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Miriel
12-08-2005, 08:20 PM
I will pay cash to get a bigger PM storage space. Serious.

I've had paid subscriptions to at least 3 other forums, deviantART, Livejournal, and even a freakin' XANGA (which happens to be the most detestable form of web-blogging, just in case anyone was wondering). And I don't use any of these sites nearly as much as I use EoFF.

It would be great if you guys could have some sort of paid option for EoFF. The benefits for both the site and the members are obvious. I've heard that Cid has to be the one to ok all this, but I thought I'd make a thread about this before I hunt him down and nag until he gives in.

And also, the description for the FFXI forum is lame.

Primus Inter Pares
12-08-2005, 08:22 PM
Download all Private Messages as :
XML | CSV | Text

Can't you just do that?

Miriel
12-08-2005, 08:23 PM
I dislike deleting PMs at all. Downloading them just isn't the same.

Primus Inter Pares
12-08-2005, 08:26 PM
It's just one click away, but I know what you mean.

Miriel
12-08-2005, 08:27 PM
Sometimes, when I have to delete them, I die a little inside. :(

Psychotic
12-08-2005, 08:27 PM
omg liek paid users can have a SECRET FORUM and liek they can haff COLOURED CUSTOM TITLES!!!

I don't know why I typed that in idiot-speak, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Miriel
12-08-2005, 08:28 PM
All I want is the PM space.

Hell, I paid like $30 on Allakhazam just to use their search function.

Primus Inter Pares
12-08-2005, 08:30 PM
The alternative is to sleep with BoB or RSL.

Old Manus
12-08-2005, 08:32 PM
Sign up to EoFF Pro now and recieve free member porn

Yamaneko
12-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Yeah, Cid has to approve this. There's no real debate here, except maybe what the incentives would be in exchange for the subscription cost. I recommend a little star next to your username.

Endless
12-08-2005, 08:37 PM
I approve of this idea.

-N-
12-08-2005, 08:44 PM
I'm sure EoFF has no problem suckering fools out of their money.

Primus Inter Pares
12-08-2005, 09:03 PM
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=72676

Shlup
12-08-2005, 09:16 PM
You pay for stupid stuff. Give me your money so I can spend it on better things.

escobert
12-08-2005, 09:19 PM
Yeah I was thinking that xD

Miriel
12-08-2005, 09:51 PM
You pay for stupid stuff. Give me your money so I can spend it on better things.
Dude, I offered to photograph your wedding for free. Time is money! :p

Kawaii Ryűkishi
12-08-2005, 10:03 PM
web-blogging

Shlup
12-08-2005, 10:06 PM
Dude, I offered to photograph your wedding for free. Time is money! :p
This is true.

RSL
12-09-2005, 12:32 AM
We have discussed this before, but Cid never gave his input on the whole deal. As Cid is the one who would benefit from this, it is totally his call.

MecaKane
12-09-2005, 12:42 AM
Get an instant messenger program.

eestlinc
12-09-2005, 12:48 AM
We've been thinking about this and discussing for a while, so maybe it will happen. BoB will love this thread, at least.

Yamaneko
12-09-2005, 12:50 AM
Why would anybody in their right mind need so much PM space? It's not like more than 3% is thought-provoking, serious discussion.

Shlup
12-09-2005, 12:53 AM
Why would anybody in their right mind need so much PM space? It's not like more than 3% is thought-provoking, serious discussion.
That's neither here nor there.

Rye
12-09-2005, 01:00 AM
omg liek paid users can have a SECRET FORUM and liek they can haff COLOURED CUSTOM TITLES!!!

I don't know why I typed that in idiot-speak, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

But yeah, extra PM space would be awesome.

theundeadhero
12-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Heaven forbid you have to do something to earn the extra space. Let's solve this problem with money!

Miriel
12-09-2005, 01:15 AM
Heaven forbid you have to do something to earn the extra space. Let's solve this problem with money!
It's just a suggestion, not like they have to implement it if they don't want to. =/

kikimm
12-09-2005, 01:18 AM
I don't see any negatives. I know the limited PM space really annoyed me before; it's seriously nothing and gets filled up so quickly.

But yeah, like you already knew, and like everyone else has already said, Cid's decision. We'll bully him into agreeing!

theundeadhero
12-09-2005, 01:19 AM
Sorry for the sarcasm. It it came around I would pay for it.

-N-
12-09-2005, 01:38 AM
I have extra PM space and I still delete stuff.

Yamaneko
12-09-2005, 01:39 AM
How much do RMs get?

EDIT: Haha, I forgot I could check myself. :D

EDIT2: They get the same.

