Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

[Rye]

Man I'm excited to see it. I'm hoping it won't be a total dissapointment like the last one. The 4th, 5th and 6th books are my favourites, so hopefully, the movies for them will be good.

I have my tickets pre-bought for later tomorrow. Who else is excited to see it?

[Tabris]

I am definitly excited to see it! I'm having premiere tickets for tomorrow! :D

[Dreddz]

half way through Goblet is where i stopped harry potter, shall I see it, who knows .....

[GooeyToast]

I'm still not sure how they crammed a 734 page book into a 2 1/2 hour movie.

Yeah I'm still gonna go see it, but I sure hope it doesn't dissapoint me.

[Dreddz]

Wasnt the last movie crap though ?

[GooeyToast]

No it wasn't crap

[Miriel]

Wasnt the last movie crap though ?
I thought the 3rd movie was far superior to the first two movies.

I'm extra excited to see this movie. :)

[Yamaneko]

If you've seen one, you've seen them all.

[Destai]

I'm still not sure how they crammed a 734 page book into a 2 1/2 hour movie.

Yeah I'm still gonna go see it, but I sure hope it doesn't dissapoint me.What theyve done is pretty much filmed most of the book and then they decided it was a thriller and focused mainly on the exciting scenes and scenes of storyline.

I meant to book tickets tonight for me and friends but its all booked out. I'll wait till nest week or saturday if I can get in.

[GooeyToast]

That's a shame. That's not what HP is about.

[Destai]

That's a shame. That's not what HP is about.
I thought it was. Adventure and stuff like that. The exciting scenes were the best when I read the book. The scenes were you couldnt put the book down.

[GooeyToast]

Well HP isn't a "thriller"

[Swifthom]

No, but the fourth book was...
I alwyas hated it as a book, thinking it would make the best movie... The action scenes arent just nice, their IMPORTANT to the story...

And it's got David Tennant in it, a rising star, even if he's only in a few small scenes... Yep, Im watching :)

[fire_of_avalon]

I can't wait for tomorrow night. My sister and me are having sister time with it and it's gonna be sooo awesome.

[Kirobaito]

I've got Thanksgiving Break all week next week, so my friends and I will go see it during the day for a cheaper price.

[Slade]

Yeah I hope this movie turns out good..im also getting pretty excited. The Goblet of Fire was the best book in my opinion. Hopefully the movie won't go too fast. The Prisoner of Azkaban movie was way too fast paced in my opinion. Things happened too quick. But I guess you cant blame them, its hard to fit an entire book into one movie.

[theundeadhero]

I can't wait to see it.

[DMKA]

I'm going to see it right after work tomorrow. Can't wait. The last movie was excellent, don't listen to otherwise.

[ISRviper]

I am really excited to see the 4th movie, but there is still no date on when it will be released here and only thing I have to comfort me is, that they will be showing the 3rd movie tonight on TV.

[Chris]

Man I'm excited to see it. I'm hoping it won't be a total dissapointment like the last one.
:confused: I thought the last movie was rocking! IMO.
Anyways, I can't wait for this movie ether.

[Dreddz]

I have my tickets pre-bought for later tomorrow
I dont think thats really worth it, this isnt the movie of the year ........

[escobert]

Since this was my favorite book of the series I'm just hopping the movie and atleast ok. I think it would be hard to fit a lot of it in. Gonna be a long movie.

[GunbladeMaster]

im gonna see it on monday
thats the day when the prices are lowered from 18 Francs per person to 12 Francs per person :)

[Zeldy]

Ill wait till my Dad buys it on DVD, Im not spending £10 on the Cinema.

I really dislike the Cinema ;_____;

[GunbladeMaster]

:eek:
how can u not love the popcorn or the nachos!
or the cinematic feel (if thats even a word :p)

[GooeyToast]

Go to a matinee showing! That's what I do

[RPJesus]

I stopped reading them after the fourth book. The first three were good, but the 4th was so annoyingly predictable. I was going to read the 5th one, but could barely remember the previous one. So I tried reading it again, and just couldn't. It was so incredibly dull. And the guy was an adolescent little turd.
They've crapped up, really. I still want to see the movie, though.

[DMKA]

I am really excited to see the 4th movie, but there is still no date on when it will be released here and only thing I have to comfort me is, that they will be showing the 3rd movie tonight on TV.
What? It comes out the 18th (today).

I walked to the theater and it was 12:30, and it started at 12:00...the next isn't until 3:05, so I'll be going then. I'm excited. :D

[Dreddz]

Im not spending £10 on the Cinema.
holy moly, I spend £2.50 to go to the cinema, either your cinema is a total rip, or up north is just a total rip

[Chris]

holy moly, I spend £2.50 to go to the cinema, either your cinema is a total rip, or up north is just a total rip
It's his "thing" being a total drama queen. :love:

[Destai]

10£ is probably how much you'd spend in your average cinema on tickets, over priced food, over priced drink etc. Its where cinemas make most of there money.

[Zeldy]

holy moly, I spend £2.50 to go to the cinema, either your cinema is a total rip, or up north is just a total rip
A ticket is £3.70.
Its probably more these days, I havnt been for years.
And when you buy drinks and sweets it ends up expensive.

[vampirepiggyhunter7]

I liked the third one... BUT i hate what they did to the book.
BUTCHERED!

[GunbladeMaster]

what did they do??

[Rye]

It was fan-smurfing-tastic. MUCH better than the last one. I LOVED the movie. And it was pretty accurate. It was just a bit... abridged, but that's understandable. :) It was also funny at some scenes, but not a happy joke like the last movie, it was dark mostly. And oh man, the SFX were godly. The Triwizard Cup scenes were just amazing.

dreddz: Well, in my opinion, it is. I'm a HUGE fan of the books.

[Craig]

It's like, £5-6 to buy a ticket at my cinema, jeez.

I really wanna see this movie, out of boredom mostly, but the cinema will be packed for a few days so I'll wait a while.

[SuperMillionaire]

I REALLY wanna see this; it's gonna be mad good!

[DynasticJam]

I saw it tonight! Great!!

[kikimm]

I'm excited about seeing it, but I'm working all weekend and *other stuff* so it'll have to wait until next week, which is poop. Seems like this one came out really really fast. Not that that's a bad thing, but just saying.

