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Why is it that Brother is obsessed with Yuna? They're cousins, right? He even learned to speak English better so they could talk together. He acts like she's "the one" for him. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that?
BG-57
11-14-2005, 07:57 PM
It's obvious he has a crush on her. Whether this is acceptable is another matter.
BTW, did you notice how jealous Rikku gets that her brother pays more attention to Yuna's welfare than her own?
GunbladeMaster
11-14-2005, 08:05 PM
um
they just did that to add "comic relief"
but they failed miserably
Rikku=Lesbian :love:
Yeah, I noticed that, too. Doesnt make much sense to me.
Shoden
11-14-2005, 08:41 PM
Rikku just wants to have all the attention.
Ultima Shadow
11-14-2005, 09:04 PM
Well, considering "Brother" is a mentally sick pervert and a total weirdo, this really doesn't suprise me at all.
Destai
11-14-2005, 09:15 PM
Yes its horrible.I wonder if thats ok in Japan.
GunbladeMaster
11-14-2005, 09:28 PM
Square=Pervs
Shiny
11-14-2005, 09:47 PM
Yes its horrible.I wonder if thats ok in Japan.
:( Alot of things are okay in Japan...like vending machines filled with porn mags.
GunbladeMaster
11-14-2005, 10:02 PM
...and women
Big D
11-14-2005, 11:44 PM
There's a 'hidden' cut-scene in chapter 5 where Brother tells Barkeep that he's in love with Yuna, but knows he doesn't have a chance with her. So at least he's slightly in touch with reality...
Now here's the really disturbing bit: We all know that Rikku had some kind of past fling with Gippal... but Brother also mentions that Gippal stole his first crush. This creates a possibility too unsettling to contemplate... but then, we know Gippal is a "player", so hopefully this means that Brother's first crush was not his own sister.
Venom
11-14-2005, 11:47 PM
um
they just did that to add "comic relief"
but they failed miserably
Rikku=Lesbian :love:
Actaully did you know that Brother is a red neck, in al bhed culture its ok to marry your cousin..........as long as the cousins brother doesnt get dibbs on her.
Ruskies
11-15-2005, 02:13 AM
I like the thought of Rikku as a lesbian, remember every time you ran around the bridge area of the celsius Rikku would follow you around and she always freaking out when brother was digging on Yuna. Rikku is brothers sister right, so if the al bhed is the equal to red-necks then Brother should call dibs on Rikku who likes Yuna and they can all "be happy" together on their dads/uncles ship which is like their trailer. So if its Rikku+Yuna, Yuna+Brother or Yuna+Rikku+Brother, thats some sick freaky incest action. Even if your red-neck!!!
But if that was the scenerio I would mind being Brother(not)... Yuna and Rikku are hott though...
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Winter Nights
11-15-2005, 02:26 AM
Now here's the really disturbing bit: We all know that Rikku had some kind of past fling with Gippal... but Brother also mentions that Gippal stole his first crush. This creates a possibility too unsettling to contemplate... but then, we know Gippal is a "player", so hopefully this means that Brother's first crush was not his own sister.
*shudders*
I'm starting to understand why the Al Bhed's were disliked. And it has nothing to do with machina.
Vaprice
11-15-2005, 03:21 AM
the creators are japanese so anything can happen... enough said lol
black orb
11-15-2005, 03:30 AM
>>> There is nothing wrong about having a crush with your cousin..
>>> There is nothing wrong about having a crush with your cousin..
*shudders* disturbing....
ThroneofDravaris
11-15-2005, 03:35 AM
Obviously, none of you have seen ‘Arrested Development’…
I tend to NOT watch movies that have anything to do with incest. Even Cruel Intentions was sickening, and they weren't blood related.
ThroneofDravaris
11-15-2005, 03:57 AM
That’s no way near as bad as some shows I’ve heard about. In the anime OVA ‘Angelic Sanctuary’, the protagonist is in love with his sister (ie his blood related sister) and from what I've heard, he actually has 'relations' with her (lol, worst pun EVER).
How’s that for socially unacceptable!
ffxfreak93
11-15-2005, 04:25 AM
he just a sick mentally ill man . THATS FINAL.
Big D
11-15-2005, 04:26 AM
That’s no way near as bad as some shows I’ve heard about. In the anime OVA ‘Angelic Sanctuary’, the protagonist is in love with his sister (ie his blood related sister) and from what I've heard, he actually has 'relations' with her (lol, worst pun EVER).
How’s that for socially unacceptable!Ah, but angels are genetically perfect, so there's no risk of recessive mutations coming to the fore. The same reason the Greek Gods were allowed to get fruity with their siblings.
Brother and Yuna are first cousins, so... it happens sometimes, and plenty of couples exist who're first cousins. It doesn't necessarily have adverse consequences for the kids. However, the closeness of the family relationship is a moral problem for some people. Some would say they're too closely related; others might disagree.
black orb
11-15-2005, 04:28 AM
*shudders* disturbing....
>>> Are you telling me that you never had a sort of a crush with some cousin or someone thats blood related?!
I mean, that happens a lot you know, specially when we are kids.
Im surprised everyone are so disturbed about the matter..
