::Limit Break, The best part??::

[silent_ultima]

Guys...
the part when Cloud was healed by a rain in the church.. is that Aeris's Final Limit? Damn that was cool!!

and.. when Kadaj summon a monster from above, is that the Ultima Weapon?

and.. When Kadaj summoned Sephiroth.. is that REALLY Sephiroth? isn't he suppose to be dead?? whatever it is.. damn Sephiroth rules!!!!

[Sephiroth_Lionhear88]

the monster kadaj summons comes from a materia he took from cloud so it's Bahamut neo or zero i don't know

and kadaj didn't summon seph kadaj BECAME seph it's what vincent said kadaj is a larva and he will some day turn into seph but it happened sooner then expected

[KuRt]

Guys...
the part when Cloud was healed by a rain in the church.. is that Aeris's Final Limit? Damn that was cool!!

and.. when Kadaj summon a monster from above, is that the Ultima Weapon?

and.. When Kadaj summoned Sephiroth.. is that REALLY Sephiroth? isn't he suppose to be dead?? whatever it is.. damn Sephiroth rules!!!!

Don´t know about was that Great Gospel but when Cloud hit kadaj hangin on the edge, he used Finishing Touch

Kadaj summoned Neo Bahamut

It wasn´t truly Sephiroth, it was sumpn like sephiroth´s soul in Kadaj

EDIT: BTW, cloud also tried to use Braver in the end against Yazoo and Loz when they hit him with fire

[*ETERNAL FANTASY*]

I guess u can call it great gospel, minus the angels, wait...tewcnically Aeris is an angel so yea...dont see why not that could be a limit break! Most of the limit breaks are subtly put in anyways :P

He also tried braver on sephy but missed!!

Tifa also did part of her limit Somersault i think its called...i dont know about this but i think u can count barret using a limit break, the first level one, except it was green in the movie...hmm!

And i think it IS Sephy someone mentioned it on another forum how sephiroths characteristics were split into the three SHM and when u have jenovas cells that started it all, you know put the two together and you got your mix of a badass villian!

[Quoter]

it was a sephiroth clone with his memories, they were all clones of Sephiroth who supposedly somehow survived the first reunion which might account for why they are so strong

or another theory could be that they're all just spirits and each one symbolizes a different aspect of Sephiroth and that they materialized when Shinra tried to take the head from the crater.

the Bahamut he summoned was Bahamut Sin which was not in the video game, you can check out it's toy if you don't believe me

[Shoden]

They are spirits of Sephiroth who became real after escaping the lifestream, they are larvae of Sephiroth, He turned into a vessel for Sephiroth's soul after absorbing Jenova's head.


Cloud used Finishing Touch and Half of Omnislash, Barret tried to use Big shot but failed both times.

[Squall of SeeD]

Guys, you're all wrong in some way, though between all of you, you have this stuff right.

1) The creature that Kadaj summoned is Bahamut Sin.
2) Aerith isn't an angel.
3) Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz are Remnants of Sephiroth, which is to say that when his body was blown apart, the JENOVA Cells he melded with reformed into these three guys and they were seeking to reunite. They are not black-cloaked folks who didn't die at the original Reunion, as the bodies of these three are completely composed of JENOVA's Cells, whereas the bodies of those guys (like Cloud) were obviously not.
4) It was really Sephiroth that Cloud fought. He and JENOVA are one, thus, he is a virus. He exists in all of JENOVA's Cells because he is JENOVA.

[Shoden]

thats a good explanation but the reuniting part doesn't make sense to me as they seeked out Jenova's head

[silent_ultima]

well it does look like Great Gospel..

Bahamut Sin? Where did you guys got this info? :eek: And I missed the part where Cloud tried to used Omnislash.. where was that part?

The movie is kinda short to me.. propably becoz the story strictly follow Cloud's story..

So lemme get this straight.. Sephiroth DIDN'T DIE coz he IS JENOVA, rite? ANd the last part.. the part where Cloud suppose to 'reunite' with KYL, the a woman's voice.. say something about Cloud is too 'old' or something like that.. that's JENOVA'S VOICE?

Damn I'm kinda confuse with this reunion thingie.. propably becoz it's been 2 or 3 years since I last played FF7..

[deejay]

I thought that was aeris' voice..

[silent_ultima]

yeah i tot so too..
it does sound like aeris..
but it says sumthing like cloud is too 'old' to be her son..
or did i hear it wrong?

[Sefie1999AD]

*SPOILERS BELOW!*


I think the best limit breaks are when Tifa does her combo to Loz and when Cloud Omnislashes Sephiroth. I think Aeris also did some kind of limit breaks in the movie.

