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Dr. Casey
11-25-2005, 06:54 AM
I love the part of the game where you're around LV. 35, where Butz goes on a quest to find himself. He's never able to, though, because he's just too deep to be comprehended. Poor guy.

Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-25-2005, 07:53 AM
I'm still at the start, but Butz seems a lot like Firioniel, no real emotion or character... just the leader...

Dr. Casey
11-25-2005, 08:00 AM
Uh, Butz shows a LOT of emotion. At one point, Lenna tells Butz that she wants to be "just friends", and he starts crying and runs away. It's truly heartbreaking.

Slade
11-25-2005, 09:25 AM
I'm still at the start, but Butz seems a lot like Firioniel, no real emotion or character... just the leader...
Hmmm....sounds like Cloud. He lacked a personality and emotion. Anyhow, Butz portrayed a more comical sort of personality in my opinion. Quite often it was him that made a tense moment slightly light hearted. But I don't think Butz really had that much of a unique personality.....He was still an awsome character though.

Christmas
11-25-2005, 12:04 PM
Especially when he show so much care for Boco....

HurriKaty
11-25-2005, 04:31 PM
You know, let me just summarize the characters of FF5 right now.

Butz: HELLO! I AM TEH HERO.
Lenna: LOOK AT ME. I AM A PRINCESS. FALL IN LOVE WITH TEH HERO OKAY.
Faris: I'm totally badass. Yar.
Galuf: Hey. I'm old. And I know stuff. Hey wait, who the hell am I?
Krile: Look! I'm adorable!

Shin Gouken
11-25-2005, 04:45 PM
Bartz isnt really the leader, he was the last person who agreed to go on this quest. Reina and faris jumped in because their father told em to and galuf felt this was the road to get his memory back. krile wanted to avenge galuf. bartz came along coz he fancied reina............shallow prick

vampirepiggyhunter7
11-25-2005, 06:47 PM
hehehe butz

Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-25-2005, 08:18 PM
Uh, Butz shows a LOT of emotion. At one point, Lenna tells Butz that she wants to be "just friends", and he starts crying and runs away. It's truly heartbreaking.

i said I am only at the beginning...

Dr. Casey
11-25-2005, 08:30 PM
Sorry for spoiling the game, then.

boys from the dwarf
11-25-2005, 09:22 PM
although in earlier FFs personality is lacking bartz has a goos personality. hes funny and pretty energetic but thats about it. he says things at the funniest times though.dont ask me why but when x-death awakes and bartz says "oh crap." its hilarious and also near the start of the 3rd world where bartz and krile start fighting then bartz says "kids. who needs em." and bartzes fear of heights. bartz has the best personality in FF5.

Captain Maxx Power
11-25-2005, 11:32 PM
Butz has the personality of a *turnip.

*We sincerely appologise to any turnips present who may be offended to being compared to a character with a personality like that of a **potato.

**We also appologise to any potatos present who may be offended to being compared to a character with a personality like that of a ***stick of celery, or to a turnip.

***Celery we don't like, so they can cry all they want.

Dr. Casey
11-25-2005, 11:49 PM
Hey now, I like celery. It's about as addictive as any other fruit/vegetable. :tongue:

Duncan
11-26-2005, 02:19 PM
The only emotion I remember Bartz having is when he looks under the sheets after Faris gets hurt and realizes that Faris is a hot chick. He falls in love (or more likely lust). My guess is that he was already inexplicibly attracted to Faris and was have some issues trying to sort out his own sexual preferences until he realized that he was a she.

Chris
11-26-2005, 02:43 PM
He loves his chocobo and he OBVIOUSLY takes care of it. I'd say he's very lifelike.

:mad:

Captain Maxx Power
11-26-2005, 05:24 PM
He loves his chocobo and he OBVIOUSLY takes care of it. I'd say he's very lifelike.

:mad:

Now now, there's no need to get bitter just because Baky ran away Chris. If you love them, let them go...

Neco Arc
11-28-2005, 01:13 PM
I like it when Butz walks into Faris room and notices something, runs out looking all weird and the others ask him what the hell is going on...

Destai
11-28-2005, 06:03 PM
Butz is a very deep character. hahaha, no hes not.

Dr. Casey
11-28-2005, 10:18 PM
I'd like for you to name a single instance in the game where Butz doesn't have something deep to contribute.

Destai
11-28-2005, 10:23 PM
Lets pick a line from when he saw Faris's not so manly man boobs at the start of the game.

DocFrance
11-30-2005, 05:02 AM
I'd like for you to name a single instance in the game where Butz doesn't have something deep to contribute.
Butz: "/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif!"

Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-30-2005, 09:03 AM
The only emotion I remember Bartz having is when he looks under the sheets after Faris gets hurt and realizes that Faris is a hot chick. He falls in love (or more likely lust). My guess is that he was already inexplicibly attracted to Faris and was have some issues trying to sort out his own sexual preferences until he realized that he was a she.

No! He realized that Faris was a girl.

Cecinda
12-06-2005, 09:18 AM
I don't know how anybody could think that Faris was a guy in the first place...never mind the fact that everyone else can see she's a girl except Butz Lenna and Galuf.
He cared for his chocobo? Last time I checked he left it behind before they went into the cave leading to the pirates base. Poor thing is probably starving, cold and ragged by now.

Neco Arc
12-06-2005, 12:26 PM
no he (boko) managed to find a mate and "settle" down... if you know what i mean

MJN SEIFER
12-06-2005, 06:38 PM
Butz is a very deep character.


I've always thought so.

Aurora_sword
12-07-2005, 10:34 PM
I cant resist to lol at this topic.
Butz is like, a turnip, yes, definitely a turnip!

