantasy 9

I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?- If you play the game non stop you'll be exhausted and won't even think you'll exist?

I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!- You'll lose feeling in your fingers if you keep playing but you'll get farther

Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command- Your a loser and you control the characters in the game?

they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand- you control the characters in the game

Probably really wrong but it was worth a try :D

[Rantz]

Nope. Again, the answer is not abstract to the characters in the game or outside of their world.

"Short, unknown and ugly" are epithets of three characters.

[Aerith's Knight]

vivi, amarant and steiner

[Rantz]

They're not any of the main characters.

[Selena_Akariko]

Somehow the first guess that comes to my mind is Black Waltz #3. I have no idea if it's right or wrong.

[Rantz]

Nope, sorry ^_^

The riddle contains references to a previous Final Fantasy.

[Ace14]

Is it those three twin brothers? The really ugly ones who worked with tantulas

[Rantz]

It's not the Nero brothers.

The riddle:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

Incorrect answers:
Black Mages
Kuja
Vivi
Genomes
Garland
Necron
Cid
The game
Steiner
Lav Layderce
Queen Brahne
Queen Stella
The pointer
Master Phantom
The player
Black Waltz #3
The Nero brothers

Hints:
The answer is not anything inanimate.
The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.
"Short, unknown and ugly" are epithets of three characters, although not any of the main characters.
The riddle contains references to a previous Final Fantasy.

[Aerith's Knight]

cloud squall and .. other guy

[Caraliz]

Yeah!!! Marcus, Cinna, Baku, etc etc?? :D

[Rantz]

Nope! Think about what you have that describes them, apart from the particular words short, unknown and ugly.

[Caraliz]

Dammit Rantz, give another hint puh-leeze. ;_;

[Rantz]

Sure! :)

"Short, unknown and ugly" are three separate people, i.e. one "short", one "unknown" and one "ugly". They hold a specific relation and are all significant characters to the game.

[Caveroamer]

Cinna = Ugly

Quina = Unknown (Gender)

Moogles = They are Short

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.

Well, actually, the moogle bros that theach you stuff do talk about menus, buttons, guages, and that sort of stuff. Just saying...

[Rantz]

It's not Cinna, Quina and a Moogle (or any of them). These three people are connected in a certain way.

[Eiko Guy]

short = cid
Ugly = brahne
Unknown = galand

Three leaders all being controlled by...mist?

[Rantz]

Cid and Brahne are indeed the ones the riddle calls "short" and "ugly". Garland, however, has no connection to the riddle or the answer. Who else could be the "unknown"?

[Caraliz]

is kuja unknown?

[Ace14]

Ozma? He/she/its unknown

[Rantz]

Nope. Remember that these three have a special connection.

[NeoCracker]

I'm going to take a stab and say "The King of Burmecia".

[Rantz]

Yup! Unknown because you never hear his name, in contrary to the other two.

So "short, unknown and ugly" refers to Regent Cid, the King of Burmecia and Queen Brahne. Now to carry on with the rest of the riddle!

Repost:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

[NeoCracker]

Kuja.

He was controlling their actions after all.

[Rantz]

No, sorry!

The reference to a previous Final Fantasy lies in the first two lines.

[Caraliz]

Do the first two lines refer to moogles? :o

[Rantz]

Nope, but you're thinking along the right lines from what I can tell. Moogles also have a similar relation between IX/the game being referenced to the the answer's. If that makes any sense. :)

[Quindiana Jones]

I was gonna say the Crystal, but then realised my reasonings didn't fit. I'll say it anyway so it gets checked off the list. :(

[Rantz]

It's not the crystal. :D

[Caraliz]

Is it the main character in the first two lines? :(

[NeoCracker]

I'm going to say Gilgamesh.

[Rantz]

No to you both.

The answer is a person.

[Quindiana Jones]

Is it someone that the characters can meet, or do they simply hear of him/her?

[Rantz]

In a way, you can meet this person, but not the characters.

[Quindiana Jones]

Hmmm.....so it's a character from a cutscene or one of their nifty little ATE thingies?

[Rantz]

Nope, not really. ;) I'm not gonna clue you more on that particular subject right now, it would make it too easy. Feel free to ask about other stuff though!

[Quindiana Jones]

Hmm....I have an idea. But I need to check my game before I do anything, because I can't remember what my answer will be.

