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Lost Number
05-22-2006, 08:34 PM
no

Emerald weapon
05-22-2006, 09:27 PM
the island were you fight tht monster to get carob nuts,withought you cant get a gold chocobo which is a important matter indeed

Lost Number
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
nope.

HolyMackeral
05-23-2006, 05:56 AM
Chocobo Sage?

farplaner
05-23-2006, 08:28 AM
So are you looking for the name of the continent or what? I can't tell.

Lost Number
05-23-2006, 07:10 PM
So are you looking for the name of the continent or what? I can't tell.
Im looking for the answer to the riddle.

I have a face few would be proud of
But a certain granduer nonetheless.
Few, if any, know my purpose,
And little it must seem,
But of great matters I surely handle,
Between the green and the white.

Ok, so ya understand, last line - TOTALLY LITERAL. it is between something coloured WHITE and summat coloured GREEN.
Also, it is not a monster or a continent.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-23-2006, 07:43 PM
cait sith?

Lost Number
05-23-2006, 08:07 PM
nope

Laugh at face of Danger
05-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Vincent!

(yes i AM randomly guessing)

Lost Number
05-23-2006, 11:02 PM
Vincent!

(yes i AM randomly guessing)
Please dont.

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-24-2006, 01:41 AM
is it the emerald weapon:choc2:

farplaner
05-24-2006, 06:41 AM
So are you looking for the name of the continent or what? I can't tell.

Im looking for the answer to the riddle.

...very clever. I read something else, which I thought was the riddle...and it didn't seem to make sense.

As far as your riddle...no clue

jesteranimefreak
05-24-2006, 04:49 PM
Holy -- The White Materia? Edit: never mind didn't check previous answers... don't yell at me!

Lost Number
05-24-2006, 05:36 PM
I'LL YELL AT YOU ANYWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!
Ande Emerald Weapon has ALSO been guessed.

Cledarius
05-24-2006, 06:35 PM
Forgive me for making two guesses:

1. Is it the big Rocket in Rocket town?

I have a face few would be proud of --> it's old
But a certain granduer nonetheless. duh
Few, if any, know my purpose, --> few people know why the rocket's there
And little it must seem, --> it's just a project from shinra
But of great matters I surely handle, --> later when Meteor say's hello
Between the green and the white --> hmmm that's still hard, hmm green earth, and the white stars in space?

2. Lifestream or better, the world itself?

I have a face few would be proud of --> The planet itself is a mess, because of shinra, or the old crater
But a certain granduer nonetheless.
Few, if any, know my purpose, --> I think only Bugenhagen knows everything 'bout it.
And little it must seem, --> for shinra it's just energy
But of great matters I surely handle, -->again, when meteor say's hello,
Between the green and the white. --> the power of the lifestream? Lifestream is green and white.

uuuuuuuh, don't know.....:confused:

Emerald weapon
05-24-2006, 06:38 PM
is it metor in ffvii logo?

solidusoul
05-24-2006, 06:41 PM
Two guesses

Is it Rufus?

or

Is it Heidegger?

Lost Number
05-24-2006, 06:41 PM
no no and no. WAY off.

Emerald weapon
05-24-2006, 09:14 PM
bahamut zero??

Lost Number
05-24-2006, 09:18 PM
nope

Emerald weapon
05-24-2006, 09:43 PM
reeve or scarlet

Lost Number
05-24-2006, 09:44 PM
no an no

Mercen-X
05-24-2006, 09:47 PM
Is it an item?

Lost Number
05-24-2006, 09:49 PM
NO!


also, no more random guesses. They will be ignored as wrong.

Emerald weapon
05-24-2006, 09:51 PM
the mako pit?in north crater

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-25-2006, 02:31 AM
I'LL YELL AT YOU ANYWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!
Ande Emerald Weapon has ALSO been guessed.


damn me to hell for trying to guess your riddle momma!

Cledarius
05-25-2006, 10:54 AM
Ok, another try....is it Palmer? The fat guy who get hit by a truck?

I have a face few would be proud of --> he's ugly
But a certain granduer nonetheless. --> doink
Few, if any, know my purpose, --> what does he do? Beside running around in panic and get hit by a truck?
And little it must seem, --> senseless person?
But of great matters I surely handle, --> because of him, Cid joins Cloud's party because they have to flee with Tiny Bronco
Between the green and the white. --> This means he's standing between Heidegger (green clothes) and Rufus (white clothes)

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-25-2006, 11:58 AM
no more random guesses eh?

cloud!?

Tifa!?

MAPLE SYRUP!?

*ahem*

but seriously now, i'm going to guess that it's sephiroth . . . hear me out

i have a face few would be proud of--> he's grey, hence old
but a certain grandeur none the less--> he's always poetic and prophecising
few, if any, know my purpose--> only a select few (cloud's troupe and shinra namely) know sephiroth's intentions, and even some of them aren't totally sure
and little it must seem--> originally think sephiroth's intention is to revive jenova, not blow up stuff
but of great matters i surely handle--> well blowing up the world is pretty huge
between the green and the white--> stops the holy from achieving it's purpose of turning white from green

Lost Number
05-25-2006, 06:42 PM
no sry

HolyMackeral
05-25-2006, 08:28 PM
Time for a hint?

Laugh at face of Danger
05-25-2006, 09:05 PM
Just for the record, we have guessed the following things:
Hojo
Weapons
Zemzelett
Don
Red
Mr Coates
Jenova
Bone Village
Carbot Nut Island (?)
Chocobo Sage
Cait Sith
Vincent
Lifestream
Rocket
Meteor from logo
Rufus
Heidegger
Bahamut Zero
Reeve
Scarlet
Mako Pit
Palmer
and Sephiroth
We know it's not an item, not a monster and not a continent:
So it can be a character of a town/city/landmark?
~ and on top of that, it has got to dow ith green and white... !?

Lost Number
05-25-2006, 10:47 PM
A hint? Gimme time to think.w

Sparky
05-26-2006, 12:20 AM
my guess is the junon cannon

and you need to back off everybodies asses bc not everybody thinks like you; you dumbass idiotic sun-of-a-bitch

Masamunemaster
05-26-2006, 12:21 AM
get 'em sparky

Mercen-X
05-26-2006, 12:36 AM
you dumbass idiotic sun-of-a-bitchYou might want to be careful with your posts, Sparky.

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-26-2006, 12:52 AM
my guess is the junon cannon

and you need to back off everybodies asses bc not everybody thinks like you; you dumbass idiotic sun-of-a-bitch


funny, but lighten up a bit so you don't get banned. :choc2:

Sparky
05-26-2006, 01:07 AM
I can't help it

It is a thing that royally pisses me off when people go off on others for not getting the right guess the first time

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-26-2006, 01:14 AM
it makes me mad too, but just be carefull not to get banned. its really easy to piss the moderators off. i know!:choc2:

Masamunemaster
05-26-2006, 01:22 AM
why do you have something to do with that "guy last of the soldier"?

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-26-2006, 01:23 AM
why do you have something to do with that "guy last of the soldier"?


i don't just tryed to piss him off at me, which obviously he piss the moderaters off because he is gone. maybe he will leave me the hell alone.:choc2:

Masamunemaster
05-26-2006, 01:25 AM
or so you say

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-26-2006, 02:01 AM
alright, whatever you say buddy.:choc2:

Masamunemaster
05-26-2006, 07:03 AM
just pretend like you don't know l.o.t.s.