[DMKA]

Just got back from it. I LOVED it. By far the best yet, and the best movie I've seen this year.

[SummonerYuna]

OMG!! I'm going to see it tommororw! I can't wait!:love:

[Kirobaito]

I've heard nothing but good news, and so I decided I'll see it at 11:30 tonight, after Jeff gets off work. We might be a little late, but hopefully at 11:30 it won't be packed.

[StarlightAngel]

I saw it just a couple hours ago. In my opinion, they totally screwed it over. All they really did was do the Triwizard tournament, and nothing else. They cut out soooo much, and changed a bunch of things... >.<

[GunbladeMaster]

well did they have alll the important stuff???

[Resha]

I'm still not sure how they crammed a 734 page book into a 2 1/2 hour movie.
They didn't do it all that well, in my opinion. It seemed kinda choppy here and there, like it'd been spliced in the wrong parts. But I guess it was extremely hard, so I forgive them. (Comparatively, it could've been better!) :)

I thought the 3rd movie was far superior to the first two movies.
It was! ^_^ I still like the third movie better'n this one, too. But their acting has improved in this movie!

I was going to read the 5th one, but could barely remember the previous one. So I tried reading it again, and just couldn't. It was so incredibly dull. And the guy was an adolescent little turd.
Yes. :love: You understand. The fifth book was an abomination. The sixth was slightly better. :p

The Triwizard Cup scenes were just amazing.
YES THEY WERE. THE STADIUM WAS WHOA. :love::love::love:!!!

[Rye]

Yeah, I dunno if I liked the lake scene or the dragon scenes more. I wish they had the Sphinx in the last scene, since I loved it, but eh. xD Am I weird for finding Fred & George hot in this movie? I didn't see it in the last movie, but I noticed it in this movie. xD

[GunbladeMaster]

o yeah
the Sphinx inside of the Maze
that was a brain puzzler in the book!
they didnt have that in the movie??? :(

[Resha]

Yeah, I dunno if I liked the lake scene or the dragon scenes more. I wish they had the Spinx in the last scene, but eh. xD Am I weird for finding Fred & George hot in this movie? I didn't see it in the last movie, but I noticed it in this movie. xD

FRED AND GEORGE WERE AMAZING. And so was Barty Crouch Jr. ;____; I know, I know he's the bad guy. But he was cute! But too old. But cute! But he kept sticking his tongue out. But CUTE!!!!! But evil. *sighs* Conflicting emotions...

Edit: Oh, how frivolous. *shame*

[GunbladeMaster]

:O_O:
wtf...?

[Alive-Cat]

OMG I WAS GOING TO SEE THAT TODAY!!! BUT I COULDN'T!!! And you rubbed it in my face...like some kind of sick FREAK.
HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT A COP?!?!?!

[GunbladeMaster]

uh oh
my covers been blown
take cover!!!
--------->:mario:--------->--------to the cinema>-------->------>meets Alive Man :luigi:-------->:mario: :luigi:------->-------->:save: :save: :choc2: CINEMA!!! :choc2: :save: :save:

[Shauna]

I saw it last night. It was awesome. The SFX were great, I agree. ^__^

The girl who played Cho Chang, I knew her and I used to bully her when we were in school. >=D

...Not really... It's just that, she's Scottish, and she sounded like she was from around Glasgow like me... And nobody would know. :p

[Storm]

I saw the GoF yesterday afternoon, and it was extremely disappointing. I know the movie can't incorporate everything from the book, but they did a lot of stuff that just wasn't right, such as:

1. Dumbledore is totally out of character. He's really aggressive and angry. The way he reacts to Harry being chosen from the GoF is blown out of proportion.

2. Wormtail is out of character. In the book, he's so scared in the graveyard that he is constantly shaking and wimpering. In fact, in the book he doesn't even have the courage to look Harry in the eyes. In the movie, he is confident and even after he cuts his hand off, it doesn't seem like he is in that much pain.

3. The exclusion of Dobby and Winky from the movie were really bad choices. In the book, Dobby gives Harry the gillyweed and Winky is accused of creating the Dark Mark. In the movie, they introduced Barty Crouch Jr. way too early in the film. And as if he would just casually be walking around the camp grounds considering how he just escaped from Azkaban.

4. The first task scene is absurd. In the book, it's as simple as Harry calling his broom and making a few fancy moves to get around the dragon to grab the egg. In the movie, the dragon chases him practially around the entire continent.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

<b>Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire</b>

Reactions:

1. Transition? We don't need transition! We switch scene like ninja!

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3. Everything in life becomes better with gay jokes.

4. Apparently 10 guys in skeleton masks can subdue an encampment of several thousand armed people.

5. We'll cut out or otherwise condense several relatively crucial plot points so we can make the dragon scene unnecessarily longer.

6. "Hey, we need to make this movie as dark as we can. Just to make sure nobody think's we're screwing around."

"But how?"

"Hey! I know! Let's turn down the resolution and make it even darker!"

"Brilliant! Wizards don't have lightbulbs anyways!"

7. "That Dumbledore is boring, he's too nice."

"I know! Let's make him really high-strung and borderline abusive to his students! It totally fits the character! Or not!

8. The Patil twins are Indian! Rawk!

9. These house elves might spark social movement in our children, and they're kind of extra anyways. Chop chop!

10. "Isn't this guy supposed to be revealed at the end so that people have no idea what the ending's going to be because they weren't given enough information to justify it?"

"Well, it wouldn't hurt to show him I guess. That means people will already suspect him and they can have fun guessing what's going on!"

"Wasn't it a book first, sir?"

"Eh, details details."

[Rye]

""I know! Let's make him really high-strung and borderline abusive to his students! It totally fits the character! Or not!

8. The Patil twins are Indian! Rawk!"

5. We'll cut out or otherwise condense several relatively crucial plot points so we can make the dragon scene unnecessarily longer.


Wow, those really ran through my mind. xD I loved the books, but Dumbledore was horrible in this one.