[demondude]

A black mage?

[Rantz]

Nope, sorry.

The riddle:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

Incorrect answers:
Black Mage(s)
Kuja
Vivi
Genomes
Garland
Necron
Cid
The game
Steiner
Lav Layderce
Queen Brahne
Queen Stella
The pointer
Master Phantom
The player
Black Waltz #3
The Nero brothers
Moogles
The Crystal
Gilgamesh

Hints:
The answer is a person.
The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.
"Short, unknown and ugly" refers to Regent Cid, the King of Burmecia and Queen Brahne.
The first two lines contains references to a previous Final Fantasy.

[Caraliz]

Is the reason the character can't play with his friends and peers because of an illness or a "calling" ?

[Rantz]

I suppose you could say it's because of the person's current calling.

[Caraliz]

Does it have to do with a job class?

[Eiko Guy]

In the other final fantsy that is referenced to this person plays with us right. And now they don't do that but their purpose is the same.

The only people I can think of are gilgamesh and Carbunkle and I'm preety sure neither are correct.

I need to play more final fantasy.

[Rantz]

It does have to do with a job class! At least in a way, but it's not why the answer can't play with you.

eiko guy: Well put, only the purpose is not the same, but it's "not too far" from what it was.

It's not Gilgamesh or Carbunkle.

[Caraliz]

It does have to do with a job class! At least in a way, but it's not why the answer can't play with you.

eiko guy: Well put, only the purpose is not the same, but it's "not too far" from what it was.

It's not Gilgamesh or Carbunkle.
Is it a princess? Princess Garnet? :jess:

[Rantz]

It's not :(

The "calling" now and then are connected by theme only, and may not seem very alike in actuality.

[Aerith's Knight]

your riddles kill forums :p

[Rantz]

I prefer the term slowly suffocates.

[Caraliz]

It's not :(

The "calling" now and then are connected by theme only, and may not seem very alike in actuality.
Does it have to do with animals or people? =o

[qwertysaur]

The Ilfa tree?

[Caveroamer]

Ramuh?

[Rantz]

The calling might have to do with people :)

No right answers.

[Caraliz]

Aieee Rantz. What about a kingdom? :jess:

[Rantz]

Still pretty far off. :) Try and categorize the person from the info you have!

[Caraliz]

Is it Puck? :o

[Rantz]

Nope!

[Caveroamer]

is it Blank?

[Rantz]

No. The third line should be pretty descriptive, what does it tell you in plain language?

[Quindiana Jones]

It tells me the person is tired, maybe physically or mentally, and questions their own existence.

Beatrix does that at some point, but I can't find a way to relate her to the other lines. :(

[Rantz]

It's not so much that the person questions their own existence, but that their existence could be questioned.

Beatrix does unfortunately not win you the pot either way.

[Quindiana Jones]

Damn. I need a nice bit o' Mary. :(

Ah right, I gotcha doll.

[Caraliz]

RUBY. :jess:

[Rantz]

NOT :bigsmile:

"but through my work I will persist"
What does this make you think of? Can we assume it's a certain type of work? Also try and relate this to "Do I even still exist?".

[Caveroamer]

Mikoto?

[Rantz]

No, sorry.

[Firenjar]

I haven't played in a while so I don't know if they're even in it

Magus Sisters?
Or summoners?

[Rantz]

Nope.

[Caraliz]

NOT :bigsmile:

"but through my work I will persist"
What does this make you think of? Can we assume it's a certain type of work? Also try and relate this to "Do I even still exist?".
I can only think of the genomes and the black mages when you say "do I even still exist" ;_;

[Rantz]

Well it's not a philosophical line really, like in "do I exist if I'm a genome?". It's more brutal than that, so to say. The word "still" tells you what about the answer? :)

The riddle:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

Incorrect answers:
Black Mage(s)
Kuja
Vivi
Genomes
Garland
Necron
Cid
The game
Steiner
Lav Layderce
Queen Brahne
Queen Stella
The pointer
Master Phantom
The player
Black Waltz #3
The Nero brothers
Moogles
The Crystal
Gilgamesh
Carbuncle
Garnet
Iifa Tree
Ramuh
Puck
Blank
Beatrix
Ruby
Mikoto
Summoners

Hints:
The answer is a person.
The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.
"Short, unknown and ugly" refers to Regent Cid, the King of Burmecia and Queen Brahne.
The first two lines contains references to a previous Final Fantasy.
The existence of the answer could be questioned.