Cledarius
05-26-2006, 10:37 AM
Hey guys, we're here for riddles, not to piss each other off or discuss about it!

Lost Number
05-26-2006, 04:35 PM
It not popl not gtting it right first tim, its peopl dfying simpl logic and posting dumbass answers!

musenji
05-26-2006, 08:38 PM
Considering the following from one of your previous riddles:

"humanity's best friend, always there in times of need"

And your logic for it:

"Hades is, of course, a skeleton, and representive of death. Death, who is humanitys greatest friend...to anyone suffering a mortal wound in agony...death sure is a great friend. Always there when needed."

It does appear as though you expect people to make jumps of reasoning that are incredibly far-fetched, and that even intelligent people wouldn't dream up (unless they were really, really pessimistic or suffering a mortal wound in agony themselves).

Also, it's interesting how pushing the guessers and acting superior both tend to increase random guessing rather than decrease it.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-26-2006, 08:58 PM
well, emo's might dream up something that far-fetched and depressing :D

Lost Number
05-26-2006, 09:23 PM
well, emo's might dream up something that far-fetched and depressing :D
Ha. Ha.

Vincent_The_Vampire
05-27-2006, 04:17 PM
Hmm...

Lost Number
05-27-2006, 11:52 PM
It may help you to know that this riddle, aside from ONE big metaphor, contains no others. The one is fairly easy to grasp.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-28-2006, 02:25 PM
t save people flicking back, here's Lost number's riddle again

i have a face few would be proud of
but a certain grandeur none the less
few, if any, know my purpose
and little it must seem
but of great matters i surely handle
between the green and the white

previous guesses and given hints have been posted by "laugh at face of danger" at the top of this page

. . . . i still have no idea tho :D

Dell
05-28-2006, 04:00 PM
I say Mako Reactor

I have a face few would be proud of - Some people in FFVII like this as it bring modern life and good facility.

But a certain grandeur none the less - ???

Few, if any, know my purpose - Mako purpose is to absorb Spirit Power only some of it know

And little it must seem - Very little people know it (Shin-Ra, People of Cosmo Canyon and the party)

But of great matters I surely handle - Providing good life as well as powering Shin-Ra soldier etc. of Mako goodness

Between the green and the white - ???

My reason are a bit off. Sorry for that, at least I try! not just guessing.

Guys, stop this, or you guys wind up banned. Lost Number, they don't mean it so don't follow your emotion too much. Cool Down.

andrewsim92
05-28-2006, 04:18 PM
my guess would be the forgotten capital(city of the ancients)

it links the green continent (bone village) and the white one(icicle inn)

Lost Number
05-28-2006, 06:33 PM
Actually, Vivi_Ultima is by far the closest yet in answer.

Also, if I wish to get myself banned, that is up to me.

DoaJ
05-28-2006, 10:26 PM
O.O......whatever. Have fun. But, I have a guess.

i have a face few would be proud of - Cloud was in soldier, his eyes give him away and he's not proud of it.
but a certain grandeur none the less - It made him powerful enough to save the world
few, if any, know my purpose - Self explanatory
and little it must seem - To get revenge on Sepgiroth? Unimprotant.
but of great matters i surely handle - He's done quite a bit.
between the green and the white - ......hmmm...I dunno...
I tried though. : )

HolyMackeral
05-29-2006, 05:28 AM
Those pod things in the Nibelheim reactor? Or maybe the Jenova statue/containment thing in the same area?

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-29-2006, 01:17 PM
i'm going to say materia

going on what you said about vivi_ultima being close and that it has a range of colours from green to white

Lost Number
05-29-2006, 04:33 PM
No, please, it is BETWEEN two colours. AS IN 2 objects of those colours

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-29-2006, 07:24 PM
yuffie's belt :D

in between her white shorts and her green shirt :D

. . . your not even gonna dignify this with an answer are you!?

Lost Number
05-29-2006, 07:34 PM
Actually, as regards to colours, you have the right idea. Now bugger off and think on it.

andrewsim92
05-30-2006, 03:36 AM
this is the hardest so far.....anyway im new here.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
05-30-2006, 10:39 AM
HEY! welcome to eyesonff! now, colaborate and help us solve this :D

Crop
05-30-2006, 12:07 PM
Midgar

Lenna
05-30-2006, 01:22 PM
It's only the hardest because it's not been solved yet.

People, LN had told me before that the answer can only be found at one point during the game, the white object moves, but not fast enough to be completely missed. Think of that carefully.

Thingfish
05-30-2006, 01:54 PM
this is the hardest so far...

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

andrewsim92
05-30-2006, 02:50 PM
is it that thing that drops from aeris's hair when she dies?

Lenna
05-30-2006, 03:10 PM
andrew, that's the holy materia, and that's already been said, look back or LN will have your fingers for dinner xD

andrewsim92
05-30-2006, 04:34 PM
LN we need some hints

u mentioned the closest answer was the mako reactor so.....it must have something to do with :

mako
lifestream
anywhere that contains a reactor.......:cool:

Emerald weapon
05-30-2006, 05:16 PM
titan or the broncosaurus with wheels?

Lost Number
05-30-2006, 07:31 PM
ok, andrew...*eats the foo's fingers and hand, I missed lunch...*
Thingfish...ditto, this is easy.
All else, is wrong, ill try and think of a hint, but i dont want to make this TOO easy.

Lenna
05-30-2006, 10:02 PM
i have a face few would be proud of
but a certain grandeur none the less
few, if any, know my purpose
and little it must seem
but of great matters i surely handle
between the green and the white

I think I got it!!!

At the start of the game in the first reactor, just before you fight the scorpian guard, there is a valve/vault thing. Above it is steam/water vapour (white which moves), and before it is the restore materia(green materia). You don't actually find out what this valve does, but the characters and shinra do, they use it to blow it up, therefore it must have some importance if it was used to blow up the whole of the reactor. You wouldn't exactly blow up the side of the reactor if it had no source to carry the explosion on would it? I think the face few would be proud of is the fact it's used to help give people electricity as well as help destroy the planet. Only some people like mako reactors, the majority don't.

Lost Number
05-30-2006, 10:09 PM
Very good, 100% correct, as expected. No jumps of reasoning that are incredibly far-fetched, ok?????

andrewsim92
05-31-2006, 07:00 AM
hey lenna,

you r really good at this!!:D

Lenna
05-31-2006, 04:40 PM
Can I just say, aparantly, by an anonymous source I apparently was helped privately with the answer to this riddle. I would just like to say, yes I did question LN outside of the thread to get instant answers, BUT everything and only anything I learned from him I posted on here. All he told me is that the White moves, it can be found at only one point in the game, and that you didn't go fast enough to miss it. That was ALL the hints I got and that was through interrogation. If you look up about 9 posts you'll see that I posted those hints. So it's not like I kept it all to myself.

What you think I am,
I'm not.
What I could be,
I cast behind,
my link is with the golden,
yet no direct encounter made.

there you go.

Twilight Edge
05-31-2006, 07:54 PM
Errr...just guessing...Knights of The Round ?

What you think I am,
I'm not.--->don't really get this part here.I'll try to think more.
What I could be,
I cast behind,--->Err.Arthur comes out last,deson't he?
my link is with the golden,--->you can only get the materia with a golden chocobo.
yet no direct encounter made--->But there's no direct connection between a chocobo and 13 knights.