[GunbladeMaster]

dumbledore is supposed to be like Yoda
not like some old crack pot

[Storm]

By showing that Barty Crouch Jr. is a villian early in the movie, it takes away any chance of suspecting Karkaroff is Voldemort's servant at Hogwarts. I don't what was up with Karkaroff entering the room with the GoF late a night. I think they were trying to make us suspect he was the bad guy, but they already screwed that up by showing Crouch Jr.

[GunbladeMaster]

whos Karkaroff??

[Shauna]

BtV... I thought about a lot of those things when I watched the movie. xD

[Dreddz]

Is this the last movie, are they doing the other ones ?

[Kirobaito]

I saw it last night. It was awesome. The SFX were great, I agree. ^__^

The girl who played Cho Chang, I knew her and I used to bully her when we were in school. >=D

...Not really... It's just that, she's Scottish, and she sounded like she was from around Glasgow like me... And nobody would know. :p
Plus Katie Leung is several years older than you and would have been bullying you. :p

I don't see any reason why ANYBODY can have serious problems with this movie. Especially for "cutting things out." If they didn't cut things out, it would have been 6 hours long. The beginning HAD to be done quickly, and it was done so, and after they got to Hogwarts, I think the movie flowed wonderfully. Voldemort was, actually, exactly how I imagined him. This could be the best movie I've seen this year. It's a shame that Mike Newell won't be doing <i>Order of the Phoenix</i>, because he did a wonderful job with this one. Brendan Gleeson as Mad-Eye Moody was fantastic.

[Lord Xehanort]

It has Daniel Radcliffe with a bath scene! *droolzors* I love it!

But it wasn't as good as I thought, movie-wise.... the book was superior. Although, it was far greater than the 3rd movie... blech.

[Shauna]

Plus Katie Leung is several years older than you and would have been bullying you. :p

Yeah, yeah. I know. I just wanted to say it. :(

Overall, the movie was great. But... Some points that were kinda crucial... Can't think of any atm, but when I watched the film there were some things that could have been put in, but were just removed so they could have Harry hang off a roof. :greenie:

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

My list aside, I actually enjoyed the movie quite a bit. I went in expecting a horribly choppy but fun movie, and that's exactly what I got. I don't have any problems with it, and the jokes were actually rather amusing, the script falling flat in only a few minor places.

[Resha]

The dragon scene was weird. Awesome special effects...throughout the whole movie!...but it was so drawn out. And wtf did he start destroying Hogwarts!? And they placed the Quidditch pitch so far away from Hoggy Warty Hogwarts.

-_- And the stereotype of the Patil twins at the Yule ball...grrr...argh...*angry* :mad2: It's like they forgot about cultural imperialism or something. :laugh:

[Craig]

Was Harry's acting good this time? The "HE WAS THEIR FRIEND" scene from the 3rd one made me laugh the other day.

[Swifthom]

Spoilered review:

Acting was superb, but special mention to Barty Crouch Junior (David Tennant?), Mad Eye Moody (?), Snape (Alan Rickman) and Violdemort (Ralph Fiennes)... Not quite so special mentions but great job also goes to Daniel Radcliff (Harry), the bloke who played Barty Crouch Senior and Michael gambon (dumbledore)

As an adaptation of the book it's a failure, it misses so much out. But as a MOVIE, as it's own story i'd say it's BY FAR the best so far. Not just because of BOTH versions of Barty Crouch making him the most brilliant villain ever, but because the actingall round, pacing is good and it has an actual movie standard plot which is realised well, rather than just presented in front of us...

The only thing I felt which was poorly explained was the one line; "Prior incantarti makes wands regurgitate their last spells." Dumbledore explains that it wasnt really Harries parents but the loss of that ONE LINE is the only thing that bothered me :)


Oh. and go David Tennant, he just works so well. The scenes where he plays a psychotic murderer, brilliant. The scene where he tries to slip out of the courtroom, brilliant. The scene where he's sucking up to Voldemort, brilliant. The scene where he's stalking the ruins of the camp, ohhh.... That was just... BRILLIANT :)
I just wish we'd of had more of him, and more of Mad Eye, they were just COMPLETELY brilliant characters... or a character.... :p

[Lord Xehanort]

Was Harry's acting good this time? The "HE WAS THEIR FRIEND" scene from the 3rd one made me laugh the other day.

What? I don't remember that line...

[Craig]

When he goes to Hogsmead or whatever it's called. He goes into the pub with his invisiblity cloak on and finds out that guy is his god parent. Then he is sat on the rock crying and shouts it, followed by something along the lines of "I'm going to kill him!" Which is equally hilarious.

[Lord Xehanort]

Oooohhhhhh...... Sirius Black.... yeah.

Harry's acting isn't bad, but I still prefer his naked, moist, teenage body... *melts*

[Bladis]

cough*gay*cough :D

[Lord Xehanort]

cough*DUH*cough

Maybe the bishonen in my rainbow sig or my uber custom title gave you a hint or two... Or is it the fact that I flirt with Chris and beg him to put his photo in his sig?

BACK TO THE MOVIE: thar bee spoilerz ahed

The maze was lame... the Acromantula was nowhere, same as the Blast-Ended Skrewts...

[Bladis]

im new! i know nothing! :D

[Storm]

Oh. and go David Tennant, he just works so well. The scenes where he plays a psychotic murderer, brilliant. The scene where he tries to slip out of the courtroom, brilliant. The scene where he's sucking up to Voldemort, brilliant. The scene where he's stalking the ruins of the camp, ohhh.... That was just... BRILLIANT :)


1. In the book, when Crouch Jr. is accused of being in league with Voldemort, he begs his father not to send him to Azkaban. In the movie, they make Crouch Jr. seem like a lunatic by yelling "The dark lord will rise again!". This never happened. I think Bellatrix Lestrange was the person to yell that. Just like Dumbledore, they have Crouch Jr. out of character.

2. Crouch Jr., a person who recently escaped from Azkaban, would NOT be freely strolling around the burnt campground, especially one full of people from the Ministry of Magic. In the book, I think he is hiding in the hedges or something when he sends out the dark mark, not casually strolling around.

[Yoruhoshi]

It was tolerable but Snape hitting Harry and Ron in the head was a riot.

[Jess]

Some of your cinemas are real cheap, where I'm at its £6.50 for a ticket, unless you have proof of ID on you to say that you're a student - in which case its £5.00. And then theres the food, the drinks - raising the price to about £10.