[Caraliz]

Is it a big or little character, in terms of importance to the game? ;_;

[Rantz]

Very little. :jess:

[Caraliz]

I need Harle here to help me with my reasoning. ;_;

Ummm. I can't think of anyone who has a little role in the game. I say we ... give Rantzien bubbles. :jess:

[Rantz]

To distract me and trick me into revealing the answer, I'd bet. :)

[Quindiana Jones]

Did someone call for aid? :cape:

So lemme get this straight in my head:

My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore - Old FF reference. The answer is like something in an older FF, but different.
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist! - It might not even exist, full stop. Which means it could be dead, but with it's "work" (ideas? Writings? Research on something?) it is still known in the game.
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command - Brahne, Burmecia, and Cid all use something related to the answer to do stuff.
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand - They would be powerless without it? Or, at least, they wouldn't be able to do something if the thing relating to this person wasn't around?

All that, and the fact that the answer is a person.

Is it one of the Cids? Cid I, I think. No....Cid VII. Cid VII invented airships, which are used by *reasoning fails due to the King of Burmecia*.

That rat bastard. :mad2:

[Rantz]

My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore - Old FF reference. The answer is like something in an older FF, but different.
So far, so good. The answer is like someone from an older FF, but with a different profession; although the professions are connected in a maybe not so obvious way. Likely to be one of the many backwards nods from SE.

I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist! - It might not even exist, full stop. Which means it could be dead, but with it's "work" (ideas? Writings? Research on something?) it is still known in the game.
Now we're getting somewhere! The job is not any of those you mention, but another type of job that can make you "immortal", in the abstract sense of the word. And yes, the answer might be dead, although we don't know for sure (and no, this does not mean it's him).

Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command - Brahne, Burmecia, and Cid all use something related to the answer to do stuff.
Nope, this particular line does not really relate to the answer, but only to B&B&C.

they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand - They would be powerless without it? Or, at least, they wouldn't be able to do something if the thing relating to this person wasn't around?
No. This line may be more relevant than you think at first. It's stuffed with information! :bigsmile:

Is it one of the Cids? Cid I, I think. No....Cid VII. Cid VII invented airships, which are used by *reasoning fails due to the King of Burmecia*.
It's not any of the Cids. I was going to make a riddle about one of them at first though, so bonus points for solving the riddle I never even made! Then I thought of this one which is far more genial. :razz:

[Caraliz]

My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore - Old FF reference. The answer is like something in an older FF, but different.
So far, so good. The answer is like someone from an older FF, but with a different profession; although the professions are connected in a maybe not so obvious way. Likely to be one of the many backwards nods from SE.

I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist! - It might not even exist, full stop. Which means it could be dead, but with it's "work" (ideas? Writings? Research on something?) it is still known in the game.
Now we're getting somewhere! The job is not any of those you mention, but another type of job that can make you "immortal", in the abstract sense of the word. And yes, the answer might be dead, although we don't know for sure (and no, this does not mean it's him).

Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command - Brahne, Burmecia, and Cid all use something related to the answer to do stuff.
Nope, this particular line does not really relate to the answer, but only to B&B&C.

they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand - They would be powerless without it? Or, at least, they wouldn't be able to do something if the thing relating to this person wasn't around?
No. This line may be more relevant than you think at first. It's stuffed with information! :bigsmile:

Is it one of the Cids? Cid I, I think. No....Cid VII. Cid VII invented airships, which are used by *reasoning fails due to the King of Burmecia*.
It's not any of the Cids. I was going to make a riddle about one of them at first though, so bonus points for solving the riddle I never even made! Then I thought of this one which is far more genial. :razz:
Is it a target?

[Rantz]

A target? I don't think so, but I'm not quite sure what you mean. :tongue:

[Caraliz]

Argh, I can't explain. just ignore that ;p

[Quindiana Jones]

And this person is easy to miss throughout the game, did you say?

Also, would I be on the right lines if I took "I can't feel my limbs" quite literally, and assumed this person no longer has limbs?

[Rantz]

Yup.