As for the storyline things, I think Square left things up for our own interpretation, so you're free to make up your own ideas about the story, such as what Aeris is, what Kadaj/Yazoo/Loz are, whether the final battle has Cloud fighting Kadaj, Jenova, Sephiroth, Don Corneo, none of them, all of them, some of them etc. So don't let anyone tell you their interpretation is a fact and your way of seeing the movie is wrong, it's just speculation and their opinion. :) silent_ultima, it's said nowhere in the movie that the creature is called Bahamut Sin, though if you check some of AC's merchandise, you can find an action figure that is called Bahamut-Sin. I just call him Bahamut myself, but if someone wants to call him a Weapon (I've seen a few people who think the creature was a Weapon), then be my guest as we never saw Kadaj holding red Summon Materia when the creature appeared. :)

As for how I saw the ending (this is just my opinion, though), I think the one talking to Kadaj and Cloud is Aeris, I don't think she's Jenova because Jenova's voice is seen nowhere in the ending credits. Kadaj is born from the Lifestream just like every other being on the Planet, so when he dies, he returns to the Lifestream, and Aeris welcomes him back when he dies. As for what Aeris (and Zack) said to Cloud, I just thought it was her way of saying, "Your time hasn't come yet. Come back to life."

[silent_ultima]

yeah i think you're rite Sephiroth1999AD..

Don Corneo?? The perv? hehehhe that's funny.....
and yeah u'r interpretation of the ending make sense... just wanna look the Omnislash that Cloud did to Sephiroth

Yeah Aeris did do her limit breaks (Great Gospel) in the church that healed Cloud's Geostigma...

[Sefie1999AD]

BTW What's the limit break Cloud uses to eliminate Yazoo and Loz for good? It looks a bit like Braver, but I'm not sure. And isn't it weird how Cloud can take a sword through his stomach and other things in FFVII, he was even able to defeat Sephiroth when he was a normal person who had Sephiroth's sword impaled through his stomach, and in AC, he gets killed when Yazoo shoots him to the back? EDIT: Or was it the explosion on the roof? Something killed him, at least, and then Aeris and Zack sent him back to life.

[Craig]

Uh, no he doesn't.

[KuRt]

yeah i tot so too..
it does sound like aeris..
but it says sumthing like cloud is too 'old' to be her son..
or did i hear it wrong?
Cloud said "mother.." and Aeris answered "again! how many times you´ve been calling me mother now?"
Zack replis: "Doesn´t it feel good to be yearned for?"
Aeris replies: "I don´t need a kid this big!"
at least if I remember correctly

[Lionx]

I am pretty sure Sephiroth and JENOVA are two seperate entities and we established that a while ago..O_o

[Shoden]

Cloud was never stabbed in the stomach it was his right shoulder In FFVII and AC.

[KH-Cloudy]

Didnt Cloud get shot at too?By that long hair dude with a gun.

[Maxico]

Cloud was never stabbed in the stomach it was his right shoulder In FFVII and AC.

According to Last Order, he gets stabbed in the chest. Although they did change quite a few things in that.

[anthrox]

Cloud was never stabbed in the stomach it was his right shoulder In FFVII and AC.

According to Last Order, he gets stabbed in the chest. Although they did change quite a few things in that.

Not so sure he gets stabbed at all in the game. I think he just holds the sword and fakes the stab.

And sure it is Aeris who says i dont need a kid this big, Cloud is always disillusioned and doesnt now whats happening.
And isnt it pretty obvious that the dragon is Bahamut? they have alwways made bahamut look different in all the games but they always have some similarity.

and besides, Cloud uses blade beam a couple of times too

[Shoden]

I only spotted 1 Blade beam.

[s[H]sIkuA]

*SPOILERS BELOW!*


I think the best limit breaks are when Tifa does her combo to Loz and when Cloud Omnislashes Sephiroth. I think Aeris also did some kind of limit breaks in the movie.

As for the storyline things, I think Square left things up for our own interpretation, so you're free to make up your own ideas about the story, such as what Aeris is, what Kadaj/Yazoo/Loz are, whether the final battle has Cloud fighting Kadaj, Jenova, Sephiroth, Don Corneo, none of them, all of them, some of them etc. So don't let anyone tell you their interpretation is a fact and your way of seeing the movie is wrong, it's just speculation and their opinion. :) silent_ultima, it's said nowhere in the movie that the creature is called Bahamut Sin, though if you check some of AC's merchandise, you can find an action figure that is called Bahamut-Sin. I just call him Bahamut myself, but if someone wants to call him a Weapon (I've seen a few people who think the creature was a Weapon), then be my guest as we never saw Kadaj holding red Summon Materia when the creature appeared. :)