Anyway, I'm not actually going to see the movie. I've never read any of the books, or watched any of the other films - I don't know why, I just suppose I never got into them really. :)

[Storm]

Anyway, I'm not actually going to see the movie. I've never read any of the books, or watched any of the other films - I don't know why, I just suppose I never got into them really. :)
Please don't feel obligated to make a post if you have nothing to contribute to the conversation. I don't mean to be a jerk, but irrelevant posts make the thread unnecessarily longer and more difficult to get through.

[Destai]

Please don't feel obligated to make a post if you have nothing to contribute to the conversation. I don't mean to be a jerk, but irrelevant posts make the thread unnecessarily longer and more difficult to get through.shes on topic because shes talking about the movie even if its how shes not going to see it.

[Cloud Valentine]

1. In the book, when Crouch Jr. is accused of being in league with Voldemort, he begs his father not to send him to Azkaban. In the movie, they make Crouch Jr. seem like a lunatic by yelling "The dark lord will rise again!". This never happened. I think Bellatrix Lestrange was the person to yell that. Just like Dumbledore, they have Crouch Jr. out of character.

I also believe it was Bellatrix that used the crucio curse on the Longbottoms, not Crouch Jr. as the film said. There were quite a few inaccuracies in the film, as well as a lot of stuff left out that really should've been kept in (Rita skeeter as a beetle, anyone?). I also virtually forgot Hogwarts was a school during the film, it was so focused on the triwizard tournament. The maze also could've been a whole lot better.

That said, the film was fun, and of the scenes they did keep in they were done very well (except for the dragon scene, that was far too long). I especially liked the ferret scene, possibly one of my favourite parts of the book.

Sucks for the spectators of the tournament though. Harry led the dragon around hogwarts out of sight, they couldn't see them in the lake much, and how on earth were they meant to follow them through that giant misty maze with hedges at least 6 metres tall?

[Spiffing Cheese]

I saw it today! I really enjoyed it and DAVID TENNANT = GORGEOUS. Although I was minorly annoyed at the fact that the part where Fudge is a nasty idiot and doesn't believe Harry was taken out. Dude.

DAVID TENNANT.

[Ultimate99997]

just a few words to say...... DONT READ HARRY POTTER ITS A MAJOR RIPOFF CONTAINING OBVIOUS CONTENT (adapted for kids, and to avoid copyright infringement) FROM LORD OF THE RINGS >:( !!

lotr forever :) hehe

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Enough about Ansem's signature. It's a finger. End of discussion.

Anyways...


just a few words to say...... DONT READ HARRY POTTER ITS A MAJOR RIPOFF CONTAINING OBVIOUS CONTENT (adapted for kids, and to avoid copyright infringement) FROM LORD OF THE RINGS >:( !!

lotr forever :) hehe

What in the world are you talking about? There are absolutely no parallels between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings as far as storyline, world, or otherwise. At all. They're completely different. I mean they aren't even the same style of fantasy.

[GooeyToast]

Enough about Ansem's signature. It's a finger. End of discussion.

Anyways...



What in the world are you talking about? There are absolutely no parallels between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings as far as storyline, world, or otherwise. At all. They're completely different. I mean they aren't even the same style of fantasy.
Agreed.

I just saw the movie tonight, and I must say it was quite a bit better than I thought it would be. The acting was much better from the kids this time, and I thought Emma Watson did a great job as Hermione, as well as the dudes who played Fred and George.

Althought they did leave out quite a bit, for it being a 2 1/2 hour movie adapted from a 734 page book, I thought they did quite a good job of putting most of the content in. Unlike PoA, it didn't feel too incredibly rushed, which is odd considering the book is almost twice as long as PoA. I just wish they would've put the goddamn World Cup game in considering it took up the first 100 or so pages of the book.

The Special effects were very good, although I found the maze and dragon to be a tad underwhelming. The guy who played Voldemort just didn't seem right to me. I imagined him to be much more disfigured and menacing, much the same as Mad-Eye who I thought didn't quite fit the "wood carved" description they had in the book. Snape was great as always, but once again Wormtail looked retarted. Rita Skeeter fit the role well, although I always thought she had black hair instead of blonde. I pictured Victor Krum to be much more....foreign looking, with big eyebrows and HAIR like he has in the book. Instead I got what looked like a street thug with an obviously fake accent for his 4 or so speaking parts in the movie. I think they did do a good job with Diggory though. However, where the hell was Bagman in the movie? Hello! He was a very important character in the book!

All in all, it was a pretty good movie, much better than I expected. I can't say I have too many complaints with the limited time they were working with, except what I mentioned above. I just wish they would have done more with Sirius, considering how we all know how very important he is in the next book. I'm just trying to figure out why and the hell they changed the role of Lestrange as the person who tortured Nevilles parents to Crouch Jr! I wonder how they're gonna cover that in the upcoming movies.

Alright my rant on the movie is over. Time for some Goobers! :)

[Kirobaito]

The Special effects were very good, although I found the maze and dragon to be a tad underwhelming. The guy who played Voldemort just didn't seem right to me. I imagined him to be much more disfigured and menacing, much the same as Mad-Eye who I thought didn't quite fit the "wood carved" description they had in the book. Snape was great as always, but once again Wormtail looked retarted. Rita Skeeter fit the role well, although I always thought she had black hair instead of blonde. I pictured Victor Krum to be much more....foreign looking, with big eyebrows and HAIR like he has in the book. Instead I got what looked like a street thug with an obviously fake accent for his 4 or so speaking parts in the movie. I think they did do a good job with Diggory though. However, where the hell was Bagman in the movie? Hello! He was a very important character in the book!
The guy who played Krum really was foreign, so it was quite a real accent.

And Bagman may have been somewhat impactful in the book, but his part can ultimately be removed because it's irrelevant to the main story.

[GooeyToast]

Ok then I take that back, but he still kinda looked like a thug

[fire_of_avalon]

There are so many plot holes that will have to be filled IF they choose to make the rest of the books into films it's not even funny. Funding for the joke shop? Familial relationships amongst the Order and the Death Eaters? How Harry will be redeemed in the eyes of the wizarding public in the next film?