-N-
12-09-2005, 01:42 AM
Could you tell me what it is when you do? :D

Yamaneko
12-09-2005, 01:46 AM
1000, same as registered members.

RSL
12-09-2005, 01:52 AM
Oh wow that sucks.

-N-
12-09-2005, 02:13 AM
Well it's a good thing I delete them then, I suppose. :p

Anyways, back to agreeing with everyone about how people who are willing to pay for extra PM storage deserve to have their money stripped away from them.

RSL
12-09-2005, 02:19 AM
If this were to happen, the money would go to Cid to help pay for the EoFF server costs. It would be like a donation, only you get a small reward in return.

Raistlin
12-09-2005, 02:29 AM
Wait, RMs only get 1000 now? Back when I was RM, we had unlimited space. At least, once staff also got unlimited space.

rubah
12-09-2005, 03:19 AM
I'm thinking about taking out a bet on how fast rsl can fill up that 'unlimited' space.

MecaKane
12-09-2005, 04:02 AM
1000?
1000 is too little?
Holy crap!

Del Murder
12-09-2005, 06:18 AM
I think if there is a demand for it, then there should be no reason not to impliment it. Any visible indication that a person has a paid account would be bad, since it breeds elitisim, but otherwise it would be cool. Sean can use the money to fund the site when revenue gets low, or perhaps run a contest or something. The problem is getting his attention.

Psychotic
12-09-2005, 01:29 PM
I deleted every PM I had, and within a week I was back up to 1000 again. I want a "delete every PM in inbox and sent items!" button instead of all this ticking business. That'd be of more use than infinite PMs.

crono_logical
12-09-2005, 01:45 PM
In the mean time, how about I increase the PM limit to 2500 for members? :p

Raistlin
12-09-2005, 06:51 PM
No! We must make the regular members suffer the fate of a mere 1000 PM limit!

Psychotic
12-09-2005, 06:59 PM
Isn't having to suffer you and your delirious rantings punishment enough?

Raistlin
12-09-2005, 07:51 PM
Probably, but you can never be too careful.

MecaKane
12-09-2005, 08:08 PM
For $5 a month you can foreward me and have me store up to 900 PMs.
Now that's a good deal!

Samuraid
12-09-2005, 08:24 PM
In the mean time, how about I increase the PM limit to 2500 for members? :p

If you do, don't forget SS and SSS as we are bound to 1000 PM limits as well. :)

Primus Inter Pares
12-09-2005, 08:39 PM
That's gotta suck.

EDIT: Drunk tanks only get 350 ;_;

Raistlin
12-09-2005, 08:42 PM
EDIT: Drunk tanks only get 350 ;_;
Really? When did that happen? Last time I was drunk tanked, I had a 1000 PM limit, IIRC.

Primus Inter Pares
12-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Yeah, I noticed it when I was drunk tanked for quite awhile, annoying.

escobert
12-09-2005, 09:46 PM
My entire time at EoFF I've saved every PM I've ever sent or recived and I'm only at 300 and something xD. JUST DELETE THEM.

Endless
12-09-2005, 09:55 PM
Really? When did that happen? Last time I was drunk tanked, I had a 1000 PM limit, IIRC.

Last time I was DTed, I had 350 too, which was a pain, I had to delete old PMs in order to PM BoB.

crono_logical
12-09-2005, 10:32 PM
*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more* :p

Primus Inter Pares
12-09-2005, 10:35 PM
"a total 1024 allowed."

Nice even number there.

Raistlin
12-09-2005, 10:38 PM
WOAH, why am I allowed only 1000 now? Is it because, for some reason, I'm still in No Sig? I still have the FS title, though. =o

Cruise Control
12-09-2005, 10:40 PM
I delete mine the second I respond to them. I hate wasting space.

Old Manus
12-09-2005, 10:46 PM
283 is the only amount of PMs needed

Until I reach 284

MecaKane
12-09-2005, 10:50 PM
"a total 1024 allowed."

Nice even number there.

Two to the power of ten.

Samuraid
12-09-2005, 10:56 PM
*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more* :p

Thanks. :D

Cruise Control
12-09-2005, 11:34 PM
I haven't gotten a PM in a few months, so I don't know if this is new or not, but the empty folder thing kicks so much ass it's not funny.

Yamaneko
12-10-2005, 01:21 AM
WOAH, why am I allowed only 1000 now? Is it because, for some reason, I'm still in No Sig? I still have the FS title, though. =o
You're one of those people in a secondary group.

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 01:35 AM
Well then take me out of it already. :p

Yamaneko
12-10-2005, 04:12 AM
:up:

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 04:22 AM
yay <img src="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/user/avatar/avatar92_13.gif">

RSL
12-10-2005, 05:10 AM
booo

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 05:45 AM
You know you love the pimp, RSL. After Christmas, maybe someone will pimp out your pirate avatar.

