Why is Kimahri so useless?

[Sain Cai]

I read about people hating Kimahri saying he is useless and whatnot. What makes him so useless? I mean if you limit him to his grid, then yah, but you can emulate him into any other caracter basically, and his Overdirves can be very devestating.

So what are your specific reasons?

[TheSpoonyBard]

He has no identity of his own to begin with, he is merely a copy of one of the other characters. I know that if you complete the SG all the characters are the same, but some players have no motivation to do so for Kimahri due to his ambiguity.

Stone Breath and Nova are the only useful Rages he has, but I like to abuse Self Destruct.

[Pouring Rain]

Nobody likes him. And Self Destruct is fun! xD

[Azure]

I like Kimahri. He had potential to be such a good character, but he was overshadowed by others. I mean.. whats not to like? He's a good gaurdian, he takes his job seriously, in his Tribe he's a underdog who fights his way back up to earn respect.

There's always the one character that seems to get disliked in that way, usually the non human ones, ie, Quina and Cait Sith.. whom I both happen to love as well.

[Cruise Control]

I like the noise he makes before he blows himself up, he sounds so emo! And give him more that 9999 HP, and BHPL, Self destruct is the Roxx0rz

[Sain Cai]

How does Self-Destruct work, does it deal damage = to Kimahris? I dont really play other characters besides Tidus, Wakka, Yuna, and Rikku.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Damage = Kimahri's Max HP * 3

Works very nicely with BHPL and BDL.

Azure, I think Quina and Cait Sith are great. In my opinion the best non-human character is either Red XIII or Freya.

[Monol]

Egh i liked kihmari alot actually....hes my favorite character...but any hoot self destruct was cool but for some reason i had a thing for jump and thrust kick....i love blue mages...what can i say? :cool: :D

[TheSpoonyBard]

Trust Kick is useless as it never ejects the enemy from battle, despite what the information may say, and its got an Attack Power of just 1 more than Jump. Seed Cannon is just as good as Thrust Kick.

By the way, it is possible to get a Critical Hit with Kimahri's Self-Destruct, which is very nice against a fiend with huge HP.

[Monol]

Im not saying they're useful....just looked cool :cool: (should have been more specific) and a critical on self destruct eh? Well if that isnt enough to get your blood pumping for some kamikaze mayhem then i dont know what is (besides messing around with some grenades.....in the game that is) awsome tip by the way

[Hambone]

I like Kimahri! He's blue!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Can't argue with logic like that.

[look_out_below]

I guess most people just see Kimari as useless because you generally have to spend more time leveling, then you do with any other character, to get him to the same level of proformance as the other characters.

[DJZen]

In my game he actually wound up being as strong as Auron early on, and his HP was almost as high.

[DocFrance]

Khimari not useless. Khimari just initially positioned poorly in sphere grid.

...

Khimari sad.

[ThroneofDravaris]

I don’t see why people see the fact that he’s basically “a clone of another character” as a bad thing. Having two Aurons makes the game so much easier…

[Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE]

Because he's never called in, you don't NEED him... like you need Lulu or Wakka... Yuna and Rikku aren't called in a lot either, but from time to time, You'll need Yuna's summoning technique for the bitchy enemies and Rikku can always get those treasure chests...

[Tai-Ti]

Kimahri can be whatever you want him to really, and its you who will make him useless. It's useful for him to learn the steal technique, as when you're fighting the ronso on Mt Gagazet, you can steal Lvl 3 key spheres from them.
Personaly, Kimahri was one of my best characters.

[DocFrance]

Actually, for me, Khimari isn't useless at all. I use him as a replacement Tidus because he's so close to his part of the grid.

And yes, I refuse to ever use Tidus in battle unless I'm forced to.

And near the end of the game, there's really only three useful characters - Yuna, Rikku, and Auron. And that's because they're the only three for whom you can acquire their celestial weapons without throwing your controller at the wall and watching all the pretty plastic pieces fly all over the room.

[Yuffie514]

in my party, Kimahri has the highest stats for HP/Str and perhaps more where that came from. but by this time, everyone in the party is a master attacker and mage. his Overdrives, i find useful for knocking off multiple enemies (Fire Breath, Self-Destruct, Nova, etc). there should be more 12 enemy skills that can be learned...

