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Bubbles1230
11-28-2005, 11:05 PM
Okay, theres a few things in FF7 that I still dont understand. First, you know when in the beginning, Cloud is escorting Aeris home, and they visit the drunk dude in the pipe? Why was he relevent to the game? Also, someone told me that if you defeat Jenova the first time on the ship with Clouds limit break at 3 and at least level 75, then something huge will happen at the end of the game, and they hinted about Aeris. Can anyone verify this for me, and can you tell me what happens? Finally, I've never played the demo version of FF7, but my friend found it at a store and wants to buy it. Can anyone tell me what part in the game it shows on the demo? Thanks!

Azure
11-28-2005, 11:45 PM
Okay, theres a few things in FF7 that I still dont understand. First, you know when in the beginning, Cloud is escorting Aeris home, and they visit the drunk dude in the pipe? Why was he relevent to the game?

Because he has a tattoo on his arm, if I remember rightly. Red XIII has a tattoo on his arm to show that was his number experiment. I can't remember all of it now, but a guy in Coral also asks about whether tattoos are popular in the city.


Also, someone told me that if you defeat Jenova the first time on the ship with Clouds limit break at 3 and at least level 75, then something huge will happen at the end of the game, and they hinted about Aeris. Can anyone verify this for me, and can you tell me what happens?

I think this is just another rumour. Dosen't sound legit to me.

FiragaBreak
11-29-2005, 01:25 AM
Okay, theres a few things in FF7 that I still dont understand. First, you know when in the beginning, Cloud is escorting Aeris home, and they visit the drunk dude in the pipe? Why was he relevent to the game? Also, someone told me that if you defeat Jenova the first time on the ship with Clouds limit break at 3 and at least level 75, then something huge will happen at the end of the game, and they hinted about Aeris. Can anyone verify this for me, and can you tell me what happens? Finally, I've never played the demo version of FF7, but my friend found it at a store and wants to buy it. Can anyone tell me what part in the game it shows on the demo? Thanks!

Well actually the guy in the pipe with the tattoo is also at the reunion. look closely and you'll find a guy with that same tattoo.

d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x
11-29-2005, 11:09 AM
the demo:

you play the first mako reactor mission with cloud, barret and aeris

Light Mage
11-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Also, someone told me that if you defeat Jenova the first time on the ship with Clouds limit break at 3 and at least level 75, then something huge will happen at the end of the game, and they hinted about Aeris. Can anyone verify this for me, and can you tell me what happens?
It's obviously fake, you can tell because it's such a stupidly convoluted thing to have to do and is totally impractical for normal gameplay.

xtreme112
11-29-2005, 11:03 PM
Chances are that rumour will be fake, besides, who has the perservierance to train cloud all the way to level 75 and get 3 of his limit breaks!?
Plus if there was an extra ending someone would have exposed it by now.

TheSpoonyBard
11-30-2005, 02:19 AM
First, you know when in the beginning, Cloud is escorting Aeris home, and they visit the drunk dude in the pipe? Why was he relevent to the game?
This man is supposedly meant to have a much larger part in the game pertaining to the revivial of Aerith. However, due to time contraints during the game's development they were unable to complete this particular section. They also failed to include Aero materia amongst other things.


Also, someone told me that if you defeat Jenova the first time on the ship with Clouds limit break at 3 and at least level 75, then something huge will happen at the end of the game, and they hinted about Aeris. Can anyone verify this for me, and can you tell me what happens?
False.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
i've got a question too for u pros to answer my friend told me that if you don't treat her good use her or do anithing good to her (like talk or buy her stuff) in other words if you treat her bad she will jump in aeris way and aeris will live. but that she dies at the north crater. do you think this is a rumour? i've also been cheking and seems many wires are missing in aeris ressurectin.

Christmas
11-30-2005, 05:51 PM
i've got a question too for u pros to answer my friend told me that if you don't treat her good use her or do anithing good to her (like talk or buy her stuff) in other words if you treat her bad she will jump in aeris way and aeris will live. but that she dies at the north crater. do you think this is a rumour? i've also been cheking and seems many wires are missing in aeris ressurectin.

NO KIDS. FOR THE LAST TIME MAMA PUPU GONNA TELL YOU ALL, THERE AREN'T ANY WAYS TO REVIVE OUR DEAR AERIS UNLESS YOU GO GET YOURSELF A LEGENDARY GAMESHARK.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 05:57 PM
BLOODY HELL CALM DOWN WHY U SO STRESSED FOR I WAS JUST SAYNG WHAT MY FRIEND TOLD ME!!!!!!

ANS I AM NOT CHEATING ON MY FAVORITE GAME!