[Caraliz]

Hey~ Is it Blank in the petrified forest? :o

[NeoCracker]

Who in this games has no Limbs?

[Rantz]

And this person is easy to miss throughout the game, did you say?

Also, would I be on the right lines if I took "I can't feel my limbs" quite literally, and assumed this person no longer has limbs?

Yup.

Who in this games has no Limbs?
Sorry about this, it was a misunderstanding. My answer was to Quin's first question, then he slyly edited in the second question.

The person does presumably have most of their limbs intact; the phrase should however not be ignored, and Quinny is not on the wrong track!

Hey~ Is it Blank in the petrified forest? :o
Nope :(

[Quindiana Jones]

I hate you, Rantz. :love:

[Caraliz]

It reminds me of a really little person. Like the little engine that could. :(

[Rantz]

Again you're not making any sense Lazz :jess:

[demondude]

Is it that quiz monster? I can't remember the name. xD

[Rantz]

It's not the Ragtimer Mouse. :)

[Quindiana Jones]

Could it be someone who invented something? Or is a something named after the answer?

[Rantz]

Invented is closer, but not spot on.

[Caraliz]

See! It has to be the black mages. xD

[Rantz]

Maybe in the end I'll give in and admit that it actually is. :shifty:

[Selena_Akariko]

Now, a shomewhat random guess... Hades?
"Through my works I will persist" - he is the Great Synthesist, after all... "Can't feel my limbs" - well, he is sitting on the throne during the battle. And as far as I know, there was something like that in one of the previous FFs, no?

Just a guess.

:save: Selena

[Rantz]

It's not Hades. Synthesizing is even closer to the right type of work, however, although it's not a shop-type work.

[Quindiana Jones]

The only other synthesis I can think of is that big ass statue in Daguerro that turns your scabby old ores into nice, prettier rocks. I don't think there's a name on it though, and I can't think of a way that it'd fit with the rest.

Unless, of course, it was the fact that BB+C all had a nice pretty rock at some point.

[Rantz]

Nah, not that. The work is not anything that has to do with synthesis, that's just closer than invention.

[Quindiana Jones]

So this person didn't make something....more edited something that already existed? Did s/he make it his/her own? Meaning, did the older thing become obsolete and only the answer's remained popular? That is, assuming my first sentence is correct.

[Rantz]

I didn't say the answer never made anything... :bigsmile: And that's as far as I'll guide you on that particular subject.

The riddle:
My calling now is not too far from what it was before
though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!
Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand

Incorrect answers:
Black Mage(s)
Kuja
Vivi
Genomes
Garland
Necron
Cid (any of them)
The game
Steiner
Lav Layderce
Queen Brahne
Queen Stella
The pointer
Master Phantom
The player
Black Waltz #3
The Nero brothers
Moogles
The Crystal
Gilgamesh
Carbuncle
Garnet
Iifa Tree
Ramuh
Puck
Blank
Beatrix
Ruby
Mikoto
Summoners
Blank
Ragtimer Mouse
Hades

Hints:
The answer is a person.
The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.
"Short, unknown and ugly" refers to Regent Cid, the King of Burmecia and Queen Brahne.
The first two lines contains references to a previous Final Fantasy.
The existence of the answer could be questioned.
The answer is quite obscure, and of very little importance to the game.
It's unknown whether the person is alive or dead.

[Quindiana Jones]

You scratchy bitch. :love:

[Aerith's Knight]

The answer is quite obscure, and of very little importance to the game.

its your riddle, thats not a hint, thats a taken.

[Caraliz]

IS IT THE PAINTER? :bigsmile:

[Selena_Akariko]

Quan?

[My calling now is not too far from what it was before]
uh, not sure about that
[though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore]
well, he did go a way different from all the Qu's
[I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?
I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!]
Well, how would you feel if you starved for so long, yet were too stubborn to give up?
[Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand]
Not sure about that, either.

My guess match the following hints:

The answer is a person.
The answer exists in the game's world, i.e. it's not something the player could be aware of but not the characters.
The existence of the answer could be questioned.
The answer is quite obscure, and of very little importance to the game.
It's unknown whether the person is alive or dead. (I mean, Quan did appear in a secret scene with Vivi and Quina, right?)

Just another random guess.

:save: Selena

[demondude]

A frog?