I can't wait to see how they do them, if they do. It will be interesting. :D

[Kirobaito]

There are so many plot holes that will have to be filled IF they choose to make the rest of the books into films it's not even funny. Funding for the joke shop? Familial relationships amongst the Order and the Death Eaters? How Harry will be redeemed in the eyes of the wizarding public in the next film?

I can't wait to see how they do them, if they do. It will be interesting. :D
The funding for the joke shop can be explained by the betting that F & G did at the tasks, perhaps. It's possible that the funding won't even need to be explained or discussed at all - there's not much point spending a great amount of time turning an 800-page book into a movie while spending time with stuff that is, in the long run, rather trivial.

Familial relationships amongst the Order/Death Eaters shouldn't be discussed in this movie anyway. Most of the audience will have forgotten most of what's occurred in this one by May of 2007.

I don't know what was going on with the Barty Crouch Jr./Longbottom thing, nor will I attempt to explain it.

[Freya]

MAY HAVE SPOILERS!!

If you havent read the books and you see the movie then it is a great movie. But i htought they killed it. I mean it was pretty and everything and it was good acting but just parts in it ticked me off.

20 reasons why lekana doesn't like this movie:

1. Winky, Dobby, and S.P.E.W. Where'd it go i thought that was a main thing in it and couldn't believe they took it out.
2. The Quidditch World Cup. I was looking forward to seeing the mascots and see the fake out seeker thing and nothing all you get is them coming in the stadium. The deatheaters are suppose to run in fear of the dark mark and barty crouch jr. shouldn't be walking around he shouldn't even be introduced tell almost the end.
3. Hogwarts just seems to be a hotel not a school, no mention of classes or anything. And the setting of the movies change way too much. Pick one place to film already i mean with cliffs or without, flat land or not.
4. First task. The dragon thing on hogwarts wtf was that?
5. No charlie! I wanted to see charlie weasly and they just mention him.
6. Neville isn't suppose to give the gillyweed to him dobby is NO DOBBY!
7. Rita Skeeter was played wonderfully but wheres the part where shes a bug? How are they going to explain how harrys story gets out in the next movie aye? And wheres the part where Mrs. Weasly is mad at hermoine?
8. What about the dead guy in the woods? It shows him then cuts to harry in DD's office and he doesn't say anything about it?
9. DD's mean!
10. The Blaste ended skerwts? where are they. The maze had alot of stuff left out in it.
11. Voldy had no nose!!! I always pictured him with a nose not slits.
12. Wormtail was scared when int he presence of voldy. And he says the names of the deatheaters sofast that you cant hear about crabb and goyles daddys.
13. Barty Crouch Jr. was suppose to die so that's why no believes him in the next one.
14. adressing cedrics death, wtf "A kid has died we are sad voldy is back but we don't care that much go home and have a nice summer." that's it basicly.
15. The end, "Oh yay cedric is dead but we're going home!"
"Oh yay voldy is back but we're going home!"
16. The end "write me guys" WTF is that, the greatest known evil is back and you are going to worry about keeping in touch over the summer. THE GREATEST KNOWN EVIL!!!!!!!! Don't you people get that? "Send the kids home, they don't have to worry about dying beacuse of the The Greatest Known Evil is out on the lose. That's nonsense. What a frog in my beard? That's nonsense." I mean are they oblivous to what had happened and that a kid showed up dead? grr
17. DD explaining the wand thing. He didn't really.
18. The whole movie was choppy it went from one seen to another without any transtions.
19. My theater was as cold as it was outside. 45 degrees F. My nose was red cause it was so cold in there.
20. I had to pay 7.75$ to go and see a movie that made me mad cause they cut so much out. I mean it wouldn't hurt yeah to make 2 movies. In fact do what LOTR did and sell mercendise and have a couple months time inbetween so you can make more money!

I loved the acting and it was a good movie for what it was but i hated how they cut so much out.

[Kirobaito]

MAY HAVE SPOILERS!!

If you havent read the books and you see the movie then it is a great movie. But i htought they killed it. I mean it was pretty and everything and it was good acting but just parts in it ticked me off.

20 reasons why lekana doesn't like this movie:

1. Winky, Dobby, and S.P.E.W. Where'd it go i thought that was a main thing in it and couldn't believe they took it out.
2. The Quidditch World Cup. I was looking forward to seeing the mascots and see the fake out seeker thing and nothing all you get is them coming in the stadium. The deatheaters are suppose to run in fear of the dark mark and barty crouch jr. shouldn't be walking around he shouldn't even be introduced tell almost the end.
3. Hogwarts just seems to be a hotel not a school, no mention of classes or anything. And the setting of the movies change way too much. Pick one place to film already i mean with cliffs or without, flat land or not.
4. First task. The dragon thing on hogwarts wtf was that?
5. No charlie! I wanted to see charlie weasly and they just mention him.
6. Neville isn't suppose to give the gillyweed to him dobby is NO DOBBY!
7. Rita Skeeter was played wonderfully but wheres the part where shes a bug? How are they going to explain how harrys story gets out in the next movie aye? And wheres the part where Mrs. Weasly is mad at hermoine?
8. What about the dead guy in the woods? It shows him then cuts to harry in DD's office and he doesn't say anything about it?
9. DD's mean!
10. The Blaste ended skerwts? where are they. The maze had alot of stuff left out in it.
11. Voldy had no nose!!! I always pictured him with a nose not slits.
12. Wormtail was scared when int he presence of voldy. And he says the names of the deatheaters sofast that you cant hear about crabb and goyles daddys.
13. Barty Crouch Jr. was suppose to die so that's why no believes him in the next one.
14. adressing cedrics death, wtf "A kid has died we are sad voldy is back but we don't care that much go home and have a nice summer." that's it basicly.
15. The end, "Oh yay cedric is dead but we're going home!"
"Oh yay voldy is back but we're going home!"
16. The end "write me guys" WTF is that, the greatest known evil is back and you are going to worry about keeping in touch over the summer. THE GREATEST KNOWN EVIL!!!!!!!! Don't you people get that? "Send the kids home, they don't have to worry about dying beacuse of the The Greatest Known Evil is out on the lose. That's nonsense. What a frog in my beard? That's nonsense." I mean are they oblivous to what had happened and that a kid showed up dead? grr
17. DD explaining the wand thing. He didn't really.
18. The whole movie was choppy it went from one seen to another without any transtions.
19. My theater was as cold as it was outside. 45 degrees F. My nose was red cause it was so cold in there.
20. I had to pay 7.75$ to go and see a movie that made me mad cause they cut so much out. I mean it wouldn't hurt yeah to make 2 movies. In fact do what LOTR did and sell mercendise and have a couple months time inbetween so you can make more money!