ThroneofDravaris
11-15-2005, 04:44 AM
Ah, but angels are genetically perfect, so there's no risk of recessive mutations coming to the fore. The same reason the Greek Gods were allowed to get fruity with their siblings.
…As far as I know, the protagonist was human; he just had the soul of an Angel. So yeah, still disturbing.
And YunasLove, there are SO many people that are going to find your post offensive it’s not funny…
Ruskies
11-15-2005, 05:00 AM
You know what Throne your right thanks for bringing that to my attention, I mean after all we are only talking about incest, which you oddly seem very comfortable and at home with. I apologize.
boys from the dwarf
11-15-2005, 06:18 AM
Square=Pervs
when they were making FFX-2 they definetly were but the other games were fine. brother is sick.
ThroneofDravaris
11-15-2005, 06:43 AM
You know what Throne your right thanks for bringing that to my attention, I mean after all we are only talking about incest, which you oddly seem very comfortable and at home with. I apologize.
Lol, whatever could you be getting at….
Incest comes up a lot in Anime (mainly step brothers/sisters getting together), so that’s probably the reason why I don’t really care that much about it. However, I cringe a little when they put blood related siblings together, as you may have been able to tell from the tone of my ‘Angel Sanctuary’ post.
Anyway, I was referring to the manner in which you used the word ‘retard’ to label mentally handicapped individuals. I’m sure there are many people who could have easily taken offence to that…
Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-15-2005, 07:50 AM
Wow! I did not even notice that...
I tend to NOT watch movies that have anything to do with incest. Even Cruel Intentions was sickening, and they weren't blood related.
Agreed.
ThroneofDravaris
11-15-2005, 09:52 AM
Ok, I really don’t see why step brother/sister relationships are so ‘sickening’. It can’t be that emotionally healthy, but it’s not as if there is anything biologically wrong with it. Once again, it’s not as if I’m all for it or anything (I don’t really know anyone who has step brothers or sisters, let alone would ever consider f@#$ing them) but I’m not going to gouge my eyes out if I saw it on some show either.
If it’s used for comedic purposes (such as in FFX-2 or Arrested Development) and not actually acted upon, I don’t mind the whole ‘cousins’ gag either. I might be a little turned off though if they took things too far (yeah, I haven’t seen The Blue Lagoon, but I know ‘of’ it…)
Light Mage
11-15-2005, 01:26 PM
It's not like they grew up together or anything.
Imagine a scenario where you've been in love with someone, who you first met a a total stranger, and are going to marry them, etc.
Nothing wrong with thet, huh? No sick and twisted perversions in the eyes of soceity - two strangers who met, fell in love, and so on...
What if you find out at a later date, both you and your spouse were adopted as babies... and TEH HORRORZ - you discover you were both put up for adoption BY THE SAME PARENTS.
(Apologies for going off topic, but hopefully you can see my point.)
>>> Are you telling me that you never had a sort of a crush with some cousin or someone thats blood related?!
I mean, that happens a lot you know, specially when we are kids.
Im surprised everyone are so disturbed about the matter..
That is exactly what I'm saying. I have 6 sisters and 4 brother, only 3 of which are actually blood related. There is a reason that incest is illegal in most states. Step-sibling or not; just the thought of it makes me want to cringe. I didnt have a "crush" when I was little. I was a tom-boy and was tougher than the boys. Some kid across the street kissed me on the cheek when I was 8 and I decked him in the face. Enough said?
Ruskies
11-15-2005, 04:40 PM
That is exactly what I'm saying. I have 6 sisters and 4 brother, only 3 of which are actually blood related. There is a reason that incest is illegal in most states. Step-sibling or not; just the thought of it makes me want to cringe. I didnt have a "crush" when I was little. I was a tom-boy and was tougher than the boys. Some kid across the street kissed me on the cheek when I was 8 and I decked him in the face. Enough said?
Mmmm Mmmm... You go GIRL... o sorry off topic... Anyways incest is messed up even if you didnt grow up together. I mean didnt you think it was sick when Luke and Leah kissed in starwars. It would be sick if they fondled and they didnt grow up together... Even if Luke didnt know Leah was his sister right away he shouldnt be kissing any girls until he finds out who his sister is cuz he could be KISSING HIS SISTER!!! ewww
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black orb
11-15-2005, 06:56 PM
That is exactly what I'm saying. I have 6 sisters and 4 brother, only 3 of which are actually blood related. There is a reason that incest is illegal in most states. Step-sibling or not; just the thought of it makes me want to cringe.
>>> Im not talking about incest, Im just talking about having a crush..
Some kid across the street kissed me on the cheek when I was 8 and I decked him in the face. Enough said?
>>> Poor lil boy.. :[
Kids can be so cruel at times..
Evolavas
11-15-2005, 11:17 PM
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they just did that to add "comic relief"
but they failed miserably
Rikku=Lesbian :love:
rikku = bi
Honestly, what was Square trying to prove? Were they trying to make the inbreds feel better about themselves, or what? And where in the game does it say that Brother is in love with Yuna but he knows he doesnt have a chance?