[Rantz]

IS IT THE PAINTER? :bigsmile:
No!

Quan?
No!

A frog?
And no!

In the second line, the answer speaks to the party.

[Caveroamer]

is it Gogo, the guy the Old man in Danguerro tells you about that used to make dolls of people?

Reasoning

My calling now is not too far from what it was before

though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
(was playable in FFVI)

I am tired, weary; Do I even still exist?

I can't feel my limbs, but through my work I will persist!

Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command ( Cid,Brahe,King of Burmecia)

they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand ( He made dolls representing them)

[Rantz]

Correct! :jess: Do you want show your reasoning for it? Otherwise I'll submit my reasoning for it.

[Quindiana Jones]

Show the reasoning Rantz! I had no chance of getting this one. :love:

Well done, Caveroamer, you hunk. :bigsmile:

[Rantz]

My calling now is not too far from what it was before
In Final Fantasy VI, Gogo was a member of the party who was a Mimic. Back then, he imitated. Now he makes "dolls that look like real people", another form of imitation.

though I don't play with you much, friends and peers, not anymore
He's not in the playing party in this game.

I am tired, weary
When you exchange the Magical Fingertip (supposedly Gogo's) for the Excalibur, he says about the item: "Look at these fingers. They look worn-down, as if they never got a break."

Do I even still exist?
We do not know whether Gogo Godfingers still lives or not.

I can't feel my limbs
Considering his fingers or hand, or whatever the Magical Fingertip is, is an item you can achieve, he is likely not to be able to feel them anymore.

but through my work I will persist!
His dolls are handicraft that will continue to remind of him.

Though short, unknown and ugly may all well be in command
they do not see how they are mere puppets under my hand
Cid, The King of Burmecia and Brahne are (were) the leaders of their countries, but they are all made to dolls "under his hand".

Your go, Caveroamer, and good job!

Edit: It went on for 5 pages. I think that's a personal record. :bigsmile:

[Caveroamer]

Here it goes


Power to rule them all
Destroying things with a single blow
Do not underestimate me
For I am the bringer of Death

[NeoCracker]

I'm taking a stab and saying "The Invincible"

[Quindiana Jones]

I'd guess at Lvl. 5 Death. Or a character that can cast it, like Quina.

[Ace14]

Kuja?

[Caveroamer]

yeah the invincible

[NeoCracker]

Hellz yeah.

Whoever posts next can have the riddle, I can't make Riddles worth crap. :P

[Aerith's Knight]

as long as it isnt rantzien :p

[BG-57]

I'd like to have a go if you guys don't mind waiting until this evening.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm happy with BG-57 going next, and don't mind waiting a little while.

[BG-57]

OK, here we go:

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

[Aerith's Knight]

being garlands knight?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Caveroamer]

Steiner?

[NeoCracker]

If not Steiner, probably Beatrix.

[BG-57]

Neither Steiner nor Beatrix.

[NeoCracker]

Right, those two wouldn't make sense with that second part.

I'm going to take another guess with Amarant.

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
- The way Amarant lives his life is hardly a just way, he's a mercanary who lives for the fight. However

Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

The life he leads is definitely of a more vicious nature, hunting down men and all. However he manages to make it through just fine.

[BG-57]

Good guess but it's not Amarant either.

[demondude]

Beatrix?

[Rantz]

Already been guessed.

I'm thinking that "me" in the riddle could refer to the player, having to make a moral choice, where you'd actually gain [more] from choosing the immoral "code". I haven't found an example of that yet, though.

[BG-57]

You're on the right track, Rantzien.

Repost:

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

[The Unknown Guru]

Ugh. The kind of thing Rantzien is talking about is right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't remember an example in FFIX. Like in Morrowind where you can either choose to help people with their troubles or kill them and take their stuff.

[BG-57]

This riddle is similar to the clock puzzle in FFVIII.

[Lenna]

So, if its like the clock puzzle in ff8, it must be something to do with the orders of the stories about the invincible prototypes in Oelivert, and the means to retrieve the Gulug stone to save the rest of the group yes?

[BG-57]

No, think more in terms of how it is solved.

[Rantz]

The "Hero" story you puzzle together for Ramuh?

[BG-57]

Nope.

The method of solving applies to the riddle itself, not the answer.