Lost Number
05-31-2006, 08:11 PM
Ok, here is what ive got so far.
The object is inanimate, and seemingly hard to spot. It is mistaken for something else, which is actually behind it.

Emerald weapon
05-31-2006, 09:22 PM
the pheonix downs you nick from the little chickens on the road to corel??

CHOCOBO KEV
05-31-2006, 09:30 PM
IS IT THE MOUNTAIN IN WUTI
THE TEMPLE OF THE ANCHENTS
CAIT SITHS REAL BODY
THE SEPHIROTH SWORD IN THE CANYON

THE PHIONIX ON THE MOUNTAIN???


the pheonix downs you nick from the little chickens on the road to corel??

WHO MISTAKES CHICKENS AND PHINIX DOWNS ALTHO IF THEY WERE IN THE SHAPE OF PHINIX THEN...


......I'M CONFUSED SO I DONT KNOW HOW YOU FEEL

HolyMackeral
06-01-2006, 05:14 AM
The black materia pyramid?

Dell
06-01-2006, 05:47 AM
Nuts?

What you think I am,
I'm not. ---> I think it's a food but it's not the objective
What I could be,
I cast behind, ---> Nuts objective is to breed chocobo but the nuts is totally NUTS! Get a nut from a dinosaur and a goblin? What nonsense!!?
my link is with the golden, ---> Zeio Nuts is use to breed Gold Chocobo
yet no direct encounter made ---> Chocobo breed using nuts??? This game = NONSENSE!!!!

Is this ok, Lenna?

Lenna
06-01-2006, 02:19 PM
Ok, here is what ive got so far.
The object is inanimate, and seemingly hard to spot. It is mistaken for something else, which is actually behind it.

It CAN be mistaken as something else as they both look extremely similar, but they are not the same thing.

The object is inanimate, and the answer itself is not hard to spot. You just wouldn't know the name of it by looking at it. You have to search for the answer's name. Also the what I could be and what I am not are the same thing, it's what you may think is it's twin. But they are not the same thing.

Thingfish
06-01-2006, 03:17 PM
I think I've guessed the answer, but I don't want to spoil everyone else's fun in guessing it. It's a beauty, though, and took all my skill to divulge it!

:D

Cledarius
06-01-2006, 07:22 PM
The Black Materia holo-thing in the old temple??

What you think I am, --> At first you think it's the Black Materia
I'm not. -->
What I could be, --> It looks like the temple
I cast behind,
my link is with the golden, --> the room where you can find it is golden or at least yellow
yet no direct encounter made. -.-' duh

Emerald weapon
06-01-2006, 09:11 PM
yoskishi-the sword the old guy in rocket town gives you,cuz it looks like sephys musamune

Twilight Edge
06-02-2006, 02:27 AM
Emmy,I think you mean YOSHIYUKI and Sephy's MASAMUNE.There,fixed.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-02-2006, 01:32 PM
or maybe murasame, the sword you can get for cloud in wutai. it looks similar and the name is pretty similar to masamune too.

Lenna
06-02-2006, 01:46 PM
you all have misread something I've said. When I say you wouldn't know the name by looking at it, I mean that you don't the name, you have to search for it to know it.

Lavos
06-03-2006, 04:30 PM
Errr...just guessing...Knights of The Round ?

What you think I am,
I'm not.--->don't really get this part here.I'll try to think more.
What I could be,
I cast behind,--->Err.Arthur comes out last,deson't he?
my link is with the golden,--->you can only get the materia with a golden chocobo.
yet no direct encounter made--->But there's no direct connection between a chocobo and 13 knights.



Of course there is a connection between a chocobo and Kotr, without a golden chocobo you cant get Kotr.

Twilight Edge
06-03-2006, 06:01 PM
Errr...just guessing...Knights of The Round ?

What you think I am,
I'm not.--->don't really get this part here.I'll try to think more.
What I could be,
I cast behind,--->Err.Arthur comes out last,deson't he?
my link is with the golden,--->you can only get the materia with a golden chocobo.
yet no direct encounter made--->But there's no direct connection between a chocobo and 13 knights.



Of course there is a connection between a chocobo and Kotr, without a golden chocobo you cant get Kotr.

I didn't mean the materia,I meant the knights that are summoned(Arthur's court).Now that's hardly any connection betwwen a SUMMON(NOT MATERIA) and a CHOCOBO,now,ain't it?

Lenna
06-03-2006, 06:53 PM
ok here's all the hints I've given so far,
"The object is inanimate, and the answer itself is not hard to spot. You just wouldn't know the name of it by looking at it. You have to search for the answer's name. Also the what I could be and what I am not are the same thing, it's what you may think is it's twin. But they are not the same thing."
"When I say you wouldn't know the name by looking at it, I mean that you don't the name, you have to search for it to know it."

New hint : The link between the golden (think hard), is not physical, that is what is meant by no direct encounter made. The answer is nothing to do with the Golden, but the golden can help you know what you're looking for.

That's all I'm giving you for now

Carl the Llama
06-03-2006, 10:16 PM
Could it be the prison (beneth the Golden Saucer?)

Lenna
06-03-2006, 11:15 PM
nope :P but you're close to getting the answer to one of the hints with that.

HolyMackeral
06-05-2006, 08:30 PM
The guy who sells you GP?

Clawsze
06-05-2006, 08:42 PM
Cloud?(Wild guess)

Lenna
06-06-2006, 12:35 AM
"The object is inanimate, and the answer itself is not hard to spot. You just wouldn't know the name of it by looking at it. You have to search for the answer's name. Also the what I could be and what I am not are the same thing, it's what you may think is it's twin. But they are not the same thing."
"When I say you wouldn't know the name by looking at it, I mean that you don't the name, you have to search for it to know it."

New hint : The link between the golden (think hard), is not physical, that is what is meant by no direct encounter made. The answer is nothing to do with the Golden, but the golden can help you know what you're looking for.

Cloud is definitely not it because you know his name. And the guy who sells GP doesn't have a name so not him, also this thing is ALWAYS there, just you wouldn't know what it is by looking at it.

HolyMackeral
06-06-2006, 05:21 AM
By search for the name you mean it isnt said at all during the storyline?

andrewsim92
06-06-2006, 12:59 PM
lenna,i beg you for a clue....;)

Lenna
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
You do not find the name from a person, and when I say searching for it, I mean you wouldn't think it's what it is by looking at it, so the name isn't right infront of you.

Lost Number
06-06-2006, 04:45 PM
You are gonna FORCE me to replay the entire game aintcha?

HolyMackeral
06-06-2006, 08:27 PM
This has me completely stumped, I just hope it doesnt turn out to be as obscure as LN's steam vent/pipe/valve/vault/thingy

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-06-2006, 09:10 PM
at first thought i thought (mm thought thought) that it's might be a monster, and that the "golden" was sense materia that let you know it's name when giving information. but then i read the inanimate bit and thought nope :D

unless it's the gargoyle monsters in northern cave that are stone at first but become "real" after an attack

Lenna
06-06-2006, 10:28 PM
nope this is completely inanimate.

Doomie
06-07-2006, 02:55 AM
Totally the Keystone.