Don't double post, use the edit/delete button instead.

~Void

Christmas
11-30-2005, 06:02 PM
BLOODY HELL CALM DOWN WHY U SO STRESSED FOR I WAS JUST SAYNG WHAT MY FRIEND TOLD ME!!!!!!


ANS I AM NOT CHEATING ON MY FAVORITE GAME!



You can use the edit/delete button

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 06:11 PM
i am not deliting those post even if old manus came here because i would delite him instead as i told you

Light Mage
11-30-2005, 06:20 PM
Final Fantasy VII has been around for about 8 years.

In all that time, if there was any secret ways to revive Aeris, get Omega WEAPON as a playable character and breed a White Chocobo, don't you think they would have been discovered and posted ALL OVER THE INTERNET EVERYWHERE by now...?

Plus, I'm fairly certain there have been a few different interviews with Square Enix staff who have ALL categorically stated that Aeris *is* Lady Dodo.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 06:28 PM
ok ok you can stop beating me up now but i still think thee has to be a way of getting aeris back that square didn't tell us and dont start with the gameshark thing ! because for example there's a ghost in the church why is it there? who knows but it is there for a reason evrithing has to have a reason. i bet there's moore just a bit moore of a search and i should find it

Azure
11-30-2005, 06:39 PM
This man is supposedly meant to have a much larger part in the game pertaining to the revivial of Aerith. However, due to time contraints during the game's development they were unable to complete this particular section. They also failed to include Aero materia amongst other things.


She was never meant to be revived.

Christmas
11-30-2005, 06:41 PM
ok ok you can stop beating me up

No one is beating you.....here's a smile for you. :kaohappy:


now but i still think thee has to be a way of getting aeris back that square didn't tell us and dont start with the gameshark thing !

Here (http://www.ff7citadel.com/gameinfo/info_res.shtml) and here. (http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/sa_japanese.shtml)


because for example there's a ghost in the church why is it there? who knows but it is there for a reason evrithing has to have a reason. i bet there's moore just a bit moore of a search and i should find it

For the ghost thing, here. (http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/sa_church.shtml)

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 06:42 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE GHOST IN THE CHURCH WHAT IS THAT ABOUT THEN WHAT IF SQUARE LEFT ONE LAST PUZZLE FOR US TO SOLVE AND FORGOT ABOUT IT DID YOU EVEER THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!

UKNOWS IF UVE BEEEN ON THAT GENIUS SITE THAT I GOT MY INFO FROM WHY DIDN'T YOU CHECK WHAT WE SOULDEN'T HAVE SEEN 1 2 3 AND 4 THAT SAYS SOMETHING DIFFRENT DOSEN'T IT? IT ACCTIOLY SAYS ABOUT SOME1 THAT IS FROM EOFF WAS IT YOU?

DAMN I TRIPLE POSTED AGAIN!!!!!!

Stop making multiple posts, use the edit/delete button instead.

~Void

Christmas
11-30-2005, 06:47 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE GHOST IN THE CHURCH WHAT IS THAT ABOUT THEN WHAT IF SQUARE LEFT ONE LAST PUZZLE FOR US TO SOLVE AND FORGOT ABOUT IT DID YOU EVEER THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!

One can said in the ending of the Advent Children that Aeris leaving the Church meaning


Aeris:You're all right now, aren't you?

Cloud is ok finally and Aeris can vanish into thin air which also give an answer to your question.

Shin Gouken
11-30-2005, 06:47 PM
why is nobody going around saying "uuuggghhhh galuf can be revived if you beat cheese weapon and chocobo weapon" why? because its ridiculas and was never intended. aeris is dead get over it!



(R.I.P Aeries)

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 06:52 PM
One can said in the ending of the Advent Children that Aeris leaving the Church meaning



Cloud is all right finally and Aeris can vanish into thin air.

1.confused
2.really confused
3.veryyyyyyyy cofused

Azure
11-30-2005, 06:55 PM
Basically.... if you've seen Advent Children..

Aeris finally leaves when she sees that Cloud is alright. She leaves with Zack to the afterlife. Thats it. She's DEAD. She's not coming back.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 06:58 PM
1. zack's in the movie?
2.so she is alive on 7!
3.ain't i right?

Christmas
11-30-2005, 06:59 PM
UKNOWS IF UVE BEEEN ON THAT GENIUS SITE THAT I GOT MY INFO FROM WHY DIDN'T YOU CHECK WHAT WE SOULDEN'T HAVE SEEN 1 2 3 AND 4 THAT SAYS SOMETHING DIFFRENT DOSEN'T IT? IT ACCTIOLY SAYS ABOUT SOME1 THAT IS FROM EOFF WAS IT YOU?