[Rantz]

Does it have anything to do with the first letters of each line being roman numerals? :)

[BG-57]

Yes.

[Quindiana Jones]

Ack! I know it, but just don't quite know it! This is great haha.

[BG-57]

Would you like a hint?

[The Unknown Guru]

Yes, please. I've been kinda out of my logical reasoning groove for a while, and a hint would help.

[BG-57]

As Rantzien discovered, the first letter in each line represents a Roman numeral. These numbers can be combined, but they're in the correct order already. That limits the combination of possible numbers.

[_yeojina_]

Why am I so heavily reminded of the Knights of Pluto?
Yes, I know that the chances of this answer being right over a hunch are rather low, but I'm just saying. ^^;;

[BG-57]

It's not the Knights of Pluto, but I'm glad somebody's still guessing.

Repost:

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

[Rantz]

I got stuck on this a while ago, but I might as well post my notes on the possible number combinations:

1 1 5 1
1 1 6
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6

Of course these in themselves could be interpreted in a number of ways. I've checked for stats that match the numbers in some way, looked for clocks in the game that might show one of these as a time, and such. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. :)

[BG-57]

It's one of those number sequences. At this point you could solve it by elimination.

Repost:

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

[Rantz]

It's not the Ragtimer, is it?

[BG-57]

No, it's not a person.

[Aerith's Knight]

1511? xD

[BG-57]

Nope.

1 1 5 1
1 1 6
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6

[Aerith's Knight]

I remember that you had to put in a code at some point.. but for the life of me i cant remember where

[BG-57]

The numerical code does not literally appear in the game, but solving it will help you find the behavioral code that does.

[Rantz]

The frog catching game?

[Caveroamer]

2 6 ?

[BG-57]

The frog catching game?

Not the frog catching game.


2 6 ?

No.

1 1 5 1
1 1 6
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6

[Aerith's Knight]

251?

I know that number had some meaning in the game.

[Quindiana Jones]

Do the words in your riddle actually have any meaning, or were they merely chosen so the Roman numerals would fit?

I'm just wondering if this code is "vicious". Gnarly riddle, by the way. I like. :D

[BG-57]

251?

I know that number had some meaning in the game.

1 1 5 1
1 1 6
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6

It's not 2 5 1.


Do the words in your riddle actually have any meaning, or were they merely chosen so the Roman numerals would fit?

I'm just wondering if this code is "vicious". Gnarly riddle, by the way. I like. :D

A little of both, actually. The lines are relevant to the riddle, but I made sure to start with specific letters. For example As vicious as it is would read better than Vicious as it is, but I need a V there.

And yes I think most people would regard this code as vicious.

Glad you like it. :)

[Aerith's Knight]

Does it have to do with the candle code or the elevator code?

[BG-57]

No to both. It's not a literal code you have to type in at any point in the game, it's more of a moral code that you can choose to follow.

1 1 5 1
1 1 6
1 4 1
2 5 1
2 6

Repost:

Is this code just?
I follow it anyway
Vicious as it is
It will serve me well

[Aerith's Knight]

ooh i get it

1 4 1

one for one..

[BG-57]

That's the correct numerical sequence, yes. :)

You've correctly read the IV as representing the word For, but you need to pronounce the Is differently.

[Quindiana Jones]

The move "Eye For Eye"? Which increases the chance of you smacking the crap out of someone who attacks you, which is kinda mean and vicious ;), but it can serve you well. :D

[Aerith's Knight]

thats just stealing the answer HARLE :mad:

[Rantz]

Nice riddle. :)

[Quindiana Jones]

thats just stealing the answer HARLE :mad:

Damn right. Y'all do all the legwork, I'll take all the glory. :D

Personally, I think BG-57 wins this one for practically telling us the answer. :laugh:

[Aerith's Knight]

thats true i suppose.. it was a pretty tough one.

[BG-57]

I suppose I'll have to confirm, it is Eye 4 Eye.

Incidently it's taken from the Code of Hammurabi, which is the first written codified set of laws. It's pretty harsh by modern standards, but it was an improvement over simple revenge killings.

Your go, Harle-Quin. :)

[Quindiana Jones]

Wow. Interesting. Good riddle.

I haven't played recently, so can't think of one. Aerith's Knight or Rantzien can have my go, as they contributed the most.