[d£v!l'$ ph0£n!x]

i think its cos no matter which way u take him, he'll never be as good as the person whose path u've sent him down

[Sain Cai]

And near the end of the game, there's really only three useful characters - Yuna, Rikku, and Auron. And that's because they're the only three for whom you can acquire their celestial weapons without throwing your controller at the wall and watching all the pretty plastic pieces fly all over the room.

Been there, done that.

Thank god I have a great paying job :D

[Christmas]

And near the end of the game, there's really only three useful characters - Yuna, Rikku, and Auron. And that's because they're the only three for whom you can acquire their celestial weapons without throwing your controller at the wall and watching all the pretty plastic pieces fly all over the room.

DAMN STRAIGHT.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Dunno about Auron's weapon. Monster capping made me want to cry.

[Nanaki_XIII]

1)he is my 4th best character
1 tidus
2 Yuna
3 Auron
then kimarhi
5 Rikku
6 Wakka
7 Lulu
2)I got tidus's cadalborg at full power...I almost through my control through the TV but I got it
3)captruing monsters is making me want to sell my capture weapons
4)I like non-human character's normally *hence name* expect Cait sith but that's cause he's a dirty traitor(2 times over)
okay I think that's it oh right I have never used Kimhari's self destruct espically not after I got nova

[DocFrance]

Dunno about Auron's weapon. Monster capping made me want to cry.
It's a hell of a lot easier than chocobo racing, butterfly catching, lightning dodging, or thirty hours of blitzball.

[boys from the dwarf]

i dont find him that good in battle but hes a blue frostbite man who hardly ever talks so i reckon hes cool even if he is sorta useless in battle.

[Cruise Control]

its you who will make him uselessOwned.

Kimahri is anoying fucker, but, I must admit he is probably my strongest charachter. He is 2 times faster then Tidus, and stronger than Auron. I sent him down Tidus path, then he made a jump to Aurons path, and it just so happens Tidus and Aurons paths meat at the middle of Tidus and the end of Auron's, yay strength +4!

EDIT: Kimahri is pretty much the 'Red Mage' of FFX.

[rubah]

Kimarhi is best if you train him as a theivin' items using white mage.

Use, steal, then head right in the middle range white magery. A*head* of yuna.

means you get dispel with evrae and even more holy against yunalesca, *and* he's already got steal for biran and yenke:]

[Markus. D]

He has no identity of his own to begin with, he is merely a copy of one of the other characters. I know that if you complete the SG all the characters are the same, but some players have no motivation to do so for Kimahri due to his ambiguity.

Stone Breath and Nova are the only useful Rages he has, but I like to abuse Self Destruct.

him and his self destruct helped me get that last peice of hp off the dragon like, boss you meet while trying to save Yunie wunie.

dont remember its name, but yeah, thats the only thing that got me out of that.

[Azure]

I'd LOVE to cuddle Kimhari ^_^

[Starboard Regulator FlareNUKE]

Owned.

Kimahri is anoying smurfer, but, I must admit he is probably my strongest charachter. He is 2 times faster then Tidus, and stronger than Auron. I sent him down Tidus path, then he made a jump to Aurons path, and it just so happens Tidus and Aurons paths meat at the middle of Tidus and the end of Auron's, yay strength +4!

EDIT: Kimahri is pretty much the 'Red Mage' of FFX.

No, he is the Blue Mage of the party... Not the Red... Red Mages were practically abandonded after FFV...

[Cruise Control]

Technically both, you can make him do/be so many things its not funny.

[boys from the dwarf]

heres a tip if you want tons of power. train yuna as a black mage and with me she did about 500 more damage than lulu with every spell.

[Sain Cai]

Just out of curiosity, but what is a Red Mage? I haven't played the older FF's (7 was the first for me)

[TheSpoonyBard]

A Red Mage is a person that can use low and mid level White and Black magic.

[Hambone]

Does anyone else besides me think that Kimahri looks like a kitty?

[Sain Cai]

Meow :cat:

[Rengori]

Probably because you're so FAT! Ahahahahaha!

Nah, it's because you either don't train him or get Enemy Skills.