Judging from those scenes that they found without any other stuffs to support it, it is still hard to judge that she is originally planned to die at the northern crater.

And bear in mind kiddies, she did died in the forgotten capital and that is a fact. If you want, you can go investigate those stuffs they have there for so long without any updates.


l
1. zack's in the movie?
2.so she is alive on 7!
3.ain't i right?

OMG. Sephiroth is in the movie. Does that mean Jessie is alive?

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
ahahahhahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhhhahahaHAHAHHHHAHHAAHHAAH THAT'S HILLARIUS!!!!!! -_-

And bear in mind kiddies, she did died in the forgotten capital and that is a fact. If you want, you can go investigate those stuffs they have there for so long without any updates.

translation:theyr info is a load of crap is that what ur sayng?

Stop double-posting.

~Void

Christmas
11-30-2005, 07:09 PM
And bear in mind kiddies, she did died in the forgotten capital and that is a fact. If you want, you can go investigate those stuffs they have there for so long without any updates.

translation:theyr info is a load of crap is that what ur sayng?

NO.

Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE
11-30-2005, 07:16 PM
The ghost thing is probably a glitch, since it said that it appears when she is kidnapped/dead must mean that whenever she is not in your PHS party she appears.

Under the assumption that there is no reason to return to the church after Aeris joins you probably means that the devoloper's didn't check the church after she dies and didn't fix it because they never visited the church afterwards.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 07:17 PM
well you said it with your own letters and why did you change palmer for jessie? even knowing i liked jessie better. shame she died


The ghost thing is probably a glitch

i disagree


Under the assumption that there is no reason to return to the church after Aeris joins you probably means that the devoloper's didn't check the church after she dies and didn't fix it because they never visited the church afterwards.

they have to check evrything before they send the game out

Light Mage
11-30-2005, 07:34 PM
they have to check evrything before they send the game out
You're never played a PC game before, have you? :p

One word: Patches.

PC game developers are notorious for flaws in programming that they have to release patches to fix bugs and glitches in their games.

It's reasonable to expect the FFVII programmers to have made an error in their quality control, like most other developers seem to do.

sephiroth the dark angel
11-30-2005, 07:40 PM
im not aloud to play games on my dad's pc(how gay i wanna play xi)

by the way light mage you eggs are born tommorow

Lost Number
11-30-2005, 08:07 PM
*Ahem.* Tifa was actually a last minute addition and Aeris did not did until late in the plot development stage.

Carl the Llama
11-30-2005, 08:21 PM
Read this and be silent :D


It has long been claimed by many that Final Fantasy VII was incomplete, an intended resurrection of Aerith being left out due to time constraints. While true that the original Japanese release suffered from time constraints, and despite pushing back the release date a full month to work on the game longer, they still failed to add in a pivotal scene of backstory (Cloud's flashback in the Shinra Mansion basement on Disc 3 in which remembers his and Zack's escape from Nibelheim), a boss fight against Diamond WEAPON, the two optional mega bosses (Ruby and Emerald WEAPONs), and a few other small things that were added into the North American release.

Once the game was released in Japan, they added these things in, having over half a year to program them in. Despite this, many fans having continued to argue that -- for whatever reason -- something as pivotal to the plot as Aerith being revived was not added in during the six months of extra time the developers were given to work on the matter, despite them adding in things like the WEAPON boss battles and a few other things that were insignificant in comparison to such a massive plot element as this.

There has been rumour after rumour after rumour that Aerith was either intended to be revived or could be. To this day, many who even are aware that Aerith can't be revived believe that the developers once intended for her to be. I now have the proof that such a resurrection was never intended, even from the inception of the idea.

In the May 2003 issue of the United Kingdom video game magazine known as EDGE (quite possibly the most professional, best organized, and all around greatest video game magazine around), there is a six-page "Making of..." feature on Final Fantasy VII (there's a six-page "Making of..." feature in the back of every issue they release), in which Yoshinori Kitase (Co-Scenario Writer and Director of Final Fantasy VII) and Tetsuya Nomura (Character Designer of Final Fantasy VII) are interviewed.

During the course of the interview, Nomura speaks about what he intended in coming up with Aerith's death, and Kitase speaks on the fans' responses to her death. Here follows that part of the interview, along with picture proof that this issue of the magazine exists, and that the interview and dialogue I speak of is present within the issue.

Nomura, concerning Aerith's death:

Back at the time we were designing the game, I was frustrated with the perennial cliche where the protagonist loves someone very much and so has to sacrifice himself and die in a dramatic fashion to express that love. We found this was the case in both games and movies, both easter and western. But I wanted to say something different, something realistic. I mean, is it right to set such an example to people?