I loved the acting and it was a good movie for what it was but i hated how they cut so much out.
1. SPEW was the most God-awful thing in the entire series, and would have added time to a movie that was already 159 minutes long. It's unnecessary and (imo) unbearable even in the books.
2. This is a movie, not a book. They needed to establish Barty Crouch's existence without spending text talking about him. This is a necessary plot change. I admit that I would have liked to have seen some Quidditch, but I understand why it was cut.
3. I understand how you feel.
4. It was giving people their broomstick fetish when Quidditch couldn't be used.
5. Meh.
6. Including Dobby would open up too many doors without being able to shut them. Having Neville give it to him cuts out point B on the way to A and C. Much easier to do it this way.
7. Having Harry get his story out in the next one probably will not be there. Most non-HP fans will not sit through a 4-hour retelling of the book.
8. I understand what you mean.
9. Michael Gambon doesn't understand what the hell he's doing. He needs to be removed from his role NOW. Bring back Richard Harris from the dead or something. I was hoping that his acting in PoA was a result of Alfonso Cuaron, but it's not - he really just doesn't understand.
10. Too much time, and too many other scenes would have needed to be included to have the Blast-Ended Skrewts. The essence of the maze was changed so that they wouldn't have to include an extra 5 minutes of fighting monsters.
11.

The thin man stepped out of the cauldren, staring at Harry . . . and Harry started back into the face that had haunted his nightmares for three years. Whiter than a skull, with wide, livid scarlet eyes and a nose that was flat as a snake's with slits for nostrils . . .
12. Meh.
13. We'll see what happens.
14. Did you want a carbon copy of Dumbledore's speech, that would have added more time?
15. The director hardly wants everyone to be depressed upon leaving the theater, and he wants them to feel some closure.
16. ^ Same
17. I agree. A more clear, not necessarily longer, explanation was needed for Priori Incantatum.
18. I can understand what you mean. This is an inevitable consequence of turning a 734-page book into a 2 1/2-hour movie.
20. 2 movies would be absolutely disastrous for the franchise.

[Reles]

I loved the movie. Yay the Weird Sisters! (sorry I'm a big radiohead fan and went nuts when I saw them, although they didn't have a lot of the in the movie) I knew that they'd have to cut out a lot, but I was still open minded about the movie as a whole, and found all of the shots amazingly beautiful. Also, one of the things they changed was where the person who send the mark of death in the air, wasn't it suppose to be in a forest? But instead it was at the actual campsite, and yeah, the whole Winky thing. DD scared me too, I was kind of shocked when he attacked Harry, I always thought DD knew Harry well enough that he wouldn't put his name in the goblet. But overall, it was entertaining.

[KH-Cloudy]

i just saw harry potter 4 today....it was tight dude u guys that havent seen it should go watch it...dubledores so mean.....><......ron looks funny during the yue ball :D.....ron and harry gets smacked on the head.......those were spoilers :D.......i cant wait til the Order Of the Phoenix and The Half Blood Prince.........SOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITING......

[Markus. D]

this movie looks neat.


i never read the fourth book ever since....



but i like how this one might surpass the pg rating in australia 0_o

[Project G]

I can't believe I have stained mt eyes by watching that predictable thing you guys call a film. I feel so violated

[Craig]

That movie was perverted. Exampes:

1. At the yule ball, Hermione walked down in her dress then met her date. As they began to walk together the guy looked to his right, with what can only be described as a blatent "Ohh yeah, I'm getting some tonight" look. The fact that Hermione is 14, and he is at least 17 (But looks much older) makes this much worse.

2. The bath scene. At first it wasn't so bad, just a bit of flirting, the ghost teasing because he was naked. By the end of the scene she was sat next to him obviously fiddling around under the water. She may only be a ghost, but that really isn't the point.

EDIT: Oh, but I did like the movie.

[Kirobaito]

That movie was perverted. Exampes:

1. At the yule ball, Hermione walked down in her dress then met her date. As they began to walk together the guy looked to his right, with what can only be described as a blatent "Ohh yeah, I'm getting some tonight" look. The fact that Hermione is 14, and he is at least 17 (But looks much older) makes this much worse.

2. The bath scene. At first it wasn't so bad, just a bit of flirting, the ghost teasing because he was naked. By the end of the scene she was sat next to him obviously fiddling around under the water. She may only be a ghost, but that really isn't the point.

EDIT: Oh, but I did like the movie.
Well, actually, Hermione is 15. Though that doesn't change much. She was born in September of the year BEFORE Harry, 1979.

[Miriel]

I loved it. Best out of the four movies, I think.

I'm perfectly fine with whatever they cut out from the books for the movies. I've had problems with this before, where the book was adapted in an unsatisfactory way. But with this movie I thought they did a superb job of cutting out what needed to be cut but still keeping all the really significant stuff as well as making everything fit together nicely. I'm glad the elfs were cut.

Ralph Fiennes as great as Voldemort. Which may or may not be a good thing. Aren't we supposed to dislike the bad guy? I think I just might love him. Miranda Richardson was also really great as Rita Skeeter. Nailed it perfectly.

All around the acting was much better than the first two movies, and I'm really glad that Ron got to do a bit more in this movie than just look freaked out all the time. I really liked how they handled the death of Cedric. I got teary-eyed.

The only thing that bothered me a bit was Dumbledore. Dumbledore seemed...not Dumbledore-like. Did anyone else feel this way? I didn't like his portrayal.

[CloudDragon]

<B><U>Highlight of the Movie:</b></u>

-Radiohead's Johnny Greenwood & Phil Selway making a cameo in the rock band during the Yule Ball.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

I cried at the movie, my friend was growling at me because I was whinying as in "awwww...."