[Markus. D]

A Red Mage is a person that can use low and mid level White and Black magic.

and now that there there on FFXI, they can also enchant and enfeeble, brilliant mages :D

[The Cactuar]

I personally think Kimahri is an O.K. character, not too shabby. He's my "red mage" of my party, since I Lulu-cloned him. On my old FFX Save file he was a blue mage, I Rikku-cloned him :P. So yeah, it's always good to have an extra mage

[Cloud Valentine]

The problem with Kimahri is he's generally reffered to as the 'can be anyone but not quite as good' character. Saying he's more versatile is a bit of a stretch, because while early on he has an open route to any character, when you start getting special spheres almost any charcter can do that. His overdrives weren't amazing either (nova always did sucky damage for me for some odd reason), and his celestial weapon was an pain to get (I'd say his was the most annoying, followed by Tidus then Lulu).

I wouldn't call Kimahri useless, but he's easily overshadowed by the more specialised characters, and he takes more work to make him effective, which is a turn off for some people.

[rubah]

Well, when you train him as a white mage thief, he's better by way of having spells yuna does not :]

[SeeDRankLou]

Kimahri is useful for one very important purpose: fighting Biran and Yenke, both of whom hold Lv. 3 Key Spheres for the stealing. Train him as a Thief, and he will be able to perform Luck on himself about ten times and then steal from Biran 5 times and Yenke 5 times. Combine this with your ability to have a Master Thief armor at this point, and you can steal 20 Lv. 3 Key Spheres, which is enough to open every single Lv. 3 Lock on the sphere grid (if not enough then close to enough). And for this reason, he is more than worth the training, as you will have to either fight an endless supply of Defender Zs or wait until you can have access to the Omega Ruins to bribe a Demonolith. I personally don't like doing either of those.

[Venom]

Kimahri is simply useless cause he isnt an all-around chracter, he is just worthless.

[Nanaki_XIII]

ISN'T an all-around character? He's the eaiest character to round with and as already mentioned if you steal from brian and yenke you can get a nice amount of Lv.3 key spheres and traning him as a white mage faster than yuna will allow you to keep cure cura curaga reflect, protect, shell, possibly auto-life and holy you're null spells and of course pray, almost all his wepaons bear piercing making him good agaisnt armored fiends before Auron learns Armor break and his lancet makes him an early long ranger with waka and lulu(this group made sin's fin very easy)

[rubah]

You wouldn't have Cure or teh null spells with kimarhi as a white mage, because you'd enter in the middle of the white mage grid, around Protect, Reflect, and the like.

Most importantly though, Dispel.

If you have dispel, then evrae is *so* easy it's ridiculous.

[Cruise Control]

Well, when you train him as a white mage thief, he's better by way of having spells yuna does not :]But if I'm not mistaken, the spells are much weaker.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Protect, Shell, Reflect and Dispel don't need power to be effective.

[rubah]

Kimarhi makes up for his sucky magic in MP. at least he's got plenty at the beginning :|

[Hambone]

he's a kitty.

[boys from the dwarf]

Just out of curiosity, but what is a Red Mage? I haven't played the older FF's (7 was the first for me)
a red mage is usually someone who can cast up to mid level white and black magic(sometimes high level.) and they also hold swords which makes them good but not great at nearly everything.

[Hambone]

Kimahri is awesome. But only if you let him go into the right person's grid like Wakka, then Auron, then Tidus.

[Ilyn]

Kimah is very useful. I am utterly confused by people who say it's a waste to train him at all. Just copy your favorite character, and voila! I'd go with the whm/thief, black mage, or wakka/auron setup, personally... all three have their advantages. At one point, Kimahri was dealing better damage than Lulu with his elemental spells - I got a +20% mag Halberd early on + MP boosting armor; it really, really helps.

[4evarisha]

He is useless because his sphere grid is weird and the others is not.

[IpwnUthisMuch|------|]

impecable logic 4evarisha...

i find him useless because his overdrives are very weak compared to other overdrives...

as well as this because of the sphere grid system all characters can do everything and his ability to do that slightly sooner isnt enough to overrule the fact that he is a ginormous talking blue cat with a broken horn and broken english...

[mega_tonberry]

I really want my Kimarhi to be a good character but I just don't find him usefull at all.

[4evarisha]

That's true because my Tidus and Lulu and Yuna has the strongest overdrive.:)

[Ashley Schovitz]

He's not useless if you let him take on 3 grids at once, to do that whenever you get a return sphere use it for kimahri and by the time that he fights Yenkse and Biran he'll know steal, use, Fira,Blaizzara,Thundara,Watera, Bio, Demi, Dark Attack, Silence Attack, Cheer, Flee, and Haste. You see the ultimate warrior.

[a nirvana fan]

Well I've always liked Kimahri personally..he's great.