Mr. Graves
12-08-2005, 04:35 AM
His journey be meaningful
his followers be fine
my fingers be sore
to LV 65, they go(?)

Peter_20
12-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Galuf: Hey. I'm old. And I know stuff. Hey wait, who the hell am I?:D

eestlinc
12-10-2005, 02:43 AM
He cared for his chocobo? Last time I checked he left it behind before they went into the cave leading to the pirates base. Poor thing is probably starving, cold and ragged by now.
Right after you get the pirate ship, take it back to the cave that leads to the pirate hq and see what happens.

UWAOOOOU
12-10-2005, 10:09 PM
I certainly wouldnt call him deep. Not that hes the opposite of deep....actuallyhe is. nvm.

crashNUMBERS
12-11-2005, 04:07 PM
I haven't seen him with much emotion yet but I gotta start playing this game again...

ThroneofDravaris
12-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Yes, yes you do.

crashNUMBERS
12-11-2005, 04:19 PM
Yeah, it's just that I haven't been playing my ROMs in a long time...

Slade
12-12-2005, 03:10 AM
Thers a part where he goes beserk and zooms around the world a couple of times in the airship when his home town is sucked into the void. Thats the most emotional he gets.

xtreme112
12-12-2005, 03:24 AM
Every FF character is deep and emotional, there are many ways to show and tell this but almost every character in all the ff games (with acception to a handful) have and show emotions, you people just aren't looking hard enough.

Zeromus_X
12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
Thers a part where he goes beserk and zooms around the world a couple of times in the airship when his home town is sucked into the void. Thats the most emotional he gets.
i was just about to say that.

also, i dont know why people complain about ffV characters having little or no emotion. they have SERIOUS problems, and sometimes on a quite literally global scale. heres a list of the characters and their problems, problems worse than anyone here on this forum (:D :p ):

bartz-both parents dead from illnesses. gets hometown sucked into black hole. and you thought your life was bad.
faris- got separated from parents as a child and have to pretend to be a man for the rest of your life to avoid ridicule. loses all sense of femninity.
galuf- lost memory. got it back, but the only one left to stop x-death(of the dawn warriors) and dies anyway.
krile- lost her grandpa. (okay, krile doesnt have that many problems, but still.)
lenna- lost both parents. (like bartz.) and lost her kingdom to a black hole. (okay, alot like bartz. theyd make a good couple, neh?) had the chance to save her mom, depending on if you chose to or not. (thats an optional side-quest/back story)

told you so.:choc2: :p

8-bit and 16-bit sprites have emotions too!

eestlinc
12-12-2005, 04:12 AM
how do you save Lenna's mom?

Zeromus_X
12-12-2005, 04:18 AM
how do you save Lenna's mom?

you decide to take the hiryuu's tongue.

mier85
12-19-2005, 11:21 PM
Well, I think that Butz is a monkey.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/mier85/ff5mal.JPG

Sometimes I wondered what kind of character he is,
but if you ever played Final Fantasy Mystic Quest,
then you know how much character Butz have!

The one with the most character is Squall in my opinion.

Dr. Casey
12-20-2005, 04:02 AM
Feh, Butz has way more character than Benjamin. XD

Zeromus_X
12-20-2005, 04:35 AM
Sometimes I wondered what kind of character he is,
but if you ever played Final Fantasy Mystic Quest,
then you know how much character Butz have!

The one with the most character is Squall in my opinion.
i hope youre joking...:p

Slade
12-20-2005, 09:44 AM
i hope youre joking...:p
Why would he be? It's true after all (in my opinion anyway)

Squall-101
01-07-2006, 07:57 PM
Besides....the only emotion i have seen on butz is when he looks at her when shes asleep, and when they try to take off her clothes in the pirate caves...i think in the caves :confused:


Thers a part where he goes beserk and zooms around the world a couple of times in the airship when his home town is sucked into the void. Thats the most emotional he gets.
thats right, and faris and lenna have to drag him away from the controler......it's sad cause his hometown goes byebye in front of him.
:(

Shin Gouken
01-07-2006, 08:29 PM
thats right, and faris and lenna have to drag him away from the controler......it's sad cause his hometown goes byebye in front of him.
:(


c'mon what about when he totally gets pissed at x-death in the earth shrine and gets put on his arse. i loved that scene

Squall-101
01-08-2006, 12:47 AM
c'mon what about when he totally gets pissed at x-death in the earth shrine and gets put on his arse. i loved that scene
Really???
Anyway, also he is emotional....i mean.....
there was when he had to wake faris up and she looks hot in bed, and when thy try taking her clothes off....and when she is in her other costume...and thats when he and cara leaves...
Remeber??????
Can't remeber the earth shrine bit...oh well, it will come back to my head

super dog
01-27-2006, 10:00 AM
Well, I wouldn't say Bartz has no emotion but he is not as well developed as the characters in ff6 in my opinion. I haven't played very far but well, we can see the perverted side of Bartz in the ship graveyard when both Bartz and Galuf tried to undress Faris even though they knew she was a girl from that scene in the inn. I wish he had dashed into that room in the cave to steal a peek of Rena though.

Shin Gouken
01-27-2006, 10:29 AM
FFV just required you to look a little harder to see depth in the characters. In FFVIII all the characters were VERY different Zell=energetic and enthusiastic Selphy=hyper Seifer=cocky cool Quistis=mature Squall=emotionally stunted Irvine=ladies man.
But in FFV the characters weren't so different. They would all appear at first to have no personality or depth. It didn't help that the scripting was so poor, but as proven in this thread, Bartz had plenty of times to shine as a character