Big D
11-16-2005, 04:29 AM
Honestly, what was Square trying to prove? Were they trying to make the inbreds feel better about themselves, or what?Comic relief. Brother's the 'comedy character', so he's got a silly, unrequited love interest.
And where in the game does it say that Brother is in love with Yuna but he knows he doesnt have a chance?If Yuna sleeps in the Celsius cabin during every chapter, there's an extra scene when she wakes up after taking a nap during chapter 5. But it's essential that you make her rest during every previous chapter, or this won't work. It's one of the essential - and easily-missed - criteria for getting 100% completion, and the elusive 'perfect' ending.
vampirepiggyhunter7
11-18-2005, 03:25 AM
Why is it that Brother is obsessed with Yuna? They're cousins, right? He even learned to speak English better so they could talk together. He acts like she's "the one" for him. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that?
I'm pretty sure that Brother is too stupid to know that Yuna is his cousin. I'm serious...
Comic relief. Brother's the 'comedy character', so he's got a silly, unrequited love interest.If Yuna sleeps in the Celsius cabin during every chapter, there's an extra scene when she wakes up after taking a nap during chapter 5. But it's essential that you make her rest during every previous chapter, or this won't work. It's one of the essential - and easily-missed - criteria for getting 100% completion, and the elusive 'perfect' ending.
I just got the scene you're talking about. I've gotten to Chapter 5 about 3 times already. This is the only time that I've seen that scene. Sickening....
Omi4000
11-18-2005, 08:23 AM
Brother is a bad boy why would he fancy his sister and cousin does the boy **** his relitives or something
ThroneofDravaris
11-18-2005, 08:35 AM
I just got the scene you're talking about. I've gotten to Chapter 5 about 3 times already. This is the only time that I've seen that scene. Sickening....
It could have been worse. He could have jumped her while she was sleeping...
Big D
11-18-2005, 10:14 AM
I doubt he'd do that; he's not a rapist. Attraction between first cousins simply isn't taboo or illegal in some cultures, so his feelings for Yuna aren't universally "wrong". I mean, the only connection between the two is the fact that his father's sister was Yuna's mother. Now, I don't approve of attraction between cousins; it goes against my own morals, but I know it's not the same for everyone.
Christmas
11-18-2005, 10:58 AM
I doubt he'd do that; he's not a rapist. Attraction between first cousins simply isn't taboo or illegal in some cultures, so his feelings for Yuna aren't universally "wrong". I mean, the only connection between the two is the fact that his father's sister was Yuna's mother. Now, I don't approve of attraction between cousins; it goes against my own morals, but I know it's not the same for everyone.
From what I know, it isn't a taboo among the Chinese and since some of Japanese culture is taken from Chinese, I guess it might apply to them too.
Wow, you ppl know a lot about incest. lol (no offense to anyone....i just didnt know which cultures approved/disapproved of it.)
BG-57
11-19-2005, 12:23 PM
It's a tradition among royalty as well, since there were so few of them and they could only marry other royalty. Egyptian pharohs often married their sisters. European royalty has been tremendously inbred.
Yeah, I know exactly what ur talking about. I know too much about Egypt. All the Gods/Goddesses/Pharoahs are all inbred to "keep a pure blood-line", or so to speak...
escobert
11-21-2005, 06:48 PM
[!]Yes he likes to hump his family. He also shoots up heroin. I sold him some last night. Damn junkies.[/!]*snip*
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Big D
11-22-2005, 02:15 AM
Actually... breeding between first cousins is fairly harmless - the birth-defect rate is about the same as for unrelated parents. In western countries, it's something of a well-entrenched urban myth that first-cousin marriages result in deformed children. This is mainly due to the royal family that was almost entirely composed of haemophiliacs.
This kind of thing is also a big factor in these relationships being regarded as taboo in most western cultures (incidentally, it's illegal in 30 US states). In many parts of Asia, however, it's fairly common - and has no ill effects on the children.
Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-22-2005, 03:26 AM
It still sounds gross...
rubah
11-22-2005, 04:33 AM
That is exactly what I'm saying. I have 6 sisters and 4 brother, only 3 of which are actually blood related. There is a reason that incest is illegal in most states. Step-sibling or not; just the thought of it makes me want to cringe. I didnt have a "crush" when I was little. I was a tom-boy and was tougher than the boys. Some kid across the street kissed me on the cheek when I was 8 and I decked him in the face. Enough said?
I said I wanted to marry my first-cousin when i was like four and barely knew what marriage was, much less why marrying a cousin would be wrong.
I don't think I even wanted to, I just said that the way little kids do xD
BG-57
11-22-2005, 12:29 PM
A lot hinges on the founder effect, where the first generation's traits are preserved in a highly inbred line. If the founder's traits are beneficial, inbreeding is advantageous, but if it isn't (like with Hemophillia), it does more harm than good.
But the lack of genetic diversity can be dangerous in the long run if the environment drastically alters and formerly beneficial traits could become a liability. A highly inbred population cannot adapt very well to changes and are all vunerable to the same things (I remember reading that 25% of pure-bred Dalmations are born deaf).
Of course, this is with highly inbred populations. Out-breeding every couple of generations can prevent most of this from happening.
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