Kitase follows that up with this:

In the real world, things are very different. You just need to look around you. Nobody wants to die that way. People die of disease and accident. Death comes suddenly and there is no notion of good or bad attached to it. It leaves, not a dramatic feeling, but a feeling of emptiness. When you lose someone you loved very much you feel this big empty space and think 'If I had knowni this was coming I would have done things differently.' These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood."

Kitase, concerning the fans' responses to Aerith's death:

The world was expecting us to bring her back to life, as this is the classic convention. But we did not. We had decided this from the beginning. There was a lot of reaction from Japanese users. Some of them were very sad about it, while others were angry. We even received a lengthy petition addressed to our scenario writer asking for Aerith's revival. But there are many meanings in Aerith's death and that could never happen.

And here's the magazine shots. First, Kitase's words on Aerith being intended to remain dead:
Linkage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/AerithWasSupposedToStayDead.jpg).
Linkage 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/AerithWasSupposedToStayDead2.jpg).

Next, Nomura's words on Aerith's death:
Linkage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/NomurasIdeas.jpg).
Linkage 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/NomurasIdeas2.jpg).
Linkage 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/NomurasIdeas3.jpg).

The proof of the magazine's existance:
Linkage (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--May2003Issue123.jpg).
Linkage 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--May2003.jpg).
Linkage 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII.jpg).
Linkage 4 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII2.jpg).
Linkage 5 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII3.jpg).
Linkage 6 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII4.jpg).
Linkage 7 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII5.jpg).
Linkage 8 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII6.jpg).
Linkage 9 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Squall_of_Seed/Edge%20--%20May%202003%20Issue%20123/Edge--TheMakingofFFVII7.jpg).

And there you have it. Proof from the Director and Co-Scenario Writer of Final Fantasy VII -- as well as the Producer of Advent Children -- that no revival of Aerith was ever intended.


I realize that for some here this wasn't needed, but I've found that even among many well-informed gamers, the concept that the idea was once intended was believed. I'm just making this to ensure that the facts of the matter are brought to light.

Behold the Void
11-30-2005, 11:46 PM
sephiroth the dark angel, stop making multiple posts and acting in an abrasive and attacking fashion. This is a warning, if you continue to do it you will be banned.

TheSpoonyBard
11-30-2005, 11:56 PM
She was never meant to be revived.
Hence why I said 'supposedly'.

Shin Gouken
12-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Read this and be silent :D



dude i freakin love you

Azure
12-01-2005, 09:14 PM
Hence why I said 'supposedly'.

Aha, sorry, misunderstanding on my part :)

Dolentrean
12-01-2005, 09:30 PM
Is it just me... or is the topic of the revival of Arieth getting very very very old?

KoShiatar
12-01-2005, 09:48 PM
No, it isn't just you. Aeris is a groovy ghoulie. Everybody, get over it.

sephiroth the dark angel
12-10-2005, 09:21 AM
sephiroth the dark angel, stop making multiple posts and acting in an abrasive and attacking fashion. This is a warning, if you continue to do it you will be banned.

sorry void i forgot about the delite button txs for remembering me though

mooglebunni608
12-19-2005, 11:20 PM
to all who say thre is no way to get aries back, i beg to differ (no, i am not alking about the legendary gameshark thingy)
when you get the make save materia, hold onto it. return to the slums, to the church where you met aries. use the materia there. when you open up your menu, Bam, you have Black Aries. but she will have no purpose except as a figter.

TheSpoonyBard
12-19-2005, 11:22 PM
The Save Crystal is an item, not a materia. That mistake leads me to believe you're just making it up. And the fact that Aeris cannot be revived confirms my suspicions.

Nanaki_XIII
12-20-2005, 12:32 AM
Kaiserdragon with a hat salute even if people are having trouble getting it though they're heads Areith is dead she was never intended tp be brought back I cried after she died she's dead in the movie can we please get on with our lives she's dead and gone and without a gameshark she ain't coming back

FFX_fanatiq
12-20-2005, 12:34 AM
Revival=denial
REAL PEOPLE DIE
VIRTUAL PEOPLE DIE
It made clouds relationship with her beautifull (even in death sort of thing)
I love it now bai

sephiroth the dark angel
01-24-2006, 05:13 PM
should we just end the topic by saing that she's not coming back .dead and berried

(r.i.p aeris) pronto

Light Mage
01-24-2006, 09:03 PM
She's so berried she's the new Summer Fruits.

Leeza
01-25-2006, 02:26 AM
That topic was already ended till the thread was revived.