Lenna
06-07-2006, 03:03 PM
Totally told to you by a person. :P


You do not find the name from a person, and when I say searching for it, I mean you wouldn't think it's what it is by looking at it, so the name isn't right infront of you.

Doomie
06-07-2006, 09:13 PM
Totally Dio.

HolyMackeral
06-07-2006, 09:39 PM
The library/books in the Shinra tower?

Lenna
06-07-2006, 09:44 PM
nope, this does actually have a proper name of it's own not like Library etc. There's not more than one of it. but remember you don't find the name out from any person in the game. You find it by another means in game

Gullick
06-07-2006, 09:44 PM
the only thing i can think of that is golden (apart from chocobos) are the golden sparks in the water where you use that dolphin to get to the high level by the high wind.

Lenna
06-07-2006, 10:04 PM
when I say golden, there are 3 main golden important things in the game. think of what they are, this is in relation to 2 of them or can be for the 3rd one but closer to the 2

DoaJ
06-07-2006, 11:50 PM
Golden Chocobo
Gold Saucer
Gold Materia? no....
I dunno. Connection to both of those...
Vlakorados. The game doesnt direclty tell you its name, and you cant even scan it. Buyt it helps get chocobos. Which could be used for racing at the saucer, and could be connected to the one other gold thing that we/I havent figured out.

Vlakorados

Doomie
06-08-2006, 12:06 AM
Totally the Golden Shiny Wire of Hope. It doesn't seem like a wire of hope at first glance until Barret tells you. =]

Lenna
06-08-2006, 12:32 AM
Again - THE ANSWER IS INANIMATE DoaJ. Again - YOU DO NOT FIND THE NAME FROM A PERSON. It is given by a far simpler way than that you just have to LOOK.

And the golden is referring to the gold saucer mostly, but there's something it's connected to. THAT'S the link, but remember it's not physically connected with the answer.

BG-57
06-08-2006, 12:51 AM
What you think I am,
I'm not.
What I could be,
I cast behind,
my link is with the golden,
yet no direct encounter made.

This reminds me of Dyne's gun arm. Although he's clearly animate, his gun arm is mechanical. Presumably it has a name, like Barrets' many gun arms. An important part of the plot is when Dyne goes on a rampage in Gold Saucer, and everyone suspects Barret. He has given up the life he had in Corel, including (unwittingly) his daughter Marlene.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-08-2006, 01:06 AM
and you need to back off everybodies asses bc not everybody thinks like you; you dumbass idiotic sun-of-a-bitch

Sparky we do NOT address other members in such a manner. All other members are to be treated with courtesty and respect, personal attacks are not permitted under any circumstances.

Don't let me see it again.

abrojtm
06-08-2006, 01:06 AM
Is it the Buggy?

DoaJ
06-08-2006, 01:34 AM
My bad, calm down. I had misread the post I saw that said that.

HolyMackeral
06-08-2006, 06:45 AM
Im with BG-57, Dyne's gun/gun-arm sounds good to me.

Sardauker
06-08-2006, 09:10 AM
Is it by any chance " The Star Cup" in Dio's show room?
It is very close to a golden lamp but does not actually touch it.

It looks vaguely like a washing machine or something, but upon closer examination, the cup is evident on top of its platform.

Not sure about the "cast behind bit" or even particularly the " What you think I am I'm not" bit. That's my best effort and I apologise in advance if I blatantly misread or failed to read earlier hints :)

Lenna
06-08-2006, 02:09 PM
You're all mistaking this.

The answer is inanimate right?

The LINK to the answer is connected physically to the golden, but the answer isn't connected physically, only literally. (meaning it's no where near it).

HolyMackeral
06-09-2006, 01:18 AM
so "its link" is connected as in touching/part of the Golden Saucer?

Then also is this link what tells you its name?

Lenna
06-09-2006, 06:14 PM
the link doesn't give you the name, only part of it, it helps you know where to look.

Lost Number
06-10-2006, 01:24 AM
OK, here is my mistranslations of what I got from Lenna.

Forgotten Capital is the thing this is an image of.
It is in front of it.
Link to the golden is Corel.
HypnoCrown is here.
You must look at the menu to get the name.
It has Valley in it.

Now, im not certian of this, I cant recall it, but is it Coral Valley?

Sardauker
06-10-2006, 08:32 AM
The name is Corral valley I believe, LN.

Lenna
06-10-2006, 02:05 PM
Wrong Sardauker, it's Coral Valley, LN's right.

What you think I am, <-- The Ancient City. It is a part of it, but not the Ancient City itself.
I'm not.
What I could be,
I cast behind, <---- The Ancient City again, it is behind Coral Valley as this is the road to the city.
my link is with the golden, <--- Gold Saucer - The Link here is Corel, the original Corel is the desert prison. This gives you PART of the name.
yet no direct encounter made <--- Corel is not connected to Coral Valley directly. Literally and physically. It's not the same spelling but it is the same sounding, therefore is still legit in reasoning.

TheSpoonyBard
06-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Sardauker was right, the Corral Valley has two R's.

I might get back into this thread, depends if I have the time.

Lenna
06-10-2006, 02:27 PM
Screenshots Galore! and it's Corel Valley, so oh well.

TheSpoonyBard
06-10-2006, 02:46 PM
My screenshot. I apologise for the quality.

Lenna
06-10-2006, 02:57 PM
Hmm.. Must be different for the PC version and my PSX version (which is pal)
they both say the same thing. Either way it doesn't change the riddle.

Lost Number
06-11-2006, 02:25 PM
OK, a little effort of mines.

My fate is uncertain,
Its based on a whim.
Ego and life contest.

We have met before,
Or we will meet again,
Aside the scarlet unknown.

Gullick
06-11-2006, 03:20 PM
oh god, another LN riddle *gets a lot of coffee*

-Gull-

BG-57
06-11-2006, 07:32 PM
I'm guessing Vincent Valentine:

My fate is uncertain, (You can chose to recruit him or leave him)
Its based on a whim. (Hojo left him to be found on a whim)
Ego and life contest. (He opposes Hojo and Sephiroth)

We have met before, (He knows several of the villains, including Hojo)
Or we will meet again, (He can be brought to the Sister Ray battle)
Aside the scarlet unknown. (Could refer to Shinra's Scarlet, or Vincent's cape color, or rages, or blood)

Lost Number
06-11-2006, 08:57 PM
Nope. Scarlet is indeed refering to literal colour.

abrojtm
06-12-2006, 04:13 AM
Reeve?

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-12-2006, 11:53 AM
i was gonna say "ruby weapon" but then i thought about the last line some more with ASIDE the scarlet so i thought no it can't be. then i thought maybe emerald weapon

My fate is uncertain,
Its based on a whim. --> weapons were created to defeat the "catastrophe from the sky" (correct me if i'm wrong) but never ended up being used
Ego and life contest. --> test ur mind and body through confusion andhigh stats

We have met before,
Or we will meet again, --> met at northern cave and can then meet underwater
Aside the scarlet unknown --> along with ruby weapon.

Lost Number
06-12-2006, 05:50 PM
No.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-12-2006, 08:32 PM
is that the extent of the feedback :D are any of my ideas even close at all?

Lost Number
06-12-2006, 11:07 PM
OK then...all wrong. A hint, the 4th and 5th lines refer to timing in game, and relativity.

jesteranimefreak
06-13-2006, 12:12 AM
I believe it's Sephiroth... I'm probably wrong but here we go.