As for how I saw the ending (this is just my opinion, though), I think the one talking to Kadaj and Cloud is Aeris, I don't think she's Jenova because Jenova's voice is seen nowhere in the ending credits. Kadaj is born from the Lifestream just like every other being on the Planet, so when he dies, he returns to the Lifestream, and Aeris welcomes him back when he dies. As for what Aeris (and Zack) said to Cloud, I just thought it was her way of saying, "Your time hasn't come yet. Come back to life."

its Bahamut Sin, it is stated in advent children website
http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/characters.php

and yeah the voice is Aeris and Zack, Zack is telling him this is not your place and Aeris is laughing and say "I dont need such a big child" cause Cloud say "Mother"

[Sefie1999AD]

sIkuA']its Bahamut Sin, it is stated in advent children website
http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/movie/characters.php

Except that's a fansite, not an official one. :D

[Ultimate Weapon]

Wow, you guys are stupid. It's Bahamut Shin!

[RedXIII]

OK PPL! ITS BAHAMUT SIN! ok, now that we all know that for the 50millionth time, on to seph. Ok, vincient has the right idea. He says that cloud is just a larva, with the thoughts of seph inside him. Now this is y the geostigma syndrome plays such a big part. It is the cells of jenova. That is y kadj and his gang want to have that reunion and they round up all the kids witht he geostigma in them. These r cells of jenova. THey say this in the movie god damn it. Pay attention. Second, the reason y kadj was able to turn into speh. Same as with cloud, he has sephs thoughts inside of him. And then, he produced a renunion by shoving the neck of jenova into him. This caused a reunion with allowed seph to come back.

[Jet_Jockey]

no disrespect to any users at all in this thread.

Aeris talks to cloud (supposedly) on the phone montage while its sinking in Ajit, Forgotten Capital. "I've never thought badly of you, you came for me though, that's enought right there."

Aeris appears throughout the movie as a wolf, at the beginning, right after the phone montage thingie, and after cloud is sent back to earth.

It's not great Gospel at all, it was the lifestream, notice how it seemed to move independently and twirl a lot, and was also green, (and would make a lot more sense, Aeris cured the jenova cells in the lifestream which in turn would cure the Geostigma)

Cloud also braver-ed bahamut just before he flies up to meet him (when every one else stops fighting and watches cloud), and also during the sephiroth battle you see him do one to sephiroth while sephiroth is cutting chunks of rubble towards him.

this movie was also used as an explanatory tool as there was a big discussion as to how gunblades worked, how materia worked.

and in response to the omnislash, yes i think that is correct as if you listen closely you can hear a timer beeping as he cuts through sephiroth.

Phew...

[Shoden]

no Vincent says the SHM are Sephiroth Larvae. Geostigma is what happens when the body goes into overdrive to expell Jenova cells but it tires out as the jenova cells rush through the blood, It results in Geostigma.

[=Angelus=]

Hmm... heres my interpretation of the Limit breaks

Cloud sure used alot as the main character.. alot of bravers, blade beam, finishing touch, omnislash, climhazzard (i believe this should be the one to cut the "bahamut sin" we've all been seeing)
altogether, i think the best way to know is when his sword starts shining bluish.. thats just when everything starts happening :p

Tifa used part of her full set combo, particularly beat rush and somasault, but its cute to hear that victory ringtone of.. was it Loz? :p seems almost like a main event of a FFVII battle to me

I think i saw Nanaki use sled fang, Barret using big shot, and Yuffie using Greased Lightning..
And more importantly, Cid using Boost Jump, and his Lvl 5 limit break Sierra!! (which doesn't do much :D )

not sure, but Cait sith and Vincent didn't use anything spectacular.... a gallant beast would be nice... :(

[RaidenWeb17]

Hmm... heres my interpretation of the Limit breaks

Cloud sure used alot as the main character.. alot of bravers, blade beam, finishing touch, omnislash, climhazzard (i believe this should be the one to cut the "bahamut sin" we've all been seeing)
altogether, i think the best way to know is when his sword starts shining bluish.. thats just when everything starts happening :p

Tifa used part of her full set combo, particularly beat rush and somasault, but its cute to hear that victory ringtone of.. was it Loz? :p seems almost like a main event of a FFVII battle to me

I think i saw Nanaki use sled fang, Barret using big shot, and Yuffie using Greased Lightning..
And more importantly, Cid using Boost Jump, and his Lvl 5 limit break Sierra!! (which doesn't do much :D )

not sure, but Cait sith and Vincent didn't use anything spectacular.... a gallant beast would be nice... :(

lvl 5?