But I wished there was a little less bubbles in the bath tub scene.

Was it me or was Emma Watson gorguous at the Yule ball?

The only thing I found awkward is that Ron, and Harry much more so than Hermione looked like they were 17 and the twins looked like they were in their twenties.

[TurkSlayer]

I got back from this movie a few hours ago, and I must say I really enjoyed it. The action scenes (Particuarly the dragon fight) were very cool, and it had perhaps the best part in the entire series: Where Moody turns Malfoy into a ferret. That was great. Still, it was rather annoying that they took so much out. But then, they couldn't make the movie much longer than they did, so they really had to cut out the unnecessary parts.

Whoever said that Dumbledore was mean, I agree entirely. That actor is terrible.

[Project G]

<B><U>Highlight of the Movie:</b></u>

-Radiohead's Johnny Greenwood & Phil Selway making a cameo in the rock band during the Yule Ball.

That was cool, but didnt they have Bill Nighy (Love Actually, Underworld) as the frontman?

[Ultimate99997]

Enough about Ansem's signature. It's a finger. End of discussion.

Anyways...



What in the world are you talking about? There are absolutely no parallels between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings as far as storyline, world, or otherwise. At all. They're completely different. I mean they aren't even the same style of fantasy.

cough...(thus ensues these 'non existent' parallels apparently)...

1. Wormtongue ......Wormtail (both cowardly servants to their masters)
2. Dark Lord Volemort..........Dark Lord Sauron
3. Dumbledore ......Gandalf (both tall wizards, white beards you know the business)
4. Harry potter and Ron Weasley.....Frodo and sam
5. Dementors..........Black riders (lol they look so similar it's a joke)
6. Harry's invisibilty cloak.......Elvaan cloak worn by frodo to make him appear invisible
7. Harry's parents murdered , orphan......Frodo's parents drown, orphan
8. ARAGOG GIANT SPIDER..........SHELOB GIANT SPIDER
9. Dobby (annoyig creature speaks in third person)....Gollum (same)
10. Fred and George Weasley (comedy aspects)...Merry and Pippin
11. Legendary sword of Gryfindor .......Anduril the legendary sword that was once broken
12. Harry's hurting scar on head......Frodo's hurting scar from morgul blade
13. Forbidden forest..........old forest near the shire (both full of 'mystical/evil' creatures

I could go on...

conclusion.....how wrong could you have been by saying there were no parallels!?

Yes they are different types of fantasy, however it is fairly blatant that JK Rowling has taken loads of lotr features and incorporated a more immature, basic storyline to appeal to a young audience; an audience she knows will wack out the cash for her 'unparalleled' (in your opinion) series of books.

Rowling obviously couldnt handle a more epic scale to her books, thus of course the worlds wot be similar...too many obvious links would gather attention and cause copyright issues.

please try to explain these links and prove me wrong if u can
coincidence? i think not.

[Lord Xehanort]

Tone down the arrogance. BtV is a mod... remember that.

Tall, white-haired, bearded men are classic wizard example (Tolkein stole it from Merlin, for example). Two male friends are a classic example of bonding (though you rarely hear of female bonding...). Comic relief could come from anywhere. Womrtongue is a name, Wormtail is a former rat who has been caged up and put through numerous tribulations by the Weasley twins. Voldemort is a classic example of a villian (Sauron was too, but he was less arrogant IMO). Dobby isn't schizophrenic. Forbidden forests are common, as well as 'dark, evil creatures in them'. Legendary swords are in English folklore (Excalibur). Orphans are common to introduce tragedy.

I give you that the Dementors and Nazgul are just too similar (though black robes are commonly seen on Death). Invisibility cloaks are similar (though they also appear in other stories).

That leaves you with one parallel: Aragog and Shelob.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Also, the dementors and the nazgul have completely different aspects. Black robed figures have certain connotations in fantasy, I use them myself and they're not uncommon at all. J.R.R. Tolkein doesn't have the monopoly on all things fantasy, and most come from ancient folklore.

As far as their appearance in the movie, if they were made to look like the Nazgul that is more than likely the fault of the directors of the movie, not of Rowlings.

The deaths of Harry Potter's parents have significance to the plot. The deaths of Frodo's, while they do have some peripheral impact, are nowhere near as important.

Also, the concept of an orphan hero is used in many, many mediums. It's hardly a new concept.

With the case of Aragog, I would like to point out that Aragog is not evil, unlike Shelob. Also, giant creatures such as spiders, snakes (such as, for example, the Basilisk, where I've yet to see a parallel drawn), etc.. are staple to fantasy.

Dumbledore is way more Merlin than he is Gandalf.

I, too, could go on.

You really have no support for your argument. You're picking out minor details and making a big deal out of them, but really it is not a relation beyond both are fantasy and use standard fantasy conventions that have been around in the mythology of several cultures for quite some time.

Just look at the plots. They're nothing alike.

Really, the major basis of Harry Potter, aside from the traditional fantasy aspects, is the old British boarding school stories, from which Hogwarts was very much inspired.

Speaking of which, where is Hogwarts in your "Harry Potter copied Lord of the Rings" list? It's fairly integral to the plot, I would think.

[Miriel]

Eh. While I disagree with Ultimate99997's obvious contempt for Rowling, I do agree with him that there are parallels between LotR and Harry Potter (whether it was intentional or not). And to claim that there are "absolutely no parallels" seems rather dismissive.

I'm not saying that Rowling copied off of LotR or that the books are even very similar. But there are some parallels and I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't understand why people are so vehemently against any sort of connection between the two books.

[xAerisx]

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I can't believe I have stained mt eyes by watching that predictable thing you guys call a film. I feel so violated

My GOD, do you get depressing about EVERYTHING?!

The film was amazing - well shot and a great storyline, which is inexclusively aimed a children, all of whom will not be omgz oh so clevar as yourself, and wouldn't have as easily predicted of the things that happened.

If you had read the book, which a great percentage of the audience would have, then you would already have know what was going to happen anyway. As I did. But the loss of the element of surprise did nothing to the films brilliance.

Stop whinging, whinge-face.-->

We don't address other members like that. Keep it up and you will not remain on this site for very long.