My fate is uncertain, <-- after being thrown into the reactor by Cloud we don't know excatly what happened to him.
Its based on a whim.
Ego and life contest. <-- Ego, Superego and Id theroy. Ego is the Self moderating the two polar oppisits of Superego and Id. The place where "Self and Life contest" is the lifestream. Sephiroth was thrown into the Lifestream

We have met before, <-- Cloud and Sephiroth met previously
Or we will meet again, <--- and are fated to meet again
Aside the scarlet unknown. <-- Aside the unknown scarlet thing that holds Holy.

And if that doesn't work I'm fresh out of ideas.

bennypuff231
06-13-2006, 03:25 AM
well... hey, im a noob lol, but i love this game and i love doing riddles for this game.. so if its alrite, id like to join and take a stab at this

I think its Cloud

My fate is uncertain,-- noone really knos about cloud, or wat is to become of him
Its based on a whim. --- they dont kno much about his past, since most of it was a lie
Ego and life contest.--- well, its his ego, and like the two sides of him dont kno watsup

We have met before, --- his own spirit knos his memories are made up, and for the line b4 this, u said it had to do with a time in the game, near the end of the game is wen cloud gets like split minded
Or we will meet again, --- its himself, will his memories b understood?
Aside the scarlet unknown. his ribbon on his bicep

idk, i dont even kno if u guys will let me join, i hope i got it rite..

correction, i meant the line after, bcuz he becomes split-minded or w/e again at the END of the game, its the 4th and 5th lines

but my answer is still CLOUD

Edit by Psychotic: bennypuff231, if you have anything further to add, or if you want to change your posts, please use the edit/delete button in future. Thanks.

Lenna
06-13-2006, 02:34 PM
You guys need to think away from main characters. LN doesn't do things that simple.

Emerald weapon
06-13-2006, 05:18 PM
has it something to do with trying to regain clouds memories in the life stream?

jesteranimefreak
06-13-2006, 05:38 PM
You guys need to think away from main characters. LN doesn't do things that simple.

I don't know.... I thought long and hard on that considering everything. I know I'm probably wrong because it's not LN's style, but I'mconfident that I gave it my all.

bennypuff231
06-14-2006, 03:08 AM
ok... i think i may have it... is it Ultima Weapon?

My fate is uncertain--- he is optional to actually kill
Its based on a whim.---optional
Ego and life contest.--- idk how to decribe this

We have met before,--- u first fight him in mideel, u said it had to due with the time in the games, with this line and the next
Or we will meet again,--- u choose to fight him again
Aside the scarlet unknown. --- the highwind?? idk

so im goin with Ultima Weapon now

o woops... i thought lenna for some reason was ln, srry... so idk maybe my answr of cloud or ultima wepon is rite, srry about the confusion... maybe both will be considered?

please edit your last post rather than posting twice in a row. -eestlinc

Lost Number
06-14-2006, 04:37 PM
OK, first things first. TOTALLY WRONG.
Now, Gordon Ramsay moment over, you are right, bennypuff231 - it is optional whether the answer lives or dies.

Now, by timing I mean relativity. Depending on where you are in the game, you may have seen the answer once, or twice. Second time is beside an unknown of scarlet colour.

Alos, anyone wants to know my style better, check my old riddles. Some in this thread, some in FF8, FF9, FF10 and KH.

HolyMackeral
06-14-2006, 09:53 PM
Does that mean that the answer is in an area that you can revisit later in the game? (I.E. Once you have the highwind?)

Masamune·1600
06-15-2006, 03:08 AM
OK, a little effort of mines.

My fate is uncertain,
Its based on a whim.
Ego and life contest.

We have met before,
Or we will meet again,
Aside the scarlet unknown.

I feel that this might actually refer to the hapless Shinra soldiers [Submarine Crew] defending the submarine in the Underwater Reactor. They had previously been encountered during the initial visit to Junon, preparing for the parade. This would satisfy the time/relativity requirement. Whether or not they survive depends on whether one chooses to fight them or take them hostage--"ego (or) life." The scarlet unknown could refer either to the red-garbed commander or the similarly hued submarine carrying the Huge Materia.

abrojtm
06-15-2006, 04:18 AM
I think I'm hallucinating, but isn't there a dog that blocks your path to the red sub if you choose the purple sub? If so, that's my guess.

Lenna
06-15-2006, 01:07 PM
Don Corneo?

The first time you meet him you are the ones who are beaten, and the whole thing between you and him are about ego, and life such as "what does the villain think when he's in a bad position" blah blah. You don't really know what happens to him unless you choose to do the wutai sidequest
My fate is uncertain,
Its based on a whim.
Ego and life contest.

We have met before, <--- you meet him in Midgar Wall Market
Or we will meet again, <--- you can choose to meet him again if you decide to go to do the Wutai side quest
Aside the scarlet unknown. <---- Wutai is mostly red in colour, and we don't necessarily know about the mountain's name unless we speak to the villagers.

Lost Number
06-15-2006, 04:22 PM
Masamune 1600 has it. Yer up.

Masamune·1600
06-16-2006, 02:03 AM
Cool.

The world can be a dangerous place
And safety sometimes found in the strangest of places.
But beware--time can be fleeting, the answer puzzling:
Solving my riddle may involve a circuitous effort.

G SpOtZ
06-16-2006, 02:20 AM
The northern cave, with Sephy's big barrier thing? =]

--Little effort.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-16-2006, 06:53 PM
The world can be a dangerous place
And safety sometimes found in the strangest of places.
But beware--time can be fleeting, the answer puzzling:
Solving my riddle may involve a circuitous effort.

the temple of the ancients. the monsters there are stronger than anything found so far, the little guys hide in the highest rooms. "time" and "puzzling" probably referring to the clock puzzle, with certain doors leading you back to where you first started.

Masamune·1600
06-17-2006, 03:59 AM
Neither guess is correct. I like ph0£n!x's reasoning, but it doesn't quite take into account the entire riddle. The riddle is deliberately vague, but keep in mind that every line is, in one way or another, important.

bennypuff231
06-17-2006, 04:08 AM
I thikn this is the event when you go into the rocketship with Cid and have to do that password combination on the key panel thing to open the container with the huge materia


The world can be a dangerous place--- the place is gonna be destroyed
And safety sometimes found in the strangest of places.--- in space
But beware--time can be fleeting, the answer puzzling:--- you run out of time quickly trying to figure out the password
Solving my riddle may involve a circuitous effort.--- well... it could have to do with the O button, and how u have to circle thru answers, idk

Lenna
06-21-2006, 07:09 PM
Masamune you going to answer ? if not then I'd say someone should write a riddle if he doesn't answer up til tomorrow.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-21-2006, 07:14 PM
shall we say a week (7 days) it's already been 4!

Lenna
06-21-2006, 09:20 PM
I'd say 5 days is more suitable. :/

abrojtm
06-21-2006, 10:41 PM
My Guess is HP<->MP Materia.

trepiesfriend
06-22-2006, 03:51 AM
hey Lenna, would u mind if I borrow your big riddle about FFVII's storyline for a while? I wanna introduce it to some of my friends, you know, it's really something...interesting. Thanks anyway!