Resha
12-10-2005, 05:59 AM
I deleted every PM I had, and within a week I was back up to 1000 again. I want a "delete every PM in inbox and sent items!" button instead of all this ticking business. That'd be of more use than infinite PMs.
You don't need to tick. There's an "Empty Folder" thing at the top that clears everything in the inbox and/or sent messages thing respectively. O_O

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 06:40 AM
Haha, Psycho's dumb.

Anyway, just a question: why 65535? That seems like such an arbitrary number to correspond to "infinite."

Del Murder
12-10-2005, 07:07 AM
2^16 = 65536. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Miriel
12-10-2005, 09:43 AM
We have discussed this before, but Cid never gave his input on the whole deal.
The problem is getting his attention.
We've been thinking about this and discussing for a while, so maybe it will happen.*IMs Cid*

Result:
Cid: Okay, I'll probably do it. Right now is just a bad time for me to set it up though.
Cid: Remind me in a couple days.
Miriel: ok, just wanted to bring your attention to it
Cid: Sure, thanks.

Man, were you guys just not trying? :P

crono_logical
12-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Yeah, 65535 is the vB limit :p

Samuraid
12-10-2005, 11:10 AM
2^16 = 65536. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

65536 = 64K = 2 Bytes = mysql smallint(5) unsigned datatype = what vB uses for PM count. :D

Absolutely correct. Very good observation. :)

Roogle
12-10-2005, 11:35 AM
Man, were you guys just not trying? :P

I think they just assumed that he would eventually look at the thread. Please remember to follow up with your query in a few days' time.

theundeadhero
12-10-2005, 01:38 PM
*changes DT to 1000, and SS/SSS to more since they're staff and should have more*I worked so hard and was so so close to maxing out my 1000 too :P

Now it will take another two years!

RSL
12-10-2005, 02:27 PM
Man, were you guys just not trying? :P

Yeah, I wasn't gonna IM cid. But good job!

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 05:28 PM
It's pretty sad when the members have to do the Staff's job! You admins are no-good and lazy. :p

Primus Inter Pares
12-10-2005, 05:38 PM
Well, now that they have Yams...

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 06:57 PM
They're slightly better than "no-good," but even lazier.

Miriel
12-10-2005, 08:04 PM
I said I would hunt him down and nag him, so I did.

I think it turned out to be more productive than all those times I spent nagging Yamaneko. Although I don't think it's cause Yamaneko is lazy, he's just spiteful and hates me.

Raistlin
12-10-2005, 08:10 PM
Oh, he's lazy. He's Mr. I'll-do-it-tomorrow. It says so on his birth certificate.

Miriel
12-10-2005, 08:15 PM
Him: But the main reason why I want to be admin is so that I can make sure you don't get a bigger PM box. :-)
Me: =(
Me: Why do you hate me?

Spiteful and mean. :(

eestlinc
12-10-2005, 10:10 PM
well, Staff get 65535 PMs, as has been pointed out, so it's not like this issue was ever urgent to us. But we did discuss it!

UWAOOOOU
12-10-2005, 11:20 PM
And also, the description for the FFXI forum is lame.I agree.It should have lots of net speak and stuff aboutaggro that I dont understand.

eestlinc
12-10-2005, 11:25 PM
we should change it to say "Bleys is pants" in big letters.

UWAOOOOU
12-10-2005, 11:29 PM
we should change it to say "Bleys is pants" in big letters.
B_Ły.$ 1z P@n+s?

Miriel
12-10-2005, 11:33 PM
It should be changed to {Are you alone?} cause that is the single best auto-translate in the game.

UWAOOOOU
12-10-2005, 11:36 PM
It should be changed to {Are you alone?} cause that is the single best auto-translate in the game.Even better than {Meat stick, Do you have it}

I cant believe I find that humourous.

Miriel
12-10-2005, 11:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/hannahgoesrawr/funkeymusic.jpg

My linkshell is giving me suggestions right now, but they're all of the {Hume}{Woman} {Backhand blow} {job} variety.

UWAOOOOU
12-10-2005, 11:40 PM
Miriel for the win xD

Yamaneko
12-12-2005, 06:28 PM
I would have never thought to PM Cid.

DMKA
12-12-2005, 09:17 PM
Yeah, if you just let people who desire more space pay for it, I see no problem. Though I won't be getting any of th money so I don't particularly care either way.

Necronopticous
12-13-2005, 11:36 AM
I must be the only person who doesn't need more than 1,000 PMs at any given time, funny that I should be one of the ones with a 65,536 limit.