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[Chibi1309]

Saw this yesterday. My conclusion:

Mediocre film, with a lot of faults. Too much of the book was missed out - like Dobby the house elf, c'monnnn that's not good - and the acting wasn't very good.

I'd give it a five out of ten.

Worth seeing though.

[Markus. D]

Saw this yesterday. My conclusion:

Mediocre film, with a lot of faults. Too much of the book was missed out - like Dobby the house elf, c'monnnn that's not good - and the acting wasn't very good.

I'd give it a five out of ten.

Worth seeing though.

well, at least they threw in the upmost important parts of the story (do remember its hard to fit a good book into a movie).


.... it made the m 15+ rateing in australia YAY!

[Calliope]

I don't care about any of this garbage but:

Firstly, voldo or whatever his name is looks like Ben Stiller.

Secondly, THE JARV REVOLUTION HAS STARTED! I need to get the soundtrack now<3.

[Neco Arc]

Man I'm excited to see it. I'm hoping it won't be a total dissapointment like the last one. The 4th, 5th and 6th books are my favourites, so hopefully, the movies for them will be good.

I have my tickets pre-bought for later tomorrow. Who else is excited to see it?

There are 6 books?
Let's see
1) Harry Potter and the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone
2) Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
3) Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Askaban
4) Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
5) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Am i missing something here?...

[Itsunari 2000]

I've yet to see it - I'm not exactly jumping out of my seat to see it, but I hope I won't be disappointed - I first read the book when I was about 11, and boy, my favorite in the entire series - especially since in recent years, my memory of the books is a bit of a blur this one really stood out as THE ONE - even better than Order of the Phoenix ( Half-Blood Prince was disappointing). Even though I'm not a huge fan of the child marketing surrounding these books, and yeah, admittedly there is some immaturity in there, I like the way they've been adapted onto the silver screen.

[SeeDRankLou]

Neco Arc: Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince (just recently released)

I loved the movie.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

jus saw the movie on saturday, it was great had most parts in movie, cant wait 4 year 5

[Neco Arc]

Neco Arc: Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince (just recently released)

I loved the movie.

oh yes.. i forgot about that....

[xX.Silver.Wings.Xx]

I saw it the other day. I think It's great... But... They cut SOOOO much out of it.....
(Hooray for the Bath scene!!!!! :love:)

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

whats the name of the song the rockband played during the yule ball?

[Ultimate99997]

<!--lol you're all lifeless bastards :) get off this forum and get lives. (ban me please i hate this place)-->
<B>Do not insult other members of this forum.</b> ---RSL

[Markus. D]

my insults suck then.... wish I had that message.


well, the day draws ever so close till the day I can see it... hope it is brilliant like everyone is saying it is.

[Jack]

That film was rubbish. Emma Watson over-acted everything "Things Are Gonna...Change...Arn't they?" / Daniel Radcliffe is arogant / Rupert Grint gurned his way through it...

Thank God that David Tenanet (Barty Crouch) Brendon Gleeson (Mad-Eye) and the bloke playing Krum were there cause I would have walked out. The story was lost in the muddles of plot and the lack of subtley made it more like Philosophers Stone... Which WAS rubbish.

The only good film in the series is Azkaban, and that's only cause it has depth and artistic direction. I was very disapointed with Goblet Of Fire.

[Yuffie514]

i saw Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire about 2 weeks ago. this is my second Harry Potter movie, and of the first i've seen in a theater. the only other movie was Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets [DVD]. i'm not quite the Harry Potter fan, but it was a good movie. my brother sort of motivated me to come see it with him.

[Markus. D]

i saw it today :)

i didnt read the book beforehand (kinda makes you give a cold hand towards the film because your like: ugh.... they missed out so many things, ugh.... , hgu....) so i didnt have to compare the two, the movie is great.

it flows very fluently.... has an amazeing atmosphere, and good acting.


hermione looked purdy in her purple dress.

ps: the bath scene was a little trippy and twisted.

[Psydekick]

The movie is good and the best yet in my opinion.

[Markus. D]

Emma Watson over-acted everything "Things Are Gonna...Change...Arn't they?".

she only over acted in the first movie.


over acting is the main character who plays a female palladin.

MON.STERS. THEY ATTACK US. CANT YOU FEEL THERE PRESSENCE HERE.


*small fight*

YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE. you... AS A HERO! MUST GO TO THE CABIN AND RETRIEVE etc... etc... *conversation goes on*

[Psydekick]

I liked the end battle it was cool:)

[~SapphireStar~]

I found this film to be so emotional and I was moved to tears with Cedrics death and seeing James and Lily. Voldemort actually scared me this time. The makeup was very well done. Next to PoA, its my second favourite Potter film!

Barty Crouch JR should not have made such an early appearance. I really didnt see the need for that. Movie goers arent that stupid and Im sure if they had stuck to the book, they would have know who Barty Crouch Jr was eventually.
Also, the whole nicking Neville?! Why do that!? Nevillie is a sweetheart, the last thing on his mind would have been to steal something! I didnt know what had happened the minute that rock band came on! Totally threw me off guard and I didnt think it was nessary. I also looked forward to the other dragon battles too, but instead we cut straight to Harrys. And yes Murtle was beyond annoying, as ever.

Even though some parts did annoy me, I did enjoy the movie. I loved it when Mad Eye Moody (Baty Crouch Jr) turned Draco into the bouncing ferret! McGonagalls reaction is priceless! I also loved the return of Voldemort, that was brilliant. Really spooked me. And seeing Harrys parents and Cedrics ghost had me in tears and when Harry bought him back.

The ONLY performances I didnt like was Barty Crouch Jr (The whole tongue thing drove me mad!), Cho Chang and Harry (the scene in the owl tower was cringing and her accent?! Didnt like at all). I thought Rupert and Emma oushined Dan. They were brilliant in this movie! Brendan Gleeson was brilliant as Mad Eye Moody and I think hes a stunning actor.

[Shoden]

They should of stuck to the book and it would of made better sense, still good movie.

[Markus. D]

one of the most powerful moments of the movie.
is when they made you feel sorry for the bug.


I was really quite scared for it, poor thing.


that build up to the final fight was awe inspiring... the atmosphere of the maze was brilliant.