TinyRikku
06-22-2006, 07:21 AM
Does anyone else have a riddle that I can solve *smiles brightly* Oh n btw..Hiya!! I'm new!! *winks n waves*

Lenna
06-22-2006, 01:53 PM
hey Lenna, would u mind if I borrow your big riddle about FFVII's storyline for a while? I wanna introduce it to some of my friends, you know, it's really something...interesting. Thanks anyway!

As long as I'm given credit for it then go ahead. It took alot of work that one did.

bennypuff231
06-22-2006, 02:07 PM
OK, did Masamune die or something??? lol

Carl the Llama
06-22-2006, 09:45 PM
Maybe he lost his internet connection or somthing

Lost Number
06-24-2006, 07:26 PM
OK...i'll hazard a riddle.

A cool head wont help this fight,
Use rage to get your end.
My chilling temprament can be hard to bear,
A fearsome stature I do have,
Yet few fear me at first,
My mechanized power shall show clearest truth -
I am stronger than you.

Carl the Llama
06-24-2006, 09:28 PM
just a guess here but... the fighting machiene in the gold saucer?

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-25-2006, 02:21 PM
i'm going to guess proud clod

btw i did send masamune a PM on the 4th day and it has been 8 days so i think thi is totally fair.

Gullick
06-25-2006, 03:18 PM
i was thinking the end battle with Sephy

A cool head wont help this fight,
Use rage to get your end

- you use a lmit Break to kill him, this could be interpreted as rage

My chilling temprament can be hard to bear

- Sephy knew what he wanted to do and stuck to it and a metoer hitting the Earth can be pretty chilling

A fearsome stature I do have

-He was Sephiroth, one of the most powerful and evil people alive

Yet few fear me at first

-Sephiroth was first known as a great soldier and many people still thought of him as that even after the whole deal of burning down Nibelheim

My mechanized power shall show clearest truth

still not sure about this one...

I am stronger than you.

Cloud was not strong enough to kill him completly as he comes back in AC

-Gull-

Lost Number
06-25-2006, 08:41 PM
All wrong

HolyMackeral
06-26-2006, 06:00 AM
Is the fight in line one referring to an actual battle (random or otherwise) that takes place in the game? - never know with LN

Lenna
06-26-2006, 12:30 PM
LN uses most words metaphorically though Holy, so fight could mean battling mentally or physically

Lost Number
06-26-2006, 04:27 PM
Not this one. Its an enemy, (real BIG hint there)

Eminem's_No.1_Fan
06-26-2006, 04:29 PM
is it that icicle guy before the two headed dragon?

Lost Number
06-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Nope.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-26-2006, 09:15 PM
i was gonna say godo but then i read mechanized.

i'm going to guess carry armour

Lost Number
06-27-2006, 04:39 PM
Nope...although, mechanized cant just be taken as a Shinra machine.

Emerald weapon
06-27-2006, 05:03 PM
a ice golem??

Lost Number
06-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Damnit. Correct.
A cool head wont help this fight, - Need fire to beat him
Use rage to get your end. - Ditto
My chilling temprament can be hard to bear, - Icey attacks
A fearsome stature I do have, - Well...if he wasnt so short, he looks tough
Yet few fear me at first, - Short thing
My mechanized power shall show clearest truth -
I am stronger than you. - Clearest, a reference to ice, and he is statistically higher HP than you, on yer own. Also...golems are machines, animated by magic.

Emerald weapon
06-28-2006, 05:47 PM
ok heres mine tis easy cuz i aint that smart:

I'll turn your world upside down,
Two heads are indeed better than one,
i huff,i puff,
then your done

who/what am i??

Lenna
06-28-2006, 06:32 PM
I'll turn your world upside down,
Two heads are indeed better than one,
i huff,i puff,
then your done

Schizo? they use quake3, it has 2 heads, looks like a dragon, and you fight it?

TheSpoonyBard
06-28-2006, 06:38 PM
Typoon.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-28-2006, 06:39 PM
typhon summon

literally does turn the world upside down
has 2 heads, one at front and back
is a wind element i think, causes a tornado anyway
not sure bout the last line

Emerald weapon
06-28-2006, 06:43 PM
DAM!!!!!:mad2: lol well dun m8 i know it was to easy and the last line meant that your done receiving pain

Lenna
06-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Endless Twilight got that.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
06-28-2006, 06:52 PM
talking to ET on msn, he said i could go ahead and take it. such a nice guy :D

born in a fallen eden
raised on spite
helping those similar
with actions, no words

plz post ur reasoning as well. tia

Lenna
06-28-2006, 06:52 PM
Devils, Endless Twilight got that.

TheSpoonyBard
06-28-2006, 07:11 PM
I said d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x could take this riddle. I'm not at a stage to guess yet.

zellv2
06-30-2006, 10:49 PM
wow this topic got big lol :D
time for a riddle woot!

you will find me in the desert under gold saucer
if you get lost i will aid you
i'am no weapon nor monster
who or what am i

when you get chucked down the hole in gold saucer to that strange place where dyno is i think when he jumps of the cliff and you can go out into the desert there is something there but what is it

Lenna
07-01-2006, 12:54 AM
The chocobo cart.

The desert prison if you walk out into the desert, and you walk too far, you will get the chocobo cart picking you up, and returning you to the entrance of where you first arrive.

you shouldn't have put that last bit. It made it far too easy.

Lost Number
07-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Hol on, wernt we on d£v!l'$ ph0£n!xs riddle?

zellv2
07-01-2006, 06:03 PM
correct yea i should not have but not many people know of it

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-01-2006, 07:05 PM
anywot back to mine :D

i can't believe anyone has yet to guess in 3 days!!! :O even the great lenna, ET, and LN!

shock horror! :D

Lost Number
07-01-2006, 07:42 PM
Sorry man, a wee bit busy. When I can. But, is it the ancients in the Temple?

bennypuff231
07-02-2006, 12:29 AM
i think its just the ancients, mainly cuz they forgot to talk

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-02-2006, 04:14 PM
nope sorry wrong so far.

here's the riddle again to save u all scrolling

born in a fallen eden
raised on spite
helping those similar
with actions, no words

and again plz post ur reasoning, not that i'll hold it against you if u don't :D

bennypuff231
07-02-2006, 07:57 PM
Is it the Knights of the Round Summon?

born in a fallen eden--- its like in a black abyss that ur enemies fall into
raised on spite--- all elements?
helping those similar--- they're all knights
with actions, no words--- they just attack

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-03-2006, 10:54 AM
nope sorry try again

Topcat
07-03-2006, 01:43 PM
I think it's barret:)

born in a fallen eden- Barrets town was once great, it was destroyed.
raised on spite- Barret hates Shinira.
helping those similar- he helps the poor people of midar by setting up avalanche.
with actions, no words- Barret likes to use his gun!:D

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-03-2006, 06:51 PM
sorry but no

i'll give u a hint:
- you have to draw on something outside the game (i.e in this world) for one line in the riddle

ok i know it's not a great help but i'll post one that#'ll make it a little easier after a couple more guesses.

bennypuff231
07-03-2006, 07:44 PM
Hades summon

born in a fallen eden--- mako is in the planet, and then condensed to form materia
raised on spite--- you need magic to summon him
helping those similar--- he has a humanoid skeletal figure, like people in your party
with actions, no words--- like other summons, he doesn't talk

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-04-2006, 10:45 AM
nope sorry try again

bennypuff231
07-05-2006, 10:44 AM
Is it Jenova/Jenova's Cells?

born in a fallen eden--- ya
raised on spite--- evil
helping those similar--- anyone with her cells
with actions, no words--- as kadaj says 'mothers going to tell me' tho she doesnt talk, and im not sure if i remember but i think she was a Cetra/Ancient, so she would have forgot to talk but i think im wrong w/e

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-05-2006, 12:26 PM
sorry no, but i would like to commend you for haveing so much enthusiasm :D

i'll give you all another hint, a good one this time

HINT: - It's an NPC

abrojtm
07-06-2006, 03:36 AM
I think that the answer is Seto.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-06-2006, 12:40 PM
sorry no try again.

i'll post the riddle again with all hints so far to save you scrolling

Born in a fallen eden
raised on spite
helping those similar
with actions, no words

hints:
- you have to draw from something in this world for part of the riddle
- it's an NPC

and i'll say again, PLZ POST YOUR REASONING! :D

bennypuff231
07-10-2006, 12:23 AM
do summons count as NPC??

Lost Number
07-10-2006, 02:34 PM
do summons count as NPC??
You dont play as them, so yes, they are technically NPCs. For a given value of NPC.

bennypuff231
07-10-2006, 02:41 PM
ya, i kno, but some people consider them not to be, and some dont, idk, it depends on pheonix's view

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-10-2006, 03:26 PM
go on then i'll give you another hint

HINT: it's not a summon :D

HolyMackeral
07-10-2006, 11:12 PM
I have 2 quesions.

1) Drawing on something in this world is for the "Born in a fallen eden" right?
2)By 'no words' do you mean that they dont speak any line at all in the game (i would think they just have actions speaking louder than words)

bennypuff231
07-13-2006, 03:13 PM
darn you d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x, darn you!!!!! lol just kiddin :D

bennypuff231
07-14-2006, 03:48 PM
Ruby Weapons tentacle/hand things?

Born in a fallen eden--- its in the desert beneath Gold Saucer
raised on spite--- they want to kill you
helping those similar--- the other one, and Ruby itself
with actions, no words--- they dont talk

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-15-2006, 02:56 PM
to answer the questions

1. getting something from this world is not the "born in a fallen eden" line
2. no, it just doesn't speak after "helping those similar"

and no it's not ruby's tentacles

G SpOtZ
07-16-2006, 04:55 AM
I'm just going analyze.

Born in a fallen eden - Could mean a lot of things. We just know that the NPC was born assumably in a state or place which was once great, but "fallen" may refer to the fact that it's not what it used to be.

raised on spite - It's assumed that the NPC was raised in a life of seeing others suffer maliciously.

helping those similar - Perhaps the NPC lived a life of only trusting people that he was familiar with, or people that are like him in certain ways.

with actions, no words - Pretty self-explanitory. It doesn't necessarily mean that the NPC doesn't talk, but it means he helps those who are similar to him by acting. Therefore, words are insignificant in his or her case.

"Born in a fallen eden" has me stumped the most, because of its possible meanings.


BTW, I have no guess, I was just analyzing.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-18-2006, 04:01 PM
actually G spotz is pretty much there. 2 1/2 lines of his analysis are right. i'm not gonna tell you which ones tho :D

Lenna
07-18-2006, 04:18 PM
Is the actions and words line the one related to our world. Asin is it related to the player? Maybe the characters ingame help them out at one point, but the player controls it with actions, and we don't speak to them so is that a possibility?

abrojtm
07-18-2006, 04:19 PM
Has anyone guesed Dio? If not, I will.

Gullick
07-19-2006, 10:45 PM
i keep thinking that the Fallen Eden represents the Centra and the ancients, they were great but now are non existant like, soz, no real guess here, just seeing if this will help anyone =)

-Gull-

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-20-2006, 02:29 PM
to lenna: no the actions n words line isn't to do with this world. you don't control the actions and you do talk to them. i think i understood what you mean, tell me if i didn't.

abrojtm, sorry the answer's not Dio

and gullick, you're going in the wrong direction

hint: the fact that the last line says "NO words" and not "NOT words" is important

Lenna
07-20-2006, 06:37 PM
So that means they do speak but more actions than words.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-20-2006, 10:30 PM
i'm trying to figure how i can phrase this without making it too obvious. they ("they" being the answer from now on, but the answer is just one person) do speak but also jump to action to "help those similar", and as a result of which have no words. *hoping not to have made this too obvious*

post again if still confuzzled

G SpOtZ
07-20-2006, 10:55 PM
I'm going to have to say Reeve.

Born in a fallen eden - may refer to the fact that he works for Shinra which is a successful industry, but "evil" (thus, fallen) in a sense.

Raised on spite - As an employee of Shinra, Reeve has gone through life seeing the evil of Shinra grow.

Helping those similar - "Similar" is an odd term for this, but let's just say Reeve is helping those who think like him. Reeve knows what Shinra has been doing is wrong, so he wants to help Cloud and Co. as they think the same way as him.

With actions, no words - Reeve controls Cait Sith, and in various cases, has Cait Sith do the dirty work. He betrays Shinra and acts to help Cloud and Co., instead of telling them where they can go and what they can do.

Dynast-Kid
07-21-2006, 05:13 AM
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zellv2
07-21-2006, 08:55 PM
ty void :)

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-21-2006, 10:12 PM
sorry GS not reeve

Gullick
07-25-2006, 03:37 PM
i gotta give it to ya , this is an ard one...

(another clue =D?)

-Gull-

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-25-2006, 08:32 PM
Ok here’s everything given so far and a new hint

Riddle:
Born in a fallen eden,
Raised on spite,
Helping those similar,
With actions, no words

Hints:
- You have to draw on something outside the game (i.e in this world) for one line in the riddle
- It’s an NPC
- It’s not a summon
- getting something from this world is not the “born in a fellen eden” line
- it does speak but just not after “helping those similar”
- getting something from this world is not the “with actions, no words” line
- the “fallen eden” doesn’t represent the ancients or the cetra . . . and yes I know these are the same thing
- the answer does speak but jumps into action to “help those similar” and as a result of which have “no words”

Incorrect guesses so far:
The ancients in the temple
The ancients
Knights of the round summon
Barret
Hades summon
Jenova
Jenova cells
Seto
Ruby WEAPON’s tentacles
Dio
Reeve

NEW HINT:
- you have to draw on something from this world for the “helping those similar” line

also see G Spotz analysis here (post 2463 if youdon’t want to wait for it to load)--> http://forums.eyesonff.com/showpost.php?p=1778369&postcount=2463

also as an extra hint (I spoil you guys! :D) I’m going to say that the 1st, 3rd and 4th lines of his analysis are correct

Lost Number
07-25-2006, 09:19 PM
Ok you lot, this has merited my PERSONAL attention!

Born in a fallen eden, - according to G SpOtZ, a fallen great place. Ok, so - ancients temple, Gelnika, Rocket Town, Corral Valley, Corel, Wutai.
Raised on spite, - maybe...raised to hate? Sephy, again. The Shinra? Yuffie?
Helping those similar, - I'll look at Yuffie - she helps the crew, who share the trait of being unaccepted by Shinra, roving the world.
With actions, no words - Helps by joining. Fights alongside.

I'll go Yuffie for now.

G SpOtZ
07-25-2006, 09:21 PM
How could the second line be wrong? The only other definition of spite I could think of is, "regardless of [something]".

spite P Pronunciation Key (spt)
n.
1. Malicious ill will prompting an urge to hurt or humiliate.
An instance of malicious feeling.

2.Not stopped by; regardless of: They kept going in spite of their fears.
The rest of the definitions are basically the same as the first one.

I guess that could mean that "raised on spite" may also have to do with growing up, and overcoming difficult obstacles of life.

EDIT: Lost Number, Yuffie is a playable character.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-27-2006, 09:46 PM
yeh one of the clues is that the answer is an NPC, so as GS sed its wrong

as YET ANOTHER hint i'll explain the 2nd line

- this character grew up around people full of spite for something, and they kept relaying that spite on the NPC

i can't believe this riddle is causing so much hassle, i thought of it when i was drunk :D

Lost Number
07-27-2006, 09:50 PM
yeh one of the clues is that the answer is an NPC, so as GS sed its wrong

as YET ANOTHER hint i'll explain the 2nd line

- this character grew up around people full of spite for something, and they kept relaying that spite on the NPC

i can't believe this riddle is causing so much hassle, i thought of it when i was drunk :D
Ah, I get it. Best way to solve this is therefore to try again when I am drunk. *goes off*
OK...so we have a NPC that gives the character an item, or something, says somethign to them, then either refuses to talk, or goes away. A rebel, a soldier.

finalfantasyguy4ever
07-27-2006, 10:33 PM
is it a wepon

Carl the Llama
07-27-2006, 11:21 PM
Iv just had a sudden Insparation! I think its Godo (Yuffies father)

here goes
Born in a fallen eden - he was born in Wutai which has been turned into a tourist attraction
Raised on spite - Wutai and the Shin Ra were at war: so he is bound to be spitful
Helping those similar - He helps Yuffie (the similaritys) by testing her and also giveing her the Leviathon materia
With actions, no words - Like I said above he tests Yuffie by fighting her

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-28-2006, 10:22 PM
LN: wer'd u get the giving an item thing from. but anyway they do give you something and they do talk to you, tho very little beforehand . . .

~reno~: sorry no not godo, but ur reasoning's totally sound for godo :D

HolyMackeral
07-30-2006, 09:25 PM
I was just looking through the game script, and happened to see this.

"TV Producer: Hmm… Better send that soldier something."

And just assuming he is from Junon, which could be thought of as a fallen eden seeing as it isnt what it once was because Shin-ra built that thing on top of it. (Maybe spiteful because of it?)

When Cloud is dressed as a soldier he would appear to be "similar" to the other soldiers and the producer. He never actually talks to you but gives you items.

So my guess is "TV Procucer."

Rydrobot
07-31-2006, 12:18 AM
I am just gonna say Zack for the heck of it.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
07-31-2006, 01:34 PM
Holymackeral, ur so close!!! but no . . .

Rydrobot, nope sorry

Twilight Edge
07-31-2006, 01:56 PM
Well if HolyMackeral is close I think it's the other guy who talks with him!!Oh wait,I got to give my explaination but I think it's about the same as Holy's.

bennypuff231
07-31-2006, 08:20 PM
oh my god... i think i got it

a plain old shinra soldier

mainly thanks to holy mackerals reasoning and how you said it was sooo close!

the soldiers have jenova cells injected into them (fallen eden?),
making them want to kill kinda (raised on spite, includes the cells), they're like an army (helping those similar)
and they're just a regular like grunt type enemy, so they dont talk they only like shoot you (with actions, no words)

i seriously think and hope this is it... haha :D

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
08-01-2006, 11:11 AM
nah sorry both wrong. maybe i shudn't have sed "so close" but he was close

Carl the Llama
08-01-2006, 11:47 AM
Oh oh oh, is it Mr. Dolphin hehe I know this MUST be right

Born in a fallen eden - see quote
Raised on spite - see quote

Grandpa and grandma told me this beach was beautiful when they were
small. But after the Shinra built that city above, the sun stopped shining
here, and the water got polluted… I was raised on that story and hate Shinra so
much, I could die!

Helping those similar - cant really work this one out, unless Cloud is part fish rofl
With actions, no words - well it should be obvious, he doesnt speak as he is a dolphin but he does help =)

Edit: you were so close because that happens directly after the jumping thing with Mr. Dolphin =D

Dragon Mage
08-02-2006, 12:41 AM
I'll take a wild stab in the dark and say the man at Fort Condor.

Lenna
08-02-2006, 04:35 PM
Oh oh oh, is it Mr. Dolphin hehe I know this MUST be right

Born in a fallen eden - see quote
Raised on spite - see quote

Grandpa and grandma told me this beach was beautiful when they were
small. But after the Shinra built that city above, the sun stopped shining
here, and the water got polluted… I was raised on that story and hate Shinra so
much, I could die!

Helping those similar - cant really work this one out, unless Cloud is part fish rofl
With actions, no words - well it should be obvious, he doesnt speak as he is a dolphin but he does help =)

Edit: you were so close because that happens directly after the jumping thing with Mr. Dolphin =D

I think you've probably got it cracked there, although, I think that the helping those similar could be in reference to cloud etc helping Priscilla who obviously means alot to him. Therefore helping those who's helped him?

Dragon Mage
08-03-2006, 01:50 AM
Or...it could be the man in red in Junon that teaches Cloud formations and such, when he pretends to be a a member of Shinra. (Before you sneak onto the cargo ship)
1. It's in Junon, which wasn't what it used to be.
2. Part of Shinra
3. He's a soldier and teaches other soldiers
4. Teaches moves/formations to soldiers

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
08-03-2006, 02:49 PM
OMG! ~Reno~ is so close it's unbelieveable!!!! (perhaps i said too much :D)

and dragon mage, sorry wrong both times

Lenna
08-03-2006, 04:44 PM
Priscilla then for the same reasons as Mr. Dolphin?
I really think that helping those similar is either in reference to disliking the shinra, or helping others who's helped them?

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
08-03-2006, 08:43 PM
CORRECT!!! the answer is priscilla. now i'll post what each line meant

born in a fallen eden --> "my parents told me this beach used to be beautiful when they were kids"
raised on spite --> "i was raised on that story and hated the shinra bercause of it"
helping those similar --> here is the part of bringing something from this world. the scientific name for a water-bound creatue, such as a dolphin for example, is a piscine (pronounced "pis-keen"), which looks similar to priscilla
with actions, no words --> tries to help mr. dolphin by running to help him and has no words afterwards because she isn't breathing

well it was fun while it lasted :D

ur turn lenna :D

HolyMackeral
08-04-2006, 11:03 AM
i know you'll find this hard to believe but before i said the tv producer, i was actually thinking priscilla with the 'helping' being the giving of the shiva materia. This was obviously after realising the fallen eden was junon.

But well done to reno and to Lenna for the steal (kidding!) - Im looking forward to what you can come up with.

Dragon Mage
08-05-2006, 08:11 PM
darn, I really thought I had it there for a moment.

Edit
Congrats, ~Reno~. Good luck with the riddle.

Lenna
08-05-2006, 10:54 PM
~Reno~ can have this one, he got the reasoning, and it was his in the first place :P

blue phoenix
08-08-2006, 11:59 AM
is one going to be posted? i want to know what these are like.